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SilentAssassin
12-07-2017, 02:09 PM
Duplicate thread.

SilentAssassin
12-07-2017, 02:10 PM
Does this qualify as a rumour? The Telegraph seem to think Barkley is top of our list and rate us 7/10 as a 'likely destination'. Make of it what you will...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/12/ross-barkley-leave-everton-seven-destinations-seven-replacements/frank-de-boer/

9Freedman9
12-07-2017, 02:10 PM
Would have much bigger suitors than us I would assume.

RisZero
12-07-2017, 02:11 PM
I suspect one reporter at the telegraph may be on drugs

PauLo
12-07-2017, 02:15 PM
Never heard of him.

Malarkey
12-07-2017, 02:18 PM
I was going to suggest it as one of the worst suggestions of all time

stevek
12-07-2017, 02:19 PM
How can there be a 7/10 chance of him joining us and 8/10 chance of him joining West Ham (etc etc) - the overall can't add up to more than 10/10!

Lombardo's hair
12-07-2017, 02:19 PM
Wouldn't want him very over rated imo

Zohar's Penalty
12-07-2017, 02:20 PM
Wouldn't want him very over rated imo

I'm glad somebody said it. I agree.

CP-RJW
12-07-2017, 02:20 PM
Wouldn't want him very over rated imo
Yeah overrated when people compare him to young Rooney perhaps, but wow! You don't think he'd improve us, in attacking mid, an area we are seriously lacking in?

RisZero
12-07-2017, 02:24 PM
Yeah overrated when people compare him to young Rooney perhaps, but wow! You don't think he'd improve us, in attacking mid, an area we are seriously lacking in?

I think he would improve us but the cost it would take would be immense and id fancy spending that elsewhere. Its irrelevant anyway as there is not a universe where we are his destination.

jimmy the gent
12-07-2017, 02:24 PM
Massive improvemt on what we currently have in that position. Was superb at selhurst last season. Think he's class myself.

CP-RJW
12-07-2017, 02:28 PM
I think he would improve us but the cost it would take would be immense and id fancy spending that elsewhere. Its irrelevant anyway as there is not a universe where we are his destination.
Yeah he'd be overpriced like all English players, but I can't believe anyone would flat out not want him here, even for a reasonable price (which obviously won't happen.)

PauLo
12-07-2017, 02:28 PM
Over rated? Hahahahahahahahaha. Oh my. I've heard it all now.

eaglejez
12-07-2017, 02:33 PM
not good enough for us









































...................joking

RisZero
12-07-2017, 02:34 PM
Going by Evertons window so far I wouldnt be surprised if a buyer was already lined up to add to the Lukaku funds

mb23
12-07-2017, 02:36 PM
If there's a chance of getting him then we've got to take it.

If.

No chance of it happening.

cpfcfan1
12-07-2017, 02:36 PM
Massive upgrade on what we have

Wycombe Eagle#2
12-07-2017, 02:37 PM
Yeah overrated when people compare him to young Rooney perhaps, but wow! You don't think he'd improve us, in attacking mid, an area we are seriously lacking in?

:D brilliant isn't it. I don't for one second think we'd get him. In fact I nearly posted the suggestion the other day as he'd be perfect for us and what we're lacking, but thought I wouldn't embarrass myself with such a thought.

To think he wouldn't improve us is hilarious.

Kai
12-07-2017, 02:38 PM
Why would he want to join us?

Son of Coveta
12-07-2017, 02:45 PM
I don't know what's more laughable the article stating we have a chance of him coming here or people thinking he is not good enough for us.

CP-RJW
12-07-2017, 02:45 PM
Why would he want to join us?
Man City, Man U and Chelsea can do better, the same probably applies for Arsenal although to a lesser extent. Don't see why Spurs would need him when they have Ali and Eriksen. He wouldn't move to Liverpool for obvious reasons. Soooo that leaves us, West Ham, Saints etc. That said I doubt he'd want to leave Everton but if Koeman doesn't want him what choice does he have?

ForzaPalace
12-07-2017, 02:47 PM
Related to Gnarls?

aj4england
12-07-2017, 02:49 PM
No thanks can't afford although some will speculate as part of Benteke deal

Lombardo's hair
12-07-2017, 02:51 PM
Yeah overrated when people compare him to young Rooney perhaps, but wow! You don't think he'd improve us, in attacking mid, an area we are seriously lacking in?

Simply No. Young version of Puncheon as he is now. Even everton fans wouldn't be disappointed to see him go

AddiscombeEagle
12-07-2017, 02:53 PM
Do the people who don't think he would improve us actually watch the games when we have played Everton?

Sadly, the bloke is to good for us and there is no chance of it happening.

CP-RJW
12-07-2017, 02:55 PM
Simply No. Young version of Puncheon as he is now. Even everton fans wouldn't be disappointed to see him go
Because they've just brought in Klassen and Sandro, and are after Siggurdsson.

exiledeagle
12-07-2017, 02:55 PM
Why would he want to join us?

indeed

Lombardo's hair
12-07-2017, 02:57 PM
Massive upgrade on what we have

In what way? He is not consistent. But I suppose anyone that plays for England or is bigged up by pundits has got to be great. I have offered my opinion you don't have to agree. I would rather someone else. If he's that good everton would do a lot more to keep him. If he ends up at City or Chelsea his career is practically over.

