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Thefunkymonk
13-07-2017, 07:22 AM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/west-brom-crystal-palace-good-chance-signing-defender-preference-advantage/

gold76
13-07-2017, 07:24 AM
We certainly need competition for right back, but doesn't seem to fit with the idea of buying youngsters.

I'm not against the idea of a few older heads mind

mb23
13-07-2017, 07:32 AM
Wouldn't be against this, but it doesn't read well to me that he'd rather stay on holiday for a bit longer rather than tie himself down to a club and get cracking with pre season. Is his heart still in it?

bubbs11
13-07-2017, 07:33 AM
More importantly...what's his hair like at the moment?

Stinger1
13-07-2017, 07:39 AM
This would be a good move. Can play at centre-back too.

Nostrils
13-07-2017, 07:46 AM
We certainly need competition for right back, but doesn't seem to fit with the idea of buying youngsters.

I'm not against the idea of a few older heads mind

I think you definitely need an older figure or two in the team if you're going to play a younger team. Is he going to be the right kind of role model though, or just swan around for his last pay day?

Punch would be ideal for this, but is he going to get so much game time?

I'd say yes to Sagna if he had the right attitude.

dave_who_ru
13-07-2017, 07:50 AM
Backward step given need to reduce overall age of the squad. Let's just sort the problem now rather than having to re-visit again next year.

Thefunkymonk
13-07-2017, 07:52 AM
Backward step given need to reduce overall age of the squad. Let's just sort the problem now rather than having to re-visit again next year.

Maybe its viewed as a stop gap signing... other priorities in the squad.. sign him on a 1 year deal.

I don't think it's a bad signing as long as his legs haven't gone.. he is quality.

Ideally I would want someone with long term in mind but it isn't always possible

chatham_eagle
13-07-2017, 08:24 AM
Only if he changes his first name to Lars.

Malarkey
13-07-2017, 08:27 AM
We certainly need competition for right back, but doesn't seem to fit with the idea of buying youngsters.

I'm not against the idea of a few older heads mind

I don't think we're just going to sign younger players

Nigelbrag
13-07-2017, 08:29 AM
I can't see the logic in this if it were to happen, firstly as the position is not a priority to strengthen, but also we know FdB likes and wants to build a young squad and Sagna is 35, and is Ward that bad that he is going to be replaced by a 35yr old?
Then there is that guy Veltman who de Boer rates highly and can also play at RB and is 10 yrs younger, or there must be a Dutch or Spaniard specialist RB that FdB with his contacts can unearth, as this is not a priority and the window does not close until end of August so plenty of time. So for me Sagna is a big NO.

TheCharmer1
13-07-2017, 08:32 AM
on a free for a year, a decent squad addition. Clearly money is tight....

dave_who_ru
13-07-2017, 08:47 AM
I don't think we're just going to sign younger players

I'm not just saying 20 year olds but he will be 35 in February.

Kelly can cover Ward so not an immediate priority. I know not ideal but I'm confident we can identify a better option in need.

If we complete the signing of Ridewald then I would just be happy with a goalie and a striker. Anything else would be a bonus.

Reg_Maudling
14-07-2017, 10:55 AM
No thank you let's not become Harry rednapp's qpr

SmokeyStover7
01-08-2017, 03:08 PM
We are one of the frontrunners according to L'Equipe and have shortened to 6/4 on skybet, for what that is worth.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/crystal-palace-watford-and-southampton-favourites-to-sign-ex-man-city-fullback-sagna-4192774

Stellavista
01-08-2017, 03:14 PM
34 and on stupid money? Doesn't strike me as a de boer signing, but maybe the options are dwindling?

mushroom
01-08-2017, 03:15 PM
I'd like him as a Right sided Centre Back.

Martin H
01-08-2017, 03:40 PM
has been a great player but at 34 surely not the right one for us now.

Neillo's Son
01-08-2017, 04:00 PM
One of the few defenders that Bolasie couldn't beat I seem to recall. If he's still motivated and has some pace left, he could be decent.

