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Mictor Voses
15-09-2017, 08:55 PM
When are we expecting the Brighton tickets to go on sale? I have 4000+ points so should be fine eligibility wise but I'm on holiday in the States from November 1st so I'm worried I may miss out given the high demand for tickets to this game!

Kirby
17-09-2017, 05:16 PM
End of October most probably.

Already booked my hotel. £35 right in the town centre. Outrageously cheap for Brighton!

Pidster
25-09-2017, 10:25 AM
End of October most probably.

Already booked my hotel. £35 right in the town centre. Outrageously cheap for Brighton!

The Lewis Dunk suite?

PIE "N" MASH
25-09-2017, 12:06 PM
The Lewis Dunk suite?
Shit view.

Ajedman
03-10-2017, 12:08 PM
Back in 2013 Steve Browett arranged for the club coaches to stop at Starbucks on A23 at Hooley to make it easier for some of us outside the Selhurst area. From memory around 15-20 people used this option.

I have emailed the box office in plenty of time to ask if this could be organised again, this is the reply I just received.

"Unfortunately we have no information for this game as of yet, in regards to the coaches, it is likely the coach drivers will be instructed not to stop on the way to the ground."

Would anyone have an idea who it would be best to speak to about this.

Palace Bear
03-10-2017, 12:27 PM
Back in 2013 Steve Browett arranged for the club coaches to stop at Starbucks on A23 at Hooley to make it easier for some of us outside the Selhurst area. From memory around 15-20 people used this option.

I have emailed the box office in plenty of time to ask if this could be organised again, this is the reply I just received.

"Unfortunately we have no information for this game as of yet, in regards to the coaches, it is likely the coach drivers will be instructed not to stop on the way to the ground."

Would anyone have an idea who it would be best to speak to about this.

Don't worry this year they won't be arranging it to save you the misery and pain.

Ooh Betty
03-10-2017, 02:21 PM
Apparently we have asked for a reduced allocation of 200 tickets.

New LP
03-10-2017, 05:48 PM
Back in 2013 Steve Browett arranged for the club coaches to stop at Starbucks on A23 at Hooley to make it easier for some of us outside the Selhurst area. From memory around 15-20 people used this option.



I have emailed the box office in plenty of time to ask if this could be organised again, this is the reply I just received.



"Unfortunately we have no information for this game as of yet, in regards to the coaches, it is likely the coach drivers will be instructed not to stop on the way to the ground."



Would anyone have an idea who it would be best to speak to about this.


Talksport?

drunkymunky
04-10-2017, 11:10 AM
Whwt do people reckon the points requirements for this game will be ( am in the 3,000 + category)?

thereichstuff
04-10-2017, 11:26 AM
Shit view.

Yeah every view faces the wall .

ForzaPalace
04-10-2017, 12:59 PM
Yeah every view faces the wall .

And you get raped

whyteleafeeagle
12-10-2017, 07:06 PM
I’m hearing rumours that this could potentially be a bubble wrap game I.e you can only pick up tickets + travel via club coach!!

ellioteagle1
12-10-2017, 07:22 PM
No chance

SeanPalace84
12-10-2017, 07:34 PM
Sounds feasible to be fair.

elgin eagle
12-10-2017, 07:37 PM
Iím hearing rumours that this could potentially be a bubble wrap game I.e you can only pick up tickets + travel via club coach!!

Feck that. Me and Keltic are flying down from Edinburgh and back the next day. Thats a big bubble.

3 Beers at HT
12-10-2017, 07:47 PM
Iím hearing rumours that this could potentially be a bubble wrap game I.e you can only pick up tickets + travel via club coach!!

Wrexham/Chester was the last 'Bubble' match for supporters but, under pressure from Fans' groups, for the first time in ages their match this season was unrestricted.

I very much doubt that the Police will be able to impose such restrictions on this match, considering the relatively low risk.

Chillo
12-10-2017, 08:08 PM
What do people reckon the points requirements for this game will be ( am in the 3,000 + category)?

4,500 to start with.

Ooh Betty
12-10-2017, 08:42 PM
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PIE "N" MASH
13-10-2017, 04:30 AM
Yeah every view faces the wall .
:p

Sp1Eagle
13-10-2017, 01:04 PM
Iím hearing rumours that this could potentially be a bubble wrap game I.e you can only pick up tickets + travel via club coach!!

Sussex Police have said it will NOT be a bubble game.

CJ PLUM
13-10-2017, 01:47 PM
Iím hearing rumours that this could potentially be a bubble wrap game I.e you can only pick up tickets + travel via club coach!!

This is an interesting Police tactic that has been used at several high profile local derbies including Portsmouth v Southampton, Blackburn v Burnley and Swansea v Cardiff. It involves compulsory travel by bus or coach for all away fans with match tickets only collected on the day, often at some halfway location. It actually requires less Police as all resources are in one controlled location.
Due to Premier League regulations Police are not able to specify dates for any fixture except in exceptional circumstances but this tactic could well have been used if both games were at weekends. It is difficult to see how it could be implemented for an evening game due to a lack of sufficient available transport during rush hours. For a typical example see the video below. An infamous 'wall' screen was also used at this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT6e7QUIHts&t=8s

It is difficult to see how Southern Railway could fit any special trains into the crowded rush hour schedule and there is no street parking within 2 miles as all local roads are now permit parking only.

It is interesting to find out what restrictions fans would be willing to endure as any tactics employed at one game are likely to be replicated at the return fixture. I would certainly expect to be held back for at least 20 mins.

scro
13-10-2017, 03:40 PM
Sussex Police have said it will NOT be a bubble game.

I hope not i have already paid for a parking space!

Neillo's Son
13-10-2017, 03:59 PM
How would that work for Palace fans like myself who live in Brighton? Surely it's laughable to think I'd have to travel to Selhurst to then travel back to Brighton...

cpfc4evandeva
13-10-2017, 04:06 PM
How would that work for Palace fans like myself who live in Brighton? Surely it's laughable to think I'd have to travel to Selhurst to then travel back to Brighton...

I remember reading about a Blackburn fan who lived across the road from Turf Moor, but had to travel to Ewood Park to catch a bus to get to their game against Burnley :D

I'd like to think that the police let him out at the end of the game so he could just go home straight away...

Pinkie Brown
13-10-2017, 04:08 PM
I hope not i have already paid for a parking space!

Great idea thanks, just booked myself one now!

CJ PLUM
13-10-2017, 04:46 PM
How would that work for Palace fans like myself who live in Brighton? Surely it's laughable to think I'd have to travel to Selhurst to then travel back to Brighton...

As stated above, all fans have to travel by the organised buses so some away fans even had to travel for the start from the ground despite living nearer the home team ground.
In 2012 Portsmouth ran 46 buses for their game at Southampton with 34 starting from Fratton Park and another 12 from nearby Langstone.

If it was to happen Police might possibly allow a pick-up at a halfway location near Crawley but with rush hour services and school bus requirements I cannot see where they could find sufficient buses.

Dorking .Eagle
13-10-2017, 05:14 PM
I hope not i have already paid for a parking space!

Same!

CJ PLUM
13-10-2017, 05:23 PM
In theory Brighton offer free travel to both home and away fans on trains and buses to the Amex within their travel zone including travel via Brighton or Lewes to Falmer on production of a valid match ticket. So you would only need to buy train tickets to Haywards Heath. Stations between Worthing and Eastbourne are also included so you could also park near a station and catch a train to Falmer.
However as it is an evening match trains from Falmer will be limited.

Can you really see the Police allowing everybody to share trains?

Dorking .Eagle
13-10-2017, 05:41 PM
They managed all right for the play off. But then they all buggered off 5 minutes before the end!!!!

CJ PLUM
13-10-2017, 06:00 PM
I have tried searching some forums on travel problems to the Amex but Brighton have yet to play any other London club, who would all have more localised support, at home.
Most northern clubs will use a large numbers of coaches so do not have the same park and ride travel problems, especially for evening games.They play Southampton on Sunday 29th October at home so it may be worth checking their forums after this game.

Gazza2
13-10-2017, 10:57 PM
Those of us travelling by train were held back / corraled after the league defeat there and were forced to stand in the area outside the away end in pouring rain for about 25 mins. This enabled most home fans travelling by train to have cleared off on trains before we were escorted to station.
They did stick us on a special train back to East Croy that stopped at Gatwick and sat there for ages while changed driver.

Shipp Ahoy!
13-10-2017, 11:21 PM
Those of us travelling by train were held back / corraled after the league defeat there and were forced to stand in the area outside the away end in pouring rain for about 25 mins. This enabled most home fans travelling by train to have cleared off on trains before we were escorted to station.
They did stick us on a special train back to East Croy that stopped at Gatwick and sat there for ages while changed driver.