GB2506
12-07-2017, 02:58 PM
Thought Spurs wanted him?

Wandle_Eagle
12-07-2017, 02:59 PM
Simply No. Young version of Puncheon as he is now. Even everton fans wouldn't be disappointed to see him go

The assumption that Everton fans wouldn't be disappointed to see him go has no bearing on whether he's good enough for us. He is good enough for us and a massive upgrade on Punch who hasn't been at the races for a long time now unfortunately, good captain mind.

Stinger1
12-07-2017, 02:59 PM
Absolute BS. He's 10/11 to join Spurs and we aren't even quoted a price on Skybet.

Lombardo's hair
12-07-2017, 03:01 PM
Do the people who don't think he would improve us actually watch the games when we have played Everton?

Sadly, the bloke is to good for us and there is no chance of it happening.

I remember kebe destroying us and many others we've bought who have excelled against us and have been sh*te. That is not the basis for buying a player. It's how they perform agains top teams. Not moderate ones like us especially when we are playing poorly.

CP-RJW
12-07-2017, 03:01 PM
I remember kebe destroying usand many others we've bought who have exceed against us and have been sh*te. That is not the basis for buting a player. It's how they perform agains top teams. zNot moderate ones like us especially when we are playing poorly
Do you think he'd be an upgrade on Puncheon?

mexicaneagle
12-07-2017, 03:02 PM
Thought Spurs wanted him?

With Ali, Eriksonn, Dier, Wanyama, Lamela and Dembele all much worse than him, they would be mad not to.

Worksop Palace
12-07-2017, 03:02 PM
Good grief where do people get these sort of ridiculous rumours from ? And why do people fall for this shit ?

Martin H
12-07-2017, 03:05 PM
Barkley has been one of those players that has all the attributes physically and technique wise to be a top class player but has never quite put it all together somehow. He seems to have got a lot of stick up at Everton from just about everyone and yet when I see him in matches he is putting in the effort, makes the midfield tick but is just missing something. With Lukaku in front of him and a solid midfield behind him you think he would have the perfect platform but somehow it remains on the edge.

Is Koeman's disenchantment more to do with the new contract that his ability or am I missing something. He hasn't scored as many as you might expected from him last season. He is still only 23 and wherever he goes, if he is with a good coach he has to have a chance of blossoming. Would be a major shock if he came to us thought wouldn't it?

T.C.
12-07-2017, 03:06 PM
Wouldn't want him very over rated imo

Agree

Gyro1780
12-07-2017, 03:13 PM
Very good player but can't see him coming to us. Off to Spurs ? Too expensive ?

Thefunkymonk
12-07-2017, 03:15 PM
Haha.. not gonna happen.. not even a rumour

st albans
12-07-2017, 03:15 PM
absolutely zero chance

Lombardo's hair
12-07-2017, 03:19 PM
Do you think he'd be an upgrade on Puncheon?

No because they both hold the ball too long run into trouble and pirouette a lot. May be quicker that's all. I'd rather we spent money on someone with a bit of guile. I would have like Huddlestone but he's past his prime now

wedgetail
12-07-2017, 03:23 PM
I like these comedy threads.

Nostrils
12-07-2017, 03:26 PM
Strange one really. Rumoured with Spurs, but they seem to be ok there and all of the other clubs at the same level (Everton) or above probably wouldn't want him. Then there's Stoke, Southampton, WBA, us etc that he would feel was a step down and there's his wages to consider that might put some off. I can't see it with us, but not with many others either.

I'd rather sign that young Munir fella from Barcelona for probably less and lower wage.

Pete79
12-07-2017, 03:26 PM
A 23 year old attacking midfielder who scores and assists in Premier league games. I'd rather we bought him than Sakho (I thought Sakho was great but you can get good CBs for far less than a good attacking midfielder).

SilentAssassin
12-07-2017, 03:27 PM
Haha.. not gonna happen.. not even a rumour

What qualifies as a rumour these days?

RisZero
12-07-2017, 03:29 PM
To clarify, I dont think we have actually been linked, the telegraph have basically just said "palace would be nice for him, sure why not, 70% chance", along with a handful of other clubs and make believe likelyhoods. Would probably be better off with the discussion prefix honestly.

Gyro1780
12-07-2017, 03:30 PM
"Everton have indicated that if they sell Barkley they will command a fee in the region of £50million"

Expect us to make a bid this week then... :D


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4686898/Ross-Barkley-misses-Everton-s-pre-season-trip-Tanzania.html

AddiscombeEagle
12-07-2017, 03:30 PM
I remember kebe destroying us and many others we've bought who have excelled against us and have been sh*te. That is not the basis for buying a player. It's how they perform agains top teams. Not moderate ones like us especially when we are playing poorly.

There is a difference between seeing a player play well and seeing a player you can tell has class.

PauLo
12-07-2017, 03:30 PM
Related to Gnarls?

I think you're crazy.

GreatGonzo
12-07-2017, 03:36 PM
"Everton have indicated that if they sell Barkley they will command a fee in the region of £50million"

Expect us to make a bid this week then... :D


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4686898/Ross-Barkley-misses-Everton-s-pre-season-trip-Tanzania.html

Conversely Everton know if they do not sell for what they can get this summer he is free to move next year and sign a pre-contract in January with a foreign club.