RisZero
01-08-2017, 04:01 PM
Could see this being some kind of backup if theres other targets that couldnt be brought in. If he were the first choice I would have thought it would be done by now.

thereichstuff
01-08-2017, 04:05 PM
On sensible wages and short contract it's a no brainier isn't it ?

cpfcfan1
01-08-2017, 04:07 PM
On sensible wages and short contract it's a no brainier isn't it ?


Definitely for a year.

orp pisshead1
01-08-2017, 04:10 PM
has been a great player but at 34 surely not the right one for us now.

Maybe just a one year deal would suit both parties ? While we look for a younger alternative and he could then go abroad.
In football today 34 isn't that old.

Martin H
01-08-2017, 04:16 PM
Maybe just a one year deal would suit both parties ? While we look for a younger alternative and he could then go abroad.
In football today 34 isn't that old.

TBH if we are playing 343 I would stick with Andros and Ward. If we need a more defensive approach for specific matches we can play Joel and the for normal games play Andros. Joel can play in any 4 at the back games too. If we were buying a younger player or someone that would stay for 3 years or so then fair enough. Just not sure the RWB in a 343 is the right place for the older guy.

if we don't solidify the back 3 - it' wont' matter too much though :(

Hope we get Chambers over the proverbial line in time for Saturday.

thereichstuff
01-08-2017, 04:17 PM
He could cover right wing back and cover 3 at the back , Good experienced pro who has looked after himself . It won't be a gamble as we'll know exactly what we're getting .

Thefunkymonk
01-08-2017, 04:45 PM
On sensible wages and short contract it's a no brainier isn't it ?

Agree. Covers RWB. Stop gap signing but one with bags of ability and experience

regal_eagle
01-08-2017, 04:51 PM
Was it Wilf or Yannick who said he was the best defender they had come up against, albeit a season or so ago...?!

CharlieCPFC
01-08-2017, 05:55 PM
He could cover right wing back and cover 3 at the back , Good experienced pro who has looked after himself . It won't be a gamble as we'll know exactly what we're getting .

This.

Whilst looking to lower the age average of the squad experience is still important and we've lost a big figure in Sakho. The fact he has experience at playing center half under a manager with an ethos in Guardiola's would also be a big plus.

CoDownEagle
01-08-2017, 06:51 PM
Hardly fits with FDBs ethos of younger players.

Arbroath Eagle
01-08-2017, 07:11 PM
Hardly fits with FDBs ethos of younger players.

Still better than Ward though. Would work as a stop gap.

Nth Kent Eagle
01-08-2017, 07:40 PM
This would be an excellent signing for one or possibly two seasons.

JHJ EAGLE
01-08-2017, 08:01 PM
This would be an excellent signing for one or possibly two seasons.

This

Eagle Kneevil
01-08-2017, 08:22 PM
Bacary to the left of me, Bakary to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you...

TheCharmer1
01-08-2017, 08:52 PM
Better than ward at rwb and would release Townsend. Seems worthwhile

Reg_Maudling
01-08-2017, 10:05 PM
Harry Rednapp is not our manager, so hopefully no 34 year old Sagna on big wages

mb23
01-08-2017, 10:11 PM
Hope he's fit. Won't have had a pre season, so don't expect him to be thrust straight in there if he signs. Townsend will start the season as RWB.

SpikeyMatt
01-08-2017, 10:12 PM
Pound for pound, probably the best right back in the Premier League for the last 7/8 seasons.

TWELLSEagle
01-08-2017, 10:27 PM
This would be insane, especially if letting cabaye go due to wages. Wtaf is our transfer policy?

Jacko1
02-08-2017, 09:10 AM
To play RB as part of a back 4, all day long.

To play RWB as part of a 3-4-3 .. not too sure. Was reading the other day Guardiola got rid of him and Zabaleta because they simply don't have the energy for that role anymore. Of course we are a level below City but still a cause for concern.

No doubting his brain/ability however, the man is class.

elgin eagle
02-08-2017, 11:49 AM
He could cover right wing back and cover 3 at the back , Good experienced pro who has looked after himself . It won't be a gamble as we'll know exactly what we're getting .

Probably get 4 seasons out of him.

