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Crystal Glitter
15-08-2017, 01:44 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/stoke-city-crystal-palace-given-boost-pursuit-tottenham-player/

CharlieCPFC
15-08-2017, 01:45 PM
Get it done.

Top player.

mushroom
15-08-2017, 01:47 PM
Yes.

Thefunkymonk
15-08-2017, 01:49 PM
Good player. But it involves a fee.

Stavros 69
15-08-2017, 01:51 PM
.....who got da keys to my bimma!!

elgin eagle
15-08-2017, 02:02 PM
A wimmer of hope.

James Calder
15-08-2017, 02:05 PM
Hated him on Friends.

PauLo
15-08-2017, 02:16 PM
I've heard of him! Yes! For that reason alone, sign him.

ForzaPalace
15-08-2017, 02:18 PM
Signs for West Ham page 6

tsunamiman
15-08-2017, 02:18 PM
Song is obvious...

He's Kevin, Kevin, Kevin Wimmer
Without him our defense would be much Grimmer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-CG6gCrPYM

Jokes aside. Top player.

Penstone Eagle
15-08-2017, 02:24 PM
Signs for Burnley page 4

Tim of the 80's
15-08-2017, 02:32 PM
Chicken Dimmer

Terrace Bickle
15-08-2017, 02:39 PM
We're going to do things the Wimmer way.

richdeniro
15-08-2017, 02:42 PM
Probably won't leave til deadline day, if at all, Levy will want to squeeze as much possible for him and is probably holding out for 20 million+ from Southampton when they sell Van Dijk.

bigend1
15-08-2017, 02:42 PM
A wimmer of hope.

:D

Martin H
15-08-2017, 02:44 PM
Looks a good player - have no idea if we have cash or not. I know we have convinced ourselves there is none but this could be a good option. Only seen him play supporting role. Can he dominate as main man in the centre?

Nigel_Scarfer
15-08-2017, 02:48 PM
Is this in advance of our forthcoming Chinese takeover? Our new owners only want to sign players who are proven to be Wimmers?

Kirby
15-08-2017, 02:51 PM
Zim zimma.

richdeniro
15-08-2017, 02:56 PM
Can't see us spending 15M+ on another Centre-Back when surely the priority has to be Goalkeeper, Forward and Right-Back?

jaspercpfc
15-08-2017, 02:56 PM
Zim zimma.

who got the keys to my bimma

Reps AJ
15-08-2017, 03:01 PM
We're going to do things the Wimmer way.

A Wimmer way?
A Wimmer way?

GreatGonzo
15-08-2017, 03:02 PM
More evidence that the BBS is the clubs scouting system, following CharlieCPFC and Skorupski

http://cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=271136&highlight=Wimmer

Skiddo
15-08-2017, 03:15 PM
Everyone loves Wimmer baby, that's the truth!

ForzaPalace
15-08-2017, 03:17 PM
More evidence that the BBS is the clubs scouting system, following CharlieCPFC and Skorupski

http://cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=271136&highlight=Wimmer

Just need Perez and Nani now and we're sorted :lux:

Ralph
15-08-2017, 03:28 PM
Just need Perez and Nani now and we're sorted :lux:

And Dave Nugent.

trufan
15-08-2017, 03:32 PM
Buy him quick, play him at Anfield. Might as well throw him in the deep end.

ChiswickEagle
15-08-2017, 03:48 PM
It's a no from me. Purely because when I say the letter "w" it sounds like an "r".

Bryan
15-08-2017, 03:58 PM
Tottenham mate rates him. Stood in for Alderweireld and did a good job. Dependable but no idea if he is a De Boer type player.

Agree that CB is probably not our priority unless we do have a pretty decent budget this window.

Jim Cannon
15-08-2017, 04:05 PM
Good player. But it involves a fee.

Half a Sakho fee

Mad Raschic Ken
15-08-2017, 04:08 PM
Tottenham mate rates him. Stood in for Alderweireld and did a good job. Dependable but no idea if he is a De Boer type player.

Agree that CB is probably not our priority unless we do have a pretty decent budget this window.

I would say that CB is one of a number of priorities unfortunately - all pretty much as important as each other.

gold76
15-08-2017, 04:09 PM
If true, perhaps TFM will play wing back as I can't see Ward playing there again.

Or then could do left centre back and play Riedwald in midfield

Will put the Sakho deal to bed, but with a keeper and striker to come may be seen as better value

Nigelbrag
15-08-2017, 04:11 PM
Has everybody forgotten/moved on from Chambers? is this guy now flavour of the month.

jimmy the gent
15-08-2017, 04:15 PM
Have we got the budget for this, i worry that the wimmer takes it all

Martin H
15-08-2017, 04:22 PM
Has everybody forgotten/moved on from Chambers? is this guy now flavour of the month.

I thought the Chambers thing had gone away - hence the interest in this one for me. TBH I was thinking Chambers would be RCB not CCB. It is CCB that we need to fill the most I reckon. Unless we are going to buy 2 more CBs - a RCB and a CCB and then play F-M out as RWB. Not sure that is his best slot in a 3 4 3 though. Fine at RB in a 4 or RCB in a 3.

So who knows. I just know we need to be very busy.

PauLo
15-08-2017, 04:24 PM
It's a no from me. Purely because when I say the letter "w" it sounds like an "r".

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Holoship_%28Red_Dwarf%29.jpg

orp pisshead1
15-08-2017, 04:51 PM
Good player. But it involves a fee.

:D

glaziers fan
15-08-2017, 05:00 PM
Good player. But it involves a fee.

:D

AJ8
15-08-2017, 05:10 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Holoship_%28Red_Dwarf%29.jpg

Kevin, Kevin, Kevin Wimmer
He's also a fantastic swimmer etc etc

Terrace Bickle
15-08-2017, 05:10 PM
Rumours Southampton are interested. Can't see him being tempted by our 'revolution' if that's true.

Bipe
15-08-2017, 05:16 PM
Funnily enough I was doing 'top 3 garden related footballers' with my son at the weekend.

We came up with Kevin Strimmer and Romelu Luplantpot - both of which we were delighted with - and Alan Shears, which is lame.

SJ'sLoveMonkey
15-08-2017, 05:17 PM
Rumours Southampton are interested. Can't see him being tempted by our 'revolution' if that's true.

Yep the Real Madrid of the South they are! :hmph:

elgin eagle
15-08-2017, 05:27 PM
Have we got the budget for this, i worry that the wimmer takes it all

Talking to my Italian mate Paulo about him, he said "he's a really fast, wimmer". Doesn't have a clue what he's like at football though. Or about trainers.

gman28
15-08-2017, 06:05 PM
It's a no from me. Purely because when I say the letter "w" it sounds like an "r".
Quality😂

4 cryingOutloud
15-08-2017, 06:15 PM
It's a no from me. Purely because when I say the letter "w" it sounds like an "r".

Are you Chinese?

danpalace07
16-08-2017, 12:04 AM
Imagine Parish and Levy trying to agree on a fee...

would be a good signing

regal_eagle
16-08-2017, 12:36 AM
'vin Wim situation.

bigend1
16-08-2017, 03:21 AM
Kevin, Kevin, Kevin Wimmer
He's also a fantastic swimmer etc etc

Now I want him just for Wimmer world!

mroakley9
16-08-2017, 03:25 AM
Can we call him 'Big Kev'?

MasterYoda
16-08-2017, 05:16 AM
Spurs signing two new CBs so he's certainly not in their plans you'd imagine

Gyro1780
16-08-2017, 08:00 PM
I don't see this deal happening as i have a feeling we're saving money for the Sakho deal. Won't be signing both unless we're selling Dann or Tomkins or Kelly etc.

I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks when the window closes.