Jim Cannon
12-07-2017, 03:38 PM
I suspect one reporter at the telegraph may be on drugs

This

Palaceguard
12-07-2017, 04:22 PM
I suspect one reporter at the telegraph may be on drugs

Or does he just not know his Barkley from his Bartley :jerkit:
http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=271148

brooklynlou
12-07-2017, 04:24 PM
I suspect one reporter at the telegraph may be on drugs

Can reporters even afford drugs nowadays? They get paid sh!t ...
Maybe he guzzled down some really strong cough syrup.

cpfcfan1
12-07-2017, 04:26 PM
50 million for Ross Barkley lol

JDawg
12-07-2017, 04:47 PM
"Everton have indicated that if they sell Barkley they will command a fee in the region of £50million"



Expect us to make a bid this week then... :D





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4686898/Ross-Barkley-misses-Everton-s-pre-season-trip-Tanzania.html


For a supposedly injured player who has a year left and hasn't signed a new contract?

Dream on.

SE5eagle
12-07-2017, 04:52 PM
50 million for Ross Barkley lol


:D

Pure lunacy.

JDawg
12-07-2017, 04:53 PM
I think Newcastle

burgess hill 84
12-07-2017, 05:00 PM
Someone (an Evertonian) i know told me we have been offered him last Tuesday and I laughed by head off and said I've got more chance signing for Palace than we have of getting him. I can't see it in a million years but I'd take him a heart beat.

mushroom
12-07-2017, 05:02 PM
Prefer Punch

4 cryingOutloud
12-07-2017, 05:05 PM
He's only 23, with 150 premiership games under his belt, plus England appearances at every level. What's not to like other than his price tag?

4 cryingOutloud
12-07-2017, 05:06 PM
Prefer Punch

Project your chin forward then. :D

Pete79
12-07-2017, 05:06 PM
Prefer Punch

Me too, but not to start as our attacking midfielder.

bigend1
12-07-2017, 05:24 PM
I don't think we'll spend that on him but we did sign cabaye, benteke and sakho wanted to join us. In terms of resale value you won't get much more nailed on so a budget stretch wouldn't be impossible.

Doubt it but it's not the crazy rumour it once would have been

Martin H
12-07-2017, 05:47 PM
For a supposedly injured player who has a year left and hasn't signed a new contract?

Dream on.

He has a year left on his contract which is why they are pushing him out because that will drop to nothing in 12 months and he can arrange a move in the New Year. So typically it is the time when clubs come in to try to squeeze them on price but 12 months out it would never be cheap.

£50m is crazy though but what's new. We aren't that stupid. If he was up for £15m maybe a bit more but I think they would want the £0m they paid for Bolasie back at least. gulp.

Timbo
12-07-2017, 05:59 PM
For a supposedly injured player who has a year left and hasn't signed a new contract?

Dream on.

Not worth 50m even without those factors

muswell eagle
12-07-2017, 06:44 PM
If we were after Barkley, why would we take Loftus-Cheek on loan?

JAS78
12-07-2017, 07:13 PM
50 million for Ross Barkley lol



Looked like he was heading to be a special player 2/3 years ago but has tailed off completely. Far too inconsistent to be worth anything like that and disappears in too many games

Also nowhere near the current England first team which is very telling given our lack of quality.

Still time obviously but needs to get his head right.

jimmy the gent
12-07-2017, 07:31 PM
Prefer Punch

Lol

Happy Arthur
12-07-2017, 07:59 PM
You do wonder if these young players have the desire. I guess you have to accept not everyone wants to give it their all, football or otherwise.

Btw not saying Barkley is like that.

Ralph
12-07-2017, 08:04 PM
You do wonder if these young players have the desire. I guess you have to accept not everyone wants to give it their all, football or otherwise.

What makes you say that about Barkley?

Even trying to commit your teenage years to being a professional footballer requires phenomenal drive and dedication. He's 23 and represented his country as well as over 150 games for a Premier League club.

I'm sure he's got his faults but people always seem so keen to knock a young lad simply for not being even better than they already are.

Ralph
12-07-2017, 08:05 PM
You do wonder if these young players have the desire. I guess you have to accept not everyone wants to give it their all, football or otherwise.

Btw not saying Barkley is like that.

Ha. Just as I was quoting you you've updated your post. Fair enough.

cpfcfan1
12-07-2017, 08:08 PM
Everton are planning on putting in a 30 million bid

brooklynlou
12-07-2017, 08:10 PM
Everton are planning on putting in a 30 million bid

For who? Their own player?

JAS78
12-07-2017, 08:13 PM
For who? Their own player?

British humour ;)

Vince Hilaire's Afro
12-07-2017, 08:18 PM
For who? Their own player?

It makes sense for them to buy their own player for £30m if they're selling him for £50m

Kidofwonder
12-07-2017, 08:48 PM
Never going to be the player he is hyped to be, but he'd be up there compared to the rest of our squad, but what you'd have to pay to sign him wouldnt justify what he'd add

FourtyTwo
12-07-2017, 08:51 PM
Random thought, and not one I really like, but if the Everton interest in Benteke is true, could a deal involve Barkley?

Would much, much rather keep Benteke, but could be on the table?

Kosowski
12-07-2017, 09:00 PM
We'd be retarded to pay even £35 million.