RisZero
02-08-2017, 06:31 PM
Hold off to see if Chelsea do sign Oxlade-Chamberlain (rumoured with the intention of RWB)

Go in for Moses

:sunglasses:

TWELLSEagle
02-08-2017, 07:06 PM
Hold off to see if Chelsea do sign Oxlade-Chamberlain (rumoured with the intention of RWB)

Go in for Moses

:sunglasses:

I would think Ox is competition for vicmo. Conte rates him and don't think he'll be going anywhere

RisZero
02-08-2017, 07:09 PM
I would think Ox is competition for vicmo. Conte rates him and don't think he'll be going anywhere

Id think for the fee Ox is likely to be Vicmo becomes nothing but cover, which I also think Azpilicueta defaults to anyway given they already brought in another natural CB

orp pisshead1
02-08-2017, 07:14 PM
No way is Oxlade chamberlain better than Moses:supergrin:

4 cryingOutloud
02-08-2017, 07:18 PM
Probably get 4 seasons out of him.

Autum, winter, spring and summer?

RisZero
02-08-2017, 07:24 PM
No way is Oxlade chamberlain better than Moses:supergrin:

Never said better, I said they would play him on virtue of fee

TWELLSEagle
02-08-2017, 07:26 PM
Id think for the fee Ox is likely to be Vicmo becomes nothing but cover, which I also think Azpilicueta defaults to anyway given they already brought in another natural CB

Fee is irrelevant, Chelsea can pay that much for squad players without blinking. Ox will have his work cut out shifting vicmo whose playing very well. Still I'd rather we tried buying vicmo as our No. 10! I always thought that was his natural position.

elgin eagle
02-08-2017, 07:29 PM
Autum, winter, spring and summer?

:lux:

4 cryingOutloud
02-08-2017, 08:51 PM
:lux:

I thank you. :p

adrenalin john
02-08-2017, 10:30 PM
Only if he changes his first name to Lars.

:supergrin:

Well layered

AJ8
03-08-2017, 05:37 AM
:supergrin:

Well layered

Bit too cheesy for me.

Bones14
03-08-2017, 08:45 AM
Bit too cheesy for me.

I repped him because it was so poor. Love a shit one liner.

Calmc
22-08-2017, 12:29 PM
Would be silly to turn down an offer of 50k a week from us? Surely more suited than ward at the moment?

Garfy
22-08-2017, 12:57 PM
Would be silly to turn down an offer of 50k a week from us? Surely more suited than ward at the moment?

Has there been any suggestion that we've offered him anything yet?

Calmc
22-08-2017, 01:07 PM
no just thinking if we was to offer something in that region it would be a reasonable amount for someone of his experience

GorBlimey
30-08-2017, 10:03 PM
Daily Star reckon it's on:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/640716/Transfer-deadline-day-deals-rumours-favourites-news-signings-Premier-League-sportgalleries

Number 4 of the 20 massive deals piece.

RisZero
30-08-2017, 10:04 PM
He is a free agent right? Wouldnt even have to be done by tomorrow?

GreatGonzo
30-08-2017, 10:05 PM
He is a free agent right? Wouldnt even have to be done by tomorrow?

We only get a day to name the 25 and have to name any over 21 we have at that point so depends who we can shift out tomorrow.

Spindle
30-08-2017, 10:14 PM
Daily Star reckon it's on:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/640716/Transfer-deadline-day-deals-rumours-favourites-news-signings-Premier-League-sportgalleries

Number 4 of the 20 massive deals piece.


Wrong thread

GorBlimey
30-08-2017, 10:18 PM
Wrong thread

:confused:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/640716/Transfer-deadline-day-deals-rumours-favourites-news-signings-Premier-League-sportgalleries

See number 4

Jacko1
30-08-2017, 10:28 PM
Heart says yes, head says no.

Do I recall somebody saying he was on holiday for bloody ages? Even if he has been keeping himself reasonably fit this is a long time to be away from it (as in high intensity football training) for 34 year old?

RisZero
30-08-2017, 10:31 PM
We only get a day to name the 25 and have to name any over 21 we have at that point so depends who we can shift out tomorrow.

Cant you just leave a space if you are expecting a free agent?

