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RobertCPFC
01-09-2017, 06:02 PM
Kick off 19:45
Live on ITV

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIqAAp_XkAIohVi.jpg

Shipp Ahoy!
01-09-2017, 06:21 PM
Sorry to start negative but guessing it won't get better :D

What a piss poor line up!

We're playing Malta and we're starting Henderson and Livermore?! Wtf!

art malice
01-09-2017, 06:22 PM
Ince, Wright and Giggs the pundits. Fvck me.

mrB
01-09-2017, 06:23 PM
The pundits are ******* appalling

GB2506
01-09-2017, 06:23 PM
Turned on, saw Hart is playing, turned off. Absolute ****ig joke!!!

1905
01-09-2017, 06:25 PM
sigh

PALACEWU
01-09-2017, 06:27 PM
That line up is pretty depressing. Where's the magic?

dmf73
01-09-2017, 06:27 PM
Defensively one of the worst England teams I have ever seen.
Southgate never was and never will be a good manager.

Shipp Ahoy!
01-09-2017, 06:28 PM
Turned on, saw Hart is playing, turned off. Absolute ****ig joke!!!

Hart conceded 10 in 3... Butland 2 in 3...


Who gets the nod... :wallbash:

JAS78
01-09-2017, 06:36 PM
Turned on, saw Hart is playing, turned off. Absolute ****ig joke!!!

I'd stay away for a while

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41117565

Malarkey
01-09-2017, 06:37 PM
1. Why is Henderson even in the squad?
2. Why is he starting?
3. Why is he captain?

Oldtown Eagle
01-09-2017, 06:47 PM
Ince, Wright and Giggs the pundits. Fvck me.
:rolleyes: Paul Ince - the Governor, couldn't take a penalty though.

GB2506
01-09-2017, 06:51 PM
I'd stay away for a while

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41117565

Just sums up the absolute wanker who is managing the national team. The blokes a clown. He's done nothing in football management and ends up with the England job as he's an FA yes man.

mrB
01-09-2017, 06:54 PM
Southgate - fml

Stirling is also terrible

lewisuk
01-09-2017, 06:54 PM
I know this is controversial to say this on here but England really should play with a back 3 in these games. And why are we playing what essentially is a holding midfielder in Livermore

mrB
01-09-2017, 06:58 PM
Livermore plays for England and Zaha was cast aside. For that reason I'll never like Southgate

Icy
01-09-2017, 06:59 PM
Forgot this was even on. Playing a team that can't even muster a full suns bench and we still put out the same old shit. Think il stay in this pub rather than find one with this dross.

Louis
01-09-2017, 06:59 PM
For the ad break ...

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mrB
01-09-2017, 07:00 PM
Like Bertrand as a player though

in-exile
01-09-2017, 07:01 PM
That line up is pretty depressing. Where's the magic? Injured but playing for Ivory Coast when fit!

wedgetail
01-09-2017, 07:03 PM
That line up is pretty depressing. Where's the magic?

Wearing a leg brace.

st albans
01-09-2017, 07:15 PM
Two horrifically shit teams

HurstpierPalace
01-09-2017, 07:18 PM
Still struggling to work out when, how and who decided Henderson is anything better than distinctly average.

ebyeeckeagle
01-09-2017, 07:19 PM
I know this is controversial to say this on here but England really should play with a back 3 in these games. And why are we playing what essentially is a holding midfielder in Livermore

3 at the back or really, standard back 4 but plenty of width and encourage the full backs forward or one of the CBs to step forward.

Meaningless fixture but highlights the usual deficiencies.

ebyeeckeagle
01-09-2017, 07:19 PM
Still struggling to work out when, how and who decided Henderson is anything better than distinctly average.

Noe the designated set piece taker too.

sylvan eagle
01-09-2017, 07:22 PM
Like watching Palace pissing about with the ball

cantspell
01-09-2017, 07:22 PM
Sterling had been absolutely dire from the 1st minute when he failed to shoot to the foul he just executed - Henderson 1st touch appalling

cantspell
01-09-2017, 07:25 PM
And now a shocking cross - absolutely overrated

Selhurst300
01-09-2017, 07:26 PM
Is that Palace in the dark strip?

