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Chillo
04-10-2017, 10:59 AM
So Richard Scudamore is at it again, trying to skew a new TV deal to benefit the 'top six' clubs:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41494042

"Under pressure from the six richest clubs, the league's executive chairman Richard Scudamore has proposed ending 25 years of the equal sharing of international broadcasting income".

Random*
04-10-2017, 03:33 PM
Or what? They'll form a European 'Super League'

Good.

Bye!

richdeniro
04-10-2017, 03:34 PM
Surely it would be like Turkey's voting for Christmas if the other teams voted in favour of it and the chances of another Leicester happening or even a surprise team making the top 4 would be even lower than they are now.

ScottHooky
04-10-2017, 03:45 PM
Don't let the door hit you on the backside on your way out fellas

Nicebitofgreen
04-10-2017, 03:51 PM
They're all off to form a European League with that Catalonian team anyway.

Palace Dan
04-10-2017, 04:06 PM
They're all off to form a European League with that Catalonian team anyway.

Sooner the glory teams shove off and leave the proper teams in peace the better.... greedy glory hunters brutally soulless and immersed in their own ego...:hi:

davech
04-10-2017, 04:10 PM
Sooner the glory teams shove off and leave the proper teams in peace the better.... greedy glory hunters brutally soulless and immersed in their own ego...:hi:

This x 1000

eagles #1
04-10-2017, 05:50 PM
Not that it'll effect us...

...But surely the other Premier League clubs would never vote for this?!

the drexciyan
04-10-2017, 06:07 PM
The top 6 are just tourist clubs anyway now. They can leave and let the true people get their game back.

TheMexicanHorse
04-10-2017, 06:09 PM
Not that it'll effect us...

...But surely the other Premier League clubs would never vote for this?!

They won’t, not the remaining 14 anyways.

The “top six” do have a point, the billion epl viewers worldwide don’t tune in to watch Palace V Burnley. That doesn’t attract the subscribers.

Although the EPL must be careful here, in theory, one of the EPL success is that maybe four or five teams could realistically win the league at the start of the season, And it’s not that unusual to see a “smaller club” beat a bigger club, ie Chelsea away last season. It’s An appeal of the brand, in theory again, this happens because the tv cash is distributed equally, allowing the “smaller clubs” to retain and attract players of a certain quality.

Let’s brutally honest here, no one wants to watch the GPL, wether your in the Far East surrounded by wealth or in a shanty town somewhere in Africa. That’s the potential danger the EPL could find here.

Let’s just hope we are involved in this discussions next season.

BringbackShipps
04-10-2017, 06:22 PM
Should they have more of a 1/20th say in what happens as well? In real life the richest in society are taxed the hardest, these f@ckers should be supporting the football pyramid not keeping everything for themselves.

Dorking .Eagle
04-10-2017, 06:30 PM
The top 6 already make loads more than most of the rest anyway - they have or are getting the biggest grounds. They have thousands of tourist fans every game spending a fortune on merch and stadium tours etc. And they have the additional revenue from playing in Europe.

All they want the extra money for is to spend more on players anyway, what a waste

SE5eagle
04-10-2017, 06:42 PM
Tossers.

spy
04-10-2017, 06:52 PM
They won’t, not the remaining 14 anyways.

Evening Standard said Everton, West Ham and Leicester are all going to vote for it.

They are also planning to parachute payments so the EPL clubs can kee a bigger share.

tomlig
04-10-2017, 06:55 PM
The top 6 already make loads more than most of the rest anyway - they have or are getting the biggest grounds. They have thousands of tourist fans every game spending a fortune on merch and stadium tours etc. And they have the additional revenue from playing in Europe.

All they want the extra money for is to spend more on players anyway, what a waste
nail on head hit here. if anything, something else could be done (not money) to level the playing field and make the stupid league even more attractive every week. 20 teams playing each other or the same 8 playing each other 4 or 5 times...even the fans of those top6 will get bored with that. The big matches retain their cachet cos it's not every other week...

dave_who_ru
04-10-2017, 07:09 PM
No vote today and to be discussed further at their next meeting in November. Standard claims Newcastle and Watford were tempted by the idea that part of the overseas pot would be distributed according to a club's final league position:

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league-clubs-refuse-to-back-big-six-plan-for-bigger-share-of-tv-cash-a3650791.html

SP firmly against.

Dorking .Eagle
04-10-2017, 07:48 PM
Part of the attraction of the PL is that the 'small clubs' can and do beat the bigguns.

