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Thefunkymonk
29-08-2017, 09:37 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/palace-leicester-townsend-gray-swap-11078342.amp

Malarkey
29-08-2017, 09:38 PM
Nah, pointless

exiledeagle
29-08-2017, 09:39 PM
is he left footed ?

DaveP
29-08-2017, 09:40 PM
I personally would!

Gray has the potential to be a top class winger if given the time. Him and Zaha either side of Benteke would be excellent!

carter
29-08-2017, 09:40 PM
10M plus Gray? As much as I like Townsend I think we've gotta take that

Kidofwonder
29-08-2017, 09:40 PM
Would rather Gray than Andros

Thefunkymonk
29-08-2017, 09:40 PM
I would take that all day long

Reps AJ
29-08-2017, 09:40 PM
Yes please

Windsor_Eagle
29-08-2017, 09:40 PM
I'd do that swap.

Kidofwonder
29-08-2017, 09:40 PM
10M plus Gray? Have to take I think.. as much as I like Townsend

If thats the offer bite ******* hands off

Malarkey
29-08-2017, 09:40 PM
I personally would!

Gray has the potential to be a top class winger if given the time. Him and Zaha either side of Benteke would be excellent!

I don't want "potential" atm tbh

He's quite good atm though

Chillo
29-08-2017, 09:41 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/palace-leicester-townsend-gray-swap-11078342.amp

Been reading the BBS! ;)

ebyeeckeagle
29-08-2017, 09:41 PM
Why pointless? 10m surplus on the deal. Neither player is worth the sums involved but I've given up on that aspect really.

Personally I think Gray is a really good player but there you go.

Malarkey
29-08-2017, 09:43 PM
Why pointless? 10m surplus on the deal. Neither player is worth the sums involved but I've given up on that aspect really.

Personally I think Gray is a really good player but there you go.

Too late in the window for us to judge whether Gray is a good enough replacement or not, and probably too late to invest the money

Thefunkymonk
29-08-2017, 09:43 PM
Nah, pointless

What we get 10m plus gray... be outstanding business

dilem
29-08-2017, 09:43 PM
gray is way better than townsend + younger.. would be a great deal

davech
29-08-2017, 09:43 PM
Sounds like an excellent deal to me. Go for it.

St.AlbansEagle
29-08-2017, 09:44 PM
This is much more appealing....

Terrace Bickle
29-08-2017, 09:44 PM
What we get 10m plus gray... be outstanding business
This all day long, shame it's unlikely to be true.

Kidofwonder
29-08-2017, 09:45 PM
Too late in the window for us to judge whether Gray is a good enough replacement or not, and probably too late to invest the money

Pretty much agreed by everyone in football (barre Leicester) that Gray is lightyears ahead of Townsend

RisZero
29-08-2017, 09:45 PM
FK YES

Ahem

I like Gray, so I would not object to this

Malarkey
29-08-2017, 09:45 PM
Pretty much agreed by everyone in football (barre Leicester) that Gray is lightyears ahead of Townsend

Do you have a tendency to exaggerate?

Jim Cannon
29-08-2017, 09:48 PM
This all day long, shame it's unlikely to be true.

My thoughts too

sl6 Eagle
29-08-2017, 09:51 PM
They've just read a few suggestions on here and run it as a story, how often do you see a swap player deal this day and age.
Would be all for it though!!

Gregz41
29-08-2017, 09:52 PM
I like Townsend, but he does have limitations. Gray is probably close in ability already, younger and possesses more potential. On that basis, I'd go for it.

ForzaPalace
29-08-2017, 09:53 PM
Won't happen

CPFC85
29-08-2017, 09:57 PM
Bank!

Happy Arthur
29-08-2017, 09:59 PM
For me, the only way AT can go to Leicester is to have a player come our way. I was expecting Ulloa :|

Malarkey
29-08-2017, 10:01 PM
For me, the only way AT can go to Leicester is to have a player come our way. I was expecting Ulloa :|

Ulloa or Gray?

CP-RJW
29-08-2017, 10:03 PM
Gray has more attacking talent than Townsend and obviously has far more room to grow as a player, but how is his work rate and tracking back?

Malarkey
29-08-2017, 10:05 PM
but how is his work rate and tracking back?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Stellavista
29-08-2017, 10:07 PM
Ah, the joy of the transfer window fantasy.

mexicaneagle
29-08-2017, 10:11 PM
Andros is one of our only bright players showing fight and desire. And he's really good. Why get rid?

Lordashenden
29-08-2017, 10:11 PM
I'd be ok with this because gray appears to have a lot of potential and his style screams out palace winger imo. That said harsh on Townsend who was very good under BFS and played an important role going forward as well as defending which helped towards us surviving.

