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BVB Bob
11-07-2017, 09:16 AM
Just been announced.

Dorking .Eagle
11-07-2017, 09:24 AM
Hmmm, lots of ways to do this.

Jimmy Eagle
11-07-2017, 09:27 AM
Anyone planning on doing a straight there and back minibus or similar by car who might have spaces? Trying to formulate a plan - either that or maybe fly nearish and hire a car!

Is there any sort of border between Luxembourg and France or do you just drive across on a continuous motorway no issues?

Hmmm, lots of ways to do this.

Does Metz not have an airport?

Kirby
11-07-2017, 09:30 AM
Their stadium looks like Selhurst would if we ever got around to adding a few tiers. It's even got the players' car park behind the main stand.

http://footballtripper.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/stade-saint-symphorien.jpg

Dorking .Eagle
11-07-2017, 09:34 AM
Does Metz not have an airport?

It does, I just saw that Easyjet go to Luxembourg which is about an hours drive away, and why do things the easiest way!! :D

King William
11-07-2017, 09:46 AM
100% in.

Was driving to Ypres the following day for 2 days...will change eurotunnel

selhursthoover
11-07-2017, 09:59 AM
It does, I just saw that Easyjet go to Luxembourg which is about an hours drive away, and why do things the easiest way!! :D

All booked.

Fri 28 Gatwick to Luxembourg 13:55
Return: Sun 30 17:40

:lux::lux::lux:

Dorking .Eagle
11-07-2017, 10:05 AM
Good work fella :p

Palace121
11-07-2017, 10:05 AM
All booked. Fri 28 Gatwick to Luxembourg 13:55 Return: Sun 30 17:40 :lux::lux::lux:

How much was your flight?

dannyboy1807
11-07-2017, 10:10 AM
Nice I'm in Ypres that weekend anyway, so 4 hour drive isn't too bad.

King William
11-07-2017, 10:18 AM
Hotel le mondon booked

King William
11-07-2017, 10:18 AM
Nice I'm in Ypres that weekend anyway, so 4 hour drive isn't too bad.

Snap

aj4england
11-07-2017, 10:21 AM
All booked.

Fri 28 Gatwick to Luxembourg 13:55
Return: Sun 30 17:40

:lux::lux::lux:

£130 returns. 50 min train for Luxembourg to MEtz at about £20 return train ticket.

kabbott
11-07-2017, 10:25 AM
Gutted. One of my mates is getting married that day!

Madden
11-07-2017, 10:28 AM
The quality of pre-season opposition has certainly been improving!

SKATE
11-07-2017, 10:31 AM
Flights to luxembourg and hotel booked! Looks like an hour train ride from lux to metz and about 10euro

SKATE
11-07-2017, 10:32 AM
All booked.

Fri 28 Gatwick to Luxembourg 13:55
Return: Sun 30 17:40

:lux::lux::lux:

Great minds - See you on those planes!!

selhursthoover
11-07-2017, 10:51 AM
How much was your flight?

£121.94

selhursthoover
11-07-2017, 10:52 AM
Great minds - See you on those planes!!

:lux::lux::lux:

and at the airport for a few hours session first.

:D:lux:

selhursthoover
11-07-2017, 11:00 AM
Great minds - See you on those planes!!

sent pm

sherstonpalace
11-07-2017, 11:06 AM
For those with BA air miles to burn (9000 + £35 tax)

LHR 7.25 arrives Lux 9.45

Train Lux to Metz (leave 11.24; arrive 12.04)

Train Metz to Lux (leave 18.33; arrive 19.22)

BA back leaves Lux 21.20, arrives LHR 21.45

tasty_snacks
11-07-2017, 11:08 AM
Just looking into their performance last year - 14th overall (having been promoted year before) with an average gate of >16k. Stadium similar size to SP.

Neil the Eagle
11-07-2017, 11:10 AM
The cruel irony of BVB Bob starting this thread... :(

selhursthoover
11-07-2017, 11:23 AM
The cruel irony of BVB Bob starting this thread... :(

I know. Its not gona be the same without you lot.

:sob:

mether
11-07-2017, 11:31 AM
Did a group of there fans turn up at selhurst park a few years back? Think it was against Sheffield united or Bristol city.

Dorking .Eagle
11-07-2017, 11:33 AM
2 pages and nobody has mentioned tying the Calais goalkeeper to the goalposts yet :supergrin:

Sp1Eagle
11-07-2017, 11:39 AM
:lux:

Palace Dan
11-07-2017, 11:44 AM
Come back from France day before...

DOH!!!

selhursthoover
11-07-2017, 11:51 AM
2 pages and nobody has mentioned tying the Calais goalkeeper to the goalposts yet :supergrin:

:afro::afro:

kabbott
11-07-2017, 11:57 AM
:lux::lux::lux:

and at the airport for a few hours session first.

:D:lux:

Things are going to get a bit metzy over there.

Eagle01
11-07-2017, 12:40 PM
What's the best website for booking trains?

Back from exile
11-07-2017, 12:47 PM
For those with BA air miles to burn (9000 + £35 tax)

LHR 7.25 arrives Lux 9.45

Train Lux to Metz (leave 11.24; arrive 12.04)

Train Metz to Lux (leave 18.33; arrive 19.22)

BA back leaves Lux 21.20, arrives LHR 21.45

Cheers - that is what I'll be doing

sherstonpalace
11-07-2017, 12:49 PM
What's the best website for booking trains?

www.sncf.com/en/services/tickets-bookings

Sp1Eagle
11-07-2017, 12:50 PM
€11.50 return from Lux to Metz :)

Dorking .Eagle
11-07-2017, 01:01 PM
Dorking Eagles x3 on dis 'ting.

BVB Bob
11-07-2017, 01:13 PM
The cruel irony of BVB Bob starting this thread... :(

I'm sorry! :(

Had we known a little further in advance...... :wallbash:

shelly
11-07-2017, 02:01 PM
Having just done this Luxembourg airport to central station is about 25 mins by bus (number 16 from outside station free at weekends and at that time every 20 mins I think). Taxi will take about 15 mins and cost about 30 euro

selhursthoover
11-07-2017, 02:01 PM
Things are going to get a bit metzy over there.

:lux::lux:

SA Eagle
11-07-2017, 02:06 PM
The cruel irony of BVB Bob starting this thread... :(

:D

blue67
11-07-2017, 02:08 PM
Flight to Luxembourg £105 rtn
Hotel £85 for 2 nights
Train from airport to Metz £18

SilentAssassin
11-07-2017, 02:27 PM
Heard we were in talks with Porto to play over there before Allardyce left but this is a very nice substitute. Not too far to travel and a few options for travel. Just wish the club would tell fans to keep such and such dates free if they are unable to confirm fixtures as to at least let fans know they are planning for an away friendly abroad, would make booking time off work a lot easier.

ruffus
11-07-2017, 02:37 PM
Anyone doing a coach?

Dorking .Eagle
11-07-2017, 02:48 PM
Anyone doing a coach?

It might involve listening to a loud drum for 12 hours each way ;)

in-exile
11-07-2017, 03:31 PM
So what's the best way to get there?

SKATE
11-07-2017, 03:46 PM
So what's the best way to get there?

Via the thread in the travel and fixtures forum!

cpfcfan1
11-07-2017, 03:50 PM
Berrys coaches.

in-exile
11-07-2017, 03:59 PM
It might involve listening to a loud drum for 12 hours each way ;):D

ForzaPalace
11-07-2017, 04:44 PM
Fly. /thread

JDawg
11-07-2017, 05:04 PM
Tunnel, A26 for a bit. Turn left.

dave_who_ru
11-07-2017, 05:25 PM
England > France > Belgium > Luxembourg > France > Metz maybe quicker than England > France > Metz. Views welcome.

asante_eagle
11-07-2017, 06:20 PM
I really want to go to this. How would I get to the town from Thornton heath? Want to take my niece along too

whyteleafeeagle
11-07-2017, 06:44 PM
What bus goes to Metz from Wallington? I'm hoping to go straight from work?

King William
11-07-2017, 06:44 PM
England > France > Belgium > Luxembourg > France > Metz maybe quicker than England > France > Metz. Views welcome.

Don't think there will be much in it.

According to google maps from Calais only 10km difference

I'll be heading straight down through France,Reims route

pauldrulez
11-07-2017, 06:48 PM
Blinding.

Shame that it was announced 2 weeks before the game really, made plans that I can't get out of.

Maybe we'll announce a European friendly more than a month in advance next year. We live in hope.

Martinsleftpeg
11-07-2017, 07:12 PM
Blinding.

Shame that it was announced 2 weeks before the game really, made plans that I can't get out of.

Maybe we'll announce a European friendly more than a month in advance next year. We live in hope.


This. Shame as l guess a fair few have made other plans as I have.

libran
11-07-2017, 07:26 PM
I can't see KO times anywhere - do we know? cheers

King William
11-07-2017, 07:30 PM
I can't see KO times anywhere - do we know? cheers

3pm French time

BadenEagle
11-07-2017, 07:40 PM
England > France > Belgium > Luxembourg > France > Metz maybe quicker than England > France > Metz. Views welcome.

Calais - Reims - Metz is quickest route but will cost ca. Euro 35 each way in Autoroute tolls. I drive this route often and always drive through France. It is shorter and there is less traffic, meaning a generally more relaxed Journey.