When Burnley beat Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on opening day, it was 1st on Match of the Day!

Our 3-3 against Liverpool was the best thing in ages and stuffed up their title.

Chelsea were nowhere near being in the 'big 6' 20 years ago - they'd won very little really. When Abramovic gets knocked off, give it 2 seasons and they'll be like Liverpool post the 1980s

And what have Spurs actually won in the last 25 years? One League Cup!!!l

Billy Rhino
04-10-2017, 08:58 PM
The problem with this is football is an international game. The ultimate top clubs in football are Barcelona and Real Madrid, and both of these clubs hoard the money to themselves in their league. Therefore in order to compete or even overtake these clubs the big English clubs want as much money as possible so that they can sign the next Messi or Ronaldo.

Sadly if the other clubs don't give in then eventually it will end up with all clubs negotiating individual tv deals with the likes of Amazon etc. Imagine the likes of us and other small clubs doing that? It would be a financial disaster.

rambo1
04-10-2017, 09:08 PM
The top 6 are just tourist clubs anyway now. They can leave and let the true people get their game back.

Absolutely.
Need to Find away to Get Money Down to the Lower Leagues.
Sky have Helped by giving some Coverage.

Daniel_Nash
05-10-2017, 04:53 AM
Football continues to eat itself.

tomlig
05-10-2017, 07:25 AM
Football continues to eat itself.
A good analogy that hopefully comes home to roost forcing the beautiful game to be reset

Kai
05-10-2017, 07:38 AM
The beginnings of the European Super League. In time the top clubs will break away to form their own pan-European league so they an have all the money to themselves.

old git
05-10-2017, 07:43 AM
No vote today and to be discussed further at their next meeting in November. Standard claims Newcastle and Watford were tempted by the idea that part of the overseas pot would be distributed according to a club's final league position:

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league-clubs-refuse-to-back-big-six-plan-for-bigger-share-of-tv-cash-a3650791.html

SP firmly against.

No point SP spending too much time worrying about it.

Ralph
05-10-2017, 07:44 AM
The beginnings of the European Super League. In time the top clubs will break away to form their own pan-European league so they an have all the money to themselves.

Absolutely. It's actually already well underway given the massive expansion of the Champions League and the talk of wild card entrants like Milan and Man Utd.

Next steps will be the request by the "Big 6" to reduce the size of the Premier League (if it reduces down to 18 first and then 16, they can entice clubs to vote in favour as they're likely to get a bigger slice of the TV pot).

The Champions League will continue to expand and look to territories with big TV audiences, maybe Chinese and IPL clubs joining it).

old git
05-10-2017, 07:44 AM
The beginnings of the European Super League. In time the top clubs will break away to form their own pan-European league so they an have all the money to themselves.

The fans won't want it.Liverpool fans would rather watch their team against Everton than some club from Belgium.

eaglejez
05-10-2017, 08:08 AM
as is becoming apparent the TV money is becoming irrelevant in the scheme of things. It all goes to the players anyway :(

Chillo
05-10-2017, 09:21 AM
The fans won't want it.Liverpool fans would rather watch their team against Everton than some club from Belgium.

What the fans want is largely irrelevant, sadly; we're only there to provide a bit of noise and colour in the background of 'their' product. :wallbash:

WorthingEagle
05-10-2017, 09:30 AM
The beginnings of the European Super League. In time the top clubs will break away to form their own pan-European league so they an have all the money to themselves.

In a league containing Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus, Bayern Munich, PSG etc., someone has to be last and take a pasting every week. They'd soon come crawling back when they're only winning five games a season in half-empty stadiums.

Dorking .Eagle
05-10-2017, 09:42 AM
Celtic

pallet
05-10-2017, 09:56 AM
Fast forward 5 years on talksport, fans phoning in complaining about kick off times.
Caller" The tv companies dont care about us, how are we going to get back from Glasgow on Christmas eve after a 8pm kick off?"

Also we they have promotion and relegation into and from the greed league?

old git
05-10-2017, 09:59 AM
Fast forward 5 years on talksport, fans phoning in complaining about kick off times.
Caller" The tv companies dont care about us, how are we going to get back from Glasgow on Christmas eve after a 8pm kick off?"

Also we they have promotion and relegation into and from the greed league?

They won't want promotion or relegation which means most clubs will have nothing to play for each season. It would become boring pretty quickly and the TV companies would not pay huge monies to have games with half empty stadiums.