Mr Mojo Risin
01-09-2017, 07:26 PM
Every time I look at the England first team it gets worse and worse. At this rate Jordon Mutch will be in the team in a couple of years.

sylvan eagle
01-09-2017, 07:27 PM
At least Townsend would have a been a bit more direct

jhc
01-09-2017, 07:28 PM
Watching England can be like watching paint dry - so boring:S:

HurstpierPalace
01-09-2017, 07:29 PM
Can't be overstated just how overrated Sterling is.

mrB
01-09-2017, 07:31 PM
I defy anyone to watch 10 games with sterling playing then 10 with wilf and to pick Stirling to play for England. It furiates me what happened...

jhc
01-09-2017, 07:32 PM
I defy anyone to watch 10 games with sterling playing then 10 with wilf and to pick Stirling to play for England. It furiates me what happened...

Yep:sob:

Selhurst300
01-09-2017, 07:34 PM
If I take a ratio of football quality to the player values, I would rate Palace above England on this showing.

cranesparkeagle
01-09-2017, 07:40 PM
Gods teeth. What was that I just watched. How much longer can Henderson go on strolling about patting his captains armband. How about just trying to raise the temp. How about Bertrand taking on his man and crossing once in a while. How about Kain even leaving the dressing room. These guys are going through the motions, for their BLOODY COUNTRY for christsakes

meee
01-09-2017, 07:40 PM
Can we start a poll?

What's worse:

England's performance or Paul Ince?

alf
01-09-2017, 07:41 PM
Watching England can be like watching paint dry - so boring:S:

That was my thought to :(

Icy
01-09-2017, 07:43 PM
I defy anyone to watch 10 games with sterling playing then 10 with wilf and to pick Stirling to play for England. It furiates me what happened...

Not a fan, but to be fair Sterling has been quality for city this season. Doesn't exactly shine when surrounded by the shit in the England team though.

desperado
01-09-2017, 07:47 PM
If Jordan Henderson played for Watford or Stoke he wouldn't be anywhere near the England team

Southgate has made him captain which shows both England's and Southgate's limitations

There have to be better options than this

cantspell
01-09-2017, 07:48 PM
Not a fan, but to be fair Sterling has been quality for city this season. Doesn't exactly shine when surrounded by the shit in the England team though.


He has been shite in this game - and rightly subbed off at h/t

Ruskin Old Boy
01-09-2017, 07:49 PM
Like watching Palace pissing about with the ball

Indeed.

Oxlade-Chamberlain the one player with flair.

Henderson, how does he make the England team?

Leap of faith
01-09-2017, 07:50 PM
This is so dire

Ruskin Old Boy
01-09-2017, 07:52 PM
Scotland won 5-1 in Malta :rolleyes:

foetus eagle
01-09-2017, 07:55 PM
Can we start a poll?

What's worse:

England's performance or Paul Ince?


Ince, every time. 'Guvnor' my vadge.

RobertCPFC
01-09-2017, 07:56 PM
1-0

Kane

CPFC_Fan
01-09-2017, 08:07 PM
This is bollocks. England would get crushed by most of the top 30 sides with this style of play. It's so boring in the worst possible way. Not like amPulis style way where it could be construed as boring. This is just flat out boring.

SJ'sLoveMonkey
01-09-2017, 08:08 PM
Laughable

Mr Mojo Risin
01-09-2017, 08:09 PM
16 years ago today we beat Germany 5-1. Now we are just about managing to beat Malta. How times change.

Shipp Ahoy!
01-09-2017, 08:12 PM
Makes me feel better about watching Palace this.

Big Gav
01-09-2017, 08:12 PM
Call me a glory hunter but there is no way I would ever pay or give up my time for an England match again unless we got to a semi final or final and that ain't gonna happen

Big Gav
01-09-2017, 08:13 PM
Pitch invader best entertainment so far :)

art malice
01-09-2017, 08:14 PM
Call me a glory hunter but there is no way I would ever pay or give up my time for an England match again unless we got to a major semi final or final and that ain't gonna happen

England would make heavy weather of getting to the semi-finals of the home nations

SJ'sLoveMonkey
01-09-2017, 08:14 PM
Call me a glory hunter but there is no way I would ever pay or give up my time for an England match again unless we got to a semi final or final and that ain't gonna happen

**** me Gav you are hedging your bets there you tight ******!! :D:D;)

foetus eagle
01-09-2017, 08:14 PM
With Muscat and Borg you'd expect resistance to be futile.

bubbs11
01-09-2017, 08:19 PM
Just can't take Southgate seriously. It's like he's won a charity raffle to be England manager for the day.

