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Dedders
01-09-2017, 11:35 AM
Excuse the ignorance but what hope is there still of getting a striker?
How long do we have to get (1) a free agent and (2) a loan from abroad?
What are our best options in each case?

SEEPEEEFFSEE
01-09-2017, 11:37 AM
I was wondering the same thing. Could we go back and try and get Tosun on loan?

SilentAssassin
01-09-2017, 11:38 AM
I was wondering the same thing. Could we go back and try and get Tosun on loan?

Can't make loans outside of the transfer window only free agents can be included if you have gaps in your 25.

Dedders
01-09-2017, 11:39 AM
So no loans
Do we have a gap for a free agent?

SilentAssassin
01-09-2017, 11:43 AM
So no loans
Do we have a gap for a free agent?

Possibly. If Wickham has an injury that takes him out till the next transfer window then yes we have 1 squad place.

If we pay off players then I guess we could create more space like making Kleton Perntreou, Jordon Mutch, or Damien Delaney as they are players I would imagine are surplus to requirements.

teesdale99
01-09-2017, 11:46 AM
Can a player or third party buy out a contract making them a free agent? Probably a good question for bfs

Friskey
01-09-2017, 11:49 AM
Possibly. If Wickham has an injury that takes him out till the next transfer window then yes we have 1 squad place.

If we pay off players then I guess we could create more space like making Kleton Perntreou, Jordon Mutch, or Damien Delaney as they are players I would imagine are surplus to requirements.

That's not how it works. We can sign free agents before we name the squad and leave people out of the 25 (if we have more than 25 players).

I don't think you can release anyone after the deadline either.

Dedders
01-09-2017, 11:50 AM
Don't think that is allowed

Ralph
01-09-2017, 11:57 AM
Remember Escape to Victory? Maybe Hennessy will put himself forward in-order to free up a space in the squad.

montstar
01-09-2017, 11:58 AM
We can get free agents - exactly what we did last year with Flamini, unless the laws have changed since...

Eagle's Nest
01-09-2017, 11:59 AM
Chamakh anyone?

SilentAssassin
01-09-2017, 12:01 PM
That's not how it works. We can sign free agents before we name the squad and leave people out of the 25 (if we have more than 25 players).

I don't think you can release anyone after the deadline either.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/new-premier-league-25-man-squad-3349993

Wrong. If you have 25 contracted players they must be named and can't be left out of the squad. The only thing that permits them not to be included is if they have an injury that prevents them from playing during that period/season.

Spindle
01-09-2017, 12:01 PM
Why the hell we didn't go in for Jansenn from Spurs i'll never know

Tim
01-09-2017, 12:03 PM
Remember Escape to Victory? Maybe Hennessy will put himself forward in-order to free up a space in the squad.

:supergrin:

Eagle's Nest
01-09-2017, 12:03 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/new-premier-league-25-man-squad-3349993

Wrong. If you have 25 contracted players they must be named and can't be left out of the squad. The only thing that permits them not to be included is if they have an injury that prevents them from playing during that period/season.

Florian Blancmange?

SilentAssassin
01-09-2017, 12:04 PM
Last season we had a space free so we could include Flamini in our 25, which I suspect will happen this time around as Wickham has an injury that will see him out till January, giving us 1 space in the 25 we can fill with a free agent.

Friskey
01-09-2017, 12:06 PM
Last season we had a space free so we could include Flamini in our 25, which I suspect will happen this time around as Wickham has an injury that will see him out till January, giving us 1 space in the 25 we can fill with a free agent.

Again, that's not how it works.

You have to name someone if they're injured unless you have more than 25 then you can pick who you leave out. The only way we can sign a free agent is if it's before the 25 is named. If it's not Wickham has to be named.

mroakley9
01-09-2017, 12:08 PM
Chamakh anyone?

:love::love::love::love:

Friskey
01-09-2017, 12:08 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/new-premier-league-25-man-squad-3349993

Wrong. If you have 25 contracted players they must be named and can't be left out of the squad. The only thing that permits them not to be included is if they have an injury that prevents them from playing during that period/season.

Where does it mention injuries?

SilentAssassin
01-09-2017, 12:15 PM
Again, that's not how it works.

You have to name someone if they're injured unless you have more than 25 then you can pick who you leave out. The only way we can sign a free agent is if it's before the 25 is named. If it's not Wickham has to be named.

He's not eligible if he is injured so we can leave him out. Maybe you are right about signing a free agent before the 25 man squad list is submitted however, we signed Flamini on the 8th September last season and announced our 25 man squad on the 1st.

Friskey
01-09-2017, 12:16 PM
He's not eligible if he is injured so we can leave him out. Maybe you are right about signing a free agent before the 25 man squad list is submitted however, we signed Flamini on the 8th September last season and announced our 25 man squad on the 1st.

Nah if they're injured they still have to be named.

You can only sign someone after the 25 if you have less then 25 players contracted (which we don't). We can sign as many as we want before the 25 is named.

SilentAssassin
01-09-2017, 12:18 PM
Where does it mention injuries?

Few players have found themselves in the situation outlined about without good cause since Rule L1 was introduced. During the 2010/11 season, Jonathan Woodgate (Tottenham Hotspur FC), Michael Kightly (Wolverhampton Wanderers FC) and Mamady Sidebe (Stoke City FC) were all not included in their respective squads, but all had long term injury problems.

https://www.lawinsport.com/articles/contract-law/item/the-25-man-squad-rule-what-happens-to-the-26th-man

eddieskyclad
01-09-2017, 12:24 PM
If a player is likely to be injured for the entire duration of the squad registration window (so between today the day the transfer window reopens in January) then surely it could be argued that player is not eligible?