Will never forget that lovely experience having been smashed 3-0.

One time I tried to leave a game early and only because I was due to play a game myself that afternoon. Police having none of it and I ended up turning up late and getting dropped to the bench...

Capped a brilliant day that did :wallbash:

King William
14-10-2017, 05:00 AM
Same!

Where have you paid to park?

At the ground?

old git
14-10-2017, 06:33 AM
Those of us travelling by train were held back / corraled after the league defeat there and were forced to stand in the area outside the away end in pouring rain for about 25 mins. This enabled most home fans travelling by train to have cleared off on trains before we were escorted to station.
They did stick us on a special train back to East Croy that stopped at Gatwick and sat there for ages while changed driver.

You should have stayed in the concourse. Bars were open and we even drank out in the seats.

Dorking .Eagle
14-10-2017, 06:38 AM
Always used to park at the nearest end of Moulsecoombe (council estate at the end of the footpath from the railway), but since we last played there the council has made the whole of Moulsecoombe and Coldean residents parking only, and the locals are too thick to realise they could make good money from 'park on my drive'.

BHA have however created a car park called 'The Bridge' which is pretty much in the same sort of place. £15 bookable online through their website, and no 'hold back' after the game, unlike the university car parks.

To be fair cheaper option is as Chris said, park at somewhere like Lewes station car park for a couple of quid and get the free train to and from the ground. Just went for the easiest option for my family to be honest.

Coaches are the 'sensible' option, but of course we dont all live near Selhurst. Maybe if CPFC did a couple of pickups en-route that might help some people.

Penstone Eagle
14-10-2017, 08:22 AM
There are several train stations west of Brighton and before Brighton where you can park, obviously you then have to change for Falmer. Good luck to anyone trying to park at Lewes.

Dorking .Eagle
14-10-2017, 09:27 AM
There are several train stations west of Brighton and before Brighton where you can park, obviously you then have to change for Falmer. Good luck to anyone trying to park at Lewes.

Indeed. And whichever nearby station you park at you still have to either hang around and wait for a train, or share breathing space with that lot. Looking at the total cost of trains for the group of 3 of us, really couldn't be arsed with it all and just took the lazy option of their car park

Mad Raschic Ken
15-10-2017, 12:56 PM
I went by train for the first game there and used the park and ride for the second one. Both took ages afterwards. For the Play Off game we used the club coach and it was definitely the easiest, so will be doing that again this time.

Sir.S.C Remembered
16-10-2017, 05:32 PM
What do you think the points scheme will be for tickets? I thought I'd have no chance but maybe I will as on over 4000

Mictor Voses
17-10-2017, 01:53 PM
What do you think the points scheme will be for tickets? I thought I'd have no chance but maybe I will as on over 4000

I've got 4980 and I'm thinking of buying something from the staff shop to get over 5000.

pauldrulez
17-10-2017, 02:21 PM
3000 allocation, right?

Can't see it being much more than 4500 points.

Palace121
17-10-2017, 02:36 PM
I've got 3500. Think I've got a chance??

Oli28
17-10-2017, 02:43 PM
All dependent I guess on the rumours that we're being restricted to a smaller allocation, as stated in previous threads.

jmemour
17-10-2017, 02:55 PM
I've got 4980 and I'm thinking of buying something from the staff shop to get over 5000.

Blimey really. Surely you'd get a ticket with that many. I did 10 aways last year and only have 3500.

Ooh Betty
17-10-2017, 05:49 PM
I've got 4980 and I'm thinking of buying something from the staff shop to get over 5000.

The staff have their own shop ?

SuttonExile
17-10-2017, 06:01 PM
I'm probably not gunna be able to get a ticket for this am I with about 1000 points?

Sir.S.C Remembered
17-10-2017, 09:54 PM
Thanks for advice fellas. Hope we find out info soon.

aj4england
18-10-2017, 09:53 AM
I've got 4980 and I'm thinking of buying something from the staff shop to get over 5000.

Think you are safe with 4980 pal

SteveyHawking
18-10-2017, 02:28 PM
I'm on 4488... Might have to purchase something soon to get over the hump. When do we expect the tickets to be announced?

Pinkie Brown
18-10-2017, 03:04 PM
I think a lot of friends and family may be getting Palace Monopoly this Christmas :p

cpfcfly
18-10-2017, 03:16 PM
I've got 4980 and I'm thinking of buying something from the staff shop to get over 5000.
I've got 4978 and feel confident.

Those 2 extra may be the difference ;)

Sir.S.C Remembered
18-10-2017, 04:21 PM
I'm on 4488... Might have to purchase something soon to get over the hump. When do we expect the tickets to be announced?

I've bought some things in the last few days to get over 4500. Have to say, I'm surprised I'm over that level, despite being a season ticket holder for almost 20 years now. Yes I've bought some friends home tickets and introduced some foriegn footie fans to Palace to convert them, but I've not done many away games for years so feel a bit guilty that I am likely to qualify. I may benefit from it, but that doesn't mean I agree with how the calculations for points work. Same applies to parachute payments but that is another topic for another day.

On the travel front, am considering:-
a. Park at Lewis station and train it to and from. Someone showed some scepticism though on this front? Was this how busy it gets after the game/how infrequent?

b. Pay the £15 to park in official car park. But this is still park and ride so likely given how busy it gets afterwards, not much quicker no?

c. Other park and ride option

EddieEdwards
18-10-2017, 04:32 PM
b. Pay the £15 to park in official car park. But this is still park and ride so likely given how busy it gets afterwards, not much quicker no?I don't think it's park and ride. There might be a shuttle option for those that need it but it's no more than a 15 min walk.

Chillo
18-10-2017, 04:56 PM
On the travel front, am considering:-
a. Park at Lewis station and train it to and from. Someone showed some scepticism though on this front? Was this how busy it gets after the game/how infrequent?

I've parked in Lewes each time we've played them. Anything involving trains to and from Falmer is always going to be an issue, with a very small station and thousands of fans trying to access them, both home and away.

The trains from Lewes were rammed and it kicked off a bit in some carriages and on Lewes station, plus with many people not wearing colours, you couldn't tell if you were OK or not in each carriage!

I'll probably still be doing this and parking in Lewes, possibly staying longer at the ground depending on the result!

Dorking .Eagle
18-10-2017, 04:56 PM
The car park being sold through BHA's website is a 10 min walk, there is no bus ride involved, and no hold-back, bar of course traffic.

At previous games there has been a special train back to East Croydon after the game, I would imagine that would be very handy for many.

Penstone Eagle
18-10-2017, 05:32 PM
I've bought some things in the last few days to get over 4500. Have to say, I'm surprised I'm over that level, despite being a season ticket holder for almost 20 years now. Yes I've bought some friends home tickets and introduced some foriegn footie fans to Palace to convert them, but I've not done many away games for years so feel a bit guilty that I am likely to qualify. I may benefit from it, but that doesn't mean I agree with how the calculations for points work. Same applies to parachute payments but that is another topic for another day.

On the travel front, am considering:-
a. Park at Lewis station and train it to and from. Someone showed some scepticism though on this front? Was this how busy it gets after the game/how infrequent?

b. Pay the £15 to park in official car park. But this is still park and ride so likely given how busy it gets afterwards, not much quicker no?

c. Other park and ride option

If the 'Bridge car park' is available, then that's the best bet according to my Brighton mate.

ffsear
19-10-2017, 02:38 PM
The train journey back after the playoff semi was class. They put us all on the train, pulled it out the station and then let the weed onto the platform. They then slowly moved our train back through the station and we got to goad them hard!!

My favourite Monday evening ever!

St.AlbansEagle
19-10-2017, 03:43 PM
3862....I'm going to be short aren't I?

Chillo
19-10-2017, 03:52 PM
3862....I'm going to be short aren't I?

Don't let Owngoal hear you say that :lux:

Dobbo
19-10-2017, 04:07 PM
Lads & I have got 3599, 3340 & 3320. Never had a problem getting away tickets previously, so very hopeful.

eagle mart
19-10-2017, 04:11 PM
Us lot are 3200 - 3700. Cant see it being a problem... assuming 3,000, and a Tuesday night.

Those with over 4,000 can sleep safely. And anyone on 5,000 have stolen Tony Pulis clubshop points.

Selhurst Celtic
19-10-2017, 04:15 PM
All dependent I guess on the rumours that we're being restricted to a smaller allocation, as stated in previous threads.

If this does happen then I'm sure Palace will ignore the £££ & cut their allocation at Selhurst too.

oddrod
23-10-2017, 09:08 AM
When Brighton tickets sell?

whereEaglesFly
23-10-2017, 10:05 AM
If this does happen then I'm sure Palace will ignore the £££ & cut their allocation at Selhurst too.