Gyro1780
16-08-2017, 08:01 PM
I don't see this deal happening as i have a feeling we're saving money for the Sakho deal. Won't be signing both unless we're selling Dann or Tomkins or Kelly etc.

I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks when the window closes.

elgin eagle
16-08-2017, 08:05 PM
Wonder when we'll find out?

PremierPalace
16-08-2017, 08:08 PM
Wonder when we'll find out?


Couple of weeks probably.. when the window closes

cardiffeagle
16-08-2017, 08:23 PM
The Wimmer Takes It All

Spindle
16-08-2017, 09:41 PM
I heard that he's looking at houses in Wim-bledon

Jim Cannon
16-08-2017, 09:52 PM
Funnily enough I was doing 'top 3 garden related footballers' with my son at the weekend.

We came up with Kevin Strimmer and Romelu Luplantpot - both of which we were delighted with - and Alan Shears, which is lame.

Tim Flowers?

Abjekt
16-08-2017, 09:57 PM
Funnily enough I was doing 'top 3 garden related footballers' with my son at the weekend.

We came up with Kevin Strimmer and Romelu Luplantpot - both of which we were delighted with - and Alan Shears, which is lame.

Danny Rose and Fraser Dig-by spring to mind.

Jim Cannon
16-08-2017, 10:00 PM
Danny Rose and Fraser Dig-by spring to mind.

Jordan Rhodedendrum?

elgin eagle
16-08-2017, 10:04 PM
Jordan Rhodedendrum?

Tim Flowers?

DARZET EAGLE
16-08-2017, 10:05 PM
Tim Flowers?

I recall dear old Ron Flowers too at Wolves, then there was Chopper Harris at Chelsea.

DARZET EAGLE
16-08-2017, 10:05 PM
Danny Rose and Fraser Dig-by spring to mind.

:p

Jim Cannon
16-08-2017, 10:07 PM
Tim Flowers?

See post # 56:D

DARZET EAGLE
16-08-2017, 10:08 PM
Jordan Rhodedendrum?

Did we ever have a Swede play for us?

Pikie Punisher
16-08-2017, 10:11 PM
Funnily enough I was doing 'top 3 garden related footballers' with my son at the weekend.

Errr....., okay, thanks for sharing that with us :eek:

Jim Cannon
16-08-2017, 10:16 PM
I recall dear old Ron Flowers too at Wolves, then there was Chopper Harris at Chelsea.

Yep Chopper Harris scythed down Chris Woods of Ipswich no doubt too:D

DARZET EAGLE
16-08-2017, 10:20 PM
Yep Chopper Harris scythed down Chris Woods of Ipswich no doubt too:D

Or could it have been our own Chopper Greenwood?

elgin eagle
16-08-2017, 10:32 PM
See post # 56:D

D'oh :D

Was already a good thread for punnery without this gardening twist.

SeaEagle
16-08-2017, 10:40 PM
I remember "Gardner finds Marrow" being uttered on Palace Player...

That was before all the "Marrow hobbling" hilarity.

4 cryingOutloud
16-08-2017, 11:12 PM
Did we ever have a Swede play for us?

Nope. We didn't have a carrot, cabbage or a potato either, but we did have a Thorn in our side. :love:

jimmy the gent
16-08-2017, 11:13 PM
Sing Chris wood and Simon cox, sit back and wait for the hilarity to ensue.

Palace Bear
16-08-2017, 11:24 PM
Rake Livemore.

PauLo
16-08-2017, 11:55 PM
*opens BBS*

Oh, it's just a load of puns.

*closes BBS*

GorBlimey
17-08-2017, 02:39 AM
*opens BBS*

Oh, it's just a load of punks.

*closes BBS*

Yeah, I never got into the Sex Pistols either.

bigend1
17-08-2017, 03:39 AM
Did we ever have a Swede play for us?

Supposed to but he didn't turnip for training

GorBlimey
17-08-2017, 04:06 AM
It would be daft to conflate and confuse this blokes name with someone who acted in Friends or directed the Death Wish movies.

There.

TC EAGLE
17-08-2017, 04:48 AM
He can sign for Brighton and become a weed

Seanee Pawnee
17-08-2017, 05:13 AM
Wimmer Wimmer Chicking Dimmer!

Palace Kebab
17-08-2017, 06:04 AM
Sheddie McGoldrick

Son of Ron
17-08-2017, 07:15 AM
Duggie Weedman

DARZET EAGLE
17-08-2017, 07:22 AM
Nope. We didn't have a carrot, cabbage or a potato either, but we did have a Thorn in our side. :love:

:D:D

Spindle
17-08-2017, 07:22 AM
Gary Lawneker would probably say some if these

DARZET EAGLE
17-08-2017, 07:23 AM
I remember "Gardner finds Marrow" being uttered on Palace Player...

That was before all the "Marrow hobbling" hilarity.

Brilliant.:p

old geezer
17-08-2017, 07:53 AM
Funnily enough I was doing 'top 3 garden related footballers' with my son at the weekend.

We came up with Kevin Strimmer and Romelu Luplantpot - both of which we were delighted with - and Alan Shears, which is lame.

We had the best in John Sewell affectionately known as shovel

jimmy the gent
17-08-2017, 08:24 AM
Garry WheelBarrowdale

ForzaPalace
17-08-2017, 08:38 AM
Good to see this transfer thread hasn't gone the way of the others and gone completely off track

jimmy the gent
17-08-2017, 08:56 AM
It's gone into the weeds for sure.

Jim Cannon
17-08-2017, 10:38 AM
Good to see this transfer thread hasn't gone the way of the others and gone completely off track

John "Crazy" Paving Stones would be enjoying it

Hitchin Eagle
17-08-2017, 11:28 AM
We had the best in John Sewell affectionately known as shovel

and less affectionately known as hoof.

ForzaPalace
17-08-2017, 12:00 PM
Off to West Brom.

Thefunkymonk
17-08-2017, 12:04 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/08/17/tottenham-defender-kevin-wimmer-talks-15-million-move-west-brom/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_tw

gilesy14
17-08-2017, 12:04 PM
Well it was a lovely idea anyway.

gilesy14
17-08-2017, 12:05 PM
I did have my doubts when I discovered that he wasn't available for loan or Dutch.

RisZero
17-08-2017, 12:05 PM
Not saying it wont happen, but "in talks" is hardly "done and starting this weekend" is it? :D

cpfcfan1
17-08-2017, 12:06 PM
Next

TheCharmer1
17-08-2017, 12:07 PM
Ha ha ha

BringbackShipps
17-08-2017, 12:12 PM
Surely we must be signing Sakho if we've pased up on BMI and now potentially Wimmer for what look like reasonable fees? If it's just Riedewald and TFM then we really are skint.

cpfcfan1
17-08-2017, 12:16 PM
Surely we must be signing Sakho if we've pased up on BMI and now potentially Wimmer for what look like reasonable fees? If it's just Riedewald and TFM then we really are skint.


Maybe we are, with the Rumour of a loan keeper from abroad probably means we are!

Martin H
17-08-2017, 12:33 PM
Bum.

cpfcfan1
17-08-2017, 12:35 PM
Bum.


Does he play for Brighton

Malarkey
17-08-2017, 12:39 PM
We should be beating a club like West Brom to signings like this.

Just sums our window up.

elgin eagle
17-08-2017, 12:44 PM
We should be beating a club like West Brom to signings like this.

Just sums our window-box up.

Should have stuck to puns about his name.

Malarkey
17-08-2017, 12:47 PM
Should have stuck to puns about his name.

I was too much of a Wimp.

CP-RJW
17-08-2017, 12:49 PM
We should be beating a club like West Brom to signings like this.