Braintree Eagle
11-07-2017, 07:40 PM
All booked! A little road trip this time! :lux::lux:

Flappy Chicken
11-07-2017, 10:10 PM
Leaving the Wednesday before:

Brisbane to Paris (Plane) - 23h 40mins via Abu Dubai
Paris to Metz (Train)- 1h 24mins

:eek:

N Herts Eagle
11-07-2017, 10:20 PM
Calais - Reims - Metz is quickest route but will cost ca. Euro 35 each way in Autoroute tolls. I drive this route often and always drive through France. It is shorter and there is less traffic, meaning a generally more relaxed Journey. Just a thought is this not the time when France has its exodus away from Paris for the summer hoildays. Or is it the following weekend

SKATE
12-07-2017, 09:55 AM
All booked! A little road trip this time! :lux::lux:


Excellent!! See you there!

Braintree Eagle
12-07-2017, 12:23 PM
Excellent!! See you there!

:lux::lux:

Duffle Coat
12-07-2017, 12:27 PM
I suppose Crystal Metz has been done to death already?

SilentAssassin
12-07-2017, 02:55 PM
I suppose Crystal Metz has been done to death already?

Not even sure which part of this is the pun.

frenchy zozio
12-07-2017, 06:18 PM
Hello Eagles fans
If anyone need help, and could support my bad english level to have it, dont hesitate.
Im a froggy FC METZ fan since 30 yrs, and I live in Metz since 20 yrs, maybe I ve got some good advices for you ;).

King William
12-07-2017, 07:59 PM
Hello Eagles fans
If anyone need help, and could support my bad english level to have it, dont hesitate.
Im a froggy FC METZ fan since 30 yrs, and I live in Metz since 20 yrs, maybe I ve got some good advices for you ;).

Good bars for good beer?
Cheers

glayzier
12-07-2017, 09:14 PM
Ferry booked, hotel booked....
No stopping in Calais this time ������

Polak
12-07-2017, 09:19 PM
Just a thought is this not the time when France has its exodus away from Paris for the summer hoildays. Or is it the following weekend
I think that it's that weekend but all weekends are busy on the roads from mid to late July. I think that it's best to drive down on the Friday if possible.

kabbott
12-07-2017, 09:27 PM
Hello Eagles fans
If anyone need help, and could support my bad english level to have it, dont hesitate.
Im a froggy FC METZ fan since 30 yrs, and I live in Metz since 20 yrs, maybe I ve got some good advices for you ;).

:hi:

Allez l'OL! :lux:

Apparently there's a brasserie/restaurant called le Kristal Palace in Metz!

kabbott
12-07-2017, 09:31 PM
Just a thought is this not the time when France has its exodus away from Paris for the summer hoildays. Or is it the following weekend

You're right. It will be the busiest weekend (with the one after that) with July holidaymakers going home and the August ones heading off. Most will be heading south or coming back from the south. Motorways in the north-east of France will be busier than usual, but things shouldn't be too bad. Leaving on the Friday would not be a bad idea at all.

frenchy zozio
12-07-2017, 09:59 PM
bars :
-> beer bars, not cheap, but large choice and good diversity : "Au fut et a mesure", 12 rue de la pierre hardie or " les BerThom", 24 rue du Palais
-> "UK style in french eyez" bars : "irish Pub", 3 place de chambre or Vivian's Pub fairy, place Saint Louis
-> nice spots to have a drink/beer a in bar terrace : place Saint Jacques, Place Saint Louis, Place de la Comédie, Place d'Armes et Jean Paul II. U could sit, enjoy a sunny saturday in the old town, and quietly look at french youthful beauty doing their shopping

At 90%, you 'll drink french blonde beer. If ure searching for belgian or special ones, just ask for it.
What to order : "un demi" (say it like demi moore) ->25 cl
"une choppe" (say it shop) -> 50 cl
"biere pression" (say it press+Ian) ->draught beer
"bière bouteille" (say it boot+hey) -> bottle beer

prices : 2.5 to 4€ ->25cl

I hope that Im understandable.

For those that use their car, nobody here is using the french trip Metz -> Reims -> Lille -> England. Far away more expensive than the belgian/luxemburg way. Motorway is free in Belgium and Lux, and the part from Lux to Metz too. But its really expensive in the french way. Moreover, gas and tobacco are really cheap in Luxembourg. We ALL buy it in Lux.

So, if any of u have any quastion, just ask ;)

frenchy zozio
12-07-2017, 10:00 PM
I think that it's that weekend but all weekends are busy on the roads from mid to late July. I think that it's best to drive down on the Friday if possible.

+1

frenchy zozio
12-07-2017, 10:04 PM
:hi:

Allez l'OL! :lux:

Apparently there's a brasserie/restaurant called le Kristal Palace in Metz!

Vla le voyage épique de Lyon à Metz l'année dernière... ^^

Krystal Palace is one of the worst restaurant in Metz, sry for that. But an english name for a restaurant in France... how could it be different ^^

BadenEagle
13-07-2017, 07:24 AM
Just a thought is this not the time when France has its exodus away from Paris for the summer hoildays. Or is it the following weekend

Hadn't considered this, but as others have said I still believe it is the best option. Fra - Bel - Lux - Metz will be busy for the same reasons and the stretch Lille - Charleroi - Namur is always heavy with traffic.

Simon Sledger
13-07-2017, 08:04 AM
Hello Eagles fans
If anyone need help, and could support my bad english level to have it, dont hesitate.
Im a froggy FC METZ fan since 30 yrs, and I live in Metz since 20 yrs, maybe I ve got some good advices for you ;).


Welcome to our forum :p

Is it easy to get drugs out there and if so what is the best area for the best party scene? Or would it be advised to bring stuff out? Also, good prostitute scene?

kabbott
13-07-2017, 08:35 AM
Welcome to our forum :p

Is it easy to get drugs out there and if so what is the best area for the best party scene? Or would it be advised to bring stuff out? Also, good prostitute scene?

Age: 61 :D

frenchy zozio
13-07-2017, 09:03 AM
Simon, am I allowed to respond about drugs in public? or in MP?

Metz is not really known for his party scene. 2 or 3 clubs in the first belt (commercial area, need cab or car to go, no metro, no night bus, no public transport at all), 1 gay club downtown, lot of bars and pubs open till 2 or 3 AM if weather is nice, lot of folks around.
Bazard Sainte Marie (1 rue sainte marie) is one of the "place to be" this time.
But honestly, clubbers and so are leaving Metz for Luxembourg, Germany or Paris when its time to party

frenchy zozio
13-07-2017, 09:12 AM
Prostitute : like drugs,its illegal in Fr, but in Avenue Foch and Place St thiebault, u could find easely what u're szearching for. If u've got a car, drive to germany, saarbruecken, lot of "maison close" (brothel)

Simon Sledger
13-07-2017, 10:35 AM
Prostitute : like drugs,its illegal in Fr, but in Avenue Foch and Place St thiebault, u could find easely what u're szearching for. If u've got a car, drive to germany, saarbruecken, lot of "maison close" (brothel)

Thank you for your information.

At our club we have a great reputable reputation (especially our hardcore travelling support, not so much on this message board) of a lively drink/drug scene so we are looking forward to our visit. I will send you a private massage so we don't have to open source. looking forward to it!

CP Satellite
13-07-2017, 10:40 AM
I was told the Swedish prime minister will be there.

frenchy zozio
13-07-2017, 11:50 AM
Thank you for your information.

At our club we have a great reputable reputation (especially our hardcore travelling support, not so much on this message board) of a lively drink/drug scene so we are looking forward to our visit. I will send you a private massage so we don't have to open source. looking forward to it!

sorry Im married

frenchy zozio
13-07-2017, 11:50 AM
I was told the Swedish prime minister will be there.

he's our new striker ;)

strawberry mivi
13-07-2017, 01:44 PM
I think that it's that weekend but all weekends are busy on the roads from mid to late July. I think that it's best to drive down on the Friday if possible.The roads will be busiest on the right hand side.
If you stick to the left hand lane you should be OK.

Dorking .Eagle
13-07-2017, 04:59 PM
Prostitute : like drugs,its illegal in Fr, but in Avenue Foch and Place St thiebault, u could find easely what u're szearching for. If u've got a car, drive to germany, saarbruecken, lot of "maison close" (brothel)

How appropriately named :D
I am sure Baldy's route will somehow be via Amsterdam:lux:

CP Satellite
13-07-2017, 08:36 PM
he's our new striker ;)

Sounds like he comes with his own physio::

Gbiqj1skGkk

PeterH
14-07-2017, 04:39 AM
Leaving the Wednesday before:

Brisbane to Paris (Plane) - 23h 40mins via Abu Dubai
Paris to Metz (Train)- 1h 24mins

:eek:


:eek::eek::eek:

Ardent Eagle Forever
14-07-2017, 05:40 AM
Bugger driving past metz on 3rd August on my way to Bulgaria. Can they reschedule for that date?

glayzier
17-07-2017, 04:50 AM
Any ticket info yet for this one..

glayzier
17-07-2017, 11:43 AM
2 pages and nobody has mentioned tying the Calais goalkeeper to the goalposts yet :supergrin:

I was there....and got a lift back into town on the team coach :):):)

Helloclouds
18-07-2017, 03:10 PM
Anyone know when the tickets go on sale?

sherstonpalace
18-07-2017, 03:26 PM
Anyone know when the tickets go on sale?