Dal
29-08-2017, 10:13 PM
Leicester fans think Gray has a bad attitude. Personally think he's not been picked enough when he's been playing well for them but may be something in it.

Chris K
29-08-2017, 10:13 PM
Best player on Saturday but to get 10m in the bank plus a player of similar standard and probably lower wages makes this a no brainer if true

Malarkey
29-08-2017, 10:16 PM
Andros is one of our only bright players showing fight and desire. And he's really good. Why get rid?

Erm, this

kark
29-08-2017, 10:18 PM
Demarai Gray? Plus 10m? For Andros Townsend?

Mmmmm, yeayah

Fank you very much

Ave a good day

Bye


(It's bullshit and won't happen by the way)

Kirby
29-08-2017, 10:20 PM
This would be the most ridiculous swap deal since we got 4.5m and Andy Johnson for Clint.

I'd pay 10m + Townsend for Gray, let alone the other way around.

elgin eagle
29-08-2017, 10:24 PM
Be good if they chucked Musa in as well. Is that being too greedy? :)

Crunchie
29-08-2017, 10:24 PM
This would be the most ridiculous swap deal since we got 4.5m and Andy Johnson for Clint.

I'd pay 10m + Townsend for Gray, let alone the other way around.

Me too!

Plus Gray would play on The left and Zaha on the righT. A better balance all round.

Put a good word in Shluppy (if you can currently!)

RisZero
29-08-2017, 10:25 PM
I'd pay 10m + Townsend for Gray, let alone the other way around.

Just basically said the same thing to Woosie, I had to reread the article a few times to make sure

exiledeagle
29-08-2017, 10:27 PM
Well Leicester obviously do not rate Gray that highly . He does seem a bit lazy ( reminds me of Julian Gray )

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
29-08-2017, 10:30 PM
I don't really know how good Gray is or isn't but I would have thought this deal is unlikely from the general things you hear about him.

However, if we do need to sell Townsend to raise funds then any deal that brings in a replacement seems a lot more palatable to me.

Stats74
29-08-2017, 10:31 PM
One...why would Leicester downgrade for an older, one-trick pony?
Two...and pay more on top?
Three...and Gray has much higher ambitions than playing for us (although he would play every week).
Four...and do a deal like that in a couple of days.

Would be fantastic signing. With a fit Zaha it would mean defenders would have two tricky forwards to hack at instead of one! They can share the burden!

Dave Hedgehog
29-08-2017, 10:31 PM
Well Leicester obviously do not rate Gray that highly . He does seem a bit black ( reminds me of Julian Gray )

EFA

exiledeagle
29-08-2017, 10:34 PM
ee

elgin eagle
29-08-2017, 10:36 PM
Kudos to Dougie if he pulls a deal like this off.

exiledeagle
29-08-2017, 10:37 PM
EFA

Why did you change my wording from lazy to black ????????????

eaglebhoy
29-08-2017, 10:42 PM
not likely but would be amazing though I like AT

Lombardo's hair
29-08-2017, 10:43 PM
Why pointless? 10m surplus on the deal. Neither player is worth the sums involved but I've given up on that aspect really.

Personally I think Gray is a really good player but there you go.

I think we would be foolish not to take it. Also it would guarantee Townsend getting back in the England squad. As he would no longer be a palace player

L'head Eagle
29-08-2017, 10:48 PM
not likely but would be amazing though I like AT


This. Gray could provide the trickery and balance missing since Bolasie, add in Benteke would be a devastating attack.

Shipp Ahoy!
29-08-2017, 10:51 PM
Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaaha!

Ha...

Not a chance!

Didn't they recently turn down 20m+ for Gray?

Stinger1
29-08-2017, 10:52 PM
Nah, pointless

You can't be serious? He might be better than Andros already and is a serious talent. He's probably as good as Wilf was at the same age. This would be a great deal.:lux::lux::lux:

eagles #1
29-08-2017, 10:55 PM
Did Craig Shakespeare work with Andros at England? Clearly rates him..

RisZero
29-08-2017, 10:59 PM
Didn't they recently turn down 20m+ for Gray?

This deal involves Townsend, not straight cash, so you have to factor in how much they want him

AddoWolz
29-08-2017, 11:04 PM
Mmmmmm. ........but can he play left side centre back ?

TWELLSEagle
29-08-2017, 11:12 PM
It's a hell yes from me

Supergrasser
29-08-2017, 11:13 PM
While at first glance this seems appealing, they are such different players. Amdros' work rate is next to none, and when it all goes tits up he'd be a lot more valuable than the flair and potential of Gray. It's difficult but just because of the position we're in, I'd keep AT.

elgin eagle
29-08-2017, 11:15 PM
I'm signing up for Palace player again if this happens.

costello
29-08-2017, 11:16 PM
Crazy to pay 10m plus Andros. He is largely unproven.

cpfcfan1
29-08-2017, 11:18 PM
Gray isn't even that good, were getting rid of a proven premier league player for one who barely isn't

RisZero
29-08-2017, 11:19 PM
Crazy to pay 10m plus Andros. He is largely unproven.

