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Ov.
25-10-2017, 05:46 AM
Rumours of Ings in January.

https://www.si.com/soccer/2017/10/24/liverpool-outcast-danny-ings-set-be-rescued-crystal-palace-january

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15615425.Crystal_Palace_interested_in_Liverpool_ou tcast/

Mr Palace
25-10-2017, 05:53 AM
Yay, another sick note striker!

Jim Cannon
25-10-2017, 06:02 AM
a very easy rumour to invent, he doesn't play, we are desperate.

rudeboy
25-10-2017, 06:18 AM
Already recruiting for the championship

orp pisshead1
25-10-2017, 06:29 AM
If this was remotely true Do we ever learn :wallbash: bad enough with CW missing.

chelmsfordeagle
25-10-2017, 06:29 AM
Yay, another sick note striker!

Is he or is he a player that had one terrible injury and then hasn't been able to get into a very good Liverpool frontline? I wasn't aware that he'd loads of injuries.

Lego Knight
25-10-2017, 06:31 AM
Is he or is he a player that had one terrible injury and then hasn't been able to get into a very good Liverpool frontline? I wasn't aware that he'd loads of injuries.

Had quite a bad one at Burnley as well I seem to recall. Definitely a good player when he's fit, but he's had some long lay-offs.

Neckinger Eagle
25-10-2017, 06:46 AM
Finding valid injury information on the internet is a bit hit and miss. I went to Transfermarkt and the first thing I saw was that a comparable player was Connor Wickham.

15/16 Cruciate Rupture 50 games missed
16/17 Knee Op 35 games missed

Still, as per usual, Liverpool now have enough warning to inflate the price and then hold out until 11pm on transfer deadline day.

It might just be a rumour, of course. I wonder whether Southampton or Watford would look at a player like Ings as a target?

Worksop Palace
25-10-2017, 07:24 AM
Frankly, who cares. We're going down. We could sign Messi and Ronaldo and we'd still go down

Latvian Eagle
25-10-2017, 07:50 AM
What's he like in goal?

whereEaglesFly
25-10-2017, 08:04 AM
Frankly, who cares. We're going down. We could sign Messi and Ronaldo and we'd still go down

Stupid :jerkit:

Worksop Palace
25-10-2017, 08:58 AM
Stupid :jerkit:

Why ?

ForzaPalace
25-10-2017, 09:04 AM
No

Roadblock
25-10-2017, 09:10 AM
I wonder whether Southampton or Watford would look at a player like Ings as a target?

Three or four years ago they might have. But I think both clubs transfer strategies have developed way beyond this.

Tim
25-10-2017, 09:14 AM
Another Steve Parish brainwave. Him & Wickham should be Match fit for next season..

Bubble Wrap
25-10-2017, 09:18 AM
Another Parish Scouting mission

V.Meldrew
25-10-2017, 09:23 AM
How would we get him as we already have 2 season long loans ?

ForzaPalace
25-10-2017, 09:50 AM
How would we get him as we already have 2 season long loans ?

Lazy journalism, that's how

brisbane_eagle
25-10-2017, 09:54 AM
Ings is not the answer; is he actually fit to play?

Nigelbrag
25-10-2017, 11:01 AM
Obviously he has got to have fully recovered to be interested in signing him, but if he has then he would make a superb signing especially if we went for a 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2 system. But i thought i had read that Liverpool are NOT interested in selling, and only on a loan deal which we currently can't do.

Jim Cannon
25-10-2017, 11:23 AM
Obviously he has got to have fully recovered to be interested in signing him, but if he has then he would make a superb signing especially if we went for a 4-4-1-1 or 4-4-2 system. But i thought i had read that Liverpool are NOT interested in selling, and only on a loan deal which we currently can't do.

This is like signing Remy or Jack Wilshere. We can't afford these kinds of risks now.

Roadblock
25-10-2017, 11:28 AM
This is like signing Remy or Jack Wilshere. We can't afford these kinds of risks now.

Yep.

Eaglefoz
25-10-2017, 11:44 AM
Finding valid injury information on the internet is a bit hit and miss. I went to Transfermarkt and the first thing I saw was that a comparable player was Connor Wickham.

15/16 Cruciate Rupture 50 games missed
16/17 Knee Op 35 games missed

Still, as per usual, Liverpool now have enough warning to inflate the price and then hold out until 11pm on transfer deadline day.

It might just be a rumour, of course. I wonder whether Southampton or Watford would look at a player like Ings as a target?

Charlie Austin!

Zohar's Penalty
25-10-2017, 12:06 PM
This would be the most Palace signing. Almost guaranteed to happen. 14 million.

Mr Palace
25-10-2017, 12:50 PM
Is he or is he a player that had one terrible injury and then hasn't been able to get into a very good Liverpool frontline? I wasn't aware that he'd loads of injuries.