I called the box office this morning. They said they still haven't received the tickets from Metz, which is frustrating all round.
I've e-mailed Metz asking if we can buy tickets on the day....will post if I hear back.

frenchy zozio
18-07-2017, 04:37 PM
They are on sale in our website. 15€, no so cheap

AddoWolz
18-07-2017, 05:14 PM
Anyone know when the tickets go on sale?

No official away tickets :eek: ...........yet ...........

Santos-er
18-07-2017, 05:39 PM
I will send you a private massage so we don't have to open source.!

Sorry, but this instantly sprang to mind when I saw that post :D


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1244618756/allo-allo-arthur-bostrom-as-officer-crabtree--2_400x400.jpg

Helloclouds
18-07-2017, 08:47 PM
I called the box office this morning. They said they still haven't received the tickets from Metz, which is frustrating all round.
I've e-mailed Metz asking if we can buy tickets on the day....will post if I hear back.
Thanks for the update..

sherstonpalace
20-07-2017, 10:10 AM
Thanks for the update..

I heard back from the Metz box office. Tickets are now on sale on their website, but as far as I can gather only for the home supporters' sections. When I asked if I could buy a ticket for the Palace 'end', this is what they said:


Nous ne gérons pas la tribune visiteur pour l'équipe de Crystal Palace.


Nous vous orientons vers le club qui gère la tribune extérieur à savoir Crystal Palace pour ce match.

Merci de votre compréhension.

I'm very uneasy about making travel commitments until I know I can get a ticket in our section of the stadium - although common sense would suggest that someone in a Palace shirt would be able to buy a ticket on the day for the right part of the ground.

Dorking .Eagle
20-07-2017, 12:13 PM
Nous ne gérons pas la tribune visiteur pour l'équipe de Crystal Palace.


Nous vous orientons vers le club qui gère la tribune extérieur à savoir Crystal Palace pour ce match.

Merci de votre compréhension.

.

We do not manage the visitors' stand for the Crystal Palace team.


We direct you to the club that manages the outside stand to know Crystal Palace for this match.

Thank you for your understanding


Not unduly concerned with that. Palace will sell them soon I would have thought

SHIPEAGLE
20-07-2017, 01:38 PM
i have heard that there is a security meeting at Metz tomorrow to discuss arrangements for our match.
apparantly may be a shortage of Police and they may bring in the army to help.
Also heard the usual away supporter area may not be available due to work being done at the ground.
Should know more tomorrow.

Metz may get a bit of a shock when hundreds of Palace turn up

Sam Spade
20-07-2017, 04:47 PM
I was told the Swedish prime minister will be there.

It's all lars.

Chillo
21-07-2017, 07:53 PM
When I asked if I could buy a ticket for the Palace 'end', this is what they said:


Nous ne gérons pas la tribune visiteur pour l'équipe de Crystal Palace.


Nous vous orientons vers le club qui gère la tribune extérieur à savoir Crystal Palace pour ce match.

Merci de votre compréhension.

I think that reads:-

We understand that the match is a week away and Palace think they can flog their tickets in a couple of days, but don't really care as the don't make any money out of it.

I think that's what it says.

kabbott
21-07-2017, 08:33 PM
On their site, "rendez-vous exceptionnel ... une rencontre de gala!" :D

sherstonpalace
22-07-2017, 09:24 AM
I think that reads:-

We understand that the match is a week away and Palace think they can flog their tickets in a couple of days, but don't really care as the don't make any money out of it.

I think that's what it says.

I've almost given up trying to get to this. No way am I going to fork out the air miles for a flight until I'm sure I can get a ticket for the match.

King William
22-07-2017, 09:38 AM
I've almost given up trying to get to this. No way am I going to fork out the air miles for a flight until I'm sure I can get a ticket for the match.

Why do you think you are not going to get a ticket for a preseason friendly?

PeterH
22-07-2017, 09:52 AM
I've almost given up trying to get to this. No way am I going to fork out the air miles for a flight until I'm sure I can get a ticket for the match.

In what way are you forking out using air miles. Live dangerously...

bonzo
22-07-2017, 12:48 PM
Apperently might be moving to a 12pm kick off.
Screwed my plans if so.

sherstonpalace
22-07-2017, 01:10 PM
In what way are you forking out using air miles. Live dangerously...

There is tax payable on air miles tickets.

sherstonpalace
22-07-2017, 01:17 PM
Apperently might be moving to a 12pm kick off.
Screwed my plans if so.

Still 3pm according to the FC Metz website.

The problem is that our box office still haven't been sent our tickets.

mroakley9
22-07-2017, 01:19 PM
On their site, "rendez-vous exceptionnel ... une rencontre de gala!" :D

:D

They're in for a treat when Jordon Mutch gets on the pitch

SilentAssassin
22-07-2017, 01:36 PM
:D

They're in for a treat when Jordon Mutch gets on the pitch

I think the annual Jordon Mutch turnout has been and passed. Those at Maidstone were the lucky ones.

Dorking .Eagle
22-07-2017, 03:40 PM
Went to the box office this morning. Really don't want to get anyone worried or relay any duff info, but the guy serving said his understanding was:-

- Metz are working on the normal away stand, so that won't be open
- they don't feel the need to provide any tickets for away fans as its only a friendly
- Palace said could we have a block somewhere else in the ground and just segregate it for Palace fans, but Metz don't want to do that for some reason
- the 'Premier League' are going to talk to Metz asap to ask for a section for Palace fans (wasn't entirely convinced by this last bit)

I did say to the box office chap it was pretty likely a few hundred Palace fans were going anyway, so it would be best if something could be sorted, he was keen to point out this isn't Palace's stance, and Palace would be more than happy for their fans to have a section provided for them.

All a bit odd. Not saying we are a massive following, but I can only think Metz don't realise the sort of numbers that are likely to come.

I suspect FC Metz are expecting a tiny crowd, maybe circa 1000, and just don't understand that Palace fans will travel for this!

SHIPEAGLE
22-07-2017, 03:59 PM
Whoever at Palace arranged this friendly without agreeing a ticket allocation should be answerable to supporters.
Same with tickets for Hong Kong in agreeing to enter the club should have insisted in an allocation of tickets for suporters wishing to travel rather than such supporters having to buy via a HK Website,a number of supporters had to resort to unauthorised ticket agencies to get tickets at inflated prices. Then the Club get tickets from the Premier League late in the day, after most travelling had sourced tickets through other channels.
Very poor supporter care from the Club

Yogya
22-07-2017, 04:12 PM
Whoever at Palace arranged this friendly without agreeing a ticket allocation should be answerable to supporters.
Same with tickets for Hong Kong in agreeing to enter the club should have insisted in an allocation of tickets for suporters wishing to travel rather than such supporters having to buy via a HK Website,a number of supporters had to resort to unauthorised ticket agencies to get tickets at inflated prices. Then the Club get tickets from the Premier League late in the day, after most travelling had sourced tickets through other channels.
Very poor supporter care from the Club

I did not realise you could get tickets for Hong Kong from the box office! Spent the whole day trying to get them through the web site but it continually crashed until sold out. Very frustrating, but I guess my bad because I thought I read that they would not be sold directly

Groinstrain
22-07-2017, 04:13 PM
Hmm....was tempted to rock up to this but from what's being said here it sounds like a bit of a shambles! Not keen on making the journey and being turned away really!

Dorking .Eagle
22-07-2017, 04:17 PM
.

SHIPEAGLE
22-07-2017, 04:21 PM
I did not realise you could get tickets for Hong Kong from the box office! Spent the whole day trying to get them through the web site but it continually crashed until sold out. Very frustrating, but I guess my bad because I thought I read that they would not be sold directly

Tickets were made available about a week before the first game (they may have been only available to ST holders/members) The Club initially referred supporters to the HK website.
I really feel there is a lack of consideration for supporters and that for such matches tickets availability should be part of the arrangements for the matches

Dorking .Eagle
22-07-2017, 04:27 PM
Graham, don't disagree with any of your comments. I think Metz are treating this game like we did our home friendly against Oman for example when we only opened one stand and it never occurred to the club that there might be any away fans or need for an away stand or section.

The HK Cup looks like essentially a Liverpool event for their Asian fans.

Paxton
22-07-2017, 04:31 PM
Thought sod it, and so set up an account and have just ordered 3 tickets online.
Have got emailed confirmation of order and seat numbers but not quite worked out how to access the actual e-tickets which I can then print, so if anyone else goes down the same route a pointer as to where I click would be appreciated!

we are in Trib Nord Basse Ouest, which I think is North stand lower tier, west section.


EDIT - Ignore the above.Managed to find how to access e-ticket printing - its MES COMMANDES
Might give it a day or two - but if, like you, I get tired of waiting, it's useful to know that there will be some red and blue in the Basse Ouest

SHIPEAGLE
22-07-2017, 04:41 PM
Graham, don't disagree with any of your comments. I think Metz are treating this game like we did our home friendly against Oman for example when we only opened one stand and it never occurred to the club that there might be any away fans or need for an away stand or section.

The HK Cup looks like essentially a Liverpool event for their Asian fans.