Just sums our window up.
What do you mean "a club like West Brom," we're Crystal Palace not Real Madrid.

Malarkey
17-08-2017, 12:49 PM
What do you mean "a club like West Brom," we're Crystal Palace not Real Madrid.

West Brom are boring

CP-RJW
17-08-2017, 12:51 PM
West Brom are boring
They probably think the same about us. The facts are that we're no bigger a club than them, finished lower the past two seasons and probably will again.

Chris K
17-08-2017, 12:51 PM
We should be beating a club like West Brom to signings like this.

Just sums our window up.

You mean a club that finished in the top half and not once looked like going down last season opposed to our effort of only being safe in the penultimate game of the season and finished in the bottom half?

You're right, it's a bloody disgrace

Malarkey
17-08-2017, 12:52 PM
They probably think the same about us. The facts are that we're no bigger a club than them, finished lower the past two seasons and probably will again.

You mean a club that finished in the top half and not once looked like going down last season opposed to our effort of only being safe in the penultimate game of the season and finished in the bottom half?

You're right, it's a bloody disgrace


Who ******* gives a flying **** about facts

Martin H
17-08-2017, 12:53 PM
We should be beating a club like West Brom to signings like this.

Just sums our window up.

If they are shipping out Evans then they will have cash.

CP-RJW
17-08-2017, 12:56 PM
Who ******* gives a flying **** about facts
Presumably Wimmer.

Malarkey
17-08-2017, 12:57 PM
Presumably Wimmer.

Don't want him anyway.

Zulu84
17-08-2017, 12:59 PM
They probably think the same about us. The facts are that we're no bigger a club than them, finished lower the past two seasons and probably will again.

But would you rather live in London or Birmingham...

jimmy the gent
17-08-2017, 12:59 PM
We should be beating a club like West Brom to signings like this.

Just sums our window up.

He's a centre back and there's no coach in the league that works and improves his defenders as much as Pulis. FdB might have been world class as a player in the position, but as a defensive coach Pulis is world class IMHO.

CP-RJW
17-08-2017, 01:03 PM
But would you rather live in London or Birmingham...
The majority of our players don't actually live in London

Zulu84
17-08-2017, 01:05 PM
He's a centre back and there's no coach in the league that works and improves his defenders as much as Pulis. FdB might have been world class as a player in the position, but as a defensive coach Pulis is world class IMHO.

Yup, But he's only world class for the old school, 4 in the back rigid type defender. A 'modern' playing out from the back type defender would probably be best served somewhere else.

Malarkey
17-08-2017, 01:07 PM
The majority of our players don't actually live in London

Let's reword his question...

Would you rather live in the midlands than the south?

Zulu84
17-08-2017, 01:09 PM
The majority of our players don't actually live in London

During the season they do and that's a big selling point for London clubs especially if they have spouses as most of the wives don't want to spend a ton of time in Stoke, Birmingham, newcastle etc

CP-RJW
17-08-2017, 01:12 PM
Let's reword his question...

Would you rather live in the midlands than the south?
The south definitely. The London pull can be helpful, particularly with foreign players, but location is merely one of my many factors in choosing a club, and not enough for us to dismiss clubs like West Brom as being ones "we should" be beating to signings.

Zulu84
17-08-2017, 01:15 PM
The south definitely. The London pull can be helpful, particularly with foreign players, but location is merely one of my many factors in choosing a club, and not enough for us to dismiss clubs like West Brom as being ones "we should" be beating to signings.

No s**t. It was a flippant comment to poke fun at west Brom. Obviously salary, management, agent, facilites etc also play a part.

CP-RJW
17-08-2017, 01:15 PM
During the season they do and that's a big selling point for London clubs especially if they have spouses as most of the wives don't want to spend a ton of time in Stoke, Birmingham, newcastle etc
Yep, agreed, but it's not an overriding selling point that eclipses things like wages, opportunities for playing time, playing squad, league position, manager etc. Otherwise the two title favorites wouldn't be from Manchester.

Malarkey
17-08-2017, 01:17 PM
The south definitely. The London pull can be helpful, particularly with foreign players, but location is merely one of my many factors in choosing a club, and not enough for us to dismiss clubs like West Brom as being ones "we should" be beating to signings.

You didn't have to take it literally...

CP-RJW
17-08-2017, 01:18 PM
No s**t. It was a flippant comment to poke fun at west brom.

Nah I've seen god knows how many arrogant comments on this board dismissing all clubs outside the top 8 as being not as attractive as ourselves. Sounds like Newcastle fans at times. Fair enough if it was meant to be flippant but it wasn't obvious.

Zulu84
17-08-2017, 01:18 PM
You didn't have to take it literally...

Haha, and twice...

Martin H
17-08-2017, 01:27 PM
He's a centre back and there's no coach in the league that works and improves his defenders as much as Pulis. FdB might have been world class as a player in the position, but as a defensive coach Pulis is world class IMHO.

Made me think about it. Does he improve defenders or does he build the whole team around defending that makes them more effective at the cost of the forwards? He definitely does the latter but I am just trying to think of a defender that he has actually made into a better player by the time they part.

I guess the most obvious one to assess would be Ryan Shawcross (ex ManU) and I would say MEH based on a personal opinion TBH. He struggled for England (in a 'normal shape' out of TP's domain). I have no valid way to assess it and nearest I have got so far is Squawka's performance scores. He is only ranked 96th in list of defenders on overall performance and if you take defensive performance only as the measure he is still only 68th in the division.

Just as a point of reference, Souare was 4th in the latter (over 3 matches :wallbash::sob::sob:) and Sakho was 24th. intriguingly Schlupp was second for us in our sub-list.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
17-08-2017, 03:16 PM
It's a shame for us in a way but of WBA are selling Evans then it is no surprise.

Malarkey
17-08-2017, 03:21 PM
Why can't we sell Evans and buy Wimmer

RisZero
17-08-2017, 03:22 PM
Made me think about it. Does he improve defenders or does he build the whole team around defending that makes them more effective at the cost of the forwards? He definitely does the latter but I am just trying to think of a defender that he has actually made into a better player by the time they part.

What if I told you that a shit defender who plays well above themselves in the chosen system is still an improved defender.

New LP
17-08-2017, 03:23 PM
Made me think about it. Does he improve defenders or does he build the whole team around defending that makes them more effective at the cost of the forwards? He definitely does the latter but I am just trying to think of a defender that he has actually made into a better player by the time they part.



I guess the most obvious one to assess would be Ryan Shawcross (ex ManU) and I would say MEH based on a personal opinion TBH. He struggled for England (in a 'normal shape' out of TP's domain). I have no valid way to assess it and nearest I have got so far is Squawka's performance scores. He is only ranked 96th in list of defenders on overall performance and if you take defensive performance only as the measure he is still only 68th in the division.



Just as a point of reference, Souare was 4th in the latter (over 3 matches :wallbash::sob::sob:) and Sakho was 24th. intriguingly Schlupp was second for us in our sub-list.


Scott Dann was a better defender after Pulis managed him. Went from the Championship to being talked about as a potential England player.

jimmy the gent
17-08-2017, 03:26 PM
Pulis definitely improves defenders. Yes he also improves overall team defending, which might make their job easier, but without doubt he is a defender's manager.. He buys fairly solid, decent athletes, and turns them into top class, unfussy defenders. The amount of time he spends working on positional training and defensive shape does that alone, and that's without his obsessive eye for detail. Ward was massively improved, as was Dann and Delaney.

Martin H
17-08-2017, 03:37 PM
What if I told you that a shit defender who plays well above themselves in the chosen system is still an improved defender.

I would say that you are seeking to mislead me because he actually isn't necessarily any better at all. And the team has had to sacrifice to accommodate said shit player :)

Martin H
17-08-2017, 03:38 PM
Scott Dann was a better defender after Pulis managed him. Went from the Championship to being talked about as a potential England player.