There's no footballing value for money there. Just another overrated English player.

hatter8142
12-07-2017, 09:21 PM
Great Player No idea what I would value him at tho with today's stupid prices.

Tomo
12-07-2017, 09:33 PM
He has all the attributes.
Done it against the big teams.

His big weakness though is hanging on to the ball too long, or trying to make the pass clever.

Maybe a change of scenery and coaching will do him good.

I'd love him at Palace but it's not happening

Groinstrain
12-07-2017, 09:39 PM
He has all the attributes.
Done it against the big teams.

His big weakness though is hanging on to the ball too long, or trying to make the pass clever.

Maybe a change of scenery and coaching will do him good.

I'd love him at Palace but it's not happening

Yep, it's his decision making; he has bags of skill and ability. As we've seen with Wilf, perseverance can yield improvements. Barkley has huge potential...

Shipp Ahoy!
12-07-2017, 09:45 PM
Why on earth would he desire a move from Everton who are building a team challenging top 6 or so and already have some form of European football for us???

I think he is very much overrated, but that stems from being talented and English. He is a quality player on his day, but the media obsession with English talent meant he was expected to be the next Ronaldo/Messi hybrid… whereas he is likely to be more of a poor mans Kroos or Tim Cahill - highly talented and well worth a place in the national team but by no means a legend of world football setting records for the next thousand years.

Dave Hedgehog
12-07-2017, 09:50 PM
The logical answer is that he will go to Spurs for less than the quoted fee at the end of the transfer window, once Walker has gone to City and they have shifted Sissoko's wages off the books.

Spurs like to do their business late in the window.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/tottenham-hotspur-spurs-transfer-news-manchester-united-city-arsenal-liverpool-different-a7837786.html

Eagle's Nest
12-07-2017, 09:52 PM
Why on earth would he desire a move from Everton who are building a team challenging top 6 or so and already have some form of European football for us???

I think he is very much overrated, but that stems from being talented and English. He is a quality player on his day, but the media obsession with English talent meant he was expected to be the next Ronaldo/Messi hybrid… whereas he is likely to be more of a poor mans Kroos or Tim Cahill - highly talented and well worth a place in the national team but by no means a legend of world football setting records for the next thousand years.

Because he won't get in Everton's team.

Shipp Ahoy!
12-07-2017, 09:52 PM
The logical answer is that he will go to Spurs for less than the quoted fee at the end of the transfer window, once Walker has gone to City and they have shifted Sissoko's wages off the books.

Spurs like to do their business late in the window.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/tottenham-hotspur-spurs-transfer-news-manchester-united-city-arsenal-liverpool-different-a7837786.html

Shit.

Sissoko will no doubt end up here! After all PHIL BARBER told us we nearly signed him last window :jerkit:

Shipp Ahoy!
12-07-2017, 09:53 PM
Because he won't get in Everton's team.

But he will…

He's one of their own and they seem to think like Sky that he's some kind of demi god.

Bryan
12-07-2017, 09:54 PM
Everton don't want him?

CP-RJW
12-07-2017, 09:57 PM
Everton don't want him?
They bought two attacking midfielders in Klassen and Sandro, and are after Siggurdsson. If they get Sig then Barkley will definitely be on his way out. Edit- And Rooney

Shipp Ahoy!
12-07-2017, 09:59 PM
Everton don't want him?

They do.

He just won't sign a new contact.

Eagle's Nest
12-07-2017, 09:59 PM
But he will…

He's one of their own and they seem to think like Sky that he's some kind of demi god.

The manager doesn't like him and he isn't good enough. Plus the prodigal son has returned. Their fans won't care if he leaves.

rbarmy
12-07-2017, 10:04 PM
Bring him here - one of my favourite players on his day

cooperman
12-07-2017, 10:07 PM
If we were after Barkley, why would we take Loftus-Cheek on loan?


Is (imo) the right answer....

New LP
12-07-2017, 10:49 PM
No way on earth we'd get close to signing him.

KYLIE MINEAGLE
12-07-2017, 10:49 PM
Five pages on this thread and no one has mentioned him going to the south coast power house . Obvious move for him . Pies alone should get him over the line .

Flappy Chicken
12-07-2017, 10:53 PM
Man City...................................

Martin H
12-07-2017, 11:00 PM
I was just thinking about what might happen with him. It's pretty clear that his position there is untenable unless he caves and signs a deal. At a fee of anything like £50m he can only go to a handful of UK clubs and would any of those risk that much cash on him when he has not fully delivered on that promise. I doubt it. So where does he go? Abroad isn't much of an option and only China could afford him.

So I was trying to think how a loan might work. The problem is a premier loan has to be for 12 months and then his contract is done and so it makes no sense to Everton either. I was just wondering if that made it attractive enough for the clubs in the next tier to in effect spread that cost over the 2 years by paying a big loan and option fee now and the rest next summer. That gives the option of sending him back if the club is relegated.

Just not sure who would do that. Bit of a stretch for Bournemouth but it sounds like something their manager would do. Leicester? Newcastle maybe? Southampton are too tight for this I think although he would have resell value. West Ham are all at sea so not them. Just don't think we would - FDB gives us access to a lot of European talent at cheaper prices. Interesting.

brooklynlou
12-07-2017, 11:43 PM
The time for caving in and signing a deal are over. He didn't sign what they gave him and now they've replaceded him. The question is where does he go.