Well it still comes back to very poor arrangements by Palace they would know we would take a fair number to Metz after all its only about 4 hours from Calais and supporters enjoy trips into Europe, especially when its quite local. I believe that for Metz it could easily be anything from 500 upwards.

Yes HK was always going to be a Liverpool takeover due to their support in that area of the world, I heard that the Liverpool HK supporters Club were allocated 1,000 tickets, yet Palace couldn't get an allocation of say 250 tickets for their loyal supporters who were travelling all that way, leaving supporters to try their luck on a website with thousands of Asian supporters.

SHIPEAGLE
22-07-2017, 05:04 PM
I see that the Club website for ticket information has been updated in as much as reference to the HK games has been removed, yet still no detail or any information regarding tickets for the game in Metz.
Very poor by the Club they really should be saying something to supporters about Metz

SKATE
22-07-2017, 05:05 PM
Thought sod it, and so set up an account and have just ordered 3 tickets online.
Have got emailed confirmation of order and seat numbers but not quite worked out how to access the actual e-tickets which I can then print, so if anyone else goes down the same route a pointer as to where I click would be appreciated!

we are in Trib Nord Basse Ouest, which I think is North stand lower tier, west section.


EDIT - Ignore the above.Managed to find how to access e-ticket printing - its MES COMMANDES
Thanks Dorking!

Paxton
22-07-2017, 05:09 PM
I guess that in the pre-internet age, nobody would have expected to be told anything by anybody about tickets for a game like this. You'd just have had to use your ingenuity - as Dorking has done - or take your chances. So, on one level, we should stop moaning and man up.

But the way it's been handled is a bit of a shame - as there is always the chance for this sort of jaunt to be "good for morale" and generate some goodwill. Having been to both Augsburg and "Eisern Union", there was a good vibe on both occasions (bugger all loyalty points, though, natch). If CPFC has aspirations to get into Europe, it ought to be a good thing for there to be a body of travelling support (even if limited in numbers) that has been prepared to make these sort of trips in the past and enjoyed doing so.

From the point of view of the City of Metz tourist board, even a couple of hundred presumably means that their hoteliers and restaurateurs will be making several thousand Euros which they wouldn't otherwise have had.

So if CPFC can't/won't tell us what's going on, maybe there's an opportunity there for FC Metz to make us feel a wee bit welcome and generate that goodwill?

JannerEagle
22-07-2017, 05:15 PM
I'm not really sure what the worry is?
At both Augsburg and Union Berlin we just turned up on the day and bought tickets at the ground. They were pleased to see us on both occasions (especially the riot police in Augsburg!)

Paxton
22-07-2017, 05:25 PM
I'm not really sure what the worry is?
At both Augsburg and Union Berlin we just turned up on the day and bought tickets at the ground. They were pleased to see us on both occasions (especially the riot police in Augsburg!)
Correct - though, in each case, I seem to remember some sort of announcement in reasonable time beforehand that it was pay on the day.

I'm not worried - but I guess the worry is that if Metz are only opening part of the ground and selling tickets online, it's just possible that that limited number of tickets might sell out. And, not exactly a worry, but some of us who are going in ones and twos might prefer not to be dotted around whatever part of the ground is open.

But I'm sure it'll all be alright one way or another

old git
22-07-2017, 05:49 PM
Heard a rumour that the police don't want any Palace there due to previous bad behaviour by the Metz fans.
No way of verifying this.

pauldrulez
22-07-2017, 05:56 PM
i have heard that there is a security meeting at Metz tomorrow to discuss arrangements for our match.
apparantly may be a shortage of Police and they may bring in the army to help.
Also heard the usual away supporter area may not be available due to work being done at the ground.
Should know more tomorrow.

Metz may get a bit of a shock when hundreds of Palace turn up

The Palace fans may get a shock when the Metz Ultras return from their recent stadium ban for this game.

Baguettes at the ready.

Dorking .Eagle
22-07-2017, 06:26 PM
Sorry if my posts came across as knicker-wetting. Have been to all the forementioned European jaunts, and plenty of others, and in this modern day and age we are admittedly spoilt, with regards to being spoon-fed ticket info for such games.

Seemed like a shame to have a European game at a 'proper' stadium (not some field like Fussen), and probably no away section, not because I'm reluctant to mix with home fans at such a low key game, but because it's rather nice camaraderie to get there and meet friends old and new and share stories of various trains, planes and automobiles (and the odd ferry!)

Sp1Eagle
22-07-2017, 06:32 PM
Cheers for the updates. Would be nice (with less then a week to go) that the clubs could at least confirm the KO time.

Dorking .Eagle
22-07-2017, 06:38 PM
3pm (French time)

King William
22-07-2017, 06:42 PM
Heard a rumour that the police don't want any Palace there due to previous bad behaviour by the Metz fans.
No way of verifying this.

There game v West Ham a few years back was a bit lively

Sp1Eagle
22-07-2017, 06:42 PM
e-ticket says 3pm (French time)

Apperently might be moving to a 12pm kick off.
Screwed my plans if so.

.

JannerEagle
22-07-2017, 07:04 PM
Heard a rumour that the police don't want any Palace there due to previous bad behaviour by the Metz fans.
No way of verifying this.
Then why havent the Metz police passed on their wish to the Palace fans or at least to the Club?

Dorking .Eagle
22-07-2017, 07:08 PM
Too late for that. I'd say at least 50% of these that would be travelling would have booked stuff within 24 hours of the fixture announcement (certainly the way EasyJet flights shot up would suggest so). No biggie.

glayzier
22-07-2017, 07:23 PM
Too late for that. I'd say at least 50% of these that would be travelling would have booked stuff within 24 hours of the fixture announcement (certainly the way EasyJet flights shot up would suggest so). No biggie. Just treat it like Luton away 1990.

Exactly. Booked within 48hrs.
Eurotunnel booked, hotel booked, euro breakdown bought, and,and,and a Red Triangle.
Getting nervous now :very angry.

All based on the last line of the below from July 11th.

https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2017/july/palace-to-face-metz-in-friendly/

Sp1Eagle
22-07-2017, 08:09 PM
Metz fans seem to think it will be us causing trouble http://www.forum-fcmetz.com/viewtopic.php?t=19981

BERT'S HEAD
22-07-2017, 08:12 PM
This could be a very unpleasant day out, though I sure hope I am wrong....

Paxton
22-07-2017, 09:08 PM
Sorry if my posts came across as knicker-wetting. Have been to all the forementioned European jaunts, and plenty of others, and in this modern day and age we are admittedly spoilt, with regards to being spoon-fed ticket info for such games.

Seemed like a shame to have a European game at a 'proper' stadium (not some field like Fussen), and probably no away section, not because I'm reluctant to mix with home fans at such a low key game, but because it's rather nice camaraderie to get there and meet friends old and new and share stories of various trains, planes and automobiles (and the odd ferry!)

No biggie in the scheme of things and if we're in with the Metz Ultras, then Vive La difference!
They didn't come across as knicker-wetting at all.

I agree with your every word. It's "a shame".

I hope I find myself sitting next to you.

Paxton
22-07-2017, 09:40 PM
Metz fans seem to think it will be us causing trouble http://www.forum-fcmetz.com/viewtopic.php?t=19981
Don't be nervous or angry, Glayzier. It'll be fine. But what your CPFC news item (which I too remembered) shows is that the club knew from the outset that there would be some Palace fans. And Metz must have known that too.

What comes across to me from the Metz boards is that their fans are almost as much in the dark as we are - all that stuff about not knowing where season ticket holders are going to be sitting.

And, of course, because we know different, we underestimate the extent to which any English club is going to be preceded by a certain reputation.

Janner is right. At Augsburg, somebody had got it into their heads that the riot police would be needed. There was a small segregated area for the few hundred who turned up. We all played nicely and queued up to buy plastic smart cards for the non-alcoholic beer. Nothing to see whatsoever. A very friendly steward told me that the German away fans with the biggest reputation for needing the riot police were, ironically....Schalke.

As far as I can tell, and I'm as much in the dark as everyone else, at Metz there simply isn't going to be an away area, their season ticket holders aren't going to be in the North Stand and the North Lower is the only area on (effectively mixed) pre-sale. As it is, therefore,, it looks as if, on the day, the Metz police/club (who may suspect we're all hooligans) could well be faced with a few hundred (non-hooligan) Palace supporters with a mixture of North Lower tickets or no tickets at all - and have to decide what to do about it. It's not ideal.

Presumably, everyone's in Hong Kong. But if I were SP, I'd want someone to get a grip of this situation pronto first thing Monday. The silly thing is that if the clubs had addressed this when the fixture was first arranged, we'd have been on each other's message boards for a couple of weeks now building up a bit of international friendship - and explaining that you don't need the riot police when Palace come to town.

As it is, you've got Palace fans who have splashed out their hard earned dosh wondering, effectively, whether they've been conned. And others who'd have loved to go, but felt they couldn't risk it. It's not great.

JannerEagle
23-07-2017, 05:40 PM
Looking at their website today it does say that (if you have problems to buy online) there are 'sale points' at the stadium, the club shop and in town - but of course they may not sell to the English!

3 billets s'il vous plaît, mon bon homme! :p

Dorking .Eagle
23-07-2017, 07:22 PM
Someone on HOL just posted the following (an email from the CPFC box office today)

Dear Tom,

Thank you for contacting us.