Reg_Maudling
01-09-2017, 12:25 PM
Why the hell we didn't go in for Jansenn from Spurs i'll never know

And he's dutch

henryhallandhisbasque
01-09-2017, 12:30 PM
You'd think they'd be working on that very thing now. Then again, they've had weeks to work on getting one and nothing came of it, so it makes you doubt they are now. The crusade to get Sakho (welcome as it is) seems to have been the number one priority. I'd agree totally with that tactic if he also played as a goalkeeper and a striker as well as a defender, but he doesn't. I was wondering who goes in goal if our two keepers are both injured? Is it Parish?

Windsor_Eagle
01-09-2017, 12:40 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/new-premier-league-25-man-squad-3349993

Wrong. If you have 25 contracted players they must be named and can't be left out of the squad. The only thing that permits them not to be included is if they have an injury that prevents them from playing during that period/season.

Indeed - Wickham will not, therefore, be included. There is the possibility of a free agent coming in (if there is one out there that is an option).

Langers
01-09-2017, 12:41 PM
I am available - just thought I would put that out there - I've already got the away shirt

Windsor_Eagle
01-09-2017, 12:41 PM
If a player is likely to be injured for the entire duration of the squad registration window (so between today the day the transfer window reopens in January) then surely it could be argued that player is not eligible?

Exactly.

AddoWolz
01-09-2017, 12:47 PM
If a player is likely to be injured for the entire duration of the squad registration window (so between today the day the transfer window reopens in January) then surely it could be argued that player is not eligible?

You could be referring to Sakho there .

AddoWolz
01-09-2017, 12:50 PM
I am available - just thought I would put that out there - I've already got the away shirt

You need boots or gloves , pick up point is Sainsburys car park Sunday week , your in .

Crunchie
01-09-2017, 12:50 PM
Giuseppe Rossi?

AddoWolz
01-09-2017, 12:51 PM
Anyway is anybody at the club even aware that we NEED A STRIKER ,AAAAAAGGGGGG.

rambo1
01-09-2017, 12:56 PM
After Loaning out,Jon Williams,there are 2 Spaces,in the Players that Need to be Named.
So Space,for 2 Free Agents,Goal-Keeper & Striker.
Alternatively Recall,Keshi Anderson,from his Loan.
As previously Stated the Closure of the Loan window,to the Football League,after the Transfer window Closes,
makes it Harder to avoid Unnecessary wages.

Adlerhorst
01-09-2017, 01:18 PM
Anyway is anybody at the club even aware that we NEED A STRIKER ,AAAAAAGGGGGG.

I would imagine they are desperately aware. I would also imagine they are trying extremely hard to sign the least shite free agent striker on the market before we have to name the 25 man squad

swissroll
01-09-2017, 01:33 PM
This striker thing is overrated - Barcelona managed without a recognised number 9 quite successfully for a while. FdB will sort this out for us

Chas
01-09-2017, 03:20 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/new-premier-league-25-man-squad-3349993

Wrong. If you have 25 contracted players they must be named and can't be left out of the squad. The only thing that permits them not to be included is if they have an injury that prevents them from playing during that period/season.

Do you have a source for that long term injury rule? I can't find it anywhere.

I also can't find evidence from our own club, as we had more than 25 players available when Souare and Wickham were out last January.

Eagle's Nest
01-09-2017, 03:21 PM
Giuseppe Rossi?

Cruciate injury.

Plus he's not Chamakh

SilentAssassin
01-09-2017, 03:29 PM
Do you have a source for that long term injury rule? I can't find it anywhere.

I also can't find evidence from our own club, as we had more than 25 players available when Souare and Wickham were out last January.

http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showpost.php?p=13820683&postcount=22

Chas
01-09-2017, 03:37 PM
https://www.lawinsport.com/articles/contract-law/item/the-25-man-squad-rule-what-happens-to-the-26th-man

That source is five years old, and doesn't reflect the current FL rules (for example, Section L isn't even about squads anymore; it's about fixture scheduling).

In addition, the three player examples you mentioned don't apply to us, because all three of those clubs named full 25 man squads, and the injured players represented the 26th player on their rosters.

Tottenham named a 25 man squad:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308175/Tottenham-Hotspur-25-man-Premier-League-squad-2010-11.html

Stoke named a 25 man squad:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308172/Stoke-City-25-man-Premier-League-squad-2010-11.html

Wolves named a 25 man squad:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308183/Wolverhampton-Wanderers-squad-2010-11.html

I'm looking at the EPL handbook now, and I'll report back if I see anything significant.

If you have an example of a player being left out due to injury, and the club submitting a 24 man squad as a result, by all means provide it. But your post really tells us nothing that we need to know about our situation.

Kai
01-09-2017, 03:40 PM
Naming long term injured players makes no sense even if sense and the FA don't mix....

SICHDA
01-09-2017, 03:43 PM
Free agents are free agents for a reason

Chillo
01-09-2017, 03:44 PM
Again, that's not how it works.

You have to name someone if they're injured unless you have more than 25 then you can pick who you leave out. The only way we can sign a free agent is if it's before the 25 is named. If it's not Wickham has to be named.

That's not how I understand it works; Watford left out a newly-acquired player who was injured last year.