We are not paying the 10m in the rumour, we are getting it plus Gray

Martin H
29-08-2017, 11:23 PM
I'm signing up for Palace player again if this happens.

????

elgin eagle
29-08-2017, 11:39 PM
????

I miss paggis and shouty.

Martin H
29-08-2017, 11:45 PM
I miss paggis and shouty.

Ahhh the good old days :)

elgin eagle
29-08-2017, 11:49 PM
Ahhh the good old days :)

:)

Having a speech impediment was a bonus back then.

Stinger1
29-08-2017, 11:51 PM
Find it very difficult to believe the offer is 10 + Gray. Haven't they already rejected a 26m bid from Bournemouth? Perhaps they are desperate to get Andros, would be an amazing deal.

bigend1
29-08-2017, 11:59 PM
Find it very difficult to believe the offer is 10 + Gray. Haven't they already rejected a 26m bid from Bournemouth? Perhaps they are desperate to get Andros, would be an amazing deal.

I think that can be the only answer if it's true

We've said we won't take 27m simply because we haven't time to replace him now but shown an interest in gray.

They've said swap and we've said no because we're no better off really. Townsend knows us and is proven at least. Gray is potential

Due to the lack of time they've thrown 10m in so we can stretch for Sakho and aren't left short with Townsend going as gray is coming here.

They either really really want him when we're reluctant to sell and it's forced them to pay over the odds or its bullshit completely

Asagaya_Eagle
30-08-2017, 12:13 AM
I personally would!

:eek:

regal_eagle
30-08-2017, 12:14 AM
:)

Having a speech impediment was a bonus back then.

Didn't someone write in and ask him once, but he said it must be the mic :bash:


IF Leicester are offering 10 + Gray, are they valuing Gray at 15Mil? If so, we should be buying him outright and keeping Andros.

Chuck in Slimani and we can start talking turkey...Although we should just be buying him outright too.

Then all we need is a CB and GK and we're cotchin' in the Top 10, mofos! ...If we play 4 at the back.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
30-08-2017, 12:24 AM
Didn't someone write in and ask him once, but he said it must be the mic :bash:


IF Leicester are offering 10 + Gray, are they valuing Gray at 15Mil? If so, we should be buying him outright and keeping Andros.

Chuck in Slimani and we can start talking turkey...Although we should just be buying him outright too.

Then all we need is a CB and GK and we're cotchin' in the Top 10, mofos! ...If we play 4 at the back.

If it is true then yes they are valuing him at approx 15-17m, however it would also mean that they only value him at that amount if they can get Townsend. If it was a straight sale, I have no doubt he would cost a lot more. There is no way we could have both.

I still don't know if I believe the story but it is possible we have the power in this deal (just as Liverpool do with Sakho) because we have someone the other team actively wants - that immediately puts the cost up.

It's currently a sellers market and yet we are all desperate to buy.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
30-08-2017, 12:28 AM
Out of interest, if we do continue with three at the back, would Gray be any more suited to the right wing back role than Townsend? I really haven't seen him enough.

Or would we just assume he would play in the top 3? We don't seem to be linked to any other RWBs. Unless signing Sakho could mean TFM is moved there.

RisZero
30-08-2017, 12:33 AM
Out of interest, if we do continue with three at the back, would Gray be any more suited to the right wing back role than Townsend? I really haven't seen him enough.

Or would we just assume he would play in the top 3? We don't seem to be linked to any other RWBs. Unless signing Sakho could mean TFM is moved there.

Id expect Gray to be in the top 3 and I still think TFM will be pushed to RWB if Sakho comes in (I have no idea if TFM can even cross the ball or not, I just know he is fast and can defend so already cant be worse than Ward there)

I kind of expect Riedewald to be the central defender eventually (assuming FDB stays) given he likes to run the 433/343 system where when not defending someone from midfield drops back to make a back 3 (Riedewald) and the full back push up to become wing backs (essentially maximising the players available where the action is). Almost certainly why he was trying Luka as a CB in preseason.

Martin H
30-08-2017, 12:45 AM
Out of interest, if we do continue with three at the back, would Gray be any more suited to the right wing back role than Townsend? I really haven't seen him enough.

Or would we just assume he would play in the top 3? We don't seem to be linked to any other RWBs. Unless signing Sakho could mean TFM is moved there.