Unfortunately FC Metz have not given us an allocation of tickets to sell for this game as of yet, it appears online they are only selling tickets to home fans.

If we do receive an allocation or any other means for our fans to buy tickets for this game, we will get this information announced on our official club website.

Kind regards

Sam C

Back from exile
23-07-2017, 08:11 PM
Someone on HOL just posted the following (an email from the CPFC box office today)



Dear Tom,



Thank you for contacting us.



Unfortunately FC Metz have not given us an allocation of tickets to sell for this game as of yet, it appears online they are only selling tickets to home fans.



If we do receive an allocation or any other means for our fans to buy tickets for this game, we will get this information announced on our official club website.



Kind regards



Sam C


Cheers Dorking.

Guess the Club are going to have a fair few claims for compensation if tickets do not go on sale. It was quite clear originally that ticket details would follow...........

tlr_cpfc
23-07-2017, 08:44 PM
If Metz gave the impression they'd be tickets and then haven't. Can't we make a point and withdraw from the fixture and play something more local?

CPFC.1990
23-07-2017, 08:55 PM
Cheers Dorking.

Guess the Club are going to have a fair few claims for compensation if tickets do not go on sale. It was quite clear originally that ticket details would follow...........

Why is it the clubs fault if Metz decide they don't want away fans??

It's hardly the clubs fault if people paid for travel before having a ticket in hand is it?

glayzier
23-07-2017, 09:10 PM
Why is it the clubs fault if Metz decide they don't want away fans??

It's hardly the clubs fault if people paid for travel before having a ticket in hand is it?

Really?
The club announced on 11/7 a pre season friendly. Ticket information to follow.
Or should we just take it as one of those
"The cheque is in the post"
"I promise I won't c.. in your mouth"
Moments

glayzier
23-07-2017, 09:11 PM
If Metz gave the impression they'd be tickets and then haven't. Can't we make a point and withdraw from the fixture and play something more local?

That'll be lovely. Maybe I can transfer my eurotunnel tickets and hotel to,,,,,,,,,,Carshalton away !!

Chillo
23-07-2017, 09:14 PM
Sorry if my posts came across as knicker-wetting.

Not in the slightest; frustrated, yes, knicker-wetting, no.

I think the response from CPFC has been pathetic:-

- 11th July - "Ticket information will be announced shortly".

Fans rush to book flights etc., based on the above.

- 12th July to 21st July - nothing from CPFC.

- 22nd July - email from Sam C in the BO to a fan who posts it on HOL, including "If we do receive an allocation or any other means for our fans to buy tickets for this game, we will get this information announced on our official club website."

The match is on Sat 29th July. :wallbash:

Do the fans matter? No, we don't pay the players wages, effectively the TV revenue does that, but yes, we're the ones who make the noise in the stadiums and make the product attractive for the TV.

For all the praise on CPFC for certain dealings, how can CPFC act is such an amateur way? With this as one (of many) examples of how fans are treated, CPFC shows itself to be Conference league level, once again.

SilentAssassin
24-07-2017, 06:47 AM
The Palace fans may get a shock when the Metz Ultras return from their recent stadium ban for this game.

Baguettes at the ready.

Quite the opposite actually. One of their main groups, strangely enough also called HF, have called on Metz to allow us a section in the stadium. :p

I'm hopeful the situation will be resolved in the week, though that is me just stringing pieces of information together.

Paxton
24-07-2017, 07:41 AM
Presumably, everyone's in Hong Kong. But if I were SP, I'd want someone to get a grip of this situation pronto first thing Monday.
Repeat. In bold.

The Metz supporters seem to be frustrated with their club over this.

http://www.forum-fcmetz.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=19981&start=60

And a "What else can we do? If the phone rings, we answer it" attitude isn't going to get anyone anywhere.

It would be ludicrous if this ended up with some totally unnecessary situation involving riot police or people being turned away

frenchy zozio
24-07-2017, 07:51 AM
Hello CPFC fans.
Im gonna call our ticket center this morning. I'll explain them that :
1 : it's a shame how we don't give a F about CPFC fan's
2 : a lot of FCM fans didnt agree with the way they handle it, especially lies like "stadium is Under construction", "we dont have enough cops"...:

Then I 'll start "adopt a CPFC fan" operation, maybe u coundt have ure own CPFC place in the stadium, but u wont be alone.

biggus mickus
24-07-2017, 08:04 AM
Really?
The club announced on 11/7 a pre season friendly. Ticket information to follow.
Or should we just take it as one of those
"The cheque is in the post"
"I promise I won't c.. in your mouth"
Moments

Ticket information to follow.

There are no tickets. That covered it.

biggus mickus
24-07-2017, 08:08 AM
Cheers Dorking.

Guess the Club are going to have a fair few claims for compensation if tickets do not go on sale. It was quite clear originally that ticket details would follow...........

Metz are the problem, not Palace.

Sp1Eagle
24-07-2017, 08:14 AM
I repeat this. In bold.
The Metz supporters seem to be frustrated with their club over this.
http://www.forum-fcmetz.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=19981&start=60
And a "What else can we do? If the phone rings we answer it" attitude isn't going to get anyone anywhere.
It would be totally ludicrous if this ended up in some totally unnecessary situation involving riot police or people being turned away

"Everybody boycotts and we all go downtown with them"

:lux::lux:

Dorking .Eagle
24-07-2017, 08:23 AM
.

frenchy zozio
24-07-2017, 08:57 AM
So, they dont give a F about their own fans either...

@ dorking eagle : it works, I had pb too but finally it works, u just have to fill blanks with ure name, ID number...

Yoda
24-07-2017, 09:33 AM
It's a bit odd to accept a friendly against a club that then doesn't seem to be welcoming your fans....rude really.

What are we talking about...less than a hundred Palace fans?

They could have a designated part of the ground and, if Metz can't issue tickets in advance, at least clarify that tickets will be available on the day for that stand.

It's not as if Palace fans have a bad rep for fighting abroad.

A friendly match should welcome fans of both teams.

Paxton
24-07-2017, 09:39 AM
It's a bit odd to accept a friendly against a club that then doesn't seem to be welcoming your fans....rude really.

What are we talking about...less than a hundred Palace fans?

They could have a designated part of the ground and, if Metz can't issue tickets in advance, at least clarify that tickets will be available on the day for that stand.

It's not as if Palace fans have a bad rep for fighting abroad.

A friendly match should welcome fans of both teams.
This

Dorking .Eagle
24-07-2017, 09:44 AM
.

ForzaPalace
24-07-2017, 09:45 AM
A lot of pant wetting over a meaningless pre season friendly

HOL_Beagle
24-07-2017, 09:54 AM
Repeat. In bold.

The Metz supporters seem to be frustrated with their club over this.

http://www.forum-fcmetz.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=19981&start=60



Im still trying to get my head around Google's translation of one post as "Note that this seems to be an unnamed brothel for eagles who want to come"

:D

Dorking .Eagle
24-07-2017, 09:56 AM
A lot of pant wetting over a meaningless pre season friendly

Maybe. Tickets will probably be on sale on the day and several of us are worrying about nothing.

On the positive, I'm confident I'll get further than Dover ;)

ForzaPalace
24-07-2017, 10:19 AM
People might just have to leave their replica shirts at home for once and go in the home end, worst case scenario

JannerEagle
24-07-2017, 10:20 AM
A lot of pant wetting over a meaningless pre season friendly

The 'pant wetting' is because quite a lot of Palace fans have spent quite a lot of money to go and watch their team play away !! And would quite like to ensure we get in!

Everybody is just trying to help each other out - if you're not going, don't worry!!

metzfan
24-07-2017, 10:42 AM
Hi everyone,

I'm a Metz fan since I was young. I live in Metz, born and raised.

Don't be surprised in the way Fc Metz are handling things regarding your away tickets, because I'm not.

Ticket office in Metz are incredibly terrible, even for a Metz fan.

The club is afraid about damages you might do and afraid about potential fights with our local fans which would require more police forces.

We have our problem last year (away fans banned from our stadium several time, Metz fans banned for away matches....).

For those who'll come to Metz, I do hope you're going to enjoy our nice city and the game! ;)

CPFC.1990
24-07-2017, 10:45 AM
Really?
The club announced on 11/7 a pre season friendly. Ticket information to follow.
Or should we just take it as one of those
"The cheque is in the post"
"I promise I won't c.. in your mouth"
Moments

Well I don't see many Maidstone/Palace fans moaning for not seeing a first team and wanting compensation.

SHIPEAGLE
24-07-2017, 10:59 AM
Well I don't see many Maidstone/Palace fans moaning for not seeing a first team and wanting compensation.


Didnt cost close to £200 to go to the Maidstone game and those who went still got in to see the game

Dorking .Eagle
24-07-2017, 11:34 AM
If Metz can't or don't wish to provide the necessary security, maybe Palace could

frenchy zozio
24-07-2017, 11:48 AM
People might just have to leave their replica shirts at home for once and go in the home end, worst case scenario

no need to, nobody will say anything if u wear your colors.

CPFC.1990
24-07-2017, 11:52 AM
Didnt cost close to £200 to go to the Maidstone game and those who went still got in to see the game

But what have Palace done wrong.....?