Ooh Betty
01-09-2017, 03:45 PM
Plenty of time. What's the rush?

This site is full of pant wetters.

One striker is plenty for the next few seasons. That's why we have invested elsewhere in a rwb, goalkeeper and cover for Wilf.

Remember where we were 8 years ago and be thankful we still have a team to support.

Reg_Maudling
01-09-2017, 03:47 PM
Plenty of time. What's the rush?

This site is full of pant wetters.

One striker is plenty for the next few seasons. That's why we have invested elsewhere in a rwb, goalkeeper and cover for Wilf.

Remember where we were 8 years ago and be thankful we still have a team to support.

and you should add, if we get relegated so be it

Chillo
01-09-2017, 03:47 PM
That source is five years old, and doesn't reflect the current FL rules (for example, Section L isn't even about squads anymore; it's about fixture scheduling).

In addition, the three player examples you mentioned don't apply to us, because all three of those clubs named full 25 man squads, and the injured players represented the 26th player on their rosters.

Tottenham named a 25 man squad:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308175/Tottenham-Hotspur-25-man-Premier-League-squad-2010-11.html

Stoke named a 25 man squad:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308172/Stoke-City-25-man-Premier-League-squad-2010-11.html

Wolves named a 25 man squad:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308183/Wolverhampton-Wanderers-squad-2010-11.html

I'm looking at the EPL handbook now, and I'll report back if I see anything significant.

If you have an example of a player being left out due to injury, and the club submitting a 24 man squad as a result, by all means provide it. But your post really tells us nothing that we need to know about our situation.

http://cpfc.org/forums/showpost.php?p=13820416&postcount=14

Chas
01-09-2017, 03:52 PM
That's not how I understand it works; Watford left out a newly-acquired player who was injured last year.

EDIT: Nope, still doesn't apply to us! Turns out, Watford only had 5 home grown players (see premierleague.com link below), and that is why they left 3 spaces in their squad.

The player was Brice Dja Djedje. He was signed in the summer of 2016, and had a foot injury that left him out until January.
http://www.90min.com/posts/4390399-watford-s-brice-dja-djedje-happy-with-debut-for-hornets-after-spell-out-with-injury

Watford did not name him in their 25 man squad, and they only named 22 other players (being forced to leave three spaces due to only having 5 home grown players to name):
https://www.premierleague.com/news/84136 (scroll down)

EDIT EDIT: And someone just confirmed that in the post below me :)

mroakley9
01-09-2017, 03:53 PM
http://cpfc.org/forums/showpost.php?p=13820416&postcount=14

That Watford example reads like they had to leave a foreigner out because they can only have so many and so they couldn't have named him even if they wanted to (or they could've named him and left someone else out, but that wouldn't really make sense).

Chillo
01-09-2017, 04:25 PM
That Watford example reads like they had to leave a foreigner out because they can only have so many and so they couldn't have named him even if they wanted to (or they could've named him and left someone else out, but that wouldn't really make sense).

I was commenting more on the fact that he was injured and therefore left out; yes I see they had too many non-home-grown players as well, but the principle of not including an injured player was also an issue.

Eaglefoz
01-09-2017, 04:53 PM
Nah if they're injured they still have to be named.

You can only sign someone after the 25 if you have less then 25 players contracted (which we don't). We can sign as many as we want before the 25 is named.

Which means we can sign up players on a free. They are then contracted. We then decide on who we put in the 25

Chas
01-09-2017, 05:08 PM
I was commenting more on the fact that he was injured and therefore left out; yes I see they had too many non-home-grown players as well, but the principle of not including an injured player was also an issue.

No, it wasn't. If he weren't injured, they would have still been forced to leave him (or another foreign player) out.

More likely scenario in Watford's case: He signed on 6 July, was injured on 20 July, and they knew they could only register 22 players, so they bought a 23rd player before the window closed knowing that it would be easy to choose which player to leave out (the injured one). If he had not been injured, they wouldn't have made that last signing, or else risk pissing off one player.

What is going to happen is one of two things:
1) We register Wickham and we all feel stupid for even discussing it, and angry that his replacement wasn't sorted out, or
2) The club tries to leave him out of the squad, and the FA/FIFA has some new case law to work on, as there is no precedent for this situation.

Looking at past windows, the squad lists are generally made public two days after the end of the window, so we will find out what happens tomorrow.

Pikie Punisher
01-09-2017, 05:10 PM
You need boots or gloves , pick up point is Sainsburys car park Sunday week , your in .

Will I do sweetie?

http://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7f/9e/8c/7f9e8c8f69c93cc96cf1458a99708713.jpg

CPFC85
01-09-2017, 05:17 PM
If there is one space remaining in the 25 then Chamakh please.

SilentAssassin
01-09-2017, 06:09 PM
That source is five years old, and doesn't reflect the current FL rules (for example, Section L isn't even about squads anymore; it's about fixture scheduling).

In addition, the three player examples you mentioned don't apply to us, because all three of those clubs named full 25 man squads, and the injured players represented the 26th player on their rosters.

Tottenham named a 25 man squad:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308175/Tottenham-Hotspur-25-man-Premier-League-squad-2010-11.html

Stoke named a 25 man squad:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308172/Stoke-City-25-man-Premier-League-squad-2010-11.html

Wolves named a 25 man squad:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308183/Wolverhampton-Wanderers-squad-2010-11.html

I'm looking at the EPL handbook now, and I'll report back if I see anything significant.