Actually I think he is a good example of my point.

TWELLSEagle
17-08-2017, 03:42 PM
What a fekin surprise. So over this window. Mega shit, totally disheartening

Penstone Eagle
17-08-2017, 04:50 PM
FdB clearly not the attraction for players that some on here claimed.

Friskey
17-08-2017, 05:20 PM
Not bothered to miss out on him at all.

Martin H
17-08-2017, 05:23 PM
FdB clearly not the attraction for players that some on here claimed.

LOL - we don't actually know if we even approached do we? Or did I miss something.

GreatGonzo
17-08-2017, 05:43 PM
Pulis definitely improves defenders. Yes he also improves overall team defending, which might make their job easier, but without doubt he is a defender's manager.. He buys fairly solid, decent athletes, and turns them into top class, unfussy defenders. The amount of time he spends working on positional training and defensive shape does that alone, and that's without his obsessive eye for detail. Ward was massively improved, as was Dann and Delaney.

And yet they are is a reason why they are the only mid table team not to sell out their ground.

Thefunkymonk
17-08-2017, 05:45 PM
FdB clearly not the attraction for players that some on here claimed.

Or the cash isn't being coughed up for the type of players FdB can attract?

jamieb73
17-08-2017, 05:48 PM
jesus all that has been said is that WBA are interested that's all!..whinging kn**heads on ere

CoDownEagle
17-08-2017, 05:50 PM
Exactly our priority .....another defender to add to the 8 we already have.

TheCharmer1
17-08-2017, 06:07 PM
Exactly our priority .....another defender to add to the 8 we already have.

what? you saw the game at the weekend and get the formation, yes?

TC EAGLE
18-08-2017, 10:25 AM
PULIS ON WIMMER

Tony Pulis has played down reports that Kevin Wimmer is close to joining West Brom from Tottenham.

He said: "Whoever's telling you we are close, is miles away from that fact. We have a lot of irons in the fire with a lot of targets."

Sceagle
18-08-2017, 10:46 AM
PULIS ON WIMMER

Tony Pulis has played down reports that Kevin Wimmer is close to joining West Brom from Tottenham.

He said: "Whoever's telling you we are close, is miles away from that fact. We have a lot of irons in the fire with a lot of targets."

Liar. It was reported by Percy who is mates with Pulis. Pulis leaks transfers through him. Pulis is a ****.

TAK
18-08-2017, 12:00 PM
Pulis is a ****.

Worth repeating.

Martin H
18-08-2017, 12:22 PM
..... Pulis is a ****.

I thought this was repeating too. I can normally find something to like about most people but this **** is just a ****.

Jim Cannon
18-08-2017, 12:26 PM
Liar. It was reported by Percy who is mates with Pulis. Pulis leaks transfers through him. Pulis is a ****.

In case anyone missed this, it needs to be mentioned

GreatGonzo
18-08-2017, 12:29 PM
Not sure if people are aware but it has been tested in a court of law and i believe they found

Liar. Pulis is a ****.

PremierPalace
18-08-2017, 01:49 PM
Pulis is a ****.


This needs highlighting.

WandsworthEagle
18-08-2017, 01:58 PM
Not sure if people are aware but it has been tested in a court of law and i believe they found

Yes. i believe that the judge did indeed mention this in his summing up.

nicobos
18-08-2017, 07:05 PM
Thought he'd be a good option. Damn that pulis!

Feel we still need a real leader in the centre of defence. It's where we were weak last year.

Build from the back I say...

solpadeine
18-08-2017, 07:13 PM
Wikipedia confirms link (http://imgur.com/a/DslIq)

CoDownEagle
18-08-2017, 07:17 PM
How many defenders do we need in the squad ? Currently we have 8 surely that's enough....we don't need anymore there are far more pressing gaps that need filled.

Thefunkymonk
18-08-2017, 07:20 PM
How many defenders do we need in the squad ? Currently we have 8 surely that's enough....we don't need anymore there are far more pressing gaps that need filled.

We have one of the leakiest defences in the league.. out with the old.. in with the new

Jim Cannon
18-08-2017, 07:24 PM
We have one of the leakiest defences in the league.. out with the old.. in with the new

With our defence it is clearly down to coaching. TP and SA are 2 old fashioned hairdryer/bullying types who could enforce their views on how to defend and it worked. AP completely fecked it up and the jury is well and truly out on whether FDB can arrest the problem. However after one game its ridicilous to judge.....

Thefunkymonk
18-08-2017, 07:26 PM
With our defence it is clearly down to coaching. TP and SA are 2 old fashioned hairdryer/bullying types who could enforce their views on how to defend and it worked. AP completely fecked it up and the jury is well and truly out on whether FDB can arrest the problem. However after one game its ridicilous to judge.....

Not so sure it was that great under bfs.. we conceded a lot under him still. Granted it was 10x better than under SP.

Plus we defended as one big unit because that's what our quality dictates. Better defenders will put forward players a little more freedom

GreatGonzo
18-08-2017, 07:30 PM
How many defenders do we need in the squad ? Currently we have 8 surely that's enough....we don't need anymore there are far more pressing gaps that need filled.

CB's - TFM, Tomkins, Dann, Reidewald

We have 4 who are good enough.

Mr Palace
18-08-2017, 10:03 PM
We don't have Sakho.

Sakho is God

red&blue_moomin
18-08-2017, 11:38 PM
We don't have Sakho.

Sakho is God

He costs a lot of money! We need a cb, gk, am/inside forward type and maybe a rwb. The sakho fee with a bit of cleverness in the European market gets us a lot of those.

meee
19-08-2017, 12:24 AM
With our defence it is clearly down to coaching. TP and SA are 2 old fashioned hairdryer/bullying types who could enforce their views on how to defend and it worked. AP completely fecked it up and the jury is well and truly out on whether FDB can arrest the problem. However after one game its ridicilous to judge.....

Last season we conceded 32 goals under Pardew in 17 games and 31 under Allardyce in 21 games,so while the defence improved it was still way below what we would ideally want.You could argue that Allardyce needed to sort the previous issues out but the end of the season suggested he still wasn't that close and also included 40 million of spending on defensive minded players.Your last line is spot on.

Martin H
21-08-2017, 11:25 PM
Looked again at Wimmer and he looks the real deal to me. Class act and with good habits from Spurs alongside players that FDB knows well. So if it was my money I would get this guy over the line and leave Mama. I just think he looks a better bet in terms of value. Would be nice to think if he does turn up that he doesn't get blamed for not being Mama but lately there seems to be f*** all chance of that.

nicobos
22-08-2017, 04:51 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4811010/Crystal-Palace-make-15m-Spurs-Kevin-Wimmer.html

Hope we can get this one done. Good back up to sakho...

May mean moving on one of our current centre backs ?

CharlieCPFC
22-08-2017, 05:47 AM
Looked again at Wimmer and he looks the real deal to me. Class act and with good habits from Spurs alongside players that FDB knows well. So if it was my money I would get this guy over the line and leave Mama. I just think he looks a better bet in terms of value. Would be nice to think if he does turn up that he doesn't get blamed for not being Mama but lately there seems to be f*** all chance of that.

Good post.

Shamone
22-08-2017, 05:57 AM
CB's - TFM, Tomkins, Dann, Reidewald

We have 4 who are good enough.

I make that 3

Mr Palace
22-08-2017, 06:07 AM
Not as good as Sakho but he would still be a good signing. I think we need one more quality CB. I can see Kelly being sold and I fear one of our central midfielders will be sold, which may mean Riedewald being used there more than in defence.