All they said was tickets news shortly. The news is there is none. People really can't blame the club because they didn't wait.

glayzier
24-07-2017, 11:58 AM
But what have Palace done wrong.....?

All they said was tickets news shortly. The news is there is none. People really can't blame the club because they didn't wait.

Then they should not of advertised that ticket news will be following shortly....If there was none !!!!

frenchy zozio
24-07-2017, 11:59 AM
Merci, but no success!
Did you buy more than one ticket in your transaction?

lets use smthg like MP, Skype, teamviewer, pornhub... It will be more efficient;

SHIPEAGLE
24-07-2017, 12:02 PM
understand that there should be an announcement later today by the Club.

frenchy zozio
24-07-2017, 12:03 PM
Im still trying to get my head around Google's translation of one post as "Note that this seems to be an unnamed brothel for eagles who want to come"

:D

un bordel sans nom, french expression that mean : total bloody mess. And yes, sex is everywhere in France, even in the mess

biggus mickus
24-07-2017, 12:12 PM
Then they should not of advertised that ticket news will be following shortly....If there was none !!!!

They might not have known, at that time. Metz are at fault here, not Palace. Its cost me air fare too. I aint blaming Palace on this. No way.

CPFC.1990
24-07-2017, 12:17 PM
Then they should not of advertised that ticket news will be following shortly....If there was none !!!!

They obviously weren't aware there would be no tickets....They had not said that fans could definitely go did they?

CPFC.1990
24-07-2017, 12:17 PM
They might not have known, at that time. Metz are at fault here, not Palace. Its cost me air fare too. I aint blaming Palace on this. No way.

Exactly correct!

SilentAssassin
24-07-2017, 12:31 PM
I wouldn't be buying tickets off Metz just yet for the home end. As said, worse case scenario is that there will be fans on the door queeing up for tickets, not ideal but not the end of the world. Metz fans seem pretty welcoming of the prospect if that does happen which is great.

I'm still confident something can be worked out between Palace and Metz.

DaveTuttles
24-07-2017, 12:33 PM
Plenty of brothels to visit should the game not be accessible anyway

SKATE
24-07-2017, 12:35 PM
They might not have known, at that time. Metz are at fault here, not Palace. Its cost me air fare too. I aint blaming Palace on this. No way.

Ooh are you coming to Metz too! Excellent if so! Bringing Mik?

biggus mickus
24-07-2017, 02:25 PM
Ooh are you coming to Metz too! Excellent if so! Bringing Mik?

No tickets, no travel.

Braintree Eagle
24-07-2017, 06:16 PM
I can't believe we won't be able to get into a pre-season friendly by paying on the day. I'm sure everyone will gravitate together in some pub before so we can create our own away end if we all walk up and buy in the same area.

I'm sure it will be fine! I can't wait!

CPFC.1990
24-07-2017, 06:47 PM
Then they should not of advertised that ticket news will be following shortly....If there was none !!!!

The news is there is none, they clearly didn't know that..... The club would assume there would be ticket, the fact that people have gone ahead and booked without actual tickets is not the clubs fault at all.

frenchy zozio
24-07-2017, 07:02 PM
Im not allowed to post URL but on your website they say how to buy ticket

frenchy zozio
24-07-2017, 07:03 PM
https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2017/july/ticket-info-fc-metz-friendly/

now Im allowed ^^

Dorking .Eagle
24-07-2017, 07:06 PM
Merci Philippe. You have been a tremendous help in understanding the situation from the Metz side of things, and also practical assistance for myself any my family. And I am sure several Palace fans will appreciate your tips for the brothels ;)

mether
24-07-2017, 07:08 PM
Why selling stages for a friendly?

Dorking .Eagle
24-07-2017, 07:09 PM
Very small number of tickets. Metz didn't want to give us any tbf

SilentAssassin
24-07-2017, 07:11 PM
Points system for a friendly seems incredibly unnecessary but at least the situation has been sorted and we have our own end for the game.

ForzaPalace
24-07-2017, 07:15 PM
Mental

https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2017/july/ticket-info-fc-metz-friendly/

knowlesyUCLA
24-07-2017, 07:18 PM
5000 points first phase is an absolute joke. Must've given us about 200.

GreatGonzo
24-07-2017, 07:25 PM
Wonder if the club are having to send out stewards as well to the game to police a small number of fans. Can only be 200/250 to have such a high starting point.

King William
24-07-2017, 07:27 PM
5000 points!!
******* ell!

Would be handy if they told us how many tixs

Dorking .Eagle
24-07-2017, 07:28 PM
Wonder if the club are having to send out stewards as well to the game to police a small number of fans. Can only be 200/250 to have such a high starting point.

Either bring some of our own security or pay/assist with the cost of the police.

Selon leurs infos, ils attendent un feu vert de Crystal P qui aurait proposé de payer pour les frais de police, vu que c'est ce qi semble bloquer de notre coté. Ils seraient du coup (attention c'est du conditionnel) environ 500/700 à faire le déplacement. Pour exemple, il y'a 2 ans contre Berlin en amical, ils se sont déplacé à 800.

Sp1Eagle
24-07-2017, 07:29 PM
FFS. Would love someone from the club to come on here and explain this.

GreatGonzo
24-07-2017, 07:34 PM
Either bring some of our own security or pay/assist with the cost of the police.

Selon leurs infos, ils attendent un feu vert de Crystal P qui aurait proposé de payer pour les frais de police, vu que c'est ce qi semble bloquer de notre coté. Ils seraient du coup (attention c'est du conditionnel) environ 500/700 à faire le déplacement. Pour exemple, il y'a 2 ans contre Berlin en amical, ils se sont déplacé à 800.

Obviously with translate it is not always able to get an exact picture but that might be we are paying the police costs in order to bring 500 fans.

Oli28
24-07-2017, 07:34 PM
Wow. Who comes up with this?

GreatGonzo
24-07-2017, 07:38 PM
Wow. Who comes up with this?

Metz, who said there would be no Palace fans going there.

Maybe the attitude on here should be to recognise that our club may have gone to significant lengths to allow some fans to go out there. In return they need to know who those fans are to help with the clearly heightened security that seems to surround this game.

I doubt we will be playing Metz again.

King William
24-07-2017, 07:42 PM
i have got 4954 points, plus someone else on friends and family with 4500, so will be getting in 2nd phase.

only me travelling though, so if someone not a member etc and thinks may miss out I am happy using my friends and family to get a 2nd ticket

kabbott
24-07-2017, 07:42 PM
It looks like Metz non season ticket holders can book tickets on line here:

https://www.billetterie-fcmetz.com/fr/meeting/21487/fc-metz-crystal-palace/stade-saint-symphorien-metz/29-07-2017/15h00

You have to create an account. You have to give an address but the UK is one of the countries you can put. BTW I haven't done any of this 'cos I unfortunately can't make it to the match.

On another part of the FC Metz website it says that you (they presumably mean Metz fans) can buy tickets to the Tribune Nord Basse ("Lower North Stand") on the day of the match from 11 o'clock.

"Les places pour le grand public sont, elles, en vente au prix unique de 15€00 en Tribune Nord Basse, et de 5€00 pour les enfants de moins de 12 ans. Réservez vos précieux billets dès maintenant, et uniquement, par internet sur www.billetterie-fcmetz.com ! Des places seront également en vente aux guichets du stade le jour du match à partir de 11h00."

Obviously all this information is for Metz fans and it wouldn't say on their site that Palace fans couldn't buy tickets this way. I'm sure if I wanted to get a ticket for the match in that part of the ground, I'd have no trouble withmy French address ...

Dorking .Eagle
24-07-2017, 07:45 PM
Wow. Who comes up with this?

Have you not been following the thread?

Metz have a history of crowd trouble, including when West Ham visited. They didn't want any away fans to come and weren't going to allocate us anything, with the excuse the away stand is being worked on and cannot be used.

Their own season ticket holders get a free ticket each so its not a money spinner for them.

The police are low in numbers as its the holidays.

The Metz Ultras put a good word in and Palace negotiated for an allocation but its pretty small.

We took 800 to Berlin as an example, so the loyalty point thing starts on high incremental stages to make sure people like Selhursthoover on 6000+ pts don't miss out.

Home end seats are still available if the allocation sells out and you have the patience to work out how to print the Metz e-tickets (its not easy)

Well done the club for being persistent and securing these.

SilentAssassin
24-07-2017, 07:46 PM
Metz, who said there would be no Palace fans going there.

Maybe the attitude on here should be to recognise that our club may have gone to significant lengths to allow some fans to go out there. In return they need to know who those fans are to help with the clearly heightened security that seems to surround this game.

I doubt we will be playing Metz again.

The thing is though that it is wholly unnecessary. As said Metz fans are perfectly fine and are looking forward to the game. Before this announcement as well Metz Ultra group released s statement supporting Palace fans to have a section in the ground.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=851384121680178&id=248264835325446

If it's down to police advice then it is British and French police to blame and shoulder some responsiblity as you could potentially have people with no tickets travelling to a game they now can't get into having already booked travel. What a mess.

Scrumpy
24-07-2017, 07:47 PM
People do love to bash the club.

Palace have clearly bent over backwards and had to agree to certain stipulations just to get a couple of hundred Palace fans there. It's is clearly Metz that have been causing the hassle.