If you have an example of a player being left out due to injury, and the club submitting a 24 man squad as a result, by all means provide it. But your post really tells us nothing that we need to know about our situation.

Well we will see once the squads come out. I don't see how a player is eligible if they are injured which is clearly stated in the rules. Previous versions of the rule as you state, point towards players not having to be named if they have a long term injury. I don't see why that would be any different to a club who can name 24 players or 47.

AJ
01-09-2017, 06:33 PM
If there is one space remaining in the 25 then Chamakh please.
Let's hope not. Only made 2 sub apps for Cardiff in 3 months. Been without a club for 8 months.

DARZET EAGLE
01-09-2017, 09:47 PM
If there is one space remaining in the 25 then Chamakh please.

That particular ship sailed a long time ago.

Langers
02-09-2017, 12:15 AM
Will I do sweetie?

http://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7f/9e/8c/7f9e8c8f69c93cc96cf1458a99708713.jpg

:lux:

Hudds Eagle
02-09-2017, 12:25 AM
I know he's not the player he was but is Rickie Lambert worth a punt?

theCoach
02-09-2017, 06:51 AM
I know he's not the player he was but is Rickie Lambert worth a punt?

Good call. What makes you think that he's either fit or a free agent?

SJ'sLoveMonkey
02-09-2017, 06:54 AM
Good call. What makes you think that he's either fit or a free agent?

Because he is on the list? :confused:

16eagles
02-09-2017, 06:54 AM
Dani Osvaldo could be good. Lambert is on free.

theCoach
02-09-2017, 06:55 AM
Because he is on the list? :confused:

Thanks done my own research and he is

Adlerhorst
02-09-2017, 07:06 AM
Dani Osvaldo could be good.
Sums up his career really.

Could be good, if he wasn't such an arse.

aashman12
02-09-2017, 07:22 AM
Chamakh anyone?

Nope

aashman12
02-09-2017, 07:23 AM
And he's dutch

Because they want 23m for him

spt1978
02-09-2017, 07:30 AM
Lambert, Chamakh, Osvaldo :D we are ****ed.

CharlieCPFC
02-09-2017, 07:59 AM
We had so many opportunities for a cheap £3-4M striker even in the summer who'd have provided good cover. Depoitre and Cornelius both made moves for £3.5M in the summer and both would have been very decent backup for Benteke.

gold76
02-09-2017, 08:40 AM
I'd take Lambert tbh, experienced and a bit of nous

Worksop Palace
02-09-2017, 08:49 AM
Good god this thread is depressing.

Are we really in our 5th season in the top league and scraping the barrel for a striker who isn't attached to a club

Jesus f'kin wept

Lombardo 888
02-09-2017, 09:09 AM
We only have 24 in our squad with 14 home grown. That means we can add a free agent to the squad any time.......doesn't it?

Nigelbrag
02-09-2017, 09:35 AM
The suggestion of Lambert is that a serious one? Ah now i get it, it's Paul Lambert people are thinking of.
I believe Billericay Town tried but then decided against it, so why not Palace.

steve hail
02-09-2017, 09:53 AM
Bizarrely, Marouane Chamakh is probably the best unattached forward out there.

St.AlbansEagle
02-09-2017, 09:57 AM
He really isn't

steve hail
02-09-2017, 10:05 AM
He really isn't

Who is then? At least he could do it once. Probably better off as we are then.

CP-RJW
02-09-2017, 10:39 AM
Who is then? At least he could do it once. Probably better off as we are then.
That Diabate bloke is apparently decent.

mroakley9
02-09-2017, 10:43 AM
That Diabate bloke is apparently decent.

Yeah but has Diabate scored in 6 consecutive Champions League matches before?

CP-RJW
02-09-2017, 10:45 AM
Yeah but has Diabate scored in 6 consecutive Champions League matches before?
Fair point, neither has Ronaldo or Messi. Chamakh>Ronaldo and Messi.

mroakley9
02-09-2017, 10:46 AM
Fair point, neither has Ronaldo or Messi. Chamakh>Ronaldo and Messi.

Correct

steve hail
02-09-2017, 11:01 AM
That Diabate bloke is apparently decent.

Interesting.

New LP
02-09-2017, 11:10 AM
Plenty of time. What's the rush?



This site is full of pant wetters.



One striker is plenty for the next few seasons. That's why we have invested elsewhere in a rwb, goalkeeper and cover for Wilf.



Remember where we were 8 years ago and be thankful we still have a team to support.


You forgot that there's always Sully Kai Kai the Lionel Messi of south London. And anyone who suggests otherwise is being negative, entitled and should go and support Chelsea.

Jim Cannon
02-09-2017, 11:17 AM
Bizarrely, Marouane Chamakh is probably the best unattached forward out there.

He is completely shot due to injuries

Chas
02-09-2017, 05:53 PM
Well we will see once the squads come out. I don't see how a player is eligible if they are injured which is clearly stated in the rules. Previous versions of the rule as you state, point towards players not having to be named if they have a long term injury. I don't see why that would be any different to a club who can name 24 players or 47.