Ralph
05-10-2017, 10:05 AM
They won't want promotion or relegation which means most clubs will have nothing to play for each season. It would become boring pretty quickly and the TV companies would not pay huge monies to have games with half empty stadiums.

Could see them taking the US approach to Sports if that's the case.

Expect various group to knock out stages to the season just to keep hopes alive for longer.

costner
05-10-2017, 10:07 AM
What happens when the top 6 in the breakaway superleague want to keep more of the superleague money than the rest? Do they start a superduperleague? And on and on until it's just Neymar doing balancing a ball on his head in the centre circle of the Parc des Princes?

Johnnieboy
05-10-2017, 10:14 AM
What happens when the top 6 in the breakaway superleague want to keep more of the superleague money than the rest? Do they start a superduperleague? And on and on until it's just Neymar doing balancing a ball on his head in the centre circle of the Parc des Princes?

It'll end up as just Man U playing with themselves - w*nkers

cpfc4evandeva
05-10-2017, 10:26 AM
What the fans want is largely irrelevant, sadly; we're only there to provide a bit of noise and colour in the background of 'their' product. :wallbash:

Well that depends on which fans you're talking about...

All of these changes are only really possible if there's demand for it, and there is. 'Fans' from across the world, not ones local to the clubs.

So would Scousers prefer to see a Merseyside Derby on a Tuesday night? Sure. But what about the 'Thailand Reds'? The TV audience is far bigger than what you can fit into Anfield, so they will eventually take priority.

It's shit, but I accepted that it's going to happen long ago.

eagle mart
05-10-2017, 10:33 AM
As long as things are in the current league format, the top clubs will always get a larger piece of the cake, because they'll always have the threat of breaking away and put the PL over a barrel because of it.

eaglejez
05-10-2017, 11:00 AM
interesting dynamic given the UK market is saturated and starting to fall off a cliff ?

Daniel_Nash
05-10-2017, 11:09 AM
They won't want promotion or relegation which means most clubs will have nothing to play for each season. It would become boring pretty quickly and the TV companies would not pay huge monies to have games with half empty stadiums.

I agree with this. Almost wrote something earlier then decided not to.

After the initial hype, attendances will drop, then there is just money, and then when TV companies realise it's not popular, that will disappear as well. And then nothing.

A club like, say, FC Porto or Benfica, would go from 1-2 in their own league to 10-11 in a Super League. That's no fun for their fans, once they start to lose interest, so do others, and the idea collapses. It's already happened with the Champions League as they weight it further in the favour of the very few.

Palace Dan
05-10-2017, 11:10 AM
The fans won't want it.Liverpool fans would rather watch their team against Everton than some club from Belgium.

Do the fans really matter or have a say? The TV rights sadly drive this don’t they?

Dorking .Eagle
05-10-2017, 11:17 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if the biggest clubs get sooo rich, that they end up playing their reserves in the Prem (like they already do in the FA Cup and League Cup) and save their best players for the CL

old git
05-10-2017, 11:22 AM
Do the fans really matter or have a say? The TV rights sadly drive this don’t they?

No doubt, but grounds with no atmosphere will not make good TV.

Daniel_Nash
05-10-2017, 11:23 AM
Do the fans really matter or have a say? The TV rights sadly drive this don’t they?

If they stop going to the games, TV interest and the money would drop massively. No one wants to watch a games played in an empty stadium week after week.

cpfc4evandeva
05-10-2017, 12:08 PM
The big clubs will get so much money from a Euro League deal, they would probably just reduce ticket prices if attendances really started to fall.

chelmsfordeagle
05-10-2017, 12:19 PM
In a league containing Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus, Bayern Munich, PSG etc., someone has to be last and take a pasting every week. They'd soon come crawling back when they're only winning five games a season in half-empty stadiums.

This is more or less the point I was going to make. Also in Spain they are moving towards more equality believing that the more equal sharing of money in the Prem is a key reason to its popularity over La liga.

richdeniro
05-10-2017, 12:20 PM
I think the main reason investors (particularly American) invest in Premier League clubs is because they are hoping one day they will be able to negotiate individual tv deals like Barca/Madrid do. Their value and revenue will sky rocket once that happens. This proposal would bring us one step closer to that.