I am also sure that had Metz made it clear from the start when this friendly was being arranged that they would be so fussy with away tickets, Palace would have refused the friendly.

oddrod
24-07-2017, 07:57 PM
Have you not been following the thread?

Metz have a history of crowd trouble, including when West Ham visited. They didn't want any away fans to come and weren't going to allocate us anything, with the excuse the away stand is being worked on and cannot be used.

Their own season ticket holders get a free ticket each so its not a money spinner for them.

The police are low in numbers as its the holidays.

The Metz Ultras and Palace negotiated for an allocation but its pretty small.

We took 800 to Berlin as an example, so the loyalty point thing starts on high incremental stages to make sure people like Selhursthoover on 6000+ pts don't miss out.

Home end seats are still available if the allocation sells out and you have the patience to work out how to print the Metz e-tickets (its not easy)

Well done the club for being persistent and securing these.

He probably hasnt followed thd thread hence the question. Yes we know its not easy. You got your knickers in a twist earlier about it.
You must have over 5000 points anyway so could have waited without the panic.

CPFC_AwayDays
24-07-2017, 08:03 PM
People do love to bash the club.

Palace have clearly bent over backwards and had to agree to certain stipulations just to get a couple of hundred Palace fans there. It's is clearly Metz that have been causing the hassle.

I am also sure that had Metz made it clear from the start when this friendly was being arranged that they would be so fussy with away tickets, Palace would have refused the friendly.

The club should have sorted how many tickets we would be allocated before arranging the friendly it's ridiculous

Dorking .Eagle
24-07-2017, 08:12 PM
He probably hasnt followed thd thread hence the question. Yes we know its not easy. You got your knickers in a twist earlier about it.
You must have over 5000 points anyway so could have waited without the panic.

Indeed. Easy to say with hindsight of course, however at the weekend it did look like no away ticket allocation, only one small part of the ground on general sale, and having forked out hundreds in total for travel arrangements (family of 3 going), really wasn't going to take the chance of being ticketless outside the ground with them not selling on the day.

Having 3 e-tickets I now don't need isn't the worst thing in the world. Total loss is the same as 1 Premier League away ticket, not too bothered about that. Do qualify to be in the Palace bit, so we can wear colours after all, and everyone's happy (I think?)

CPFC.1990
24-07-2017, 08:32 PM
Hmmm...

It seems that Metz do not want Palace fans coming.

The club have worked hard to get those who desperately want to go a ticket.

Well done the club.

People saying the Metz ultras have worked to get the Palace fans to the game. Of course Metz ultras want Palace fans at the game. A simple google of 'Metz hooligans' will show you why lack of police and Palace fans buying tickets in the home end is a recipe for huge problems.

SilentAssassin
24-07-2017, 08:36 PM
Hmmm...

It seems that Metz do not want Palace fans coming.

The club have worked hard to get those who desperately want to go a ticket.

Well done the club.

People saying the Metz ultras have worked to get the Palace fans to the game. Of course Metz ultras want Palace fans at the game. A simple google of 'Metz hooligans' will show you why lack of police and Palace fans buying tickets in the home end is a recipe for huge problems.

Did you not read the posts or thread properly?

CPFC.1990
24-07-2017, 08:42 PM
Did you not read the posts or thread properly?

Which post in particular?

Metz do not want anyone Palace without a ticket going to the match. The club website says Palace fans cannot purchase tickets on the day.

The obvious hooligan problem regarding Metz shouldn't be ignored.

Owngoal
24-07-2017, 08:53 PM
Did you not read the posts or thread properly?

I think he uses broil,
I'm sorry, I'll feel that again

It is not the reading but the understanding he has difficulty with

Martinsleftpeg
24-07-2017, 08:59 PM
I think he uses broil,

I'm sorry, I'll feel that again



It is not the reading but the understanding he has difficulty with


Sounds like the blind leading the blind here ....

PeterH
24-07-2017, 09:01 PM
I've heard on Facebook that some Russian fans are travelling looking to join with the Metz Ultras to ambush any English they find pre and post game. Especially those out on Friday and Saturday night.

CPFC.1990
24-07-2017, 09:19 PM
I think he uses broil,
I'm sorry, I'll feel that again

It is not the reading but the understanding he has difficulty with

The correct spelling is 'braille'. You thick illiterate twat!

Sick Bucket
24-07-2017, 09:23 PM
Seems like a shit choice of friendly if Metz are strongly recommending no away fans because of the risk of trouble, not a very friendly friendly fixture by the sounds of it. Shame it's too late to sake it off and sort something out with Ajax instead, now THAT would be a lot of fun :)

Olympian2
24-07-2017, 09:24 PM
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CPFC.1990
24-07-2017, 09:26 PM
I've heard on Facebook that some Russian fans are travelling looking to join with the Metz Ultras to ambush any English they find pre and post game. Especially those out on Friday and Saturday night.

Link?

Villa had big problems in Germany didn't they?

Scrumpy
24-07-2017, 09:27 PM
Link?

Villa had big problems in Germany didn't they?

Ignore him. He is just posting his usual trolling BS

Oli28
24-07-2017, 09:39 PM
Have you not been following the thread?

Metz have a history of crowd trouble, including when West Ham visited. They didn't want any away fans to come and weren't going to allocate us anything, with the excuse the away stand is being worked on and cannot be used.

Their own season ticket holders get a free ticket each so its not a money spinner for them.

The police are low in numbers as its the holidays.

The Metz Ultras put a good word in and Palace negotiated for an allocation but its pretty small.

We took 800 to Berlin as an example, so the loyalty point thing starts on high incremental stages to make sure people like Selhursthoover on 6000+ pts don't miss out.

Home end seats are still available if the allocation sells out and you have the patience to work out how to print the Metz e-tickets (its not easy)

Well done the club for being persistent and securing these.
Most of that is fair enough but there's no comparison between 100 or so Palace fans going there for a friendly this weekend and a couple of thousand West Ham fans going there 20 years ago who were intent on causing trouble.

I'm not going so I haven't followed most of the thread. Hopefully all those who've made arrangements have enough points to get themselves a ticket.

Braintree Eagle
24-07-2017, 09:55 PM
I've heard on Facebook that some Russian fans are travelling looking to join with the Metz Ultras to ambush any English they find pre and post game. Especially those out on Friday and Saturday night.

Yeah, I heard the same. Only that they are arranging a special one-off meet with the surviving members of 'Treatment'. They are then going to go to the Kristal Palace bar in Metz to meet up with Brighton. They are then all going to get tickets in the Palace end. It's going to be carnage. I think I might stay at home after all.......

PeterH
25-07-2017, 04:10 AM
Ignore him. He is just posting his usual trolling BS

Except I'm trolling Metz and their nonsense over this rather than Palace fans who want to travel to this game. It's a pre-season friendly FFS.


I suppose there is a chance that some locals might want to get lairy with Palace fans there for the beer and cheer. Leicester 1 mentioned that travelling in Europe is minefield these days cause they are all looking to have a pop.

I suggest Palace do a little research before setting up these fixtures in the future. Palace fans travel everywhere for friendlies these days - HK, The US - they can certainly assume that many will try for something like Metz on a Saturday in the summer. Talk with the opposing club and see what the situation is. If it sounds over complicated, look for another team.


I get the view that the Club haven't moved with the times. Travelling Palace fans to a pre-season friendly are a nuisance that have to be accomodated. And managers would probably prefer the games to be played behind closed doors.

Stellavista
25-07-2017, 04:39 AM
This one sounds like a bundle of laughs.

SilentAssassin
25-07-2017, 04:57 AM
Which post in particular?

Metz do not want anyone Palace without a ticket going to the match. The club website says Palace fans cannot purchase tickets on the day.

The obvious hooligan problem regarding Metz shouldn't be ignored.

Assuming this was policed advised becuase of a potential few scuffles then it has been poorly handlend. Friendly was announced a week or so ago without any ticket information, I reckon many, even including people on here woukd of booked travel straight away despite tickets not being on sale yet. Like I said earlier, if that is the case then it's been poorly handled as now there most likely will be people travelling without a ticket.

That said as pointed out earlier, I don't exactly see where this hooligan threat level is coming from, when everything points to the friendly being an amicable one so far. We play 18 Premier League games a year, all you would say, given the makeup of some supports, would want a tear up of some sorts - one thing you wouldn't expect the clubs or police to do was release tickets a week before without telling fans not to book travel without having secured a ticket for the game.

I think it's pretty clear that it is more of a complete mess of a situation. The Metz owner has past for similar with away fans in Ligue 1 matches with away fans tickets according to Metz fans. Which I would imagine no one at the club could have envisaged before arranging the friendly.

It is what it is, a poorly organised friendly.

frenchy zozio
25-07-2017, 06:57 AM
Wow.
U do love to bash your club.

News from France :
* Saturday will be a nice sunny day, 28°C
* It's still a pre season friendly in our point of view. No one in our board or around me has said things like : "rosbeef de merde", "putain d'anglais"... No. We're all happy to welcome you all.
* FC Metz has the same shitty orfganization for season ticket, day ticket, since yrs.... Sometimes beeing french is living like a caveman...
* If U dont have enough veteran points to buy your tickets in Crystal P area, u could still buy it in FCMetz billeterie, it works, even if ppl like Dorking needed help ^^
* Its a tragedy down here today. We've sold (sell?) Ismaila Sarr, the best prospect ever, better than Sadio Mané I guess... Board is on fire ^^

metzfan
25-07-2017, 08:43 AM
Happy that you're allowed to asssit the match!