Wickham is in. We still managed to have a space open by leaving out Kleton Perntreou, despite no one being able to confirm that he has gone to another club or had his contract cancelled.

https://www.premierleague.com/news/465277

Crystal Palace (*=Home grown)
1. Benteke, Christian
2. Cabaye, Yohan
3. Dann, Scott*
4. Delaney, Damien Finbarr
5. Hennessey, Wayne Robert*
6. Kaikai, Sulaiman Borbor*
7. Kelly, Martin Ronald*
8. Ladapo, Olayinka Fredrick Oladotun*
9. Lee, Chung Yong
10. McArthur, James
11. Milivojevic, Luka
12. Mutch, Jordon James Edward Sydney*
13. Puncheon, Jason David Ian*
14. Sakho, Mamadou
15. Sako, Bakary
16. Schlupp, Jeffrey*
17. Souare, Pape N'Diaye
18. Speroni, Julian Maria
19. Tomkins, James Oliver Charles*
20. Townsend, Andros*
21. Van Aanholt, Patrick John Miguel*
22. Ward, Joel Edward Philip*
23. Wickham, Connor Neil Ralph*
24. Zaha, Dazet Wilfried Armel*

Under-21 players (Contract and Scholars)
Berkeley-Agyepong, Jacob Kwame
Boateng, David Nketiah
Boateng, Hiram Kojo Kwarteng
Brown, Tyler
Bryon, Lewis
Coates, Liam
Coker, Andre Jordan Coleridge
Daly, James Stanley
Demby, Andrew
Donkin, William Rupert James
Douglas, Kie
Dreher, Luke Garry
Elliott, Christopher Tchanga
Eyenga Lokilo, Jason
Flanagan, Kian
Fosu-Mensah, Evans Timothy Fosu
Fundi, Victor
Funnell, Matthew Ross
Gurung, Bivesh
Hanson, Ryan David
Henry, Dion-Curtis
Hungbo, Joseph Oluwagbemiga
Husin, Noor
Jno Baptiste, Francis
Kirby, Nya Jerome
Loftus Cheek, Ruben
Lumeka, Levi Jeremiah
Lynch, Kyle Jordan Victor
Malcolm, Joshua
Matthews, Drew
McGregor, Giovanni Donald
Mitchell, Tyrick
O'Dwyer, Oliver
Onen, Jayden Roy
Onoabhagbe, Ehizojie Martins
Ossai, Tariq Eddie
Ozono, Will
Peynado-Peart, Malachi Darnell
Phillips, Michael
Riedwald, Jairo Jocquim
Robertson, Sean Dominic
Serrato, Jordan
Tavares, Nikola
Wan-Bissaka, Aaron
Watson, Courtney Alfie Haynes
Webber, Oliver Henry
Woods, Samuel John

Kai
02-09-2017, 06:23 PM
So there is one spot available even if the list has been submitted? Wonder if they look for a striker or a goalie

Garfy
03-09-2017, 04:48 AM
Makes you wonder why we sent Anderson out on loan.

Popester
03-09-2017, 06:58 AM
Makes you wonder why we sent Anderson out on loan.

Because he isn't good enough.

mylona
03-09-2017, 07:08 AM
So there is one spot available even if the list has been submitted? Wonder if they look for a striker or a goalie

Good source says it's a centre back to add some competition to the 3 we acquired in this window. The thinking behind this is Benteke and Hennessey never get injured but our centre backs are always on the treatment table.

nicobos
03-09-2017, 07:42 AM
Good source says it's a centre back to add some competition to the 3 we acquired in this window. The thinking behind this is Benteke and Hennessey never get injured but our centre backs are always on the treatment table.

Makes sense - free Scott dann up to play up top :lux:

Can't forget that class headed goal against Bournemouth last year...

aashman12
03-09-2017, 07:43 AM
Bizarrely, Marouane Chamakh is probably the best unattached forward out there.

That Just shows how bad the options are. A player that hasn't played for 8 months is the best we can get

Penstone Eagle
03-09-2017, 07:58 AM
What a mess. An avoidable one.

elgin eagle
03-09-2017, 08:08 AM
Good source says it's a centre back to add some competition to the 3 we acquired in this window. The thinking behind this is Benteke and Hennessey never get injured but our centre backs are always on the treatment table.

:D

I'm hearing its a lwb.

In all seriousness I think it'll be diabetes.

stumpy feelers
03-09-2017, 08:32 AM
Type 1 or 2?

Adlerhorst
03-09-2017, 08:34 AM
Type 1 or 2?
Type 2. It's Neil Ruddock

Ooh Betty
03-09-2017, 08:56 AM
Makes you wonder why we sent Anderson out on loan.

Because we have plenty of other strikers.

wedgetail
03-09-2017, 09:07 AM
Because we have plenty of other strikers.

Because no one wanted Ladapo.

elgin eagle
03-09-2017, 09:30 AM
Type 1 or 2?

The dangerous one hopefully.

chelmsfordeagle
03-09-2017, 06:11 PM
I watched spain play without a striker for most of their match last night. We can do the same. Step forward jordan isco mutch.

mylona
03-09-2017, 06:22 PM
I watched spain play without a striker for most of their match last night. We can do the same. Step forward jordan isco mutch.

We don't really need a striker during this transition period while we perfect passing the ball backwards and forwards in our own half.

Langers
03-09-2017, 06:30 PM
We don't really need a striker during this transition period while we perfect passing the ball backwards and forwards in our own half.

Exactly - Read this: 4-6-0 formation: A revolution in the making? (http://thefootballfront.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/spain-4-6-0-formation-revolution-in.html?m=1)

jhc
03-09-2017, 06:31 PM
I have no doubt a striker will be signed. Whether he will appease the masses is another matter.

Maidstone Eagle
03-09-2017, 06:41 PM
Cannot believe that the Club would target anything other than a Striker for the a a parent Free Agent spot.

It would be very stupid.