It'll be due to the Police I suspect rather than Brighton

A Wooden Fish On Wheels
23-10-2017, 11:37 AM
When Brighton tickets sell?... We all go to game!

Chunt
24-10-2017, 01:38 PM
Allocation of 2000 for game.

adman50
24-10-2017, 01:40 PM
Bollocks restriction been cut down - i have 4,300 so feel safe but i wont be waiting for mates below 4k I just cant risk it

old git
24-10-2017, 01:43 PM
Allocation of 2000 for game.

Do what?

Ooh Betty
24-10-2017, 01:44 PM
Allocation of 2000 for game.

Rubbish

old git
24-10-2017, 01:47 PM
Chris Waters is saying the same on twitter.

IanH
24-10-2017, 02:22 PM
Think we only got 2k for the play-off game?

pallet
24-10-2017, 02:24 PM
Hope we return the favour and only give them 2000. Thought their ground holds 30k?

ForzaPalace
24-10-2017, 02:31 PM
Chris Waters is saying the same on twitter.

Chris Waters source is probably that post in fairness

Selhurst Celtic
24-10-2017, 02:41 PM
Hope we return the favour and only give them 2000. Thought their ground holds 30k?

I was told by a poster on here last week, who is pretty itk when it comes to ticketing, that both sides will be restricting allocation to 2k on police advice.

Quite how Celtic & tafkar cope with large away allocations when they play each other, yet a Palace v Brighton fixture is subjected to such horseshit restrictions I do not know. Either way it sucks. I'll personally struggle to get a ticket, but will probably travel down anyway.

Johnnieboy
24-10-2017, 02:50 PM
Will we take the full 2k?




;)

Dobbo
24-10-2017, 02:59 PM
Though away club were entitled to 10% ??

eagle mart
24-10-2017, 03:03 PM
Police obvious is obvious.

As will be they will only get 2,000 in return. That's the chatter.

Bubble Wrap
24-10-2017, 03:04 PM
I'm probably not gunna be able to get a ticket for this am I with about 1000 points?

A bus ticket maybe.

elgrande
24-10-2017, 03:23 PM
Still going down anyway,if i dont get one..watch the game in a nice unfriendly pub:hi:

Ooh Betty
24-10-2017, 03:28 PM
If this is true it's an absolute ******* pisstake.

Get down there at 11am and cause mayhem anyway.

Pinkie Brown
24-10-2017, 03:30 PM
Any news on when they might go on sale?

old git
24-10-2017, 03:31 PM
I was told by a poster on here last week, who is pretty itk when it comes to ticketing, that both sides will be restricting allocation to 2k on police advice.

Quite how Celtic & tafkar cope with large away allocations when they play each other, yet a Palace v Brighton fixture is subjected to such horseshit restrictions I do not know. Either way it sucks. I'll personally struggle to get a ticket, but will probably travel down anyway.

Newcastle /Sunderland, chelsea/West Ham/Arsenal/ Spurs plus numerous others dont have all this .Us and the Tarquins are hardly at the top table with regard to football violence so why do we get this shit?

old git
24-10-2017, 03:44 PM
Any news on when they might go on sale?

Probably 29/11/17.

Keith Powell
24-10-2017, 03:45 PM
It is true what Chris is saying we will get 2,000 and they will get the same when they come to us .There will be a special train going from East Croydon to Falmer and back after.It is also possible Coaches might pick up and drop of at hooley.

Tony Montana
24-10-2017, 03:55 PM
I'm sure the trust put up a good fight to combat this.

elgin eagle
24-10-2017, 04:12 PM
It is true what Chris is saying we will get 2,000 and they will get the same when they come to us .There will be a special train going from East Croydon to Falmer and back after.It is also possible Coaches might pick up and drop of at hooley.

I thought the law is typically usually 3000 or 10% of capacity as a minimum and why we cant put the away fans in the whitehorse (only holds 1960) :confused: Not sure why they are so worried about a load of long term season ticket holders anyway.

scro
24-10-2017, 04:15 PM
I thought the law is typically usually 3000 or 10% of capacity as a minimum and why we cant put the away fans in the whitehorse (only holds 1960) :confused: Not sure why they are so worried about a load of long term season ticket holders anyway.

I genuinely think the away fans would be more influential in the whitehorse.

elgin eagle
24-10-2017, 04:22 PM
I genuinely think the away fans would be more influential in the whitehorse.

They are pretty influential to the lino where they are already. Cant totally blame 4 years of shit home form on that alone though :)

PeterH
24-10-2017, 04:30 PM
It's a disgrace if this is true.

Other than kettling and a march up the main street, and the same at Selhurst. And a seemingly incident free pair of play off games. Where has the trouble been for this fixture?

The play off semi would have been as high profile as you can imagine.

What would have been the situation if the positions had been slighly different and the two teams had met in the final at Wembley?

Restrictions like this shouldn't be allowed just to make the police force's job easier. Which is what it looks like to me.

For Place fans missing out, I would look into avenues of getting tickets in the home ends via contacts and mates.

If it kicks off then we can point the finger at the police incompetence and their ridiculous restrictions.

Ooh Betty
24-10-2017, 09:24 PM
Just spoken to a BHA 'very in the know' chap.

Seems these rumours are bollocks, although can't be 100% certain.

Maybe some 'In the knows' here are bored outside of the transfer window and seeking attention in other ways.

eagle mart
24-10-2017, 09:29 PM
No ticket? Just head to spoons. Join the escort. And you'll be allowed in, probably through a opened 'on police advice' turnstyle.

cpfc4evandeva
24-10-2017, 10:12 PM
I'm sure the trust put up a good fight to combat this.

:D

HRP
24-10-2017, 10:45 PM
I genuinely think the away fans would be more influential in the whitehorse.

Lol , we could play with no away fans and it wouldnít make any difference

Dorking .Eagle
25-10-2017, 12:06 AM
I'm sure the trust put up a good fight to combat this.

The Trust were at the planning meeting where it was announced. I believe the logic was that the normal away bit at Selhurst holds c2800, but net the front few rows, and a bit more segregation at the side and you get 2000.

It will be the same at both games.

Tony Montana
25-10-2017, 08:12 AM
The Trust were at the planning meeting where it was announced. I believe the logic was that the normal away bit at Selhurst holds c2800, but net the front few rows, and a bit more segregation at the side and you get 2000.

It will be the same at both games.

The Trust are just a mouthpiece for the club. I am unsure of their actual purpose. I just read the minutes of the last meeting and I am not sure they hold enough power to be at all influential.

Ooh Betty
25-10-2017, 09:34 AM
The Trust are just a mouthpiece for the club. I am unsure of their actual purpose. I just read the minutes of the last meeting and I am not sure they hold enough power to be at all influential.

They are just desperate for another administration to give them a sense of importance.

Chris K
25-10-2017, 09:49 AM
No ticket? Just head to spoons. Join the escort. And you'll be allowed in, probably through a opened 'on police advice' turnstyle.

This is what happened at the 3-0 to them away game

mether
25-10-2017, 10:21 AM
The Trust were at the planning meeting where it was announced. I believe the logic was that the normal away bit at Selhurst holds c2800, but net the front few rows, and a bit more segregation at the side and you get 2000.

It will be the same at both games.

Must be a big segregation area to lose 800 seats.

selhursthoover
25-10-2017, 10:57 AM
It is 2,000.

ForzaPalace
25-10-2017, 11:04 AM
Dreading this game tbh

jamieb73
25-10-2017, 11:06 AM
They are just desperate for another administration to give them a sense of importance.

Bang on mate

Ooh Betty
25-10-2017, 11:10 AM
Been told by someone with very close connections to Brighton that in conjunction with the police and both clubs we have been offered the full 3000.

If we don't take them then serious questions need to be asked of our club.

elgin eagle
25-10-2017, 12:13 PM
Have to take 3000 if offered surely?

Keith Powell
25-10-2017, 12:15 PM
The Trust are just a mouthpiece for the club. I am unsure of their actual purpose. I just read the minutes of the last meeting and I am not sure they hold enough power to be at all influential.

If we are to have any more influence on what decisions are made by the club then we either need more support for the trust or need to form a supporters club like we had in the past.I have suggested that on here before but it seems nobody is interested.

Scrumpy
25-10-2017, 12:25 PM
From the "Trust" minutes:

"The Club were meeting with Brighton on 17/10 pm to discuss the fixture. The Trust indicated that Club coaches stopping at Hooley en- route and on return was welcomed by fans south of the M25 when the play off semi-final took place and would want similar arrangements for this game. The Club would certainly consider this. A ‘special’ train from East Croydon and a ‘Beamback’ to Selhurst are also being considered."

Mictor Voses
25-10-2017, 05:06 PM
Dreading this game tbh

Same here but I'm still going to go anyway.