Whenever I have seen Gray he has looked dangerous both in terms of beating his man but also some powerful shooting. I would have thought he would fit the bill for a forward role. He has been starved of game time at Leicester but I am still bemused as to why?

Out of interest is Musa still there and at what price?

FromSelhurst
30-08-2017, 12:52 AM
Straight swap would be a great deal, Andros plus cash would be fair. To be the other way round is crazy. Get it done.

danpalace07
30-08-2017, 02:20 AM
Man this would be such a good deal

if it happens, thanks for your service Andros

sky dancer
30-08-2017, 03:42 AM
Hopefully they didn't see Andros' shooting on Saturday

CharlieCPFC
30-08-2017, 03:54 AM
If true we should be biting their hand off. Gray and Zaha on either flank gives us that traditional pacey Palace look. Benteke will thrive if the balls moved quicker up to him. Paired with Sakho at the back I can't help but feel this is the assemblance of a Freedman team.

Kai
30-08-2017, 04:51 AM
I'd do this deal in a heartbeat

BillyTKid
30-08-2017, 05:05 AM
It's the mirror. It won't be true. Doesn't sound likely to me at all.

TheCharmer1
30-08-2017, 05:33 AM
It's the mirror. It won't be true. Doesn't sound likely to me at all.


Seems hard to believe. Are we in a position to sell a proven first teamer for a player with potential ?

mb23
30-08-2017, 05:46 AM
A fantasy story. I assumed that Townsend would be the Mahrez replacement anyway, which would mean if they also gave us Gray they would be a winter down.

If this is true, which I doubt, I wonder why Leicester are letting Gray go. We know Townsend can be inconsistent, so I do wonder why they think he is a better option than Gray.

I think Townsend is probably better than Gray at the moment, although with Gray you are buying fabulous potential. Which De Boer should be able to fulfill if he somehow comes out the other side of this current mess.

Thefunkymonk
30-08-2017, 05:59 AM
A fantasy story. I assumed that Townsend would be the Mahrez replacement anyway, which would mean if they also gave us Gray they would be a winter down.

If this is true, which I doubt, I wonder why Leicester are letting Gray go. We know Townsend can be inconsistent, so I do wonder why they think he is a better option than Gray.

I think Townsend is probably better than Gray at the moment, although with Gray you are buying fabulous potential. Which De Boer should be able to fulfill if he somehow comes out the other side of this current mess.

I think Mahrez will stay tbh

1905
30-08-2017, 06:04 AM
A fantasy story. I assumed that Townsend would be the Mahrez replacement anyway, which would mean if they also gave us Gray they would be a winter down.

If this is true, which I doubt, I wonder why Leicester are letting Gray go. We know Townsend can be inconsistent, so I do wonder why they think he is a better option than Gray.

I think Townsend is probably better than Gray at the moment, although with Gray you are buying fabulous potential. Which De Boer should be able to fulfill if he somehow comes out the other side of this current mess.

Winter is coming....

Eagleinmk
30-08-2017, 06:30 AM
It's the mirror. It won't be true. Doesn't sound likely to me at all.


This basically!

Surely the Townsend interest is if either Mahrez or Drinkwater move in the next couple of days, they ain't going to sell Gray as well!

And if they did, surely Gray would want a move to a 'bigger' club? Reports earlier this month suggested Spurs were interested him!

Daily Mirror journalism at its best!

mylona
30-08-2017, 06:52 AM
Winter is coming....

The winter of our discontent. .....

PremierPalace
30-08-2017, 06:53 AM
Andros is one of our only bright players showing fight and desire. And he's really good. Why get rid?


Which he actually showed very little of against Huddersfield and Liverpool, and was subsequently slated for

elgin eagle
30-08-2017, 07:05 AM
I think that can be the only answer if it's true

We've said we won't take 27m simply because we haven't time to replace him now but shown an interest in gray.

They've said swap and we've said no because we're no better off really. Townsend knows us and is proven at least. Gray is potential

Due to the lack of time they've thrown 10m in so we can stretch for Sakho and aren't left short with Townsend going as gray is coming here.

They either really really want him when we're reluctant to sell and it's forced them to pay over the odds or its bullshit completely

Perfect assessment I reckon.

Dealing with Dougie now too. Then it's just down to Franks motivational skills and inspiring team talks.

Eagle's Nest
30-08-2017, 07:05 AM
Winter is coming....

The night is dark and full of terrors

ANTEAGLE
30-08-2017, 07:13 AM
I've just spoken to a Leicester fan, who has said Gray has had quite a few chances and struggles with his final ball. With Mahrez set to stay, Gray would only be on the bench, which he isn't happy about. They also have Musa who could cover for Mahrez.