CB has to stay fit through 15 plus games and routine training until the January window

AJ
03-09-2017, 06:41 PM
Possibly waiting until after the international break in case WH gets hurt and we need another goalkeeper first.

Maidstone Eagle
03-09-2017, 06:47 PM
Very good point.

But we do at least have experienced back as GK.

With Strikers we have none.

I like our defence properly organised and mid field but Striker really worries me.

4 cryingOutloud
03-09-2017, 06:59 PM
Just heard that negotiations are continuing between Palace & Fenerbahçe S.K to cancel Robin VanPursie's contract so that we can sign him. It's a decent source from an acquaintance living in Bursa, Turkey, but not a great one.

T.C.
03-09-2017, 07:05 PM
Just heard that negotiations are continuing between Palace & Fenerbahçe S.K to cancel Robin VanPursie's contract so that we can sign him. It's a decent source from an acquaintance living in Bursa, Turkey, but not a great one.

I thought that this couldn't happen by cancelling a contract after the window closed

Langers
03-09-2017, 07:06 PM
Very good point.

But we do at least have experienced back as GK.

With Strikers we have none.

I like our defence properly organised and mid field but Striker really worries me.

Mutch had a decent game as "striker" v Chelsea in 2015:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3066184/Chelsea-1-0-Crystal-Palace-Blues-clinch-Premier-League-title-Eden-Hazard-heads-home-seeing-initial-penalty-saved.html

Probably his best game for Palace?

Chas
03-09-2017, 07:10 PM
Just heard that negotiations are continuing between Palace & Fenerbahçe S.K to cancel Robin VanPursie's contract so that we can sign him. It's a decent source from an acquaintance living in Bursa, Turkey, but not a great one.

If his contract is terminated outside of a transfer window, we won't be permitted to register him until January.

EDIT: Just looked it up. Turkey's transfer window ends on Friday, 8 September. As long as it's the cancelling club's transfer window that matters (and not England's), then we might be able to pick him up. Though if that's the case, then maybe we should "convince" Besiktas to cancel Cenk Tosun's contract instead!

BillyTKid
03-09-2017, 07:14 PM
If his contract is terminated outside of a transfer window, we won't be permitted to register him until January.

Turkish transfer window open for another 5 days. I don't know if that makes any difference.

Jason
03-09-2017, 07:30 PM
Just heard that negotiations are continuing between Palace & Fenerbahçe S.K to cancel Robin VanPursie's contract so that we can sign him. It's a decent source from an acquaintance living in Bursa, Turkey, but not a great one.

Would be nice. A second good striker would make our squad look much stronger than it currently does

AJ
03-09-2017, 07:33 PM
Turkish transfer window open for another 5 days. I don't know if that makes any difference.
Which means we can still sell them Mutch :)

Maidstone Eagle
03-09-2017, 07:58 PM
RVP like him or not as a character is a very good goal scorer and still playing at a decent level.

Not sure if this will work out but would be a massive boost if it did.

elgin eagle
03-09-2017, 08:22 PM
If his contract is terminated outside of a transfer window, we won't be permitted to register him until January.

EDIT: Just looked it up. Turkey's transfer window ends on Friday, 8 September. As long as it's the cancelling club's transfer window that matters (and not England's), then we might be able to pick him up. Though if that's the case, then maybe we should "convince" Besiktas to cancel Cenk Tosun's contract instead!

Bet this happens. Not Tosun, Van Persie. A friend of the family was a nanny to his kids when he was at Arsenal.

Chillo
03-09-2017, 08:29 PM
Bet this happens. Not Tosun, Van Persie. A friend of the family was a nanny to his kids when he was at Arsenal.

.......... and what's the nanny's take on this situation? :hmph:

What do you mean, you haven't asked yet?! :wallbash:

dowieslovechild
03-09-2017, 08:33 PM
.......... and what's the nanny's take on this situation? :hmph:



She said no Robin?

elgin eagle
03-09-2017, 09:49 PM
.......... and what's the nanny's take on this situation? :hmph:

What do you mean, you haven't asked yet?! :wallbash:

I think his kids have kids themselves now ;)

cpfcfan1
04-09-2017, 08:51 PM
http://readcrystalpalace.com/2017/09/04/palace-linked-move-bacary-sagna/

According to this we're after sagna on a free [emoji23]

nicobos
04-09-2017, 09:00 PM
http://readcrystalpalace.com/2017/09/04/palace-linked-move-bacary-sagna/

According to this we're after sagna on a free [emoji23]

Can he play up top ??!

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
04-09-2017, 09:03 PM
Can he play up top ??!
No but he's excellent at playing it out when he plays in goal.

Maidstone Eagle
04-09-2017, 09:04 PM
Can't believe that full back is priority?

Surely a striker is needed.

trufan
04-09-2017, 09:05 PM
RVP like him or not as a character is a very good goal scorer and still playing at a decent level.

Not sure if this will work out but would be a massive boost if it did.

Hi Maidstoned. For what it's worth, someone who watches Turkish football was on the radio yesterday saying RVP is effectively a busted flush. Apparently his time over there has not been very successful at all and he's spent a lot of the time injured. Sounds just the man for us! :D

exiledeagle
04-09-2017, 09:12 PM
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bacary+sagna+video&qpvt=bacary+sagna+video&view=detail&mid=B6CF6B4EC5F5F25F2847B6CF6B4EC5F5F25F2847&FORM=VRDGAR

If we wanted him why didn't we go for him earlier ?