Chris K
22-08-2017, 06:44 AM
Good player and half the price of Sakho, no brainer to me

stumpy feelers
22-08-2017, 07:02 AM
Him and Burke + Forward, this would be the 3 parish and FdB wants imo. Would make the world of difference.

Mad Raschic Ken
22-08-2017, 07:04 AM
Him and Burke + Forward, this would be the 3 parish and FdB wants imo. Would make the world of difference.

We need a keeper too. Even if it's not a first choice one.

TheCharmer1
22-08-2017, 07:39 AM
We need a keeper too. Even if it's not a first choice one.

Plus a right wing back

orp pisshead1
22-08-2017, 07:42 AM
Him and Burke + Forward, this would be the 3 parish and FdB wants imo. Would make the world of difference.

No keeper? :eek::eek:

orp pisshead1
22-08-2017, 07:43 AM
Plus a right wing back

Wouldn't surprise me if we got 4-5 in after letting 2-3 go despite SP saying 2-3 in.

CharlieCPFC
22-08-2017, 07:46 AM
24 years of age, in three years his value could easily double if not more. My Tottenham mate rates him very highly and said he's just been unlucky to play second fiddle to Vertonghen and Aldiervereld.

cpfcfan1
22-08-2017, 07:47 AM
24 years of age, in three years his value could easily double if not more. My Tottenham mate rates him very highly and said he's just been unlucky to play second fiddle to Vertonghen and Aldiervereld.


Signs for West Brom

Sceagle
22-08-2017, 08:35 AM
I make that 3

Why 3?

gilesy14
22-08-2017, 08:37 AM
Would be a great signing for us.

spt1978
22-08-2017, 08:38 AM
Not seen much of this guy, is he actually any good?

gilesy14
22-08-2017, 08:41 AM
Not seen much of this guy, is he actually any good?

Yep. Very.

exiledeagle
22-08-2017, 09:16 AM
When I see a thread bumped up , I tend to think ` at last a transfer `. Then I find out it is just an article in Daily Mail . Same last week with Burke , didn't someone say its sorted and hopefully he would be available for Liverpool game .
Maybe we will sign both but there has been so many rumours ( maybe just made up ) that i have become cynical . I have heard SP say on many occasions that we have had no interest at all in numerous reported targets , basically it is just lies in press ?

mylona
22-08-2017, 09:20 AM
When I see a thread bumped up , I tend to think ` at last a transfer `. Then I find out it is just an article in Daily Mail . Same last week with Burke , didn't someone say its sorted and hopefully he would be available for Liverpool game .
Maybe we will sign both but there has been so many rumours ( maybe just made up ) that i have become cynical . I have heard SP say on many occasions that we have had no interest at all in numerous reported targets , basically it is just lies in press ?

I think it is a case of there are players available that fit what Palace are looking for, but the required cash is not available.

Malarkey
22-08-2017, 09:20 AM
When I see a thread bumped up , I tend to think ` at last a transfer `. Then I find out it is just an article in Daily Mail .

At least there's an article...usually people just bump the threads randomly.

gilesy14
22-08-2017, 09:30 AM
When I see a thread bumped up , I tend to think ` at last a transfer `. Then I find out it is just an article in Daily Mail . Same last week with Burke , didn't someone say its sorted and hopefully he would be available for Liverpool game .
Maybe we will sign both but there has been so many rumours ( maybe just made up ) that i have become cynical . I have heard SP say on many occasions that we have had no interest at all in numerous reported targets , basically it is just lies in press ?

People talking about potential transfers reported in the national press in a transfer forum...outrageous behaviour. :veryangry

CPFC85
22-08-2017, 09:37 AM
Looked again at Wimmer and he looks the real deal to me. Class act and with good habits from Spurs alongside players that FDB knows well. So if it was my money I would get this guy over the line and leave Mama. I just think he looks a better bet in terms of value. Would be nice to think if he does turn up that he doesn't get blamed for not being Mama but lately there seems to be f*** all chance of that.

I'm swaying from Mama to hoping that we sign this guy. a born Wimmer.

Thefunkymonk
22-08-2017, 09:47 AM
This would be a better deal Than sakho

gilesy14
22-08-2017, 09:48 AM
Half the price of Sakho, significantly lower wages & he's 4 years younger...it would be a great bit of business if we can do it.

Thefunkymonk
22-08-2017, 09:48 AM
Half the price of Sakho, significantly lower wages & he's 4 years younger...it would be a great bit of business if we can do it.

Yep. You are probably talking Wimmer and Burke for price of sakho.. both in fees and wages

mroakley9
22-08-2017, 09:49 AM
This would be a better deal Than sakho

Yeah but Sakho's Twitter header is already of him in Palace kit so it's probably just easier for everyone to sign Sakho

Thefunkymonk
22-08-2017, 09:54 AM
Yeah but Sakho's Twitter header is already of him in Palace kit so it's probably just easier for everyone to sign Sakho

:supergrin:

DARZET EAGLE
22-08-2017, 09:57 AM
Not as good as Sakho but he would still be a good signing. I think we need one more quality CB. I can see Kelly being sold and I fear one of our central midfielders will be sold, which may mean Riedewald being used there more than in defence.

Maybe it's his prefered position.

DARZET EAGLE
22-08-2017, 09:59 AM
We need a keeper too. Even if it's not a first choice one.

This, but first choice.

Mr Palace
22-08-2017, 10:00 AM
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Maybe it's his prefered position.

I read that he can play there as he's versatile but that defence is his preferred position. But that may be wrong. I think he would be better deployed as a back up midfielder rather than in defence until he fully settles in.

DARZET EAGLE
22-08-2017, 10:04 AM
Yep. You are probably talking Wimmer and Burke for price of sakho.. both in fees and wages

It's a no brainer if this is the case. I have my doubts about Sakho now despite his wonderful contribution last season. Fee, wages, injury prospects....

Thefunkymonk
22-08-2017, 10:07 AM
It's a no brainer if this is the case. I have my doubts about Sakho now despite his wonderful contribution last season. Fee, wages, injury prospects....

I heard from someone fairly reliable that sakho is on 140k a week at Liverpool.. i'd imagine he would want the same here.. that alone is too much and could get 2/3 decent players for that amount a week.

DARZET EAGLE
22-08-2017, 10:09 AM
I read that he can play there as he's versatile but that defence is his preferred position. But that may be wrong. I think he would be better deployed as a back up midfielder rather than in defence until he fully settles in.

Agree, but I guess it depends on the quality defender we bring in and outgoings. He needs time to settle given his age and patience from the fans, but Tomkins and Dann are solid defenders. We know it's not just about sophisticated defenders who can play the ball out in a back three.

jamieb73
22-08-2017, 10:10 AM
He may well take a slight pay drop if he really wants to come here. Id imagine they'd be performance related bonuses so maybe 100k basic may be on the table...and he gets a big bonus if we stay up. But this wont happen until we offload at least 3 players. Tomkins, Kelly, Mutch and maybe Sako...

GreatGonzo
22-08-2017, 10:14 AM
I heard from someone fairly reliable that sakho is on 140k a week at Liverpool.. i'd imagine he would want the same here.. that alone is too much and could get 2/3 decent players for that amount a week.

Not that anywhere has him on that which you can see online, in fact the most common figure is about HALF that.

Thefunkymonk
22-08-2017, 10:17 AM
Not that anywhere has him on that which you can see online, in fact the most common figure is about HALF that.

I'm pretty confident in what I heard gg. Obviously there always a chance it could be bollocks

Martin H
22-08-2017, 11:06 AM
I heard from someone fairly reliable that sakho is on 140k a week at Liverpool.. i'd imagine he would want the same here.. that alone is too much and could get 2/3 decent players for that amount a week.