RobertCPFC
01-09-2017, 08:25 PM
Just can't take Southgate seriously. It's like he's won a charity raffle to be England manager for the day.

I think that's what they did after BFS left but nobody else entered.

Oldtown Eagle
01-09-2017, 08:25 PM
The world of football must be shaking in their boots.

Joe85
01-09-2017, 08:27 PM
Can't be overstated just how overrated Sterling is.



English players in general really.

cantspell
01-09-2017, 08:28 PM
Pitch invader best entertainment so far :)


Definitely

Joe85
01-09-2017, 08:29 PM
That knowing look from Southgate, like he's masterminded a famous victory.

****.

SeanPalace84
01-09-2017, 08:29 PM
Love how people used to rip the shit out of Beckham etc. The team then was great in comparison....just needed a good manager and no wags.

RobertCPFC
01-09-2017, 08:29 PM
At least we have now won assuming no disasters.

Oldtown Eagle
01-09-2017, 08:31 PM
Love how people used to rip the shit out of Beckham etc. The team then was great in comparison....just needed a good manager and no wags.
:supergrin: it's Friday I could do with a wag.

hdeagle
01-09-2017, 08:33 PM
No way is Walker worth more than Sakho.

hdeagle
01-09-2017, 08:34 PM
England now 3-0 up

CPFC_Fan
01-09-2017, 08:34 PM
England finish the game with 4 strikers on the pitch. 4! Ffs

cpfcfan1
01-09-2017, 08:35 PM
4 0

hdeagle
01-09-2017, 08:35 PM
England now 4-0 up

RobertCPFC
01-09-2017, 08:36 PM
4-0

Looks much better but doesn't sum up the match.

hdeagle
01-09-2017, 08:38 PM
Hart keeps a clean sheet as England score 3 late goals to save face and beat Malta 4-0

Glazier69
01-09-2017, 08:38 PM
That's two hours of my life wasted.

CPFC247
01-09-2017, 08:45 PM
Love how people used to rip the shit out of Beckham etc. The team then was great in comparison....just needed a good manager and no wags.

That team had the potential to be great, but lacked the heart and desire to actually push on along with no manager who was ever willing to make tough decisions that would have benefited the side (drop gerrard or lampard, don't pick players no matter what their fitness or form, don't just pick the 11 biggest names etc.)

They were more frustrating to watch than this lot due to that. This lot have some players who are simply not good enough.

Les Butler
01-09-2017, 08:46 PM
Mind numbingly boring, I switched to the German game to watch some actual football.

mrB
01-09-2017, 08:59 PM
Paul Ince - jesus - jokingly telling ian Wright he will knock him out for disagreeing at the end of the programme

RobertCPFC
01-09-2017, 09:12 PM
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/ACB6/production/_97641244_groupf.png

lewisuk
01-09-2017, 10:31 PM
Everything you need to know about what's wrong with England international football can bee send in Alan smiths ratings of the team tonight on sky sports website ... when the rating to describe a 7 for Cahill and jones handled maltas attack I should hope they did because that's prem v non leaveue chuck in a 7 for Livermore and 8 for Henderson and younger the issue for me 5s all round you beat a non leave team 4-0 thanks to 3 goals in the last 10 minutes.. yes it's hard to break down 9 men so move the ball faster give options switch the play etc.. Germany would walk of a game like that tonight with. 10-0 without even breaking sweat that. That's why come the summer will be the same old England draw the first game , win the second game 1-0 against a shit time sneak a draw in the last lost in the 2nd round or get lucky with a 1-0 win lose on penalties in the next round ...rinse and repeat as far as an England Goes

aj4england
01-09-2017, 10:39 PM
Slow and letheragic sideways passing with very little team cohesion.