Mad Raschic Ken
04-09-2017, 09:25 PM
Can't believe that full back is priority?

Surely a striker is needed.

It would be a farcical signing in the circumstances, so on that basis it's absolutely nailed on.

Maidstone Eagle
04-09-2017, 10:11 PM
Hi Maidstoned. For what it's worth, someone who watches Turkish football was on the radio yesterday saying RVP is effectively a busted flush. Apparently his time over there has not been very successful at all and he's spent a lot of the time injured. Sounds just the man for us! :D
Thanks must admit my suggestion was based on instinct rather than time spent watching him.

If he will not have any impact then no point signing him.

Have we got a plan Z

red&blue_moomin
05-09-2017, 02:35 AM
IF we do sign RVP then I do think SP has lost his marbles. I get chasing after Sakho although wimmer or Martins indi made more sense financially and might have gotten tosun in the window.

Dedders
05-09-2017, 07:03 AM
IF we do sign RVP then I do think SP has lost his marbles. I get chasing after Sakho although wimmer or Martins indi made more sense financially and might have gotten tosun in the window.

We need a striker
I don't see why you think wanting him to patch up that position is so mental

elgin eagle
05-09-2017, 07:22 AM
We need a striker
I don't see why you think wanting him to patch up that position is so mental

Some sort of pay and you play deal on a free transfer would seem quite low risk for someone with such quality.

Kirby
05-09-2017, 08:29 AM
Would you believe it? Robin Van Persie's just torn his cruciate knee ligaments with Holland, so any notion of him joining has gone right down the shitter.

Diabate we're left with then.

Jman
05-09-2017, 08:51 AM
Imagine the scenes if we signed him and this happened in his first training session with us.

Sounds like it might be career ending.:frown:

whereEaglesFly
05-09-2017, 09:44 AM
Imagine the scenes if we signed him and this happened in his first training session with us.

Sounds like it might be career ending.:frown:

Knowing our luck he probably already signed a contract with us and it was just pending announcement on his return from national duty

Maidstoned Eagle
05-09-2017, 09:59 AM
Hi Maidstoned. For what it's worth, someone who watches Turkish football was on the radio yesterday saying RVP is effectively a busted flush. Apparently his time over there has not been very successful at all and he's spent a lot of the time injured. Sounds just the man for us! :D

Hi trufan

Nigelbrag
05-09-2017, 11:25 AM
The simple fact is we have made our bed and now have to lay on it.
Having let the window for a decent striker let slip, what is the point in now going after a striker from the "scrap heap" what in all possibility will be a waste of expensive space.
What we saw in this window was a management strategy cock up of the highest kind seen at the Palace in a very long time, lets hope we don't live to regret it come May.

Ooh Betty
05-09-2017, 11:46 AM
The simple fact is we have made our bed and now have to lay on it.


Lie

swissroll
05-09-2017, 11:48 AM
Having let the window for a decent striker let slip, what is the point in now going after a striker from the "scrap heap" what in all possibility will be a waste of expensive space.

We have to get someone for the cup games, Benteke just cant be risked in those now and to play them without a striker is beyond absurd

Hitchin Eagle
05-09-2017, 12:07 PM
Lie

It's true!

Nigelbrag
05-09-2017, 12:25 PM
We have to get someone for the cup games, Benteke just cant be risked in those now and to play them without a striker is beyond absurd

I know that, you know that and every Palace knows that, yet the club chose not to follow a commonsense route. I assume that they are relying on Ladappo to rescue us:sob: Oh well.
But for me to be panicked into getting in someone Now from the released list that can't find a club himself says it all, and makes the management decision to Not bring in a striker even more bizarre.

Nigelbrag
05-09-2017, 12:26 PM
Lie

**You are awful but i like you.:p

elgin eagle
05-09-2017, 12:27 PM
Would you believe it? Robin Van Persie's just torn his cruciate knee ligaments with Holland, so any notion of him joining has gone right down the shitter.

Diabate we're left with then.

Blimey. You couldnt make it up. The things they'll do eh. Although if we were prepared to pay up rvps contract perhaps diabetes isnt the only option left.

JDawg
05-09-2017, 12:33 PM
This year it seems we have to play a false number 9.

Last year we had Frazier Campbell

chelmsfordeagle
05-09-2017, 02:26 PM
I know that, you know that and every Palace knows that, yet the club chose not to follow a commonsense route. I assume that they are relying on Ladappo to rescue us:sob: Oh well.
But for me to be panicked into getting in someone Now from the released list that can't find a club himself says it all, and makes the management decision to Not bring in a striker even more bizarre.
I think zaha will be played upfront and allowed to wander. Like ronaldo does. I also think (if fit) sako will play there before Ladappo.

DARZET EAGLE
05-09-2017, 03:17 PM
We need a striker
I don't see why you think wanting him to patch up that position is so mental

Bad knee injury in last night's international? That puts an end to the option.

Nigelbrag
05-09-2017, 04:28 PM
I think zaha will be played upfront and allowed to wander. Like ronaldo does. I also think (if fit) sako will play there before Ladappo.

I also felt this is where the club see him eventually, but hopefully with the "protection" of Benteke alongside or played behind CB, or we will see him put in plaster all season long if he played the lone striker role.

sl6 Eagle
05-09-2017, 05:25 PM
Would you believe it? Robin Van Persie's just torn his cruciate knee ligaments with Holland, so any notion of him joining has gone right down the shitter.

Diabate we're left with then.