TBH if that figure is true it is barmy and if we try to match that we have truly lost the plot. I don't even think we could buy and sell him for a profit could we to compensate? If we pay anything over 15m it would be difficult. Say we kept him for 3 years he would be 30.

No it just doesn't make a lot of sense.

Jim Cannon
22-08-2017, 11:09 AM
Yeah but Sakho's Twitter header is already of him in Palace kit so it's probably just easier for everyone to sign Sakho

Probably got shirts already printed with his name and agreed on his squad number and everything

Jim Cannon
22-08-2017, 11:10 AM
He may well take a slight pay drop if he really wants to come here. Id imagine they'd be performance related bonuses so maybe 100k basic may be on the table...and he gets a big bonus if we stay up. But this wont happen until we offload at least 3 players. Tomkins, Kelly, Mutch and maybe Sako...

If you can find a buyer for Mutch, just call Parish direct and I bet he will pickup immediately

Eagle's Nest
22-08-2017, 11:12 AM
Mutch definitely looks like a Brighton player.

FourtyTwo
22-08-2017, 11:19 AM
Mutch definitely looks like a Brighton player.

If we did, you can guarantee he'd score against us twice this season, and probably end up in goal after their keeper gets sent off and saves the resultant penalty!

cpfcfan1
22-08-2017, 11:20 AM
Going head on with West Brom for this one by the looks of it

mroakley9
22-08-2017, 11:20 AM
Probably got shirts already printed with his name and agreed on his squad number and everything

Parish might save a few quid on Wimmer, but think of all the unnecessary admin he'll have to do. Signing Sakho just makes sense.

Thefunkymonk
22-08-2017, 11:35 AM
Parish might save a few quid on Wimmer, but think of all the unnecessary admin he'll have to do. Signing Sakho just makes sense.

We ain't getting sakho. Be surprised if we even get wimmer.. prob more likely to get that bloke from AEK Athens for couple million quid

GreatGonzo
22-08-2017, 11:36 AM
I'm pretty confident in what I heard gg. Obviously there always a chance it could be bollocks

Yup, No matter where we read or hear this stuff none of us are likely to know the true figures, it is just that is so far out from all the figures i have found for him and likely put him only behind Coutinho in the payroll for Liverpool.

Ultimately the more he is on the more money Liverpool will be wasting by having him on the wage bill doing nothing. Therefore more of an incentive to get him off that bill.

At the figure you mention they are on the hook for 21m in wages on the remainder of his contract!

Thefunkymonk
22-08-2017, 11:37 AM
Yup, No matter where we read or hear this stuff none of us are likely to know the true figures, it is just that is so far out from all the figures i have found for him and likely put him only behind Coutinho in the payroll for Liverpool.

Ultimately the more he is on the more money Liverpool will be wasting by having him on the wage bill doing nothing. Therefore more of an incentive to get him off that bill.

At the figure you mention they are on the hook for 21m in wages on the remainder of his contract!

They seem To give no ****s about paying him

Sceagle
22-08-2017, 01:42 PM
I'm pretty confident in what I heard gg. Obviously there always a chance it could be bollocks

You're right, 140k a week

SmokeyStover7
22-08-2017, 04:17 PM
You're right, 140k a week


I am guessing Cabaye would have to leave in order to even afford Sakho.

PHIL BARBER
22-08-2017, 04:18 PM
Move on not coming to us.

DARZET EAGLE
22-08-2017, 05:06 PM
Move on not coming to us.

Sakho or Wimmer, or maybe both.:confused:

McpfcS
22-08-2017, 05:25 PM
Move on not coming to us.


Move onto another message board as you promised.

CharlieCPFC
23-08-2017, 08:34 AM
West Brom apparently looking to seal a deal of 30M for both Wimmer and Janssen. That'd be very good business in my eyes.

9Freedman9
23-08-2017, 08:36 AM
West Brom apparently looking to seal a deal of 30M for both Wimmer and Janssen. That'd be very good business in my eyes.

Janssen is absolute pony.

CharlieCPFC
23-08-2017, 08:39 AM
Janssen is absolute pony.

I think he has something about him, he looked dangerous against us at their place last year. Good intelligence and hold up play, probably needs more game time to adapt at this level.

Spindle
23-08-2017, 08:51 AM
I'm pretty confident in what I heard gg. Obviously there always a chance it could be bollocks

A big chance. 140k pw for a guy signed nearly 4 years ago? That would've put him in Rooney territory at the time so most certainly bollocks

Spindle
23-08-2017, 08:54 AM
Move on not coming to us.

Whats your source this time? Pretty sure you already said this one was done in wages just waiting for fee to be agreed.

Owngoal
23-08-2017, 08:56 AM
I heard from someone fairly reliable that sakho is on 140k a week at Liverpool.. i'd imagine he would want the same here.. that alone is too much and could get 2/3 decent players for that amount a week.

When we signed him on loan I'd swear it was said we were paying his full wages of 100,000 a week and a two million loan fee?

Spindle
23-08-2017, 08:56 AM
Janssen is absolute pony.

He is but he runs about a lot so will suit Pulis

glaziers fan
23-08-2017, 08:58 AM
TBH if that figure is true it is barmy and if we try to match that we have truly lost the plot. I don't even think we could buy and sell him for a profit could we to compensate? If we pay anything over 15m it would be difficult. Say we kept him for 3 years he would be 30.

No it just doesn't make a lot of sense.

The reason Sakho makes sense is far more than what he can actually produce on the football field. It's not just his ability, and the fact he's left sided. It's also that he gets on very well with the players like Benteke, and he is adored by the Palace fans. I can't actually remember a defender getting so much love from the terraces. Even a legend like Delaney got nowhere near the level of appreciation from the crowd; "Sakho Sakho Sakho!" after about five games, if that!

If the figures are true and he is on 140k a week at Liverpool then that is excellent news for us because it means that despite their hardball stance, they will really want to get rid of him in this window - another 3m in wages before the January transfer window! Also, rumours are he has already agreed terms with us, and he won't be on more than 100k a week I wouldn't have thought.

The real issue is the transfer fee. 30m up front for a 27 year old defender for a club like Palace would be ridiculous. However 25m with 15m up front, and the rest determined by appearances and our level of success - maybe 5m after 75 appearances would not be so bad. It's positive to hear that Liverpool are softening their stance on this. I remain hopeful that we can get this guy over the line.

By the way - and this is still further off topic from the Wimmer discussion! - even if we manage to get in the 3 or 4 quality additions in this window there is still going to be a lot of rebuilding to do next summer. However a lot of the dross has already gone, and a lot of fringe players (with the exception of Jordon Mutch) will be out of contract in the summer. So we are actually in a healthy position. I feel it's positive that FdB are taking their time to assess what we currently have. I wouldn't want to see first-team players like Tomkins, Townsend, Cabaye or even Ward go in this window. Maybe next summer. But it's hard to get more than 4 or 5 new players in without panic-buying and fail to scout properly.

Basically, FdB will hopefully be afforded the time to rebuild the club, and bring in his players to complement the talent already here. We the fans need to be patient. It won't be until January 2019 that we will know how good FdB is, but I already like what I have seen, even 3 games in to the current season. He is not afraid to change the formation, but he is sticking (albeit pragmatically) to his beliefs. Swansea and then the Burnley and Southampton games will show us what he is really about.

Martin H
23-08-2017, 09:18 AM
GF - that looks like a thorough rational post but it's surely mad!

So you would happily pay Sakho 140k per week?

Not arguing any points, just the madness about paying any CB that much at Palace.
That is why Wimmer looks a far better bet.

TBH I am a bit nervous that SP might have got his head into the same position and had conversations with the player that he doesn't want to renege on now.