HRP
25-10-2017, 05:19 PM
From the "Trust" minutes:

"The Club were meeting with Brighton on 17/10 pm to discuss the fixture. The Trust indicated that Club coaches stopping at Hooley en- route and on return was welcomed by fans south of the M25 when the play off semi-final took place and would want similar arrangements for this game. The Club would certainly consider this. A Ďspecialí train from East Croydon and a ĎBeambackí to Selhurst are also being considered."

Jesus Christ , how many trains an hour go to Lewes and Brighton from East Croydon , London Bridge and Victoria . The beam back idea is poor , the game will be broadcast round the world via the internet . Canít see more than 500 people who donít have access to a stream and would be interested in a beamback.

The trouble at Brighton has always been the ridiculously small train station after the game

pauldrulez
25-10-2017, 05:45 PM
At times like this, it was great to have Steve B on here.

He'd have the stats on how many fans are on each level of loyalty points etc.

I think it'll drop to Stage 3. Midweek, people have been there already, are bored etc. The fans at the playoff semi seemed very different to the usual away crowd.

HRP
25-10-2017, 06:17 PM
At times like this, it was great to have Steve B on here.

He'd have the stats on how many fans are on each level of loyalty points etc.

I think it'll drop to Stage 3. Midweek, people have been there already, are bored etc. The fans at the playoff semi seemed very different to the usual away crowd.

Depends what stage 3 is , 2500 points and you will be struggling

danpalace07
26-10-2017, 12:48 AM
Newcastle /Sunderland, chelsea/West Ham/Arsenal/ Spurs plus numerous others dont have all this .Us and the Tarquins are hardly at the top table with regard to football violence so why do we get this shit?

easy for the police to push us around, the clubs won't moan too much

Scrumpy
26-10-2017, 07:08 AM
Jesus Christ , how many trains an hour go to Lewes and Brighton from East Croydon , London Bridge and Victoria . The beam back idea is poor , the game will be broadcast round the world via the internet . Can’t see more than 500 people who don’t have access to a stream and would be interested in a beamback.

The trouble at Brighton has always been the ridiculously small train station after the game

I think the special train would go from East Croydon direct to Falmer, and back again, thus reducing the number of people needing to change at Brighton/Lewes etc. I agree though about the Beamback. I'm not going to go as have been Brighton twice already, so would probably watch it at home on the internet.

Kirby
26-10-2017, 08:28 AM
Dreading this game tbh

Same here, but then I was dreading the playoff semi second leg.

We generally do better when we have our backs against the wall so I'm hoping for more of the same here, even if we do go on and lose the following 10.

Booked our hotel ages ago so hoping two of us can get tickets. I'm pushing 5,000 points but my mate's somewhere in the 3,000s.

Selhurst Celtic
26-10-2017, 10:00 AM
I think the special train would go from East Croydon direct to Falmer, and back again, thus reducing the number of people needing to change at Brighton/Lewes etc. I agree though about the Beamback. I'm not going to go as have been Brighton twice already, so would probably watch it at home on the internet.

I'll have your ticket please, Scrumpy. Think of the Parish points!

Nelson Muntz
26-10-2017, 10:05 AM
I'm dreading it.
I hate them and losing to them hurts.
Can lightning strike fr a third time though?

sherstonpalace
26-10-2017, 01:44 PM
Anyone got any tips about using Car Park A at the Amex?

ForzaPalace
26-10-2017, 02:23 PM
Anyone got any tips about using Car Park A at the Amex?

Don't wear colours and don't have anything Palace related in or on your car

Ooh Betty
26-10-2017, 03:04 PM
Anyone got any tips about using Car Park A at the Amex?

Yes. Don't use it. Go by train and drink heavily. Brighton is not the place for sober, sensible fans at all.

M3 Eagle
26-10-2017, 05:15 PM
Ticket details to be published on the club website tomorrow.

Dorking .Eagle
26-10-2017, 05:18 PM
Away season ticket holders on sale Monday and Tuesday only.

"The full sales procedure will be published on www.cpfc.co.uk tomorrow morning and it is important you read all the information before you purchase"

Making me somewhat curious what is so different about this game that they should say that, when all away season ticket holders will have been to stacks of away games before!

ProudandPalace
26-10-2017, 05:49 PM
I think we are all dreading this match......if we can win one away match this season, it needs to be this one.

mikethetie2010
26-10-2017, 06:10 PM
Any idea how many away season tickets we have this year

cpfc4evandeva
26-10-2017, 06:12 PM
If we lose, I have no doubt that we'll stay up on the final day at their expense. They are under our heel and there they will remain. A nothing club, who's biggest claim to fame is getting beaten by us.

Chillo
26-10-2017, 06:32 PM
I'm dreading it.
I hate them and losing to them hurts.
Can lightning strike fr a third time though?

Yes; keep the faith; it's the Palace way :lux:

Dorking .Eagle
26-10-2017, 06:52 PM
Any idea how many away season tickets we have this year

My best guess is circa 120 or thereabouts. (I had a count up of the number of seats sold in the away s/t phase for the Liverpool away game).

Keith Powell
26-10-2017, 07:02 PM
Any idea how many away season tickets we have this year

I heard it is 192 away ST holders

OriginalNutter
26-10-2017, 07:19 PM
I managed to bag a ticket for the playoff semi. Still one of the best games I've ever been to.

IanH
26-10-2017, 07:21 PM
Making me somewhat curious what is so different about this game that they should say that, when all away season ticket holders will have been to stacks of away games before!


They might want the option of picking one of the fans to play centre forward! [emoji15]

Ooh Betty
26-10-2017, 07:23 PM
Out of interest how do people know that there will be something on the website tomorrow?

I only every get intermittent emails from the club. Completely incomptent.

CharlieCPFC
26-10-2017, 07:26 PM
Out of interest how do people know that there will be something on the website tomorrow?

I only every get intermittent emails from the club. Completely incomptent.

Away season ticket holders have had it confirmed there will be info on there tomorrow and ticket sales will be Monday and Tuesday for those and then Wednesday onwards for the rest.

mikethetie2010
27-10-2017, 07:50 AM
Cheers dorking and keith. I should be ok then.

Scrumpy
27-10-2017, 08:54 AM
I'll have your ticket please, Scrumpy. Think of the Parish points!

If I qualify for a ticket (I have 3506 points), I'll happily buy a ticket on behalf of another Palace fan.

Dorking .Eagle
27-10-2017, 09:10 AM
Just read the info on the official site - 2000 tickets only and names on tickets. No bags other than the smallest of bags

Dorking .Eagle
27-10-2017, 09:13 AM
Loyalty points phases start at 4300, then go down to 4200, 4100, 4000 then a free for all

jmemour
27-10-2017, 09:21 AM
https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2017/october/brighton-away-match-ticket-information/

2,000 allocation which will be reciprocated at our home game in April. Absolute joke. How are other derbies allowed full allocations and we're not? It's pathetic.

eagle mart
27-10-2017, 09:21 AM
I qualified for the PO semi ticket with ease. Not looking great for this.

Surely they're expecting 80% + of tickets to be sold before it drops under 4000? Otherwise the points differences wouldn't be so small.

jmemour
27-10-2017, 09:25 AM
I qualified for the PO semi ticket with ease. Not looking great for this.

Surely they're expecting 80% + of tickets to be sold before it drops under 4000? Otherwise the points differences wouldn't be so small.

I'd imagine they expect it all to sell out by then to be honest. Who isn't going to go with that many points?

crenoleagle
27-10-2017, 09:25 AM
I'll be in band 1 and get a ticket but both clubs are a disgrace for agreeing to such a low allocation.

Nelson Muntz
27-10-2017, 09:30 AM
Tickets for our away Premier League match against Brighton & Hove Albion on Tuesday 28th November, kick-off 7.45pm, will be on sale from 10am on Monday 30th October.

Our allocation has been limited to 2000, which will be reciprocated when Brighton visit us at Selhurst Park in April 2018. To ensure that supporters do not miss out the club will be showing the match at Selhurst Park on the stadium big screen live on the night and this Beam back will be open to all Season Ticket Holders and current paid members.

It will be a ticket only event and tickets cost £5 (£10 on the day and on the night at the Holmesdale Box Office) which includes your first drink being FREE of charge. See below for further details of the Beamback.

Match Tickets Sales

Before purchasing your ticket for this fixture please read these important security details and if you have any questions please contact the box office at Selhurst Park.

- Prior to entry to the Stadium you MUST be in possession of your original CPFC Season Ticket / Membership card – not a copy or a photograph

- Supporters purchasing tickets for this fixture will have their name written on their individual ticket.