When has he last played a game? He's barely played for Liverpool. We've got wickham so we don't need another sicknote. It's not worth the gamble.

chelmsfordeagle
25-10-2017, 01:34 PM
When has he last played a game? He's barely played for Liverpool. We've got wickham so we don't need another sicknote. It's not worth the gamble.

Not sure, someone else said he has had two serious injuries. I think both since joining Liverpool. I am fairly sure he has been fully fit for at least 2017 but he is 6th or 7th choice and can't even make the bench.

Mr Palace
25-10-2017, 02:09 PM
Not sure, someone else said he has had two serious injuries. I think both since joining Liverpool. I am fairly sure he has been fully fit for at least 2017 but he is 6th or 7th choice and can't even make the bench.

He was a very good striker at Burnley so he would be good if he was fit but I don't see how we can afford to take the risk. Fine if we had three other strikers all fit and playing well but we haven't.

Nigelbrag
25-10-2017, 02:29 PM
This is like signing Remy or Jack Wilshere. We can't afford these kinds of risks now.

Hence why i said IF FULLY RECOVERED.
Surely if He along with with the other Two mentioned again if fit would walk into our team. I would take Wilshire and Ings all day long.

chelmsfordeagle
25-10-2017, 03:20 PM
He was a very good striker at Burnley so he would be good if he was fit but I don't see how we can afford to take the risk. Fine if we had three other strikers all fit and playing well but we haven't.

I agree with you. The issues we might well have is that risks will be our only options.

Mr Palace
25-10-2017, 03:33 PM
I agree with you. The issues we might well have is that risks will be our only options.

I fear that will be the case.

Jim Cannon
25-10-2017, 05:18 PM
Hence why i said IF FULLY RECOVERED.
Surely if He along with with the other Two mentioned again if fit would walk into our team. I would take Wilshire and Ings all day long.

But this is where the risk is. At the moment you could say Wipshere is fully recovered from his injuries - he is fit and features mostly in cup games but is fit and available. If called upon regularly how long before another injury though? I think Ings falls into the kind of risk category that a club like us simply can't afford to take

Nigelbrag
25-10-2017, 07:42 PM
But this is where the risk is. At the moment you could say Wipshere is fully recovered from his injuries - he is fit and features mostly in cup games but is fit and available. If called upon regularly how long before another injury though? I think Ings falls into the kind of risk category that a club like us simply can't afford to take

Is the situation any different to what we have with Connor Wickham? all be it he is already on our books. What i am saying is should they play now until January it would give us an indication of their fitness before making any decisions about signing them is made.
But in any case all of this is irrelevant as i cant see Wilshire wanting to join a struggling outfit, and as Liverpool have said Ings will not be sold only a loan deal which we cant do.

Jim Cannon
25-10-2017, 08:44 PM
Is the situation any different to what we have with Connor Wickham? all be it he is already on our books. What i am saying is should they play now until January it would give us an indication of their fitness before making any decisions about signing them is made.
But in any case all of this is irrelevant as i cant see Wilshire wanting to join a struggling outfit, and as Liverpool have said Ings will not be sold only a loan deal which we cant do.

No it is not any different. But whickham arrived here without having a record as a sicknote. I am against bringing in players known to have shocking injury records. So many were excited about Remy and completely chose to ignore his injury record amd we must have wasted millions on him and he was no use to us at all

orp pisshead1
26-10-2017, 03:49 AM
No it is not any different. But whickham arrived here without having a record as a sicknote. I am against bringing in players known to have shocking injury records. So many were excited about Remy and completely chose to ignore his injury record amd we must have wasted millions on him and he was no use to us at all

This all day long ^^^^^^

Tim
26-10-2017, 06:25 AM
This all day long ^^^^^^

So, yet again no lessons have been learnt from past mistakes.

orp pisshead1
26-10-2017, 10:46 AM
So, yet again no lessons have been learnt from past mistakes.

Did you not read JC post correctly?.

glaziers fan
26-10-2017, 11:41 AM
Remy was injury prone, picking up hamstring injuries. This guy played regularly until serious injuries finished his last 2 seasons. Danny Ings would be a brilliant signing. Hard working and knows where the goal is. Also a good age. My concern would be whether the pace is still there after the injuries.

olly cromwell
26-10-2017, 11:57 AM
ings can only get better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTWm0s7ZwDY

AJ
26-10-2017, 12:40 PM
Remy was injury prone, picking up hamstring injuries. This guy played regularly until serious injuries finished his last 2 seasons. Danny Ings would be a brilliant signing. Hard working and knows where the goal is. Also a good age. My concern would be whether the pace is still there after the injuries.
Would be good on a perm for the right price as long as his injuries have not ruined him. He would be good in the championship with Wickham next season.

chelmsfordeagle
26-10-2017, 01:26 PM
Have we signed him yet?