Hector
23-08-2017, 09:22 AM
West Brom apparently looking to seal a deal of 30M for both Wimmer and Janssen. That'd be very good business in my eyes.

That's a great deal.

mikeywm3
23-08-2017, 09:23 AM
Had a Twitter conversation yesterday with Fifield, where he said the quoted price for Wimmer (15 million) is probably an amount that Palace won't pay.

Thefunkymonk
23-08-2017, 09:26 AM
Had a Twitter conversation yesterday with Fifield, where he said the quoted price for Wimmer (15 million) is probably an amount that Palace won't pay.

And people think we'll pay 30m for sakho

spt1978
23-08-2017, 09:32 AM
The reason Sakho makes sense is far more than what he can actually produce on the football field. It's not just his ability, and the fact he's left sided. It's also that he gets on very well with the players like Benteke, and he is adored by the Palace fans. I can't actually remember a defender getting so much love from the terraces. Even a legend like Delaney got nowhere near the level of appreciation from the crowd; "Sakho Sakho Sakho!" after about five games, if that!

If the figures are true and he is on 140k a week at Liverpool then that is excellent news for us because it means that despite their hardball stance, they will really want to get rid of him in this window - another 3m in wages before the January transfer window! Also, rumours are he has already agreed terms with us, and he won't be on more than 100k a week I wouldn't have thought.

The real issue is the transfer fee. 30m up front for a 27 year old defender for a club like Palace would be ridiculous. However 25m with 15m up front, and the rest determined by appearances and our level of success - maybe 5m after 75 appearances would not be so bad. It's positive to hear that Liverpool are softening their stance on this. I remain hopeful that we can get this guy over the line.

By the way - and this is still further off topic from the Wimmer discussion! - even if we manage to get in the 3 or 4 quality additions in this window there is still going to be a lot of rebuilding to do next summer. However a lot of the dross has already gone, and a lot of fringe players (with the exception of Jordon Mutch) will be out of contract in the summer. So we are actually in a healthy position. I feel it's positive that FdB are taking their time to assess what we currently have. I wouldn't want to see first-team players like Tomkins, Townsend, Cabaye or even Ward go in this window. Maybe next summer. But it's hard to get more than 4 or 5 new players in without panic-buying and fail to scout properly.

Basically, FdB will hopefully be afforded the time to rebuild the club, and bring in his players to complement the talent already here. We the fans need to be patient. It won't be until January 2019 that we will know how good FdB is, but I already like what I have seen, even 3 games in to the current season. He is not afraid to change the formation, but he is sticking (albeit pragmatically) to his beliefs. Swansea and then the Burnley and Southampton games will show us what he is really about.

You think Sakho would take a 40k per week drop on a deal which has 3 years to go, that's approx. 6m he would be giving up.

out vile jelly
23-08-2017, 09:32 AM
Had a Twitter conversation yesterday with Fifield, where he said the quoted price for Wimmer (15 million) is probably an amount that Palace won't pay.
Really? Christ, if we are not willing to pay 15million for a high-quality, young centre back, then we are really not going to get anyone good in before the end of the window.

bigend1
23-08-2017, 09:34 AM
Even if he was on 140k a week he might actually want to come here and play football again. He's already a fans favourite and good mates with benteke. Accepting less cash isn't really the done things these days but as we've apparently already agreed terms with him I'd suggest he might be on less than that to come here.

CharlieCPFC
23-08-2017, 09:47 AM
Really? Christ, if we are not willing to pay 15million for a high-quality, young centre back, then we are really not going to get anyone good in before the end of the window.

Yep if true that's very worrying. Hopefully it's bullshit, we need a center half still in my eyes and Wimmer for 15M is a steal. He's good on the ball, a good defender and provides good sell on value.

Thefunkymonk
23-08-2017, 09:49 AM
Yep if true that's very worrying. Hopefully it's bullshit, we need a center half still in my eyes and Wimmer for 15M is a steal. He's good on the ball, a good defender and provides good sell on value.

Like I said in the previous page at the top.. wouldn't surprise me if we end up signing that bloke from AEK

Martin H
23-08-2017, 09:53 AM
Like I said in the previous page at the top.. wouldn't surprise me if we end up signing that bloke from AEK

I really do hope he is a lot better than his highlights video which is genuinely the worst one I have ever seen :(

CharlieCPFC
23-08-2017, 09:58 AM
Like I said in the previous page at the top.. wouldn't surprise me if we end up signing that bloke from AEK

I won't get critical of the board yet but if this is the way we go then you can only expect sub standard performances. We've been clinging onto survival for a while now, we could easily fall into the trap of becoming like Sunderland with a squad filled with cheap average-poor players. I'd rather we remove the dead wood when we can like Mutch etc and fill them with quality even if it means sacrificing the size of the squad. We need to rebuild but we need to do it properly and not make the same mistake we've done previously l.

Thefunkymonk
23-08-2017, 09:59 AM
I really do hope he is a lot better than his highlights video which is genuinely the worst one I have ever seen :(

My theory is if we can sell one of Dann or Tomkins then we get sakho.. if we don't and sell Kelly we will buy a cheap defender for squad filler

Thefunkymonk
23-08-2017, 09:59 AM
I won't get critical of the board yet but if this is the way we go then you can only expect sub standard performances. We've been clinging onto survival for a while now, we could easily fall into the trap of becoming like Sunderland with a squad filled with cheap average-poor players. I'd rather we remove the dead wood when we can like Mutch etc and fill them with quality even if it means sacrificing the size of the squad. We need to rebuild but we need to do it properly and not make the same mistake we've done previously l.

Personally more concerned about RWB and our forward options than centre back now

glaziers fan
23-08-2017, 10:05 AM
Like I said in the previous page at the top.. wouldn't surprise me if we end up signing that bloke from AEK

It would surprise me. We don't need numbers for the sake of it. It's all posturing to get Liverpool to soften their stance. Which they have already done, with over a week to go! As for Wimmer, he's ok, but nothing to get excited about. Especially not for 15m.

Martin H
23-08-2017, 10:06 AM
Personally more concerned about RWB and our forward options than centre back now

I am worried about them all TBH. We are woefully short of a squad of players we would be happy to start with for a tough Premier season. Need the best players to stay fit. Not started well has it.

glaziers fan
23-08-2017, 10:07 AM
My theory is if we can sell one of Dann or Tomkins then we get sakho.. if we don't and sell Kelly we will buy a cheap defender for squad filler

Dann has started every game for FdB. Why would the manager want him to go? He's done well.

glaziers fan
23-08-2017, 10:08 AM
Personally more concerned about RWB and our forward options than centre back now

Townsend will hopefully get the opportunity to play RWB vs Swansea. Otherwise, what was pre-season for?! AT did well there in pre-season.

AJ
23-08-2017, 10:08 AM
Yep if true that's very worrying. Hopefully it's bullshit, we need a center half still in my eyes and Wimmer for 15M is a steal. He's good on the ball, a good defender and provides good sell on value.

15m for anyone is daylight robbery, but that's the crazy world of football transfers these days.

gilesy14
23-08-2017, 10:09 AM
Dann has started every game for FdB. Why would the manager want him to go? He's done well.

Puncheon has started every game & is captain, yet you keeping posting about dropping him.

& he did not do well vs Huddersfield.

CPFC85
23-08-2017, 10:13 AM
Yep if true that's very worrying. Hopefully it's bullshit, we need a center half still in my eyes and Wimmer for 15M is a steal. He's good on the ball, a good defender and provides good sell on value.

If we are not prepared to go that high then we'll struggle and will probably go down. This is becoming bloody tedious now. No point bringing in a manager who wants to instill a new formation and style of play unless you're willing to not be a tight arse.

Friskey
23-08-2017, 10:15 AM
Puncheon has started every game & is captain, yet you keeping posting about dropping him.