Celestial Empire
13-07-2017, 08:44 AM
The time for caving in and signing a deal are over. He didn't sign what they gave him and now they've replaceded him. The question is where does he go.

I think he didn't get on with Koeman (like a lot of players). He is massively hyped, and Everton will fancy picking up a huge fee for him.
The only problem is where to find a club willing to splash out £50M on Barkley. Apparently, some see Palace 2017 as 'patsies with American money'.:rolleyes:

the elusive k
13-07-2017, 10:10 AM
He seems a bit of an enigma to me. Clearly he has talent but is also very inconsistent and I have reservations over his attitude, not helped by his current mess with Everton. That said he is still young, a year younger than Wilf and Wilf only really became super-consistent as he turned 24 last season so it may be around now that Barkley also finds some sort of consistency as he turns 24. Wilf has shown season on season improvement since breaking into the team, can the same really be said of Barkley? He seems to stall regularly and then find form in short bursts and while his size and strength has obviously improved I'm not sure that he has changed much as a player from the scrawny boy of 5 years ago, although I admit I haven't exactly been keeping too close an eye on the player. By now with the experience and ability he has he should be running games and dictating play.
£50m seems rather steep for the player I perceive him to be, I feel it would still be a case of buying potential but, that said again, he will probably get you 8+ goals and 10+ assists from midfield each season so if that equates to a £50m player then who am I to argue. If he came in and really made strides, becoming a 15+ goal a season midfielder then it would be value for money (in this crazy football world) and everyone would benefit, the player, Palace and England. I don't think becoming that player is out of his reach but it just comes down to his attitude and application to want it.

Bones14
13-07-2017, 10:58 AM
Is that the price is it 50mill?

The worlds gone completely bonkers if he's worth that. He's a very good player on his day, but for that price, he'd wanna be a wonderful player every day.

Which he's not.

Eaglesmad123
13-07-2017, 11:02 AM
Shit.

Sissoko will no doubt end up here! After all PHIL BARBER told us we nearly signed him last window :jerkit:

To be fair Phil Barber says a lot of things.

OriginalNutter
13-07-2017, 11:17 AM
Why would he want to join us?

Because we are by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen?

FourtyTwo
13-07-2017, 11:47 AM
Why would he want to join us?

I don't think he would, and nor do I think we're seriously interested (not at £50m anyway), but to play devil's advocate...

It's a World Cup year, and if it's clear he isn't in Koeman's plans, if he wants a chance of being in the squad then he needs to be playing. If there is only one offer on the table, then it will seem attractive!

Also, London > Liverpool ;)

RisZero
13-07-2017, 11:51 AM
One way or another seems he has burnt bridges at Everton so I guess he has to go somewhere if they are serious about bringing in someone like Gylfi.

Possible the demands drop late in the window if nothing has happened, but again I think it will be one of the bigger clubs that comes in and capitalizes on that should it happen

Martin H
13-07-2017, 11:53 AM
TBH if we had the money to buy Barkley I would buy Gylfi :)

the elusive k
13-07-2017, 01:59 PM
TBH if we had the money to buy Barkley I would buy Gylfi :)

I agree. Sigurdsson is quality.

4 cryingOutloud
13-07-2017, 02:58 PM
Everton offered £40m for Gylfi Sigurdsson, and were turned down. but are looking at £50m for Ross Barkley! Personally, I like barkley but at best, his inflated value is about half of what they're asking, while Sigurdsson's value should be around the £50m mark by todays inflated standards.

Seems to me that Everton want to buy Gylfi Sigurdsson with Ross Barkley's fee, which simply will not happen.

Thefunkymonk
13-07-2017, 03:22 PM
How has this even got to 6 pages. Not happening.

brooklynlou
13-07-2017, 03:34 PM
How has this even got to 6 pages. Not happening.

We're bored and I think they locked the Nugent thread ...

4 cryingOutloud
13-07-2017, 03:41 PM
We're bored and I think they locked the Nugent thread ...

Who's Nugent? :eek::D

Martin H
13-07-2017, 04:59 PM
How has this even got to 6 pages. Not happening.

I hadn't realised quite how well he had been doing at Leeds. He looked good at Swansea early on but lost his way somewhere. - oops wrong thread.

Excowboy
13-07-2017, 05:14 PM
Clearly a very good player but not worth whatever Everton want for him. The fact other teams know that and have cheaper or better options probably means we'd be in with a shout if we were willing to pay that preposterous amount. Which we probably won't.

regal_eagle
26-07-2017, 03:17 PM
Koeman is ushering him out (Or should I say he's looking for a 'new challenge')
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/everton-transfer-news-ross-barkley-leave-future-arsenal-tottenham-spurs-latest-a7861306.html

Obviously Spuds'n'Arse are interested, but with Newcastle bidding http://soccer-rumours.com/?story=10&buying=13&selling=8&player=1 and other clubs outside the top6 taking a look, wouldn't it be wise for FdB to give old Ron.K a bell?

Jim Cannon
26-07-2017, 03:18 PM
He is not going to come here

RisZero
26-07-2017, 03:20 PM
Koeman is ushering him out
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/everton-transfer-news-ross-barkley-leave-future-arsenal-tottenham-spurs-latest-a7861306.html

Obviously Spuds'n'Arse are interested, but with Newcastle bidding http://soccer-rumours.com/?story=10&buying=13&selling=8&player=1 and other clubs outside the top6 taking a look, wouldn't it be wise for FdB to give old Ron.K a bell?