Makes you wonder why they need Townsend?

tsunamiman
30-08-2017, 07:14 AM
The night is dark and full of terrors

Andros is a ladder.

Eagle's Nest
30-08-2017, 07:22 AM
We love a winger who struggles with a final ball.

Stavros 69
30-08-2017, 07:25 AM
This would be the deal of the summer.
In reality it's never going to happen, they turned down 20+ for Gray already this summer.
Never felt we've got the best from Dross and I never think we will, for some reason he just doesn't seem to fit.

I'd sell him and buy Gray and Niang in a heartbeat. That would give us some real pace up top.

Gathers54
30-08-2017, 07:32 AM
This would be the deal of the summer.
In reality it's never going to happen, they turned down 20+ for Gray already this summer.


Did they? From who? I thought Bournemouth denied making any such bid

Sceagle
30-08-2017, 07:50 AM
We love a winger who struggles with a final ball.

Townsend is hardly blessed with an incredible final ball. He crosses from everywhere and they usually suck.

Malarkey
30-08-2017, 08:00 AM
You can't be serious? He might be better than Andros already and is a serious talent. He's probably as good as Wilf was at the same age. This would be a great deal.:lux::lux::lux:

Oh dear...no he isn't.

exiledeagle
30-08-2017, 08:03 AM
Townsend is hardly blessed with an incredible final ball. He crosses from everywhere and they usually suck.

So get Gray instead who also has a hit and miss final ball and is rumoured not to have the best of work rate .

TopKnot
30-08-2017, 08:07 AM
When was the last time a player swap plus cash deal was done? Papers are always talking about how such and such 'could go the other way' as part of the deal but does it ever happen any more?

Skintagain
30-08-2017, 08:10 AM
No brainer as far as I'm concerned, at the moment we have 2 right wingers and one CF. Benteke gets injured Scott Dann is CF. The situation is ridiculous.
Something needs to happen quick.

There's a touch of the RLC about Gray, very good but can't get a sniff of a game due to the qulaity in front of him will almost certainly improve with regular play.

Zohar's Penalty
30-08-2017, 08:12 AM
That's a bonkers deal. Absolutely no chance that will get done.

teesdale99
30-08-2017, 08:17 AM
Looks like drinkwater is of to Chelsea so Townsend to Leicester could be more likely?

GreatGonzo
30-08-2017, 08:18 AM
I don't want "potential" atm tbh

He's quite good atm though

Gray 1 goal and 3 assists in 1000 minutes last season.
Townsend 3 goals 4 assists in 2500 minutes last season.

In comparison to Townsend i do not think we are losing anything short term and might be get much more in the longer term.

GreatGonzo
30-08-2017, 08:22 AM
Oh dear...no he isn't.

Same age was when Zaha was at Manure.

Following season he was 4 goals 2 assists from 2000 minutes. In terms of contribution to goals it is not unreasonable to compare them at a similar age.

However not sure Gray has the skill level of Zaha but certainly has a fair amount of potential.

gilesy14
30-08-2017, 08:23 AM
Don't want to lose Townsend but would be absolutely over the moon with this.

Malarkey
30-08-2017, 08:25 AM
Gray 1 goal and 3 assists in 1000 minutes last season.
Townsend 3 goals 4 assists in 2500 minutes last season.

In comparison to Townsend i do not think we are losing anything short term and might be get much more in the longer term.

Does Gray have the same workrate and attitude as Townsend? Doubt it

Malarkey
30-08-2017, 08:26 AM
Same age was when Zaha was at Manure.

Following season he was 4 goals 2 assists from 2000 minutes. In terms of contribution to goals it is not unreasonable to compare them at a similar age.

However not sure Gray has the skill level of Zaha but certainly has a fair amount of potential.

Gray will never be as good as Zaha. Wilf isn't near his peak yet.

mb23
30-08-2017, 08:27 AM
Does Gray have the same workrate and attitude as Townsend? Doubt it

Saw pretty pore work rate and attitude in the first half of the season. Get the sense Townsend puts in the work when he's in an environment that suits him. A different set up and he sulks. Might be wrong.

orp pisshead1
30-08-2017, 08:28 AM
Does Gray have the same workrate and attitude as Townsend? Doubt it

Agree with this and imo AT is the better winger still at the mo.

orp pisshead1
30-08-2017, 08:29 AM
Saw pretty pore work rate and attitude in the first half of the season. Get the sense Townsend puts in the work when he's in an environment that suits him. A different set up and he sulks. Might be wrong.

Probably some truth in that but let's be honest he was superb 2nd half of last season and done ok this season was easily our best player overall Saturday.

mb23
30-08-2017, 08:38 AM
Probably some truth in that but let's be honest he was superb 2nd half of last season and done ok this season was easily our best player overall Saturday.