Sceagle
26-10-2017, 01:50 PM
He's currently fit and when fit is a very good player. I'd expect him to go to the Championship at the moment though. Sturridge more likely IMO.

jimmy the gent
26-10-2017, 02:04 PM
I'd expect him to go to the Championship at the moment though.

I expect us to do likewise, sadly.

ForzaPalace
26-10-2017, 02:22 PM
'When fit is a good player'. Heard that before. Wickham. Remy. Etc etc

ANDI29
26-10-2017, 02:49 PM
I think this has freedman’s suggestion all over, he was very keen on him when he was at Bournemouth

Worksop Palace
26-10-2017, 03:43 PM
He's currently fit and when fit is a very good player. I'd expect him to go to the Championship at the moment though. Sturridge more likely IMO.

Sturridge more likely, what ?

Thefunkymonk
26-10-2017, 04:24 PM
Sturridge.. despite being one of the most injury prone players around.. us quality... but his worst trait.. the most greedy player I have ever watched. Dont like him.

Danny Ings.. if fit is ideal. But he is never fit

Jim Cannon
26-10-2017, 07:34 PM
Sturridge.. despite being one of the most injury prone players around.. us quality... but his worst trait.. the most greedy player I have ever watched. Dont like him.

Danny Ings.. if fit is ideal. But he is never fit

Sturridge deserves to be injured for that celebration alone

bgh2172
26-10-2017, 08:03 PM
At this rate we may as well find out what Liverpool want for a starting eleven!?

eagles #1
26-10-2017, 08:23 PM
Sturridge.. despite being one of the most injury prone players around.. us quality... but his worst trait.. the most greedy player I have ever watched. Dont like him.

Danny Ings.. if fit is ideal. But he is never fit

He's really not. Has looked like a donkey every time I've seen him for Liverpool and England this season. Suarez and Sterling made him look good for a couple of seasons and he's been injured for the rest.

Chillo
26-10-2017, 09:34 PM
Sturridge deserves to be injured for that celebration alone

^^^^^ this

BillyTKid
07-12-2017, 08:40 AM
We are linked with a loan if we send TFM back. Sounds like half the league interested though.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/dec/06/liverpol-danny-ings-loan-newcastle-west-ham

andyocpfc
07-12-2017, 08:59 AM
Can't believe he's only 25 - seems like he's been on the scene for donkey's years. I wouldn't be against this if we could pull it off but as always, it's his fitness and being prone to injury which is most concerning. I don't think we could/should rely on him being our only forward we purchased though.

Stavros 69
07-12-2017, 09:12 AM
And people moan about Jonny Williams who had played more games in 2 years.
At least we have Wickham to save us.

Tim
07-12-2017, 09:42 AM
if we sign another striker as well then it could be a gamble worth taking?

pots1970
07-12-2017, 09:42 AM
But what a girlfriend! makes wickhams look like a munter, ok maybe not lol

cpfc4evandeva
07-12-2017, 09:49 AM
Unfortunately, Ings and Sturridge are just the kind of wank we've ended up with in previous years that hasn't worked out. Not their fault, but they're both as bad in injury terms as Jonny Williams. Fantastic talent for sure, but not worth the risk given our situation.

andyocpfc
07-12-2017, 09:57 AM
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/665321/Crystal-Palace-Man-Utd-Danny-Ings-Liverpool-Timothy-Fosu-Mensah


More reports and goals video of his 4 he scored in the U23 recently

CPFC.1990
07-12-2017, 11:26 AM
He's OK, but will not keep us up.

bigend1
07-12-2017, 11:34 AM
Obviously the striker situation is very much influenced by Wickham but personally I'd say in the absence of news we'd best plan for the season without him and anything more is a bonus.

Assuming no Wickham, if there is any truth in this rumour I'd suggest ings would be one of two strikers we'd want to sign in January. A starting keeper too obviously and then of course we've sent back tfm if ings is here on loan so a right back will be needed. That's 4 players, not impossible but if ings comes that's what I'd expect. Roy likes 442 so two strikers wouldn't be enough

If zaha is planned is as a striker swap the second striker for a winger

GreatGonzo
07-12-2017, 11:38 AM
Obviously the striker situation is very much influenced by Wickham but personally I'd say in the absence of news we'd best plan for the season without him and anything more is a bonus.

Assuming no Wickham, if there is any truth in this rumour I'd suggest ings would be one of two strikers we'd want to sign in January. A starting keeper too obviously and then of course we've sent back tfm if ings is here on loan so a right back will be needed. That's 4 players, not impossible but if ings comes that's what I'd expect. Roy likes 442 so two strikers wouldn't be enough

If zaha is planned is as a striker swap the second striker for a winger

Agree with 2 strikers if we have no Wickham.