Do we know that they are mates or is this just another one of those "they are the same nationality so they must be mates" things?

Martin H
26-07-2017, 03:22 PM
Koeman is ushering him out (Or should I say he's looking for a 'new challenge')
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/everton-transfer-news-ross-barkley-leave-future-arsenal-tottenham-spurs-latest-a7861306.html

Obviously Spuds'n'Arse are interested, but with Newcastle bidding http://soccer-rumours.com/?story=10&buying=13&selling=8&player=1 and other clubs outside the top6 taking a look, wouldn't it be wise for FdB to give old Ron.K a bell?

Isn't he rumoured to be looking for massive wages? I mean massive compared to the 'massive' that is now normal. If that makes any sense.

regal_eagle
26-07-2017, 03:28 PM
Do we know that they are mates or is this just another one of those "they are the same nationality so they must be mates" things?

Didn't FdB say he had or at least planned to talk to his previous colleagues who are now managing in the Prem?

regal_eagle
26-07-2017, 03:31 PM
Isn't he rumoured to be looking for massive wages? I mean massive compared to the 'massive' that is now normal. If that makes any sense.

I'm not sure about that, but the Toffs will never get £50mil for him when he's on his last year of contract. Quite a few of their fans would rather see him go as he's such a frustrating player, talented but certainly has his negatives that he'd have to iron out, which many think he'll never manage to do.

Mind you, a lot of clubs would say Wilf and Yannick were frustrating, but we still love them.

RisZero
26-07-2017, 03:34 PM
Id take him, I just dont think we could get anywhere near close enough on fee or wages, and the second either of those two things come down there will be much bigger clubs back in for him.

regal_eagle
26-07-2017, 03:35 PM
He is not going to come here

50% of the time, you're right every time :supergrin:

I'd suggest this time you're 100% correct, but we could certainly do with that 'in the hole' player in the team. He probably sees himself as more of an Arsenal (or top-6) type player though.

CommercialStone
26-07-2017, 03:36 PM
Someone will get him on loan. Probably Newcastle

Stavros 69
26-07-2017, 03:37 PM
He's a silly boy, could have been part of something special at Everton this year.
Will go and sit on the bench somewhere.

Yogya
26-07-2017, 03:40 PM
Someone will get him on loan. Probably Newcastle

What is the point of Everton sending him on loan if he can leave on a free at end of season?

RisZero
26-07-2017, 03:41 PM
What is the point of Everton sending him on loan if he can leave on a free at end of season?

Pretty much, if Everton have any say he will be gone this window.

GlaziertoEagle
26-07-2017, 04:11 PM
Pretty much, if Everton have any say he will be gone this window.

From Koeman's comments, it looks like the are actively trying to find him a new club or at least encourage interested parties.

BillyTKid
26-07-2017, 04:13 PM
If I was Barkley I would see out the last year of the contract. It's being widely quoted that Everton want up to £50m for him. If he were out of contract surely he could ask a club for a £30-40m signing on fee while making the point that he is still cheap relative to what Everton wanted. Given the wages he would get on top he would instantly become one of the richest footballers in the world. Koeman says he will be sold but he won't be if Barkley refuses. They might threaten to not play him but I can't imagine they will just pay his wages and waste that asset for a year.

dufski13
26-07-2017, 04:20 PM
People really rate him that much? I think he is a typical case of a young English player being massively over hyped.

RisZero
26-07-2017, 04:25 PM
People really rate him that much? I think he is a typical case of a young English player being massively over hyped.

He is decent. No Messi of course but certainly not crap.

st albans
26-07-2017, 04:25 PM
If I was Barkley I would see out the last year of the contract. It's being widely quoted that Everton want up to £50m for him. If he were out of contract surely he could ask a club for a £30-40m signing on fee while making the point that he is still cheap relative to what Everton wanted. Given the wages he would get on top he would instantly become one of the richest footballers in the world. Koeman says he will be sold but he won't be if Barkley refuses. They might threaten to not play him but I can't imagine they will just pay his wages and waste that asset for a year.

They won't get £50m for him, not with a year left. Alps, no one is going to pay him that sort of money for a signing on fee. They may as well just buy him now

Palace121
26-07-2017, 04:28 PM
People really rate him that much? I think he is a typical case of a young English player being massively over hyped.

I rate him highly. BUT...he's a confidence player. Something Koeman hasn't helped him with in the slightest.

Genuinely believe he could go on to be world class. Gazza-esque.

Celestial Empire
26-07-2017, 05:04 PM
He's a silly boy, could have been part of something special at Everton this year.
Will go and sit on the bench somewhere.

Why, because they're splashing the Lukaku loot ?
How will they do without Lukaku ?
Is Koeman really a top-rank manager ?
They might not do anything next season.

brooklynlou
26-07-2017, 05:06 PM
Did he piss off someone at the club?
It's not like Everton to try to run a player out.

RisZero
26-07-2017, 05:13 PM
Did he piss off someone at the club?
It's not like Everton to try to run a player out.