- Before entry is allowed into the Amex Stadium security staff will be checking the name on each ticket and this has to match up with your season ticket/membership card (which must also be shown at the point of entry).

- If the name on the match ticket does not match your season ticket/membership card you will be refused entry into the stadium.

These ticket rules have been agreed between both clubs and will be enforced on the evening of the game.

Ticket will be on sale in the following order.

Phase 1

Monday 30th October from 10am

Away Season Ticket Holders only

One ticket per client reference

Phase 2

Wednesday 1st November from 10am

Season Ticket Holders & Paid Members with 4300+ Loyalty Points

One ticket per client reference

Phase 3

Friday 3rd November from 10am

Season Ticket Holders & Paid Members with 4200+ Loyalty Points

One ticket per client reference

Phase 4

Monday 6th November from 10am

Season Ticket Holders & Paid Members with 4100+ Loyalty Points

One ticket per client reference

Phase 5

Tuesday 7th November from 10am

Season Ticket Holders & Paid Members with 4000+ Loyalty Points

One ticket per client reference

If any tickets remain after phases 1-5, general sale will be confirmed subject to availability.

Loyalty Points can be viewed at any time, by logging into your account selecting “My Account”, then “Loyalty Points”.

Tickets will be priced at:

Adults - £30

Seniors (65+) - £23

U-21 - £23

Juniors (U18) - £15

Supporters with disabilities receive a free Personal Assistant ticket (must be booked in person at the Box Office, or by calling 08712 000 071).

Security

Brighton & Hove Albion F.C. will allow small handbags and clutch bags into the stadium, anything bigger than this will not be allowed into the stadium. Stewards will also be carrying out 100% pat down searches prior to entry into the stadium and supporters are encouraged to arrive at the stadium as early as possible to avoid queues. Gates will open two hours before kick off at 5:45pm.

Coaches

Coach travel will be available for this match.

They will depart Selhurst Park 3pm and priced at £17 per seat.

There will also be an additional pick up point at Hooley Starbucks on the A23 at 3:45pm .Supporters who wish to be picked up at Hooley will only be able to purchase their coach ticket via the box office either in person or over the phone on 08712 00 00 71.

Travel in and around the stadium.

Brighton and Hove Albion F.C. operate a sustainable travel plan which includes travel on local buses and trains from Haywards Heath covered in the cost of the match ticket.

There will be a football special train after the game leaving Falmer Station, stopping at Three Bridges, East Croydon and Clapham Junction and Victoria.

For full details of travel options to the Amex

Beam Back

For any fans who don’t want to travel to the Amex or are unable to purchase a ticket, this is the perfect way to watch the first game between the sides since we beat Brighton in that historic semi-final play-off victory.

Doors will be open to supporters at 6:30pm. Tickets will cost £5 in advance and £10 on the day.

Along with watching the game on the big screen with fellow fans in the Holmesdale Stand, supporters will also get a free drink voucher on entry and will be able to exchange for any drink (excluding spirits.)

The Food kiosks will also be open for hot food pre- match and at half time and supporters will also have the chance to purchase the match programme on the night for £3.50

Match tickets, coach travel and Beam back tickets will be available to book online HERE by calling the ticket line on 08712 00 00 71, or in person at the Box Office

Shipp Ahoy!
27-10-2017, 09:31 AM
Think I will just miss out on this now.

Probably a blessing in disguise!

eagle mart
27-10-2017, 09:31 AM
Why don't they just play both games with no away fans. And be done with it.

Tossers.

dav434
27-10-2017, 09:32 AM
Anyone know how many people actually have 4000 points?

wrightchipvcfc
27-10-2017, 09:35 AM
Realy think both clubs over doing it how much actual trouble at Amex games last few years maybe they just don't want many palace around Brighton area all day and having to police it . I've been arsenal Chelsea spurs games ect with mates there's hardly any gap in ground and just let them out same time after don't see no reduced allocation not saying this because I won't get a ticket as in phase 1 but not fair on both clubs fans a 1000 fans will miss out.

Dorking .Eagle
27-10-2017, 09:37 AM
Anyone know how many people actually have 4000 points?

Presumably the top 2000 loyalty points takes things down to 4300 if 100% of eligible people bought a ticket?

A small % who are entitled won't go, as it's an evening game and work commitments etc

The season tickets don't have a photo on them so anyone looking to pass on their named ticket would simply lend their season card to that person at the same time. Can't see many eligible people passing up the chance to go to this one though

TheMexicanHorse
27-10-2017, 09:39 AM
Easiest way for this allocation was to give first dibs to those on the 2010 creditors list

**** the new breeds

Kirby
27-10-2017, 09:43 AM
I've got almost 5,000 points so will be fine but my mate (who's been to every away game with me this season) has just fallen short :sob:

cpfc4evandeva
27-10-2017, 09:45 AM
A real show that Steve Browett is not involved in the club any more :(

A sad state of affairs, for both clubs.

jmemour
27-10-2017, 09:47 AM
I've got almost 5,000 points so will be fine but my mate (who's been to every away game with me this season) has just fallen short :sob:

I went to 11 aways last year and have done 4 already this year, still nowhere near, guess I don't buy enough "merch" :shy:

wrightchipvcfc
27-10-2017, 09:47 AM
No ticket? Just head to spoons. Join the escort. And you'll be allowed in, probably through a opened 'on police advice' turnstyle.

Be more space in away bit if only 2000 tickets sold could be police expect this to happen and this way be room to let ticketless fans in

eagle mart
27-10-2017, 09:49 AM
Be more space in away bit if only 2000 tickets sold could be police expect this to happen and this way be room to let ticketless fans in

Lets Cologne it :D

cpfc4evandeva
27-10-2017, 09:52 AM
Whoever agreed to the 2000 limit just cannot be a Palace fan. This is utter bollocks.

wrightchipvcfc
27-10-2017, 09:54 AM
Lets Cologne it :D

Long walk down m 23 better leave day before

Kirby
27-10-2017, 10:00 AM
Lets Cologne it :D

:supergrin:

If it postpones the game 'til we have a striker then I'm all for it.

Jimmy Eagle
27-10-2017, 10:00 AM
ruined my day

Ooh Betty
27-10-2017, 10:02 AM
Still being told that we were offered the 3000 tickets agreed by the OB.

Will be interesting to see how many BHA get from us next year. Something here doesn't ring true to me. In fact it reeks.

Kirby
27-10-2017, 10:04 AM
Will be interesting to see how many BHA get from us next year. Something here doesn't ring true to me. In fact it reeks.

It clearly states on the website that BHA will be given the same allocation at Selhurst.

Still shit though.

cantspell
27-10-2017, 10:09 AM
What a load of bollox

Dorking .Eagle
27-10-2017, 10:10 AM
Palace will need to tighten up ticket sales for the game at Selhurst - don't sell home end tickets through ticket agencies like we do for most home games, hence all the foreign visitors most games in the Arfur.

If Japanese tourists can get tickets so easily, then so could BHA fans unless Palace really clamp down for the fixture

Ooh Betty
27-10-2017, 10:26 AM
It clearly states on the website that BHA will be given the same allocation at Selhurst.

Still shit though.

Yes i know what it says. Perish the thought that our website would put out complete bollocks.

eagles #1
27-10-2017, 10:31 AM
Just checked my loyalty points...

We only get 20 for Bristol City away?! ******* deserve at least 200 for that shit.

JannerEagle
27-10-2017, 10:31 AM
Still being told that we were offered the 3000 tickets agreed by the OB.

Will be interesting to see how many BHA get from us next year. Something here doesn't ring true to me. In fact it reeks.

Why would Palace refuse an extra 1K? I dont get it? :confused:

Also just been told by a BHA ST holder that it was a police request!

Kirby
27-10-2017, 10:33 AM
Yes i know what it says. Perish the thought that our website would put out complete bollocks.

They won't go back on that, no matter how unreliable the website normally is.

Dorking .Eagle
27-10-2017, 10:33 AM
Why would Palace refuse an extra 1K? I dont get it? :confused:

Maybe the Trust bods know a bit more and might wish to share it?

If push comes to shove the minutes of the SAG meeting can be obtained via an FOI request

Just guessing but wonder if the options were 3k allocation comes with a bubble (and associated costs) or 2k and these minimal restrictions???

tasty_snacks
27-10-2017, 10:34 AM
Adds to the littany of evidence that football fans are treated like children. Incapable of thinking independently or analysing situations.

"We have 2000 tickets, and Brighton will get the same."

That is completely unacceptable as a statement. Populism at its worst. You might as well say, "We think you're all idiotic chattel and we will do with you as we wish. But because we think you're puerile, we're going to tell you that we've also got a low blow in on Brighton by limiting them to the same. Waaaahaaaayyyyy."