My mate works within the television side of football and reckons we haven't even got close to the ceiling yet and a crash wouldn't happen for at least another decade, if at all. They haven't even scratched the surface when it comes to worldwide tv rights, internet/youtube/FB/Amazon streaming, etc. The next few deals will only get bigger and bigger.

The first 1 million a week player is probably only a couple of years away and the Qatar World Cup will unleash another huge stream of cash from the Middle East.

chelmsfordeagle
05-10-2017, 12:22 PM
Well that depends on which fans you're talking about...

All of these changes are only really possible if there's demand for it, and there is. 'Fans' from across the world, not ones local to the clubs.

So would Scousers prefer to see a Merseyside Derby on a Tuesday night? Sure. But what about the 'Thailand Reds'? The TV audience is far bigger than what you can fit into Anfield, so they will eventually take priority.

It's shit, but I accepted that it's going to happen long ago.

This is all true but will the thailand red accept Liverpool finishing 18th 3 seasons in a row and will they continue to cough up money to see this? I'm not so sure.

sw16girl
05-10-2017, 01:38 PM
I think the main reason investors (particularly American) invest in Premier League clubs is because they are hoping one day they will be able to negotiate individual tv deals like Barca/Madrid do. Their value and revenue will sky rocket once that happens. This proposal would bring us one step closer to that.

My mate works within the television side of football and reckons we haven't even got close to the ceiling yet and a crash wouldn't happen for at least another decade, if at all. They haven't even scratched the surface when it comes to worldwide tv rights, internet/youtube/FB/Amazon streaming, etc. The next few deals will only get bigger and bigger.

The first 1 million a week player is probably only a couple of years away and the Qatar World Cup will unleash another huge stream of cash from the Middle East.

Does your mate think that the fall in viewing in the UK is insignificant then? Surely the possibility of streaming etc is fraught with piracy problems. I'm not saying you are wrong but it is not completely clear what is going to happen and this may be why the big clubs are now even more concerned. Sky are obviously having problems with falling numbers and subscriptions which is why they have revamped their offerings.

As far as I am concerned they can all feck off but others may well feel differently

Kylie_Tracey
05-10-2017, 02:18 PM
I think the main reason investors (particularly American) invest in Premier League clubs is because they are hoping one day they will be able to negotiate individual tv deals like Barca/Madrid do. Their value and revenue will sky rocket once that happens. This proposal would bring us one step closer to that.

My mate works within the television side of football and reckons we haven't even got close to the ceiling yet and a crash wouldn't happen for at least another decade, if at all. They haven't even scratched the surface when it comes to worldwide tv rights, internet/youtube/FB/Amazon streaming, etc. The next few deals will only get bigger and bigger.

The first 1 million a week player is probably only a couple of years away and the Qatar World Cup will unleash another huge stream of cash from the Middle East.

I remember reading an article in The Times a short while after The Glazers purchased ManU that their long term plan was the hope they could make every single Man U game PpV, I dont know the extent of their and other NFL teams but isnt that the way generally in how NFL is broadcast there? I wonder if they still have these ambitions?

Adlerhorst
05-10-2017, 02:20 PM
I think the main reason investors (particularly American) invest in Premier League clubs is because they are hoping one day they will be able to negotiate individual tv deals like Barca/Madrid do. Their value and revenue will sky rocket once that happens. This proposal would bring us one step closer to that.

My mate works within the television side of football and reckons we haven't even got close to the ceiling yet and a crash wouldn't happen for at least another decade, if at all. They haven't even scratched the surface when it comes to worldwide tv rights, internet/youtube/FB/Amazon streaming, etc. The next few deals will only get bigger and bigger.

The first 1 million a week player is probably only a couple of years away and the Qatar World Cup will unleash another huge stream of cash from the Middle East.

Again that only makes sense for six or seven clubs. The rest will still be better off with collective bargaining, whether we have only scratched the surface or not.

Se9 eagles
05-10-2017, 03:20 PM
In a league containing Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus, Bayern Munich, PSG etc., someone has to be last and take a pasting every week. They'd soon come crawling back when they're only winning five games a season in half-empty stadiums.

Maybe we could get a wild card:lux:?

Chillo
05-10-2017, 09:50 PM
The big clubs will get so much money from a Euro League deal, they would probably just reduce ticket prices if attendances really started to fall.

... like what's happened for the PL, you mean?