Only started to look like a top 10 side in the world when either Alli and Kane combined or when Rashford came on. How Livermore makes the team beyond me, and 'The Ox' and Henderson really had no attacking threat between them.

Sterling is a lot of hustle and bustle and should've put us 1-0 up early.

Hart is a calamity waiting to happen, as is Kyle Walker.

Solid game from Bertrand and Cahill. Jones less so (though had a perfectly good goal disallowed for no reason I thought?!)

lewisuk
01-09-2017, 10:40 PM
Best thing about the England match tonight by the sound of things was being in the green dragon with no sound so don't have to listen to once the wanker I mean guvnor sorry

Hibernator
01-09-2017, 11:56 PM
This is bollocks. England would get crushed by most of the top 30 sides with this style of play. It's so boring in the worst possible way. Not like amPulis style way where it could be construed as boring. This is just flat out boring.

If you ever watched Middlesborough play under his tenure, most of that was more tedious than watching us play under Peter Taylors direction, and THAT was seriously mind numbing. :eek:

His style of management is extremely sleep inducing... :lux:

Hibernator
01-09-2017, 11:59 PM
Paul Ince - jesus - jokingly telling ian Wright he will knock him out for disagreeing at the end of the programme


Personally , I would be quite happy if they fought... and cancelled each other out.

Pair of tw@ts.

PeterH
02-09-2017, 12:05 AM
Just can't take Southgate seriously. It's like he's won a charity raffle to be England manager for the day.

His payment in kind for giving all the academy rights to the big clubs.

Oli28
02-09-2017, 08:14 AM
If Jordan Henderson played for Watford or Stoke he wouldn't be anywhere near the England team

Southgate has made him captain which shows both England's and Southgate's limitations

There have to be better options than this
He doesn't play for Stoke or Watford because he's way better than that.

Reminds me a bit of when the bbs was outraged that Dann didn't play regularly for England, and it was only because he played for Palace that he didn't get included. Not an opinion you hear much anymore mind. Probably one shared by those who thought that Sakho was shit before they saw him play a few times.

CP-RJW
02-09-2017, 08:21 AM
He doesn't play for Stoke or Watford because he's way better than that.

Reminds me a bit of when the bbs was outraged that Dann didn't play regularly for England, and it was only because he played for Palace that he didn't get included. Not an opinion you hear much anymore mind. Probably one shared by those who thought that Sakho was shit before they saw him play a few times.
Yeah he's rather average but still our best midfielder besides Ali and Lallana, who are obviously both attack minded.

ebyeeckeagle
02-09-2017, 08:26 AM
Not a fan, but to be fair Sterling has been quality for city this season. Doesn't exactly shine when surrounded by the shit in the England team though.

What is that based on?. He came on in the last 10 mins against Brighton and was a sub again in their second game.

Poor first touch, poor decision making and dreadful passing. Nothing to do with the quality around him.

TheMexicanHorse
02-09-2017, 08:34 AM
Southgate made a good point post game, if it was Germany who had beat Malta away four nil it would be deemed a "professional performance".
Got to say, don't really understand the criticism by the pondlife media, England never looked in any danager, clean sheet and four goals.

danpalace07
03-09-2017, 01:45 AM
why, oh why do I watch England games still? 85 mins of drivel. 2 holding mids v Malta ffs and build up play about as effective as Palace's

funny what happens when England go direct

Tom's Old Man
03-09-2017, 07:16 PM
What is that based on?. He came on in the last 10 mins against Brighton and was a sub again in their second game.

Poor first touch, poor decision making and dreadful passing. Nothing to do with the quality around him.
Agreed, nothing to do with the players around him. Had a golden opportunity to score in the first minute, couldn't even get a shot in. Shouldn't play v Slovakia.

Lombardo 888
04-09-2017, 07:36 AM
Just can't take Southgate seriously. It's like he's won a charity raffle to be England manager for the day.

Absolutely. He is the football manager equivalent of David Brent.