It would be really lovely if, for a change, the authorities that make these decisions justified them. You know, like in every other fc@king aspect of life.

jmemour
27-10-2017, 10:35 AM
Maybe the Trust bods know a bit more and might wish to share it?

Just guessing but wonder if the options were 3k allocation comes with a bubble (and associated costs) or 2k and these minimal restrictions???

I know this is just speculation but if it's something like this where it's fans vs cost it's an utter disgrace.

SteveyHawking
27-10-2017, 10:38 AM
Being over the 4300+ I'm happy with this but I'm surprised that the drop is 100 points per phase. There must be over 2000 people with 4000+ otherwise it doesn't make sense for tickets after the final points phase becoming a free-for-all.

tasty_snacks
27-10-2017, 10:38 AM
Maybe the Trust bods know a bit more and might wish to share it?

Having been on the Trust board for a few years previously, I can say with complete confidence that CPST would try to shine a light on any situation where the fans were being screwed.

New LP
27-10-2017, 10:54 AM
Why don't they just play both games with no away fans. And be done with it.



Tossers.


So who is responsible for this?

Does this happen with any other Derby in the Premier League. Even ones like Man Utd v Liverpool or Arsenal v Spurs?

IanH
27-10-2017, 10:55 AM
Probably a stupid question but if someone has exactly 4300 points are they in Phase 2 or Phase 3?

New LP
27-10-2017, 10:56 AM
I know this is just speculation but if it's something like this where it's fans vs cost it's an utter disgrace.


I suspect the club didnít want to pay for extra policing.

Itís easier to take 2000 tickets and then have a beam back where money will be spent at Selhurst.

Sums up the way Palace is run.

Nelson Muntz
27-10-2017, 11:02 AM
Coaches

Coach travel will be available for this match.

They will depart Selhurst Park 3pm and priced at £17 per seat.

There will also be an additional pick up point at Hooley Starbucks on the A23 at 3:45pm .Supporters who wish to be picked up at Hooley will only be able to purchase their coach ticket via the box office either in person or over the phone on 08712 00 00 71.


Why can't you simply buy a coach ticket with your match ticket?
I wonder if they'll use common sense and sell coach tickets this Saturday?

Dorking .Eagle
27-10-2017, 11:05 AM
Having been on the Trust board for a few years previously, I can say with complete confidence that CPST would try to shine a light on any situation where the fans were being screwed.

I knew about the 2000 allocation on Friday night last week from someone who knows someone in the Trust, so I'd be surprised if they (The Trust) don't know at least something about the rationale behind the decision

sherstonpalace
27-10-2017, 11:16 AM
Yes. Don't use it. Go by train and drink heavily. Brighton is not the place for sober, sensible fans at all.

Thanks but for those of us with no option other than driving, any more constructive parking tips?

aj4england
27-10-2017, 11:21 AM
Is it too late too buy an away season ticket? Been to all away games so far so may as well have got one!

aj4england
27-10-2017, 11:22 AM
Thanks but for those of us with no option other than driving, any more constructive parking tips?

Park at Lewes and get the train in. Did it for the 3-1. Very easy in.

Sir.S.C Remembered
27-10-2017, 11:26 AM
Park at Lewes and get the train in. Did it for the 3-1. Very easy in.


But speed getting back to Lewes?

cjcpfc
27-10-2017, 11:29 AM
So who is responsible for this?

Does this happen with any other Derby in the Premier League. Even ones like Man Utd v Liverpool or Arsenal v Spurs?

I believe the big clubs do a ballot for popular away games. Imagine the outcry if we had done that. If we did someone will suggest a set criteria to qualify for the ballot.. It will be never ending

3 Beers at HT
27-10-2017, 11:30 AM
Realy think both clubs over doing it how much actual trouble at Amex games last few years maybe they just don't want many palace around Brighton area all day and having to police it . I've been arsenal Chelsea spurs games ect with mates there's hardly any gap in ground and just let them out same time after don't see no reduced allocation not saying this because I won't get a ticket as in phase 1 but not fair on both clubs fans a 1000 fans will miss out.

Really think both clubs are over doing it. How much actual trouble at the Amex games over the last few years?

Maybe they just don't want that many Palace around the Brighton area all day, and having to police it?

I've been to Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs games etc., with mates, there's hardly any gap in the grounds and they just let them out at the same time afterwards. I don't see a reduced allocation.

I'm not saying this because I won't get a ticket, as in phase 1, but it's not fair on both clubs fans as 1000 fans will miss out.

tasty_snacks
27-10-2017, 11:31 AM
For both the 3-1 and the 0-3 I parked in the housing estate to the south, about a 15 min walk from the ground. There were a couple of police notices stating no parking on the outskirts by the main road, but there were no formal restrictions.

This was several years ago now of course so things may have changed.

RobertCPFC
27-10-2017, 11:31 AM
For the trains it is worth buying the tickets online in advance, or on the day?

Selhurst Celtic
27-10-2017, 11:40 AM
I suspect the club didnít want to pay for extra policing.

Itís easier to take 2000 tickets and then have a beam back where money will be spent at Selhurst.

Sums up the way Palace is run.

I'm also thinking along these lines. Also not sure how the 'free drink' works at the beamback when you have to pay £5 (£10 on the day) to get in. Still, it might swell the coffers ever so slightly and that's what is important. Sod the fans that actually want to go and support the team.

Dorking .Eagle
27-10-2017, 11:41 AM
For both the 3-1 and the 0-3 I parked in the housing estate to the south, about a 15 min walk from the ground. There were a couple of police notices stating no parking on the outskirts by the main road, but there were no formal restrictions.

This was several years ago now of course so things may have changed.

Yes that has changed. All of Moulsecoomb and Coldean are officially residents only now.

andyocpfc
27-10-2017, 11:42 AM
Great - my option are now:

A) Try and get a ticket via Brighton mates and have to suffer the humiliation if they shaft us but least Iím at the game (albeit in person rather than vocal support) or...

B) Watch at home drinking beer and able to shout around to my hearts content but not actually be at the match.

Decisions decisions.

Scrumpy
27-10-2017, 11:42 AM
No matter how they did the tickets people would have a reason to whinge. If you didn't expect serious tickets restrictions for this match then you are deluded. I'm going to miss out as only have 3500 points, but I'm not complaining. It is what it is unfortunately.

Sp1Eagle
27-10-2017, 11:44 AM
Whoever agreed to the 2000 limit just cannot be a Palace fan. This is utter bollocks.

Should be sacked.

Tony Montana
27-10-2017, 11:49 AM
Ah well, I am sure when we are back in the championship next year and getting 15k gates, the club will look at where it all went wrong

MENTALLY TOUGH
27-10-2017, 11:52 AM
Ah well, I am sure when we are back in the championship next year and getting 15k gates, the club will look at where it all went wrong

Will be lucky to get 15k when bottom of the Championship if Tuesday night was anything to go by.

tasty_snacks
27-10-2017, 11:57 AM
No matter how they did the tickets people would have a reason to whinge. If you didn't expect serious tickets restrictions for this match then you are deluded. I'm going to miss out as only have 3500 points, but I'm not complaining. It is what it is unfortunately.

I think you've missed the point. Yes, allocating tickets based on points is essentially a no win situation, but the complaints aren't about that (for a change).

The question is, rightly, why is there a 2000 cap? And why won't those that made this decision be transparent about their logic behind it?

SKATE
27-10-2017, 11:58 AM
Why can't you simply buy a coach ticket with your match ticket?
I wonder if they'll use common sense and sell coach tickets this Saturday?

And why on earth is it leaving so early at 3pm? Grounds not even open until 5.45!

brighton_eagle
27-10-2017, 12:01 PM
I thought the minimum allocation in the Premier League was 3k or 10% of the capacity if it's lower than 30000?

Edit: I misread - seems that's the maximum.

SHIPEAGLE
27-10-2017, 12:02 PM
Coaches leaving at 3pm for a journey of 90 minutes so could easily be there by 5pm totally ridiculous timing to go with ridiculous ticket allocation.
Who is responsible for the continued shambles at the Club
Perhaps someone at the Club would like to explain to supporters why 1,000 cant get a ticket when i am not aware of any other Premier League game where tickets are restricted to the away Club for matches that have more liklihood of trouble ie London derbies involving Chelsea, Tottenham, West Ham etc or Man Utd going to Anfield.
Once again Palace supporters are being singled out and it is totally wrong.