& he did not do well vs Huddersfield.

I would have posted similar before last night.

However, and I know it was a nothing game, his legs have completely gone. He can't play in a two with such limited mobility so he's eventually going to lose his place (IMO).

glaziers fan
23-08-2017, 10:16 AM
I won't get critical of the board yet but if this is the way we go then you can only expect sub standard performances. We've been clinging onto survival for a while now, we could easily fall into the trap of becoming like Sunderland with a squad filled with cheap average-poor players. I'd rather we remove the dead wood when we can like Mutch etc and fill them with quality even if it means sacrificing the size of the squad. We need to rebuild but we need to do it properly and not make the same mistake we've done previously l.

That's absolutely correct. 100%.

We are actually in a very good position. It feels like we can attract the top talent. FdB is a big name. So let's do it. We are also in a terrific position because the number of players like Jordon Mutch and CYL now on our books we can count on one hand. I can see why we had to buy the dross and the squad fillers when promoted because quite frankly we couldn't attract the big names as we were expected to struggle. But now we can. And the money will hopefully be found.

This idea that we need a massive squad is nonsense as well. If you have a few players who can play a number of positions, which we do, you only need a squad of about 18 players. There are 15 or so games to go until the next transfer window. Unless we are decimated by injury we should be ok. Chelsea won the league with a core of about 14 players. We are not competing in Europe. We should be fine!

Friskey
23-08-2017, 10:16 AM
As for Wimmer I've posted before that I end up seeing a fair few Spurs games each season. I don't think he's particularly good.

glaziers fan
23-08-2017, 10:17 AM
Puncheon has started every game & is captain, yet you keeping posting about dropping him.

& he did not do well vs Huddersfield.

Ok, he was poor against Huddersfield. But most of them were. And he was good vs Liverpool. As for Puncheon, I agree it is almost certain he will hold his place in the XI. But no-one is talking about JP leaving the club are they?

glaziers fan
23-08-2017, 10:18 AM
As for Wimmer I've posted before that I end up seeing a fair few Spurs games each season. I don't think he's particularly good.

This ^^^

gilesy14
23-08-2017, 10:21 AM
Ok, he was poor against Huddersfield. But most of them were. And he was good vs Liverpool. As for Puncheon, I agree it is almost certain he will hold his place in the XI. But no-one is talking about JP leaving the club are they?

Probably because he's not as sellable as Dann? Unpopular opinion, but Tomkins is a better player for me than Dann - especially if playing in the middle of a 3.

Dann is one player we could command a half decent fee for - I'd rather keep him, but he's way more dispensable now than he was 12 months ago.

& Wimmer really is a decent player. I know a lot of Spurs fans & they think very highly of him. Whenever Vertonghen is injured, it's never an issue as Wimmer comes in & does a good job.

glaziers fan
23-08-2017, 10:22 AM
GF - that looks like a thorough rational post but it's surely mad!

So you would happily pay Sakho 140k per week?

Not arguing any points, just the madness about paying any CB that much at Palace.
That is why Wimmer looks a far better bet.

TBH I am a bit nervous that SP might have got his head into the same position and had conversations with the player that he doesn't want to renege on now.

The finances aren't up to me, but would happily see him join Benteke and Zaha on the rumoured 115k a week. If that's what it takes. He is a very good player, left-sided and at peak age for a centre back.

Remember, buy cheap buy twice... or three or four times! Quality not quantity please.

glaziers fan
23-08-2017, 10:26 AM
Probably because he's not as sellable as Dann? Unpopular opinion, but Tomkins is a better player for me than Dann - especially if playing in the middle of a 3.

Dann is one player we could command a half decent fee for - I'd rather keep him, but he's way more dispensable now than he was 12 months ago.

& Wimmer really is a decent player. I know a lot of Spurs fans & they think very highly of him. Whenever Vertonghen is injured, it's never an issue as Wimmer comes in & does a good job.

Fair enough on Wimmer, compliments don't come higher than that!

As for Dann, I would have actually thought taking into account their respective ages that Tomkins was more saleable? I'd keep Dann, because I like his ability in the opposition's box which complements the aerial strength of Benteke for our set-pieces. Plus he's a good defender. I think I am actually in the minority though - most hardcore Palace fans would probably prefer Tomkins over Dann.

Martin H
23-08-2017, 10:28 AM
The finances aren't up to me, but would happily see him join Benteke and Zaha on the rumoured 115k a week. If that's what it takes. He is a very good player, left-sided and at peak age for a centre back.

Remember, buy cheap buy twice... or three or four times! Quality not quantity please.

OK so you are happy and we just need Sakho to accept. A 25k per week paycut. Circa 1.3m a year. Sounds easy.

I also get the quality point but availability is also important. We need a competitive squad of a min of 17-18 players plus cover. I.e. Players we would be happy to start with. We are well short of that.

gilesy14
23-08-2017, 10:32 AM
Fair enough on Wimmer, compliments don't come higher than that!

As for Dann, I would have actually thought taking into account their respective ages that Tomkins was more saleable? I'd keep Dann, because I like his ability in the opposition's box which complements the aerial strength of Benteke for our set-pieces. Plus he's a good defender. I think I am actually in the minority though - most hardcore Palace fans would probably prefer Tomkins over Dann.

Dann was being linked with Everton a year ago - he's obviously been touted by clubs after a couple of great seasons for us. Tomkins came to us unchallenged pretty much...

Another point re Wimmer - his wages will be monumentally less than Sakho's. I think if we want 3 or 4 new signings, which we need, we need to realise Sakho isn't doable. Getting someone half his price, on possibly 1/3 of his wages & 4 years younger with Prem experience whilst being able to finance 2 or 3 more players...it makes a lot of sense to me. As much as we'd all love to have Mamadou back here.

Jubrique Eagle
23-08-2017, 10:32 AM
I am worried about them all TBH. We are woefully short of a squad of players we would be happy to start with for a tough Premier season. Need the best players to stay fit. Not started well has it.

I think my priority would be;

1) Forward
2) Keeper
3) RWB
4) 2nd Forward
5) Center Back

Not ideal but we have to be realistic I would love Sakho but I think that currently we have Dann, Tomkins, Kelly, TFM, Riedewald & Delaney plus Luka and Ward can play at a push. Obviously if any are sold it may change depending on who it is!!

From what I saw of the Liverpool game the defence look quite solid they really only created chances late on when we were chasing the game.

Forward - no justification needed really we need someone to play with Benteke or at the very least cover and a plan B

Keeper - we really do need a good solid keeper I know Hennessey pulled of a few decent saves against Liverpool but he just doesn't give me any confidence so just imagine how or defenders must feel.

RWB I am not in what seem to be the BBS new trendy club lets slag off Ward. He has been a great player for us since he arrived just don't think he has the game for RWB but at the very least he needs strong competition on that side.

2nd forward - OK its tight between 2nd forward or CB but I think we need more options. I rate Connor but we know he is out until January and have no idea if he will 100% after such a bad injury. Plus I just think we need variation and depth of cover up front. I just think we are very light up front and that we could cope better with a couple of CB injuries than we could forwards.

Well that's my thoughts ...counts for sod all of course ;-)

Sceagle
23-08-2017, 10:37 AM
As for Wimmer I've posted before that I end up seeing a fair few Spurs games each season. I don't think he's particularly good.

Yet Spurs fans think he's really good. Hmm.

Friskey
23-08-2017, 10:43 AM
Yet Spurs fans think he's really good. Hmm.

You know every Spurs fan? Cool story.

Friskey
23-08-2017, 10:45 AM
Yet Spurs fans think he's really good. Hmm.

Plus if he's that good why are they letting him go? They're hardly well stocked back there.