Agreed re. last season. Unfortunately I wasn't able to go to Saturday's match.

orp pisshead1
30-08-2017, 08:41 AM
Agreed re. last season. Unfortunately I wasn't able to go to Saturday's match.

Cabaye played well when he came on and the kid on loan from the wankers did ok but Townsend was only one willing to try and create and put in another energetic shift:p. Seems like the team has no fight or heart now though imo:(.

ANTEAGLE
30-08-2017, 08:45 AM
Cabaye played well when he came on and the kid on loan from the wankers did ok but Townsend was only one willing to try and create and put in another energetic shift:p. Seems like the team has no fight or heart now though imo:(.

No heart? Two words. Wilf Zaha. Can't wait for him to come back.

Malarkey
30-08-2017, 08:51 AM
So, the deal mentioned in the OP is clearly bollocks.

It'll probably turn out that we've offered 10m + Townsend for Gray. Joke.

montstar
30-08-2017, 08:53 AM
Townsend may have put an 'good shift in on saturday' but there were countless times when he shot when a better ball was on and he didnt hit the target once. He had a decent second half last year but if as is the rumour hes one of our highest earners, this is an amazing deal and makes other deals possible.

Get it done, quickly!!! A) so they dont change their mind and B) so we can do more deals!

mushroom
30-08-2017, 08:54 AM
Wilf run his nuts off last season and put in good performance after good performance and he did this while earning 20k a week LESS than Sako.
That's character. AT is prone to sulking... he puts in effort when he feels like it.
That's the difference between a player that is Palace born n bred and a player that isn't.

Malarkey
30-08-2017, 08:55 AM
Wilf run his nuts off last season and put in good performance after good performance and he did this while earning 20k a week LESS than Sako.
That's character. AT is prone to sulking... he puts in effort when he feels like it.
That's the difference between a player that is Palace born n bred and a player that isn't.

Well, Gray isn't Palace born n bred, so... ;)

Lprkorngod
30-08-2017, 08:56 AM
Saw pretty pore work rate and attitude in the first half of the season. Get the sense Townsend puts in the work when he's in an environment that suits him. A different set up and he sulks. Might be wrong.

Forget how much the players are paid to be professional, confidence in the team/manager/formation is massively underrated - its a hell of a lot easier running/tracking back when you believe you can win the game.

watching your defenders give away goals must be soul destroying. As soon as Big sam sorted out our defense last season, Townsend was able to do what he does best.

gilesy14
30-08-2017, 08:56 AM
Several sources have now dismissed this. Oh well - it was nice whilst it lasted...

SJ'sLoveMonkey
30-08-2017, 08:57 AM
Leicester have said they won't trade Gray so that's dead in the water

PremierPalace
30-08-2017, 08:57 AM
When was the last time a player swap plus cash deal was done? Papers are always talking about how such and such 'could go the other way' as part of the deal but does it ever happen any more?


Often they're technically separate deals but are intertwined. Rooney to Everton for 10m was effectively knocked off the Lukaku price and was seen as a part-exchange.

Nigelbrag
30-08-2017, 09:14 AM
It's probably all nonsense just paper talk, but if this happens 10m plus Gray aged 21 and value only going up? how can anybody complain about it not being a good deal.
Why not go the whole way and bring in Troy Deeney alongside Benteke and with Gray and Zaha on the wings in a 4-4-2 instead of persisting with a system that is only going to be leading us in ONE Direction (not the group) hopefully.
Just put this 3-4-3 which we cant seem to come to terms with as our current record shows, admit defeat and bin it before we get ourselves into deeper trouble. And if FdB cant accept change is needed then move him on as i think he will find it hard to get the players back on his side after his comments on tv.
This is what i would like to see, but i accept it wont happen due to the way we think and play, one thing is it would be exciting to watch and sure to see goals, also to strengthen the midfield squad with cover bring in Delph if Cabaye was to leave.

----------------------------------------Vorm-------------------------------------------

-----------Fosu-Mensah--------------Dann--------------Sakho-------------Schlupp----------

----------Zaha---------------Luka------------Loftus-Cheek-------------Gray-----------------

-------------------------------Deeney-------Benteke---------------------------------

Nigelbrag
30-08-2017, 09:14 AM
It's probably all nonsense just paper talk, but if this happens 10m plus Gray aged 21 and value only going up? how can anybody complain about it not being a good deal.
Why not go the whole way and bring in Troy Deeney alongside Benteke and with Gray and Zaha on the wings in a 4-4-2 instead of persisting with a system that is only going to be leading us in ONE Direction (not the group) hopefully.
Just put this 3-4-3 which we cant seem to come to terms with as our current record shows, admit defeat and bin it before we get ourselves into deeper trouble. And if FdB cant accept change is needed then move him on as i think he will find it hard to get the players back on his side after his comments on tv.
This is what i would like to see, but i accept it wont happen due to the way we think and play, one thing is it would be exciting to watch and sure to see goals, also to strengthen the midfield squad with cover bring in Delph if Cabaye was to leave.