RVP has released a statement to say he will back on the training pitch in 3 weeks and that his injury isn't serious and it's all bollocks about him being out long term.

exiledeagle
05-09-2017, 10:29 PM
There was derision by many before last season that we might buy Hal Robson-Kanu . Well I wish we had him as back up to Benteke - mobile , good movement , can hold ball up and will chip in with few goals . Went to WBA as out of contract I recall .

Salad_Burnet
05-09-2017, 10:34 PM
What about that other Kanu that used to play for Arsenal, when they used to put Vaseline on the front of their shirts? He was well good.

Kirby
05-09-2017, 10:37 PM
What about that other Kanu that used to play for Arsenal, when they used to put Vaseline on the front of their shirts? He was well good.

Just had his 97th birthday.

Terrace Bickle
06-09-2017, 08:10 AM
What about that other Kanu that used to play for Arsenal, when they used to put Vaseline on the front of their shirts? He was well good.
Wasn't it Vicks? To help with breathing apparently.

Jim Cannon
06-09-2017, 11:51 AM
Just had his 97th birthday.

Is that Kanu years or real years though?

Spindle
06-09-2017, 01:19 PM
RVP has released a statement to say he will back on the training pitch in 3 weeks and that his injury isn't serious and it's all bollocks about him being out long term.

Which hospital released that statement? Let's get out there.

AJ
06-09-2017, 04:49 PM
I wonder if Palace should pick up an out of contract striker and goalkeeper and pay them as non playing staff while they train with the squad and then if the need arrives for a goalkeeper or striker we can sign one into the 25.

Zulu84
06-09-2017, 05:09 PM
Well presumably if all our keepers got hurt we would be allowed an emergency loan so the club probably is not too worried about addressing that right now. All ficus on on the striker

Stavros 69
06-09-2017, 05:20 PM
Can we get julio baptista before Bolton.


I've just hit rock bottom

AJ
06-09-2017, 06:45 PM
Well presumably if all our keepers got hurt we would be allowed an emergency loan so the club probably is not too worried about addressing that right now. All ficus on on the striker
I saw mention that emergency loans were not longer an option. I suppose there are 4 or 5 goalkeepers under 21 at the club, who would be drafted in before we put someone like Delaney in goal.

Langers
06-09-2017, 06:52 PM
I wonder if Palace should pick up an out of contract striker and goalkeeper and pay them as non playing staff while they train with the squad and then if the need arrives for a goalkeeper or striker we can sign one into the 25.

Good idea - take it one step further and pick up a few of each and let them battle it out for the final squad place

dave_who_ru
06-09-2017, 07:01 PM
I saw mention that emergency loans were not longer an option. I suppose there are 4 or 5 goalkeepers under 21 at the club, who would be drafted in before we put someone like Delaney in goal.

I know we have two 17 year olds which is the problem.

dave_who_ru
06-09-2017, 07:04 PM
Just seen we have signed Dion Henry a 19 year old goalkeeper released by Peterborough in the summer.

aj4england
06-09-2017, 07:08 PM
Sako in his last year of his contract may just be the reserve striker needed. Clutching at straws I know - shoot on sight policy .

Jman
06-09-2017, 07:28 PM
Sako in his last year of his contract may just be the reserve striker needed. Clutching at straws I know - shoot on sight policy .

He could be a "big" player for us this.year!

Hah, but seriously I do think he would have a role to play if he was ever fit! Any ideas when he is due back?

DARZET EAGLE
06-09-2017, 09:35 PM
Just seen we have signed Dion Henry a 19 year old goalkeeper released by Peterborough in the summer.

Old news, he signed early last month. He won't be the answer just yet. Hennesey will continue and prove the doubters wrong if we get off his back.

Young Trolley
07-09-2017, 12:55 PM
Old news, he signed early last month. He won't be the answer just yet. Hennesey will continue and prove the doubters wrong if we get off his back.

That would make a nice change seeing as all he's done up to now is prove them right...

mroakley9
07-09-2017, 01:02 PM
There was derision by many before last season that we might buy Hal Robson-Kanu . Well I wish we had him as back up to Benteke - mobile , good movement , can hold ball up and will chip in with few goals . Went to WBA as out of contract I recall .

Hal Robson-Kanu would've taken us to the next level

The Drive Man
07-09-2017, 05:51 PM
Topic: : Any hope of a new striker still?

answer: No.

davech
11-09-2017, 09:06 AM
Dion Dublin was actually filmed coming out of a three-bedroom house in Beckenham. Is this a sign??

wrightchipvcfc
11-09-2017, 09:13 AM
I know we joked about Dann up front but it looks like that's there plan couple of games now Dann pushed forward can always bring a c half on to replace him

El Aguila
11-09-2017, 09:17 AM
True, we're not short of centre halfs.

Palace121
11-09-2017, 09:21 AM
I know we joked about Dann up front but it looks like that's there plan couple of games now Dann pushed forward can always bring a c half on to replace him

To be fair, Suarez would have been happy with that take down from behind him, swivel and strike on the half volley that got cleared off the line yesterday.

Rocky Bullitt
11-09-2017, 09:22 AM
Hal Robson-Kanu would've taken us to the next level

And would have given us four double barrelled surnames with TFM, RLC and Curtis-Henry. How posh can you get?

gold76
11-09-2017, 10:34 AM
Dion Dublin was actually filmed coming out of a three-bedroom house in Beckenham. Is this a sign??

The HF could start banging on his dube