A small advice : try to arrive pretty early at the stadium, or you'll miss 20min of the game....!

And be aware that beers are 100% alcohol free.....!(French law, nothing to do with Metz....!)

Enjoy your time in Metz! ;)

SKATE
25-07-2017, 08:59 AM
Just discovered I have over 5000 points!! So phase 1 for me!

SKATE
25-07-2017, 09:08 AM
The thing is though that it is wholly unnecessary. As said Metz fans are perfectly fine and are looking forward to the game. Before this announcement as well Metz Ultra group released s statement supporting Palace fans to have a section in the ground.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=851384121680178&id=248264835325446

If it's down to police advice then it is British and French police to blame and shoulder some responsiblity as you could potentially have people with no tickets travelling to a game they now can't get into having already booked travel. What a mess.

Glad I can now get a ticket to support my fetish team!

Owngoal
25-07-2017, 09:27 AM
The correct spelling is 'braille'. You thick illiterate twat!

Yes, knew you would be too thick to have known about Derek and Clive you insignificant little moronic ignaramus

HOL_Beagle
25-07-2017, 09:39 AM
I've heard on Facebook that some Russian fans are travelling looking to join with the Metz Ultras to ambush any English they find pre and post game. Especially those out on Friday and Saturday night.

Je pense que les belles 'fanatiques de la Holmesdale' (avec sont vestments noires) sont more than un match pour les puny Metz avec les cohorts de Russes pour backup.

Vive la Palace!

BadenEagle
25-07-2017, 10:01 AM
Ordered my ticket from the FC Metz website. Was easy enough to register, place order and print E-ticket. Will be sitting at Row 8 / Seat 29 in the Lower North stand. See you there

Ooh Betty
25-07-2017, 10:12 AM
What a farce.

Why on earth did we arrange a friendly without discussing ticket arrangements with Metz first ?

A bit like the Hong Kong debacle where we made no provision for our own fans to attend. Everyone had to make their own arrangements.

I assume this casual disreguard for our fans will continue again into next season and us asking for reduced allocations for popular away games.

Can we not bring Browett back to give someone a kick up the backside ?

Ninjas Headband
25-07-2017, 10:18 AM
Glad I can now get a ticket to support my fetish team!


Always thought that supporting Palace was Sadomasochism. :moo:

CPFC.1990
25-07-2017, 10:24 AM
Yes, knew you would be too thick to have known about Derek and Clive you insignificant little moronic ignaramus

Yes, because knowing the works of Peter Cook and Dudley Moore should be the yardstick by which everyone's intelligence levels should be judged.

By the way, it's spelt "ignoramus". But good try. :jerkit:

Tomo
25-07-2017, 10:32 AM
The club should have sorted how many tickets we would be allocated before arranging the friendly it's ridiculous

The friendly isn't for fans.

Yoda
25-07-2017, 11:02 AM
The friendly isn't for fans.

On what is that statement based?

Either it's a behind closed doors match for the players/managers...in which case don't sell tickets to anyone, state this is the case on your website (and why go all the way to Metz for it when there must be other clubs in England willing to do that?)...or it's a friendly match and you sell to both sets of fans.

If it's not for fans, then don't announce the match on the Palace website and say ticket info coming soon. That's dangling a carrot to excite interest.

I'm not going, but I can totally understand why some booked travel and accommodation etc.

I think Palace staff have tried to help, but it's very odd to invite a club to play you but then attempt to exclude their fans.

Pinkie Brown
25-07-2017, 11:05 AM
I think watching the u23's in Bromley may be easier, cheaper and safer - I think they even have a bouncy castle :D

selhursthoover
25-07-2017, 11:06 AM
All booked.

:p:lux::lux:

JannerEagle
25-07-2017, 11:24 AM
All booked.

:p:lux::lux:

And us! :p

Back from exile
25-07-2017, 11:29 AM
All sorted hopefully!

SKATE
25-07-2017, 11:33 AM
Ticket acquired!

metzfan
25-07-2017, 11:49 AM
Je pense que les belles 'fanatiques de la Holmesdale' (avec sont vestments noires) sont more than un match pour les puny Metz avec les cohorts de Russes pour backup.

Vive la Palace!


I don't think there'll be russian in Metz next Saturday. However I think there will be some germans as Metz Ultras are friends with some of them....

glayzier
25-07-2017, 12:51 PM
So,,,these tickets acquired. Is through the box office or Metz?

BadenEagle
25-07-2017, 01:43 PM
So,,,these tickets acquired. Is through the box office or Metz?

mine was via Metz

BBK
25-07-2017, 01:48 PM
Fwiw regarding what their group posted on Facebook, believe the opposite.

They're a right wing ultras group also.

SilentAssassin
25-07-2017, 02:28 PM
Fwiw regarding what their group posted on Facebook, believe the opposite.

They're a right wing ultras group also.

Horda Frenetik are left not that either is besides any point.

BBK
25-07-2017, 02:43 PM
Horda Frenetik are left not that either is besides any point.

The other group aren't. Was meant to be "There's".

Palace121
25-07-2017, 03:21 PM
Wow. U do love to bash your club. News from France : * Saturday will be a nice sunny day, 28°C * It's still a pre season friendly in our point of view. No one in our board or around me has said things like : "rosbeef de merde", "putain d'anglais"... No. We're all happy to welcome you all. * FC Metz has the same shitty orfganization for season ticket, day ticket, since yrs.... Sometimes beeing french is living like a caveman... * If U dont have enough veteran points to buy your tickets in Crystal P area, u could still buy it in FCMetz billeterie, it works, even if ppl like Dorking needed help ^^ * Its a tragedy down here today. We've sold (sell?) Ismaila Sarr, the best prospect ever, better than Sadio Mané I guess... Board is on fire ^^

This makes me want Palace to put in a bid. I hear he's going to Rennes for €15m.

frenchy zozio
25-07-2017, 05:17 PM
said 17M€ + 3 m€. Next season he's in Newcastle or Everton for 50...

And, we 've 2 groups, Génération grenat (GG), in the West kop, "apparently" a right wing ultras grup, and Horda Frenetik, in the east kop, "apparently" a left wing group. In my mind they clearly are, but nothing official. For example, few arabic ppl in the west kop, more in the east, and it smell weed all game long in the east, not in the west. But this is subjective ^^

Tomo
25-07-2017, 05:40 PM
On what is that statement based?

Either it's a behind closed doors match for the players/managers...in which case don't sell tickets to anyone, state this is the case on your website (and why go all the way to Metz for it when there must be other clubs in England willing to do that?)...or it's a friendly match and you sell to both sets of fans.

If it's not for fans, then don't announce the match on the Palace website and say ticket info coming soon. That's dangling a carrot to excite interest.

I'm not going, but I can totally understand why some booked travel and accommodation etc.

I think Palace staff have tried to help, but it's very odd to invite a club to play you but then attempt to exclude their fans.

The friendly is for the players to test them against a standard of oppo we wouldn't find in this country.

Club were probably long to make people wait for so long, but I don't see why some fans seem so entitled.
Seems like with a bit of work anyone who wants to go will get a ticket anyway.

New LP
25-07-2017, 07:44 PM
The friendly is for the players to test them against a standard of oppo we wouldn't find in this country.



Club were probably long to make people wait for so long, but I don't see why some fans seem so entitled.

Seems like with a bit of work anyone who wants to go will get a ticket anyway.


Plenty of teams a lot better than Metz in this country.

I understand people being disappointed if it was announced that ticket details would be announced, people book travel, hotels etc and it then becomes clear that Palace fans won't be sold tickets. Of course it's easy for you to sit at your keyboard and use condescending language like 'entitled' to describe them. It's also funny how plenty of English teams seem to have friendlies all over Europe and have been able to go.

Yoda
25-07-2017, 08:02 PM
The friendly is for the players to test them against a standard of oppo we wouldn't find in this country.

Club were probably long to make people wait for so long, but I don't see why some fans seem so entitled.
Seems like with a bit of work anyone who wants to go will get a ticket anyway.

I disagree with everything you've said.

1) I don't believe they 'wouldn't find in this country' a team of the standard they wanted. Perhaps you could clarify what's so unique about Metz?

2) If Palace chooses to announce a match on their website, ofcourse they're inviting interest from fans.

3) It's only recently that a limited number of tickets became available, and fans weren't anticipating a high loyalty points limit. Others have been helped by advice given on this thread.

The fans trying to travel to this match strike me as very devoted and they should be assisted with useful, timely information....not sneered at and called 'entitled'.

It's no surprise that some want to travel there so, if the club didn't want them to, they should have clarified that in the first announcement.

Tomo
25-07-2017, 08:18 PM
I'm not denying the club hasn't handled it well.

However my point stands. Preseason friendlies aren't for the fans. They're for the players to get fitness.

FDB would probably rather his team faced some quality oppo from abroad, and maybe get the team away for a couple more days before the season starts, rather than play some team of Championship cloggers.

Scrumpy
25-07-2017, 08:32 PM
Hasn't SB been trying to arrange a friendly with Bordeaux for a few seasons? Maybe it fell through for whatever reason and this Metz game was the back up?