----------------------------------------Vorm-------------------------------------------

-----------Fosu-Mensah--------------Dann--------------Sakho-------------Schlupp----------

----------Zaha---------------Luka------------Loftus-Cheek-------------Gray-----------------

-------------------------------Deeney-------Benteke---------------------------------

BBK
30-08-2017, 09:25 AM
We would get ****ed defensively playing that. You can't play Gray as a wing back and 2 strikers.

Actually I have 0 idea what that formation is tbh.

Eagle's Nest
30-08-2017, 09:26 AM
I don't doubt it being an ambition. I just don't think Leicester will want to make it happen as the deal seems too good for Palace.

gilesy14
30-08-2017, 09:41 AM
Where the f*ck have you plucked Deeney from?!

mb23
30-08-2017, 09:42 AM
We would get ****ed defensively playing that. You can't play Gray as a wing back and 2 strikers.

Actually I have 0 idea what that formation is tbh.

Quite clearly a 4-4-2, as he said?

Won't happen, and Gray isn't joining.

wrightchipvcfc
30-08-2017, 10:05 AM
Bournmouth showing interest in gray

Crunchie
30-08-2017, 10:08 AM
Bournmouth showing interest in gray

They have been all summer. Had a 20m bid rejected weeks ago.

Nigelbrag
30-08-2017, 10:24 AM
Where the f*ck have you plucked Deeney from?!

Obviously Watford;)
Reports say he is unhappy and would consider a move, what is there not to like about him? can play a lone striker role if necessary, or alongside/off a main striker and scores goals which we desperately need, is that not someone we could do with? and with just ONE striker to call on currently, surely You can see the need.

SilentAssassin
30-08-2017, 10:25 AM
Spurs are now apparently in for him.

Nigelbrag
30-08-2017, 10:41 AM
We would get ****ed defensively playing that. You can't play Gray as a wing back and 2 strikers.

Actually I have 0 idea what that formation is tbh.

Please do read carefully before commenting as it clearly states 4-4-2, as for it Not working just think back to when Leicester ran away with the premiership just last year, and with that very same system.
Just ask yourself this simple question, is what we are playing remotely working and are the players comfortable doing so? maybe a change is needed, and that was my point.

DARZET EAGLE
30-08-2017, 10:49 AM
Spurs are now apparently in for him.

Leicester will keep him, unless a rediculous offer is made, which will fund Mahrez' replacement.

SilentAssassin
30-08-2017, 10:49 AM
Leicester will keep him, unless a rediculous offer is made, which will fund Mahrez' replacement.

Sky Italia reporting that Spurs have bid 25million for him.

DARZET EAGLE
30-08-2017, 10:51 AM
Please do read carefully before commenting as it clearly states 4-4-2, as for it Not working just think back to when Leicester ran away with the premiership just last year, and with that very same system.
Just ask yourself this simple question, is what we are playing remotely working and are the players comfortable doing so? maybe a change is needed, and that was my point.

I generally agree with your point's Nigel and this is no exception.

dannyb1
30-08-2017, 10:52 AM
From what I see of him last season he looked good, pacey and tricky so would work well in our wing style of play.
Plus the 10 mill would go well towards the Sakho deal.

DARZET EAGLE
30-08-2017, 10:54 AM
From what I see of him last season he looked good, pacey and tricky so would work well in our wing style of play.
Plus the 10 mill would go well towards the Sakho deal.

Leicester are not interested in a deal, and according to Townsend are not after him.

Stinger1
30-08-2017, 10:56 AM
From what I see of him last season he looked good, pacey and tricky so would work well in our wing style of play.
Plus the 10 mill would go well towards the Sakho deal.

I think the Gray + 10m was our counter offer. Given the offers for Gray really don't see Leicester going for even a straight swap deal.

Mictor Voses
30-08-2017, 10:59 AM
We would get ****ed defensively playing that. You can't play Gray as a wing back and 2 strikers.

Actually I have 0 idea what that formation is tbh.

Who cares about getting fuc*ed defensively? As long as our style evolves...

BBK
30-08-2017, 12:28 PM
Quite clearly a 4-4-2, as he said?

Won't happen, and Gray isn't joining.

Why would you pay 30m for Sakho and then play him LB, play a LB RB and someone that can play RB CB. Am I missing something?