EddieEdwards
27-10-2017, 12:02 PM
For a number of away matches in recent years the club have chosen to take an allocation smaller than the demand. This is a higher profile situation but it's not much different really. Even if the restriction was the police's idea, it's hard to imagine the club putting up much of a fight about it when they've already shown on numerous occasions that they're perfectly happy to exclude some of their own fans from attending away matches to reduce costs and make their own lives a bit easier.

switchboard
27-10-2017, 12:04 PM
10,000 on the beaches of Brighton, surely it makes more sense to have away fans in the stadium than it does running riot outside?

tasty_snacks
27-10-2017, 12:10 PM
Coaches leaving at 3pm for a journey of 90 minutes so could easily be there by 5pm totally ridiculous timing to go with ridiculous ticket allocation.
Who is responsible for the continued shambles at the Club
Perhaps someone at the Club would like to explain to supporters why 1,000 cant get a ticket when i am not aware of any other Premier League game where tickets are restricted to the away Club for matches that have more liklihood of trouble ie London derbies involving Chelsea, Tottenham, West Ham etc or Man Utd going to Anfield.
Once again Palace supporters are being singled out and it is totally wrong.

What he said. This inquiry is warranted, and we deserve answers.

andyocpfc
27-10-2017, 12:11 PM
What actually happens to the other 1000 seats?

Are they just left empty or do they sell them to home fans (with a small amount used as segregation) ?

aj4england
27-10-2017, 12:12 PM
What actually happens to the other 1000 seats?

Are they just left empty or do they sell them to home fans (with a small amount used as segregation) ?

Sold to home fans with extra segregation

aj4england
27-10-2017, 12:13 PM
I'm also thinking along these lines. Also not sure how the 'free drink' works at the beamback when you have to pay £5 (£10 on the day) to get in. Still, it might swell the coffers ever so slightly and that's what is important. Sod the fans that actually want to go and support the team.

Because if you have 1 drink chances are you will then go on and buy further food and drink.

Thefunkymonk
27-10-2017, 12:14 PM
the Reaction to this is so OTT.

elgin eagle
27-10-2017, 12:14 PM
Great - my option are now:

A) Try and get a ticket via Brighton mates and have to suffer the humiliation if they shaft us but least Iím at the game (albeit in person rather than vocal support) or...

B) Watch at home drinking beer and able to shout around to my hearts content but not actually be at the match.

Decisions decisions.

Same here Andy. At least you havent shelled out for flights and hotel already :(

Bloody overkill. They'll get more trouble now than if they'd just been sensible and adult about things.

Sp1Eagle
27-10-2017, 12:14 PM
the Reaction to this is so OTT.

It really isn't.

danpalace07
27-10-2017, 12:15 PM
Beamback will be a laugh again. Funny how this is treated worse than the Old Firm by the clubs though - have you seen the segregation in that? About 3 seats gap...

hope everyone going has a great night and laughs in their smug Tarquin faces. 2k Palace will still outsing the plastic *****

New LP
27-10-2017, 12:16 PM
No matter how they did the tickets people would have a reason to whinge. If you didn't expect serious tickets restrictions for this match then you are deluded. I'm going to miss out as only have 3500 points, but I'm not complaining. It is what it is unfortunately.


Why should we expect ticket restrictions for this match?

No other derby in the league has this. Even those involving the Man Utdís, Chelseaís, West Hamís etc. Weíve played them before with full allocations and there hasnít been a great deal of trouble.

People have every right to Ďwhingeí about it.

Payney
27-10-2017, 12:18 PM
If the plod have decided on 2k allocations then fair enough, not much the clubs can do about it. If the clubs have between them agreed 2k then this is a pile of shite.

Would be good to know.

keltic eagle
27-10-2017, 12:18 PM
Same here Andy. At least you havent shelled out for flights and hotel already :(

Bloody overkill. They'll get more trouble now than if they'd just been sensible and adult about things.

We should all go down to brighton beach in our palace colours and watch it on sports donkey or whatever. Massive ******* party. LETS DO IT PEOPLE :supergrin:

Thefunkymonk
27-10-2017, 12:18 PM
It really isn't.

It really is.

Did anyone actually expected anything else?

Knob ends kick off every time we play which result in reduced allocation. Happens with other rivals aswel.

With regards to those missing out on points system.. oh well. I miss out just.. but canít be helped thatís the system

Thefunkymonk
27-10-2017, 12:19 PM
Why should we expect ticket restrictions for this match?

No other derby in the league has this. Even those involving the Man Utdís, Chelseaís, West Hamís etc. Weíve played them before with full allocations and there hasnít been a great deal of trouble.

People have every right to Ďwhingeí about it.

Yes they do.

Mictor Voses
27-10-2017, 12:19 PM
What's the train journey like from Haywards Heath?

New LP
27-10-2017, 12:19 PM
the Reaction to this is so OTT.


Itís the biggest game of the season and 1000 people wonít be able to go. You get that right?

tasty_snacks
27-10-2017, 12:20 PM
the Reaction to this is so OTT.

How do you get to work every morning? Train? Bus? Tube?

So one day, TFL decides that instead of putting on transport for 3000 people as it is mandated to do, it puts on only enough for 2000. And all it says in informing you is that this will be mirrored in the opposite direction. Do you just shrug your shoulders in a pique of c'est la vie? Or do you think that warrants an explanation?

OTT? Is it bollocks.

SHIPEAGLE
27-10-2017, 12:20 PM
if the Crystal Palace Supporters Trust represent supporters then they should make strongest complaint to the Club on behalf of their members but i expect them not to say a word.
I may take this up with the Premier League, FSF and the 2 Clubs as it is totally unfair on law abiding supporters who wish to go to the game

New LP
27-10-2017, 12:21 PM
Yes they do.


No they donít.

Liverpool and Man Utd have the full allocation at both games.

Arsenal and Tottenham certainly do.

Chelsea did at West Ham and vice versa.

West Ham took 5000 to Spurs last night.

Those clubs will probably pay for the policing though so they can have the maximum support.

Mad Raschic Ken
27-10-2017, 12:22 PM
3pm is ridiculously early for the coaches. Looks like the train instead. The info on the football special isn't exactly extensive though. Would be good to know a rough indication of when it will leave. Wouldn't be surprised if it's basically after everyone else has gone home and we've been kept waiting in the rain for an hour or two!

Sp1Eagle
27-10-2017, 12:24 PM
Yes they do.

They really don't.

elgin eagle
27-10-2017, 12:24 PM
Beamback will be a laugh again.

Tempted to go to this instead than trying to blag into the home ends and the difficulty of sitting on my hands for 96 minutes and holding Chris down should some magic occur. Can always get a train to the hotel in Brighton afterwards i suppose.

bill_man
27-10-2017, 12:26 PM
You obviously don’t travel on Southern, they do this all the time!

crowboro eagle
27-10-2017, 12:26 PM
You also guarantee for the return fixture we will have less Home tickets so we can have massive great divide between the fans. The majority being sh@t on because of a few random nobheads

Ooh Betty
27-10-2017, 12:36 PM
If the plod have decided on 2k allocations then fair enough, not much the clubs can do about it. If the clubs have between them agreed 2k then this is a pile of shite.

Would be good to know.

Or the third option that this is Palace's decision only. I know where my money is on.

tasty_snacks
27-10-2017, 12:40 PM
Or the third option that this is Palace's decision only. I know where my money is on.

Factually implausible. Brighton are also only getting 2k, so they would have to be in agreement at the very least.

But we're all guessing.

Nth Kent Eagle
27-10-2017, 12:52 PM
Why have we only got 2,000 tickets? Is it because of police restrictions, a joint agreement by the clubs or a decision pushed for by Palace alone? If it was a police or Brighton decision what action did the Palace board take to try to get it changed? 1,000 Palace fans will not now be able to attend the match. Given that we now have no official communications between the board and the fans I don't suppose we will ever know. However, I do think this is something that the chief executive should explain to his loyal customers. Once again the fans are being treated with contempt.

HRP
27-10-2017, 12:52 PM
What would happen if you turned up wearing a Burqua ?

Bubble Wrap
27-10-2017, 12:59 PM
You also guarantee for the return fixture we will have less Home tickets so we can have massive great divide between the fans. The majority being sh@t on because of a few random nobheads

Well no because the away end will have less fans in it so even with a bigger devide we should have the same amount.

Bubble Wrap
27-10-2017, 01:00 PM
Why have we only got 2,000 tickets? Is it because of police restrictions, a joint agreement by the clubs or a decision pushed for by Palace alone? If it was a police or Brighton decision what action did the Palace board take to try to get it changed? 1,000 Palace fans will not now be able to attend the match. Given that we now have no official communications between the board and the fans I don't suppose we will ever know. However, I do think this is something that the chief executive should explain to his loyal customers. Once again the fans are being treated with contempt.

both clubs would have agreed on it. The police cannot restrict it. This effects us more than them as they dont take more than 1000 to away games anyway.

elgin eagle
27-10-2017, 01:01 PM
What would happen if you turned up wearing a Burqua ?