OK, so perhaps attendances haven't really started to fall that much in the PL, as there's nearly always a large tourist pool from which to trawl.

cpfc4evandeva
05-10-2017, 09:56 PM
Exactly. It's called supply and demand.

cpfc4evandeva
05-10-2017, 09:58 PM
This is all true but will the thailand red accept Liverpool finishing 18th 3 seasons in a row and will they continue to cough up money to see this? I'm not so sure.

A good point. I wonder if a Euro League like this, with absolute guaranteed wealth and no relegation, would consider some kind of American draft system?

thehalifaxman
06-10-2017, 06:53 AM
I'm going to take a knee next Saturday when the premier league anthem is played. who is with me?

SE5eagle
06-10-2017, 07:04 AM
I am, but I'll be cupping the balls.

Lombardo's hair
06-10-2017, 08:27 AM
They won’t, not the remaining 14 anyways.

The “top six” do have a point, the billion epl viewers worldwide don’t tune in to watch Palace V Burnley. That doesn’t attract the subscribers.

Although the EPL must be careful here, in theory, one of the EPL success is that maybe four or five teams could realistically win the league at the start of the season, And it’s not that unusual to see a “smaller club” beat a bigger club, ie Chelsea away last season. It’s An appeal of the brand, in theory again, this happens because the tv cash is distributed equally, allowing the “smaller clubs” to retain and attract players of a certain quality.

Let’s brutally honest here, no one wants to watch the GPL, wether your in the Far East surrounded by wealth or in a shanty town somewhere in Africa. That’s the potential danger the EPL could find here.

Let’s just hope we are involved in this discussions next season.
That is probably why they get the favourable decisions. To keep international viewers happy? And watching

Palace Dan
06-10-2017, 12:15 PM
I am not convinced it is a bad thing if the big 6 go off to Europe to fawn in their own greed. Tv money falls since no one wants to watch Palace v Burnley etc..?? Necessarily bad??

Football needs to take a reality check. Average U.K. salary £25k pa..... average weekly pay of prem footballer probs above that.

I would rather watch football where the teams that play are more of an equal. Where it is the genuine skill of the players management and spirit shines through and not the size of the bank balance or which bzillionaire is bankrolling their plaything.

Frankly I really turned against football as it is now when after supporting Palace until I was hoarse at Wembley v the glory hunters.... they as a whole didn’t really care about winning a tin pot cup. More worrying was not being in champions league trough and needing to bin their manager.

I wouldn’t have minded so much not ever seeing my team win a proper cup if it had been to a club that cared. We lost to a brand that was underperforming.

I don’t have a season ticket now and frankly don’t really miss the premier league. Will go once or twice a season but would rather watch Palace compete with teams that care....

Don’t watch prem on tv nor champions league very often. It’s a branded product and not a sporting competition to me. Naive of me I know. :(

Palace Dan
14-10-2017, 07:12 PM
:(Interesting what the throbbing six or whatever they call themselves think today?? Probably exactly the same I guess:(

MFBias
16-10-2017, 11:37 AM
The European Super League effectively ****s all the clubs in Europe who may qualify for European competitions, its not just ruining our top flight but every nation's. Too much exposure to the top teams playing each other will lose it's 'excitement' and 'value' (to the neutral - I dont watch anything other than Palace) even Man U vs Liverpool was whipped up by the press this week and that only happens twice a season, could you keep up that hype for all these games over a season, people would start to get desensitised to it, and what would have been Inter Milan vs Liverpool would be viewed the same as Palace vs Burnley would now.

Great spectacle two of the breakaway clubs had at the weekend, an exciting nil nil draw... On talksport it sounded like they were trying to make hype for a game that wasnt there, Jim White having whole shows on who are more passionate fans, Liverpool or Man U.... ******* BORING,

Jim White, 'Here we have a Liverpool fan, tell us who is more passionate'
Liverpool Fan 'We are Jim'

Jim White, 'Here we have a Man U fan, tell us who is more passionate'
Man U Fan 'We are Jim'

Great Radio.

OriginalNutter
16-10-2017, 11:57 AM
[QUOTE=richdeniro;13882164 My mate works within the television side of football and reckons we haven't even got close to the ceiling yet and a crash wouldn't happen for at least another decade, if at all. They haven't even scratched the surface when it comes to worldwide tv rights, internet/youtube/FB/Amazon streaming, etc. The next few deals will only get bigger and bigger. QUOTE]

Amazon and Netflix are aparently preparing to bid on the next rights issue. It's going to be crazy sums involved.

Ralph
16-10-2017, 12:19 PM
Be interesting to see what this does to things. How will Amazon and Netflix package the deals if they win them??