Apparently my phone misshaped your formation. I take it back, you are a tactical genius.

https://preview.ibb.co/kaYMU5/Screenshot_20170830_133028.png

jamieb73
30-08-2017, 12:46 PM
how is Gray better for FDB than Townsend? Does he have experience of playing for him or overseas, or playing in a 344 formation? I don't get why he would be a better player than what we have now?

RisZero
30-08-2017, 12:50 PM
how is Gray better for FDB than Townsend? Does he have experience of playing for him or overseas, or playing in a 344 formation? I don't get why he would be a better player than what we have now?

He probably hasnt played in an illegal formation no

SeaEagle
30-08-2017, 12:51 PM
He probably hasnt played in an illegal formation no

Rush goalie

penguin7
30-08-2017, 12:53 PM
I would be happy with a straight swap of Gray for Townsend, 10m on top is far too good to be true.
But do Leicester want to sell him at all, and if they did why would the player want to come to our club with FDB at the helm ?
His strength is playing out wide, and he is great at cutting in and shooting from either flank. So where is the place for him in Franks 3-4-3 ? Playing RWB would simply blunt his talent, and the second striker role needs someone who would play closer to Benteke.
If he is for sale he will surely want to go to Spurs, who have proper attacking fullbacks and allow their offensive players like Alli and Son freedom to roam

SJ'sLoveMonkey
30-08-2017, 12:56 PM
Leicester have said they have no interest in letting Gray go.

ebyeeckeagle
30-08-2017, 12:57 PM
how is Gray better for FDB than Townsend? Does he have experience of playing for him or overseas, or playing in a 344 formation? I don't get why he would be a better player than what we have now?

Tbf, we would have to pay a premium for experience in a 3-4-4.

The substantive question? He's possibly as good as AT now - so any extra cash would be a bonus. But only possibly, which is a gamble. The truth is, AT is a fairly limited player, who nonetheless has some strengths which we can play to in the right set up.
Gray is no different really, but could be more.

My worry, well, many people's worry, is that we sell but don't get in anyone remotely as good. Not sure where that cynicism comes from!

regal_eagle
30-08-2017, 01:01 PM
how is Gray better for FDB than Townsend? Does he have experience of playing for him or overseas, or playing in a 344 formation? I don't get why he would be a better player than what we have now?

Who needs a Goalie?!

RisZero
31-08-2017, 08:31 AM
25m rejected - Bmouth

AJ's right boot
31-08-2017, 08:44 AM
Bournemouth laughing on the face of FFP. Sigghhh.

Lombardo's hair
31-08-2017, 08:52 AM
Bournemouth laughing on the face of FFP. Sigghhh.

Yeah god old little Bournemouth plucky little club. Everyone's second team.
It is like the owners of City taking them over and throwing money around like confetti. Just because they have a ground the size of a shoebox doesn't make the a little club. If you have enough money Sutton United could be in prem in 5 years.

GreatGonzo
31-08-2017, 08:57 AM
Bournemouths ground has very little to do with it. Like us the vast majority of clubs income is fron TV money.

On here people throw accusations of breaching FFP around without any reasoning behind it like it is confetti!

The did breach Football League FFP and paid the fine when they were promoted though.

Lombardo's hair
31-08-2017, 09:47 AM
Bournemouths ground has very little to do with it. Like us the vast majority of clubs income is fron TV money.

On here people throw accusations of breaching FFP around without any reasoning behind it like it is confetti!

The did breach Football League FFP and paid the fine when they were promoted though.

So what you are saying is they have more income thsn we do and their wage bill is no bigger than ours. And just to clear things up I was referring to how media describes them. They aren't a club that survives on a shoestring. They are big spenders who have surprisingly it seems more resources than we do. Just saying that it's irksome how media refer to them. The same way that anything United or Liverpool do is greeled with such excitement it's like a kid on Christmas morning. The coverage of Zlatan staying at United was gut churning

peterg
31-08-2017, 10:37 AM
SSN suggests he's heading to Bournemouth

RisZero
31-08-2017, 03:42 PM
SSN - Leicester want 40m for Gray :D

DARZET EAGLE
31-08-2017, 03:44 PM
SSN - Leicester want 40m for Gray :D

Unbelievable, but it is Sky Sports.:rolleyes:

SEEPEEEFFSEE
31-08-2017, 03:44 PM
Jeeeeeeeeez

GreatGonzo
31-08-2017, 03:49 PM
SSN - Leicester want 40m for Gray :D

Its still 17m+Gray for Townsned though :D

Stavros 69
31-08-2017, 03:52 PM
Mutch+ Chungy+ Sako + Townsend = Gray + 17m

PauLo
31-08-2017, 03:54 PM
Leicester are jokers.

DARZET EAGLE
31-08-2017, 03:58 PM
Leicester are jokers.

More likely astute, ask for 40m take 30 plus add on's.