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richard carter
23-10-2017, 08:46 PM
In 2013/14, the first season after promotion back to the Premier League, Palace had only 3 points after the first 10 games. The next 28 games saw a return of 42 points. So what's the problem?

Jim Cannon
23-10-2017, 08:49 PM
In 2013/14, the first season after promotion back to the Premier League, Palace had only 3 points after the first 10 games. The next 28 games saw a return of 42 points. So what's the problem?

Yes we can still survive, but having no striker and reliance on Wilf seems to be the problem now

New LP
23-10-2017, 10:55 PM
The other problem is that the teams we need to be struggling arenít. Huddersfield, Brighton are picking up points. People like Burnley and Watford look almost safe already. The teams at the bottom West Ham and Everton are in a false position and likely to change manager.

Billy Rhino
23-10-2017, 11:00 PM
We have a lot of winnable games now until the end of December, will still take a miracle but the Chelsea game proves there is fight in the team. Really can't afford to lose to West Ham though.

trufan
23-10-2017, 11:08 PM
It's all about goals, isn't it. Find a way of scoring and we'll move up the table. But with no strikers and with players who find it easier to miss rather than convert presentable chances, that's looking a tall order right now.

cpfc4evandeva
23-10-2017, 11:17 PM
That Pulis season wasn't a fluke, but it was a bit of freak. He made us solid but we still looked like we could easily go down until around late March, then suddenly we started flying.

I know Hodgson did his own great escape with Fulham a few years back, but when you look at the respective teams on paper, Pulis worked a miracle in keeping us up. KG, Parr, Moxey, Jerome, Gabbidon, all players that were playing regularly or semi-regularly but Pulis got something out of them.

Penstone Eagle
24-10-2017, 07:22 AM
The other problem is that the teams we need to be struggling arenít. Huddersfield, Brighton are picking up points. People like Burnley and Watford look almost safe already. The teams at the bottom West Ham and Everton are in a false position and likely to change manager.

True enough, the little bit of hope that I have is that teams will have bad runs at some stage, IF we can sort things out then there's a chance that those teams that hit bad runs struggle to recover, get key injuries etc.

But I have to say that relegation is looming for us this season due to poor management at the top. Our home form has been abysmal for so long now, maybe in the championship we'd actually see some wins.

Mad Raschic Ken
24-10-2017, 07:27 AM
We won five in a row at one point that season and we need to do something similar this season to counteract the bad start.

As others have said though, our inability to score goals is the problem. We were organised defensively on Saturday, but to dominate the game and create nothing worthwhile was alarming.

Ooh Betty
24-10-2017, 07:29 AM
We have a lot of winnable games now until the end of December, will still take a miracle but the Chelsea game proves there is fight in the team. Really can't afford to lose to West Ham though.

We've had a lot of winnable games already.

Hector
24-10-2017, 07:31 AM
I'm optimistic of things improving and picking up some points but I'm not optimistic of staying up the ask is huge. A terrible start is very difficult to come back from, every game against the bottom half teams is now must not lose and that's not liking to happen.

BillyTKid
24-10-2017, 08:00 AM
We won five in a row at one point that season and we need to do something similar this season to counteract the bad start.

As others have said though, our inability to score goals is the problem. We were organised defensively on Saturday, but to dominate the game and create nothing worthwhile was alarming.

I think that 5th win in the row came away to West Ham in the sunshine. One of my favourite Palace memories that day.

Windsor_Eagle
24-10-2017, 08:48 AM
The other problem is that the teams we need to be struggling arenít. Huddersfield, Brighton are picking up points. People like Burnley and Watford look almost safe already. The teams at the bottom West Ham and Everton are in a false position and likely to change manager.

Well there will be at least 2 other teams that'll be in the mire - it won't just be one team that gets relegated after all!

orp pisshead1
24-10-2017, 09:14 AM
We have a lot of winnable games now until the end of December, will still take a miracle but the Chelsea game proves there is fight in the team. Really can't afford to lose to West Ham though.

All of this ^^^^^ going by comments from those who went and the media we played well Saturday too so we improving. If weíre in touching distance in January imo weíll need at least a decent keeper and two strikers with one ideally being an AJ style to give us a different option. Still quietly confident but as you say need minimal a point Saturday and ideally all 3.

IanH
24-10-2017, 10:27 AM
Pulis worked a miracle in keeping us up. KG, Parr, Moxey, Jerome, Gabbidon, all players that were playing regularly or semi-regularly but Pulis got something out of them.


None of those players ever left anything out there on the pitch though - they all gave absolutely everything for the shirt and probably earned together what either Benteke or Cabaye earns now. That in a nutshell is the problem - team spirit - or lack of it.

MFBias
24-10-2017, 10:38 AM
We've had a lot of winnable games already.

Yeah Man U, Man C and Liverpool away are some easy games, even Newcastle away.

JDawg
24-10-2017, 10:48 AM
Giggs and Neville have chucked their hats in the ring for the vacant Everton and Leicester jobs. In the unlikely event either is hired there is a lot of cause to be optimistic.

RCUK
24-10-2017, 10:53 AM
I think we might be in with a bit of a shout as the other teams around us are imploding.

Getting rid of FDB so early on might have been a bit of a win in the end.

the digger
24-10-2017, 10:56 AM
Over the past 4 seasons, we have collected our points from 19, 22, 20 and 17 games. We have 29 left and only need 37ish more.

andyocpfc
24-10-2017, 11:07 AM
The other problem is that the teams we need to be struggling arenít. Huddersfield, Brighton are picking up points. People like Burnley and Watford look almost safe already. The teams at the bottom West Ham and Everton are in a false position and likely to change manager.


But then the other teams down there (West Ham, Everton) could say the same about us being in a false position - I mean, weíre not that bad that reflects we should not have 3 points. No one thought Newcastle, Villa etc would actually drop down and they did.

ForzaPalace
24-10-2017, 11:13 AM
Is Pulis coming back then?

Ooh Betty
24-10-2017, 11:51 AM
Yeah Man U, Man C and Liverpool away are some easy games, even Newcastle away.

Huddersfield, Swansea, Southampton at home.

Perhaps you could tell us what you consider to be the easier games then.

aashman12
24-10-2017, 11:55 AM
None of those players ever left anything out there on the pitch though - they all gave absolutely everything for the shirt and probably earned together what either Benteke or Cabaye earns now. That in a nutshell is the problem - team spirit - or lack of it.

Cabaye doesn't leave anything on the pitch either.

Mad Raschic Ken
24-10-2017, 12:01 PM
We have only scored in 2 of our last 14 league games. Against that backdrop, dominating a game and failing to have a shot on target is possibly more concerning than simply playing badly. It seems to me that our passing and decision-making in the attacking third just isn't good enough and we seem to have lost what threat we had from set pieces.

Hopefully it will turn for us, but it's difficult to be overly optimistic right now. At least there are signs that Roy gas got us organised defensively and, most old school managers will tell you that is the first priority. Maybe now he can find a way to make us more effective going forwards.

Jim Cannon
24-10-2017, 07:06 PM
People like Burnley and Watford look almost safe already. The teams at the bottom West Ham and Everton are in a false position and likely to change manager.

Burnley have 13 and Watford 15. Hardly safe is it, they have started well though. Hopefully Dyche will get poached and Burnley lose their way