Refused/stalled re-signing to the point where Koeman had to give an ultimatum, which passed with no progress and so effectively the club have moved on from him

BillyTKid
26-07-2017, 05:14 PM
They won't get £50m for him, not with a year left. Alps, no one is going to pay him that sort of money for a signing on fee. They may as well just buy him now

Well even if it was £20m signing on fee it would still be enormous. Clubs would happily pay that if there was no transfer fee. That probably equates to three extra years of wages.

Joooe
26-07-2017, 05:24 PM
I actually think he's underappreciated. Take the Euros last year, he either started or played a part in most of the games across the previous year, yet he doesn't get a single minute in the finals. And no pundits questioned it.

I hope he goes somewhere where he plays regularly, and manages to catch people's attention again.

Not gonna happen, but I'd love him here.

Jim Cannon
26-07-2017, 05:24 PM
What is the point of Everton sending him on loan if he can leave on a free at end of season?

Won't be a free surely, he is under 24

Norwich_Eagle
26-07-2017, 05:28 PM
A midfield four of Barkley, Loftus-Cheek, Cabaye and Luka wouldn't be the worse thing in the world I suppose...

Stellavista
26-07-2017, 05:29 PM
Why is this even a thread? Anyone who thinks he might come here is as deluded as those twonks on NSC.

eagles #1
26-07-2017, 05:32 PM
Why is this even a thread? Anyone who thinks he might come here is as deluded as those twonks on NSC.


Agreed. He 'wants a new challenge' apparently. I doubt it's a relegation challenge he's after. [emoji16]

JAS78
26-07-2017, 05:47 PM
Why is this even a thread? Anyone who thinks he might come here is as deluded as those twonks on NSC.

More of a Barkley discussion than a real rumour

Off to Tottenham for £30M once Sigurdsson is signed, that's my guess. But if they are expecting a Gazza style impact I think they're gonna be disappointed, hes miles from that level yet.

dufski13
26-07-2017, 05:47 PM
Refused/stalled re-signing to the point where Koeman had to give an ultimatum, which passed with no progress and so effectively the club have moved on from him

And he is another young English player with an overly inflated opinion of himself, who when crunch comes to crunch is not all that.
Personally I think they struggle to get more than about £20 million for him. Which in a world where Siggurddon is £50 million says a lot.
Good on Everton I reckon.

16eagles
26-07-2017, 05:58 PM
More of a Barkley discussion than a real rumour

Off to Tottenham for £30M once Sigurdsson is signed, that's my guess. But if they are expecting a Gazza style impact I think they're gonna be disappointed, hes miles from that level yet.

It's about opinions football. Funny I was saying weekend to friend I see Spurs winning league next year with him being pivotal Gazza esq. But again my opinion! The way they play and only top team not to make major changes ...he will fit perfect for them bringing out his full potential.

Shame cause I ******* hate the spuds.

Also Koeman will be sacked by Christmas IMO

Celestial Empire
26-07-2017, 06:44 PM
He's been the chosen one at Everton for years, and no doubt his agent has been filling his head with all sorts of flattering stuff, then a dour manager turns up, under pressure to lift Everton and with no patience to indulge prima-donas - no wonder he has been coasting and now seems a very confused young bloke.

New LP
26-07-2017, 06:45 PM
Ross Barkley?
Can I smoke what some of you are please?

New LP
26-07-2017, 06:55 PM
Did he piss off someone at the club?
It's not like Everton to try to run a player out.


He's running down his contract. Everton have no choice but to cash in.

dufski13
26-07-2017, 07:03 PM
signs for Stoke on deadline day - £15 million

bubbs11
26-07-2017, 07:11 PM
Barkley and Gazza? No comparison in a million years. Not now - not ever! Light years apart. Gascoigne was without doubt the best English player in my 40 years watching football. Just a different level. No coincidence that England's only 2 semis in 50 years, he was central to both.

Heath eagle
26-07-2017, 07:13 PM
Barkley and Gazza? No comparison in a million years. Not now - not ever! Light years apart. Gascoigne was without doubt the best English player in my 40 years watching football. Just a different level. No coincidence that England's only 2 semis in 50 years, he was central to both.

Spot on

Happy Arthur
26-07-2017, 07:22 PM
It's an interesting one this. Lukaku was in the same situation but there were clubs ready to step in. Barkley on the other hand appears not to have a queue at the door.
As others have said he's better off staying put but it sounds like it may get hostile up there and Koeman wants the kitty.

Golf Boy
26-07-2017, 07:30 PM
Barkley and Gazza? No comparison in a million years. Not now - not ever! Light years apart. Gascoigne was without doubt the best English player in my 40 years watching football. Just a different level. No coincidence that England's only 2 semis in 50 years, he was central to both.

Hoddle was as good.

SEEPEEEFFSEE
26-07-2017, 07:36 PM
Barkley is one of those that you know has the potential to be a class above but he will probably never knuckle down enough to realise it.

CharlieCPFC
26-07-2017, 07:40 PM
Everton want as much as they can to not lose much on Siggurdson's ridiculous fee.

I think he'll end up at Tottenham towards the end of the window. He's a terrific player on his day. He won't be coming here in a million years.

Happy Arthur
26-07-2017, 08:13 PM
If he's in it for the money I'm not sure spurs is the ideal destination.

Georgie Boy
26-07-2017, 08:55 PM
Barkley is one of those that you know has the potential to be a class above but he will probably never knuckle down enough to realise it.