Olympian2
04-09-2017, 07:55 AM
[QUOTE=TheMexicanHorse;13822068]Southgate made a good point post game, if it was Germany who had beat Malta away four nil it would be deemed a "professional performance".
QUOTE]

Not if they'd only been one goal better after 85 minutes, it wouldn't.

rambo1
04-09-2017, 07:56 AM
Southgate made a good point post game, if it was Germany who had beat Malta away four nil it would be deemed a "professional performance".
Got to say, don't really understand the criticism by the pondlife media, England never looked in any danager, clean sheet and four goals.


Absolutely.
The Booing & walking out,of Supporters,was an utter Disgrace.
The Media are Just as Bad.

Kylie_Tracey
04-09-2017, 08:11 AM
I actually thought they played fairly decently for a change, well the second half anyway they went out to win the game and looked dangerous going forward.

Kylie_Tracey
04-09-2017, 08:12 AM
Absolutely. He is the football manager equivalent of David Brent.

Brent run a very successful paper merchants in Slough!

pallet
04-09-2017, 08:47 AM
Its a really weird one, I guess that like us Southgate probably gets up in the morning and still cant beleive he is the England manager, he was in the right place at the right time.
When you look at the bigger picture though, we are our won worst enemy, most managers and players go all over the world to play and manger football. Our players and managers mainly stay here and therefore we learn nothing about other countries style of play or mentality.
Still it does'nt matter, the Premier league is the best league in the world.

JDawg
04-09-2017, 05:02 PM
Win 4-0 away and get castigated. How does that work?

greybot
04-09-2017, 05:15 PM
Win 4-0 away and get castigated. How does that work?

Belgium beat Gibraltar 9-0, had twice as many shots on target as well as off target and played most of the game with 10 men. England were awful against a team you'd expect them to be putting six passed like Scotland did. The pitch invader showed more energy than any of the England players.

JAS78
04-09-2017, 05:17 PM
Win 4-0 away and get castigated. How does that work?

Anger from the Iceland performance is still fresh in the memory, well that and all the other bottled tournaments.

Palace Bear
04-09-2017, 05:31 PM
Win 4-0 away and get castigated. How does that work?

It wasn't the score, it was the performance that gets the castigation.
Dreadful performance. A tired bunch of amateur's conceding 3 very later goals disguised an otherwise embarrassing result.

GanbareWashi
04-09-2017, 05:39 PM
Belgium beat Gibraltar 9-0, had twice as many shots on target as well as off target and played most of the game with 10 men. England were awful against a team you'd expect them to be putting six passed like Scotland did. The pitch invader showed more energy than any of the England players.


Scotland scored 5 past a Maltese team that had two players sent off. It was 1 - 1 at half time. They also only lost one nil to Italy, in Italy. Since Jan 2014 their worst defeat (apart from Scotland) was a 3 - 0 loss to Denmark. That is in 16 games. So they are a well set up, difficult to break down team.

NorthPalace23
04-09-2017, 05:48 PM
Its a really weird one, I guess that like us Southgate probably gets up in the morning and still cant beleive he is the England manager, he was in the right place at the right time.
When you look at the bigger picture though, we are our won worst enemy, most managers and players go all over the world to play and manger football. Our players and managers mainly stay here and therefore we learn nothing about other countries style of play or mentality.
Still it does'nt matter, the Premier league is the best league in the world.

Club comes first and rightly so.

I wouldn't mind watching England games if the football was entertaining and if there was some fight. It's as dull as watching Palace under our soon to be sacked manager!

leicester1
04-09-2017, 05:51 PM
Why oh why does Southgate not pair Kane with Vardy?...............

Levski
04-09-2017, 05:51 PM
Re-opening and old debate, but it is ridiculous how much England could do with Zaha to open up defences. Many countries play very defensively, not only Malta.

England squad is full of one-paced central midfielders with no ability to beat a defender. Makes them both boring and ineffective.

It's funny. There's been all that outrage about how the Charles Hughes coaching manual, 'direct play', Graham Taylor, etc was ineffective and that England lack 'continental technique' and can't retain possession. This is (and remains) largely true. But I'd now say in learning how to better retain possession, trap a football, play a short pass etc, England have somehow stayed very ineffective. No movement, vision or skill.

England look better when they go more direct as someone else said above, not when they try to play like Italy.

Has some echoes to the current debate with Palace...!