Think 500 people turning up in burquas might arouse suspicion. Monty Python comes to mind :) Could say we were the HF i suppose. (in mime obviously).

andyocpfc
27-10-2017, 01:01 PM
Same here Andy. At least you havent shelled out for flights and hotel already :(



Bloody overkill. They'll get more trouble now than if they'd just been sensible and adult about things.


Ffs, youíre kidding [emoji20]. Thatís fóking terrible. What will you do, fly and go to Selhurst or cut your losses and stay at home and swallow the flights/hotel?

Iím not guaranteed a ticket but I have a couple of mates that can normally get me one but TBH, itís bloody hard being in the home end with them all and sitting on my hands whilst keeping my mouth shut. As much as the match day experience is always better than tv, on occasions like this Iím swaying on the stay at home and watch.

elgin eagle
27-10-2017, 01:03 PM
Ffs, youíre kidding [emoji20]. Thatís fóking terrible. What will you do, fly and go to Selhurst or cut your losses and stay at home and swallow the flights/hotel?

Iím not guaranteed a ticket but I have a couple of mates that can normally get me one but TBH, itís bloody hard being in the home end with them all and sitting on my hands whilst keeping my mouth shut. As much as the match day experience is always better than tv, on occasions like this Iím swaying on the stay at home and watch.

We were saying knowing our luck we'll be refused entry to the beamback.

TheMexicanHorse
27-10-2017, 01:03 PM
Sure SB will be dishing out tickets to his mates as per norm

Boycott Cronx

elgin eagle
27-10-2017, 01:05 PM
Fly and go to Selhurst Andy. Then down to Brighton after armed only with a JCB.

eagle mart
27-10-2017, 01:07 PM
If you have an Amex card holder you'll be able to get tickets. Wont be in the stand you want though.

SuttonExile
27-10-2017, 01:10 PM
What a joke.

SuttonExile
27-10-2017, 01:13 PM
Why can't fans without a season ticket or paid membership go to the bloody beamback?. Some of us can't buy a membership let alone a season ticket every year.

Absolutely ridiculous rules for the game and the beamback.

andyocpfc
27-10-2017, 01:27 PM
Fly and go to Selhurst Andy. Then down to Brighton after armed only with a JCB.


Thatís commitment for you. Nice work [emoji106]. You also donít know, someone on here might come up trumps with a ticket or two if last minute they canít make for whatever reason.

Dorking .Eagle
27-10-2017, 01:29 PM
One for Nelson Muntz - if BHA are only getting 2000 seats at Selhurst could we squeeze them all in the Whitehorse Lane Stand for the night and gain the acoustic advantage of having the Arfur as 100% Palace fans?

andyocpfc
27-10-2017, 01:33 PM
One for Nelson Muntz - if BHA are only getting 2000 seats at Selhurst could we squeeze them all in the Whitehorse Lane Stand for the night and gain the acoustic advantage of having the Arfur as 100% Palace fans?


I take your point but I always thought it was proved as an advantage to opposing fans behind the goal rather than to the side. Donít know why mind.

cpfc4evandeva
27-10-2017, 01:37 PM
Sure SB will be dishing out tickets to his mates as per norm

Boycott Cronx

Explain?

Scrumpy
27-10-2017, 01:41 PM
Why should we expect ticket restrictions for this match?

No other derby in the league has this. Even those involving the Man Utd’s, Chelsea’s, West Ham’s etc. We’ve played them before with full allocations and there hasn’t been a great deal of trouble.

People have every right to ‘whinge’ about it.

My point is after "the Holmesdale wall" a few seasons ago, nothing surprises me any more when it comes down to matches between Palace and our rivals. This is the sort of match thousands would have wanted to go to, so there was always going to be disappointed people.

As others have said, would people have been happy with a full allocation of 3000 if it meant it was a bubble game for example? I can understand the disappointment and frustration, but unfortunately no amount of complaining is going to change that.

The decision has been made by both clubs/the police and we just have to live with it.

Payney
27-10-2017, 01:55 PM
From Bozza on the NSC-

No, I heard it wasn't a police decision but the clubs themselves.

I know a man who'll know - I'll ask now.

Dorking .Eagle
27-10-2017, 01:56 PM
This affects us more than them as they dont take more than 1000 to away games anyway.

Indeed - half their away fans only buy the tickets to earn loyalty points so they can get to visit the other team they support.

https://www.themag.co.uk/2017/09/newcastle-rival-taking-action-half-fans-tickets-didnt-go-match-brighton-v-newcastle-united/

Scrumpy
27-10-2017, 01:58 PM
Quote from the Premier League Handbook (https://pulse-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/premierleague/document/2017/09/27/bfb4b8a2-55c4-45c4-a5f0-c2abbd6a6f4b/PL_Handbook_2017-18_FINAL.pdf).


"Unless otherwise agreed by the Board or between the Clubs, and subject to Rule R.10, at each League Match, the Home Club shall make available to the Visiting Club:
R.9.1. 3,000 tickets or, if the capacity of the Home Clubís Stadium is less than 30,000, such number of tickets as is equal to 10 per cent. of its Stadium capacity; and (whether or not that allocation is taken up)
R.9.2. tickets for a minimum of 10 per cent. of the Home Clubís disabled spectator accommodation."

Selhurst Celtic
27-10-2017, 02:01 PM
From Bozza on the NSC-

No, I heard it wasn't a police decision but the clubs themselves.

I know a man who'll know - I'll ask now.

Interesting.

zuper zalace
27-10-2017, 02:05 PM
Sure SB will be dishing out tickets to his mates as per norm

Boycott Cronx

*retweet*

Ooh Betty
27-10-2017, 02:06 PM
both clubs would have agreed on it. The police cannot restrict it. This effects us more than them as they dont take more than 1000 to away games anyway.

There is no evidence that Brighton have agreed to any such thing.

Sp1Eagle
27-10-2017, 02:06 PM
From Bozza on the NSC-

No, I heard it wasn't a police decision but the clubs themselves.

I know a man who'll know - I'll ask now.

:veryangry

Payney
27-10-2017, 02:06 PM
both clubs would have agreed on it. The police cannot restrict it. This effects us more than them as they dont take more than 1000 to away games anyway.

The police can restrict away fans. Although this time it would appear to be the clubs who have done it.

Nth Kent Eagle
27-10-2017, 02:08 PM
If it was a decision by the clubs then it will blow apart the relationship between the board and the fans. Everyone is already fed up after the failure to take our full allocation at other away matches, the mistakes in the transfer window and the crap performances on the pitch. Whoever took this decision has shown contempt for the supporters. (Unless there is another reason that could be explained to us).

Ooh Betty
27-10-2017, 02:10 PM
Why can't fans without a season ticket or paid membership go to the bloody beamback?.

Do you really think anyone at the club gives a rats arse?

Just another way to piss everybody off. Surprised it isn't Parish points as well.

Just wait for Barnsley away on a Tuesday night next season. 4000 Parish points and a reduced allocation of 50 tickets for no reason at all.

Ooh Betty
27-10-2017, 02:12 PM
(Unless there is another reason that could be explained to us).

Fat chance of any meaningful communication from the club.

Ooh Betty
27-10-2017, 02:17 PM
However, I do think this is something that the chief executive should explain to his loyal customers

Ha ha ha.

Thefunkymonk
27-10-2017, 02:19 PM
Itís the biggest game of the season and 1000 people wonít be able to go. You get that right?

Well actually 1000ís canít go. FWIW I miss out, but possible I could of got one of the 1000 you mention. What will Be will be.

I also can see why itís been done. Too many bellends spoil it for others.


Be interesting to know who made the decision

Thefunkymonk
27-10-2017, 02:22 PM
How do you get to work every morning? Train? Bus? Tube?

So one day, TFL decides that instead of putting on transport for 3000 people as it is mandated to do, it puts on only enough for 2000. And all it says in informing you is that this will be mirrored in the opposite direction. Do you just shrug your shoulders in a pique of c'est la vie? Or do you think that warrants an explanation?

OTT? Is it bollocks.

Dunno how getting to work everyday is the same as going to an away game which was highly possible to have smaller allocation due to ****tards in the past..

As to an explanation.. itís fairly obvious itís due to problems in past.

Like I say.. im missing out.. probably could go for one if allocation was bigger.. but it ainít.. never mind (weíll prob lose anyway :D)

Ooh Betty
27-10-2017, 02:30 PM
As to an explanation.. itís fairly obvious itís due to problems in past.



Utter rubbish. Why do Millwall, Leeds and others not get this shite then?

Dorking .Eagle
27-10-2017, 02:31 PM
3pm is ridiculously early for the coaches. Looks like the train instead.

Maybe they are being cautious after Bristol City:-

Coaches parked 15 mins walk to the ground only arrived on KO