Martin H
30-08-2017, 10:46 PM
Cant you just leave a space if you are expecting a free agent?

No, not unless every other eligible age player is loaned out.

whereEaglesFly
31-08-2017, 08:41 AM
No, not unless every other eligible age player is loaned out.

What if a player is out injured for months?

elgin eagle
31-08-2017, 08:42 AM
Lethal injection?

TheCharmer1
31-08-2017, 08:43 AM
better than what we have in that position but wages?

Zohar's Penalty
31-08-2017, 08:44 AM
No, not unless every other eligible age player is loaned out.

I'm sure we signed AJ very late and after the deadline? Or did I imagine that?

Big Blue Eagle
31-08-2017, 08:46 AM
What if a player is out injured for months?

Irrelevant, doesn't have to be named but still counts towards the total.

Martin H
31-08-2017, 09:02 AM
What if a player is out injured for months?

Not totally sure although others above think has to be named. I think that's unlikely and suspect independent medical certification probably enough to prove not bailable. But would expect it would have to be an injury that is certain to keep the player out for the whole period, I.e. Like a broken leg. Anything short term or dubious wouldn't do it.

RPM-D
01-09-2017, 09:02 AM
Still a free agent

TheCharmer1
01-09-2017, 09:18 AM
Get him in. If his wages are manageable

Pierre
05-09-2017, 11:30 AM
Looks like we are sniffing around Sagna. Should be looking at a striker though do we need yet more defenders?

spy
05-09-2017, 11:51 AM
Definitely don't need another defender. Now we have so many central defenders Ross-Mensa can surely provide the cover at right-back?

Nigelbrag
05-09-2017, 11:59 AM
When are we going to learn? bring in what is required and Not a player that is not necessary, and in all probability going to cost us 75k p.w and play him where? we already have Mensah, Ward and Kelly for the RB role, this is like a stamp collection exercise.
Chances are we will revert to a Four man defence either with FdB or any new manager we bring in, when we signed Fosu-Mensah it would have needed assurances from Palace to Man Utd that he would be played on a regular basis and most likely at RB, also for me he does not have the pace for a RWB, and too inexperienced as a Central Defender.
If it is a Back Four then for me it is Forsu-Mensah---Dann---Sakho---Schlupp, and stick with it allowing time to develop an understanding.

NateEagle
05-09-2017, 12:03 PM
When are we going to learn? bring in what is required and Not a player that is not necessary, and in all probability going to cost us 75k p.w and play him where? we already have Mensah, Ward and Kelly for the RB role, this is like a stamp collection exercise.
Chances are we will revert to a Four man defence either with FdB or any new manager we bring in, when we signed Fosu-Mensah it would have needed assurances from Palace to Man Utd that he would be played on a regular basis and most likely at RB, also for me he does not have the pace for a RWB, and too inexperienced as a Central Defender.
If it is a Back Four then for me it is Forsu-Mensah---Dann---Sakho---Schlupp, and stick with it allowing time to develop an understanding.

Agree with most of that but 'does not have the pace'!? He is rapid!!

Polak
05-09-2017, 12:04 PM
When are we going to learn? bring in what is required and Not a player that is not necessary, and in all probability going to cost us 75k p.w and play him where?
Fully agree. Completely unnecessary. Need a striker first and foremost.

Zulu84
05-09-2017, 12:12 PM
Fully agree. Completely unnecessary. Need a striker first and foremost.

you speak the truth, praise Jesus, preach on brother.

Zulu84
05-09-2017, 12:15 PM
Agree with most of that but 'does not have the pace'!? He is rapid!!

Yup, bet he's still faster than ward at 34, rolling of the couch after spending 2 months eating KFC. But that doesn't mean we should get him in. Sign. A. Striker. Then. A. Goalie. (sorry I stole your writing style Rambo)

DHeagle
05-09-2017, 01:08 PM
Yup, bet he's still faster than ward at 34, rolling of the couch after spending 2 months eating KFC. But that doesn't mean we should get him in. Sign. A. Striker. Then. A. Goalie. (sorry I stole your writing style Rambo)

Think he's talking about TFM?