I worry we’ll see the rights broken down further and further meaning us poor punters then need Sky, BT, Amazon and Netflix just to get the live coverage.

cpfc4evandeva
16-10-2017, 12:38 PM
The European Super League effectively ****s all the clubs in Europe who may qualify for European competitions, its not just ruining our top flight but every nation's. Too much exposure to the top teams playing each other will lose it's 'excitement' and 'value' (to the neutral - I dont watch anything other than Palace) even Man U vs Liverpool was whipped up by the press this week and that only happens twice a season, could you keep up that hype for all these games over a season, people would start to get desensitised to it, and what would have been Inter Milan vs Liverpool would be viewed the same as Palace vs Burnley would now.

Great spectacle two of the breakaway clubs had at the weekend, an exciting nil nil draw... On talksport it sounded like they were trying to make hype for a game that wasnt there, Jim White having whole shows on who are more passionate fans, Liverpool or Man U.... ******* BORING,

Jim White, 'Here we have a Liverpool fan, tell us who is more passionate'
Liverpool Fan 'We are Jim'

Jim White, 'Here we have a Man U fan, tell us who is more passionate'
Man U Fan 'We are Jim'

Great Radio.

Whilst I agree, you have to understand that we're in the minority.

MFBias
16-10-2017, 03:42 PM
Whilst I agree, you have to understand that we're in the minority.

If its the premier league the clubs in the minority are actually the 'top 6' are in the minority if it is down to votes 14 to 6, unless Ive misgathered your post?

chelmsfordeagle
16-10-2017, 03:52 PM
If its the premier league the clubs in the minority are actually the 'top 6' are in the minority if it is down to votes 14 to 6, unless Ive misgathered your post?

I think means fans like us, who pay to go and watch football. The money comes from the TV audiences around the world.

richdeniro
16-10-2017, 04:27 PM
Be interesting to see what this does to things. How will Amazon and Netflix package the deals if they win them??

I worry we’ll see the rights broken down further and further meaning us poor punters then need Sky, BT, Amazon and Netflix just to get the live coverage.

Facebook and Twitter also want some games too for pay per view.

sheepy
16-10-2017, 04:39 PM
Personally I'd be in favour of:

1) Cutting the payments clubs who finish lower down the league receive so each league place is worth a lot more.

2) Moving this money into league one & league two (maybe a bit more in the championship but that's already got shit loads of cash floating around).

Always feels weird that the bottom placed teams in the league receive £100 million plus for being a bit shit.

Plus it might keep the mid table teams a bit more interested as the season comes to a finish.

cpfc4evandeva
16-10-2017, 04:47 PM
I think means fans like us, who pay to go and watch football. The money comes from the TV audiences around the world.

^^^

MFBias
16-10-2017, 06:08 PM
^^^

I agree with the sentiment but dont see how that relates to my post regarding the advent of 6 big fixtures every weekend will result in those big games losing their rarity, and what would have been Palace Vs Burnley would be an equivalent Liverpool Vs Inter in the wider football world.

MFBias
16-10-2017, 06:11 PM
Personally I'd be in favour of:

1) Cutting the payments clubs who finish lower down the league receive so each league place is worth a lot more.

2) Moving this money into league one & league two (maybe a bit more in the championship but that's already got shit loads of cash floating around).

Always feels weird that the bottom placed teams in the league receive £100 million plus for being a bit shit.

Plus it might keep the mid table teams a bit more interested as the season comes to a finish.

With that the system the top clubs will pull away, basic money which is even among the 20 clubs (prize money for places on top) is what keeps the league more competitive than other leagues so as La Liga. Already the prize money means you win more moving up a place than winning the FA Cup, does it need to be more?

If you want to cut money to give to the lower leagues, why not take a slice from all the 20 clubs, not the ones that finish bottom half?

cpfc4evandeva
16-10-2017, 06:29 PM
I agree with the sentiment but dont see how that relates to my post regarding the advent of 6 big fixtures every weekend will result in those big games losing their rarity, and what would have been Palace Vs Burnley would be an equivalent Liverpool Vs Inter in the wider football world.

Because the people I'm talking about, who are in the majority, will not care that these fixtures will become more frequent.

They will be happier this way.

MFBias
16-10-2017, 08:58 PM
Because the people I'm talking about, who are in the majority, will not care that these fixtures will become more frequent.

They will be happier this way.

So be it.