That's the projection for any skilful English football player. Get slightly overweight, get caught drinking, smoking or a big sex scandal.

I hope he works with the right team and turns into a great English Footballer.

New LP
26-07-2017, 09:00 PM
Barkley is one of those that you know has the potential to be a class above but he will probably never knuckle down enough to realise it.


Contradicting my earlier post but probably needs to go to a bigger club where he isn't the local hero, has to play for his place and be coached into the player he can be.

Buysakho
26-07-2017, 09:35 PM
Spurs will be a great fit for him.

CP-RJW
26-07-2017, 10:49 PM
Why, because they're splashing the Lukaku loot ?
How will they do without Lukaku ?
Is Koeman really a top-rank manager ?
They might not do anything next season.
Agreed, "doing something" would mean finishing in the champions league spots, as Europa league would be their minimum aim. Can anyone really see Everton finishing ahead of 3 of the big 6?

bigend1
26-07-2017, 11:34 PM
Doesn't really fit into 343

4231 with him sitting behind benteke with zaha and Townsend either side on the other hand would be rather bloody exciting

Thefunkymonk
26-07-2017, 11:48 PM
Can't believe this is even being discussed. Not gonna happen.

bigend1
27-07-2017, 12:28 AM
Can't believe this is even being discussed. Not gonna happen.

For the most part I agree and don't think for a second he'll come to us. It does seem however he's leaving Everton. Is he Utd, city arse, chealsea? No probably not. Ali at Spurs means he's not likely to start there. The there is Liverpool... if they lose coultino perhaps but not on the same level by a long shot and I doubt they'd do that. That leaves Southampton, stoke, spammers, Bournemouth, us etc.. that sort.

He might have very much cut his nose of to spite his face and now has actually dropped a level. 343 is never a role he'll suit though so unless frank fancies 4231 in which he'd be perfect we won't be in for him

Bones14
27-07-2017, 12:43 AM
Has the POTENTIAL arrrgh. He could be an outstanding talent, but for whatever reason its in fits and starts. Perhaps a new environment might help him, who knows.
There's many a player that just tail off once their talent is fulfilled. Maybe he's one of those that cant be educated and taught, is a one trick pony and has trouble with adapting or just couldn't be arsed working hard enough. All speculation on my behalf but there is obviously a reason as to why he hasn't made the next step.
Time is certainly on his side, but you'd want to see a step up in the next season or two.

Kidofwonder
27-07-2017, 01:05 AM
bull in a china shop. got all the technical ability in the world but cant read a game to save his life

Mad Raschic Ken
27-07-2017, 06:05 AM
Just tweeted by Squawka Football:

Ross Barkley’s chances created in the Premier League since 2013/14:

2013/14: 25
2014/15: 33
2015/16: 55
2016/17: 84

Marked improvement. 📈 https://t.co/L93YsR1cGn

Pub Idol
27-07-2017, 06:23 AM
Hoddle was as good.

Not for England.

1905
27-07-2017, 06:30 AM
Everton want as much as they can to not lose much on Siggurdson's ridiculous fee.

I think he'll end up at Tottenham towards the end of the window. He's a terrific player on his day. He won't be coming here in a million years.

It is a ridiculous fee, but only in the context of other players who have moved for even more ridiculous fees this season. 9 goals and 13 assists in a struggling team last season, yet players who have done less are moving/or being talked about moving for more than that. Too many transfers fees this season have been ridiculous!

jimmy the gent
27-07-2017, 07:39 AM
Sounds like a bit of a tool, on all accounts wants Spurs to make him their highest earner on 150k PW. What on earth has to done to merit that kind of wage? I don't even see him being a regular starter at Spurs. I rate him as a prospect, but really he should be joining sides like West Ham, Bournemouth or us and playing week in week out. That's what his level is right now IMHO. Of course he won't, because it's modern football and he'll probably bench warm for a big club instead, but still.

Worksop Palace
27-07-2017, 07:44 AM
He should actually be getting his head down and working his nuts off for his current employer

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
27-07-2017, 09:06 AM
Has the POTENTIAL arrrgh. He could be an outstanding talent, but for whatever reason its in fits and starts. Perhaps a new environment might help him, who knows.
There's many a player that just tail off once their talent is fulfilled. Maybe he's one of those that cant be educated and taught, is a one trick pony and has trouble with adapting or just couldn't be arsed working hard enough. All speculation on my behalf but there is obviously a reason as to why he hasn't made the next step.
Time is certainly on his side, but you'd want to see a step up in the next season or two.
He did step up last season though. Maybe not to become a world beater, but he was certainly very good.

fozzaisere
27-07-2017, 04:13 PM
His football IQ is atrocious and don't think that can be fixed, great technical talent

Eagleinmk
27-07-2017, 04:31 PM
He should actually be getting his head down and working his nuts off for his current employer

(Unsubstantiated) Rumours that the girl he was flirting with before he got punched in that club back in april was connected to a Liverpool gang and since that episode he's been getting threats.

No idea if there is any truth whatsoever in this but might explain why he's so desperate to leave the club (or rather the city) and it is not the first time footballers in Liverpool have fallen foul of the undesirable element of the city, so the rumour is plausible.

jimmy the gent
27-07-2017, 04:47 PM
The same gang that 'persuaded' Steven Gerrard to withdraw his transfer request?