Stellavista
05-09-2017, 02:56 PM
If we don't get a striker in to the (possibly?) one remaining place in the squad, the Board have undoubtedly lost it.

DARZET EAGLE
05-09-2017, 03:15 PM
If we don't get a striker in to the (possibly?) one remaining place in the squad, the Board have undoubtedly lost it.

Indeed, Ladapo and Anderson have gone out on loan I believe, clearly they are not up to the Premier League and with Wickhams injury we are scraping the barrel. Sako is still out too (when is he in?) We obviously need striker cover, perhaps Schlupp could be considered.

RisZero
05-09-2017, 03:42 PM
Indeed, Ladapo and Anderson have gone out on loan I believe, clearly they are not up to the Premier League and with Wickhams injury we are scraping the barrel. Sako is still out too (when is he in?) We obviously need striker cover, perhaps Schlupp could be considered.

Ladapo is named in the squad

Chas
05-09-2017, 03:45 PM
Ladapo is named in the squad

So is Jordon Mutch.

AJ
05-09-2017, 03:57 PM
Definitely don't need another defender. Now we have so many central defenders Ross-Mensa can surely provide the cover at right-back?
Doesnt say much about the right backs if the club are looking at Sagna.

Nigelbrag
05-09-2017, 04:13 PM
Agree with most of that but 'does not have the pace'!? He is rapid!!

The pace required for a Wing Back to be really effective. What is a pity Townsend has the pace, and Mensah has the defensive qualities, pity we cant clone them.:) That is why i feel the best compromise is a Back Four it is what Palace are about.

Lombardo's hair
05-09-2017, 04:24 PM
If it's true that FDB was not impressed by our transfer activity I an sure you will sympathise with him and cut him some slack. But I suppose you'll say he should abandon the 343.

Hambo
06-09-2017, 12:27 PM
Friend of a friend saw him in Soho a short while ago...

Upgrade on Ward even at his age but surely a striker has to be the priority?

Jman
06-09-2017, 12:33 PM
The pace required for a Wing Back to be really effective. What is a pity Townsend has the pace, and Mensah has the defensive qualities, pity we cant clone them.:) That is why i feel the best compromise is a Back Four it is what Palace are about.

TFM is rapid, and just played full back for Holland. Do we really need Sagna??

Stellavista
06-09-2017, 12:47 PM
No. We desperately need a striker.

cp eagles
06-09-2017, 01:01 PM
How many defenders do we need ffs

SilentAssassin
06-09-2017, 01:09 PM
TFM and Sakho as a centre back pairing would be quite something. As a 3 with Dann and PVA and Sagna as wing backs, I'm not so sure.

This would have made a bit of sense if we had shipped out one of Kelly, Delaney, Dann or Tomkins.

We're so light up top right now it's ridiculous.

NateEagle
06-09-2017, 01:20 PM
Yup, bet he's still faster than ward at 34, rolling of the couch after spending 2 months eating KFC. But that doesn't mean we should get him in. Sign. A. Striker. Then. A. Goalie. (sorry I stole your writing style Rambo)

I was referring to his comment about mensah

Nigelbrag
06-09-2017, 02:11 PM
TFM is rapid, and just played full back for Holland. Do we really need Sagna??

Totally agree we don't need Sagna. I was questioning TFM having the pace to be a Wing Back, i don't think he quite has, but will make a good CB when he has gained more defensive experience i feel.

cp eagles
06-09-2017, 02:14 PM
According to the Express Arsenal might be resigning him

Zulu84
06-09-2017, 03:35 PM
I was referring to his comment about mensah

Then you are correct, my apologies

Penstone Eagle
06-09-2017, 04:27 PM
How many defenders do we need ffs

10, all standing on the goal line at Burnley.

37 nil nil draws might keep us up.

st albans
06-09-2017, 04:30 PM
10, all standing on the goal line at Burnley.

37 nil nil draws might keep us up.

37 might, but 35 probably won't.....

aj4england
06-09-2017, 07:10 PM
Doesnt say much about the right backs if the club are looking at Sagna.

Tim F M is a very decent right back if only FdB didn't see him as a centre back

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
06-09-2017, 07:22 PM
37 might, but 35 probably won't.....
Good point well made