However we have Ward, Tomkins and Kelly who have all played RB in the PL, so a RB may not be needed. Sakho, Dann, Tomkins are clearly 1st choice CBs but others like Luka and Reidewald could slot in there. LB we have Souare, Schlupp and PVA.

Even without TFM we have 8 specialist defenders plus 2 DMs who could drop back.

RisZero
07-12-2017, 11:39 AM
For a moment there I thought we had somehow ignored that Sturridge is also a colossal sicknote himself, the kind that comes back and scores a goal but makes sure he gets injured in doing so.

ForzaPalace
07-12-2017, 11:39 AM
Ings would be Remy all over again. Complete waste of time and yet more amateur 'scouting' from our club

Happy Arthur
07-12-2017, 11:48 AM
We need a striker to hit the ground running. Even if they don't score goals straight away they need to keep the opposition busy.

GreatGonzo
07-12-2017, 11:55 AM
For a moment there I thought we had somehow ignored that Sturridge is also a colossal sicknote himself, the kind that comes back and scores a goal but makes sure he gets injured in doing so.

Sicknote, if of course we ignore the fact that after the first 2 games of the season he has been in every league and European matchday squad this season?

Not saying he hasn't had injury issues but this season he seems to have been available rather regularly.

TheCharmer1
07-12-2017, 11:58 AM
Great potential signing but how long till he’s match fit ?

DARZET EAGLE
07-12-2017, 12:04 PM
Ings would be a useful addition particularly if on loan initially. He would provide the mobility up front that we desparately need and has a great eye for goal. As always fitness would be a worry.

trufan
07-12-2017, 12:11 PM
Ings would be Remy all over again. Complete waste of time and yet more amateur 'scouting' from our club

I wish you were wrong as I really like the sound of this lad. But the club really must learn lessons from previous risks and the disasters that ensued. That said, we could sign someone with a negligible injury record and they could still get crocked. No guarantees in football are there? (Although I do remember someone years ago suggesting we invoke the warranty on Akinbye, on the basis he'd been missold and was not fit for purpose). :D

cpfc4evandeva
07-12-2017, 12:13 PM
Imagine if we sign both Ings and Sturridge. We could end up with 4 unfit strikers.

When people talk of this nonsense 'the West Ham way', maybe 'the Palace way' could be to find new interesting ways to f*ck things up.

cpfc4evandeva
07-12-2017, 12:14 PM
I wish you were wrong as I really like the sound of this lad. But the club really must learn lessons from previous risks and the disasters that ensued. That said, we could sign someone with a negligible injury record and they could still get crocked. No guarantees in football are there? (Although I do remember someone years ago suggesting we invoke the warranty on Akinbye, on the basis he'd been missold and was not fit for purpose). :D

:(

bigend1
07-12-2017, 02:52 PM
Agree with 2 strikers if we have no Wickham.

However we have Ward, Tomkins and Kelly who have all played RB in the PL, so a RB may not be needed. Sakho, Dann, Tomkins are clearly 1st choice CBs but others like Luka and Reidewald could slot in there. LB we have Souare, Schlupp and PVA.

Even without TFM we have 8 specialist defenders plus 2 DMs who could drop back.

I thought so previously but Kelly was destroyed at right back at times. He’d be targeted again and we’d struggle. He’s not really good enough at cb either.

To keep it simple assume you chose to start Dann (debatable) that means Tomkins is our only reasonable option to cover ward, Dann and Sakho.

Luka is NOT a cb

Ridewald is behind Kelly and delaney it seems and neither of those will do more than emergency cover.

It might only cost us a few points but that would likely send us down if we weren’t anyway, the margins are that tight.. we can’t be two injuries/suspensions away from disaster and having Tomkins (one of our most injury prone players) the only decent cover for 3 of our 4 defensive starters is almost that guaranteed

Mr Palace
07-12-2017, 02:58 PM
Good player but when did he last play and he's always injured. Why would we take the risk after our experience with Wickham? Really hope this isn't true.

exiledeagle
07-12-2017, 03:49 PM
So Ings is injury prone , not played competitive football for a long time and we would let TFM go leaving us no real coverfor right back . Kelly is poor full back and Tomkins bit slow there .

PalaceForever
07-12-2017, 04:02 PM
I think I'd rather have a less gifted player who is more likely to be fit. We'll need fit and able players at the end of the season, this small group will be knackered by then.

DARZET EAGLE
07-12-2017, 11:10 PM
Roy has denied any interest (Croydon Advertiser).

Dave
08-12-2017, 08:30 AM
Hope Roy is too long in tooth to go near this one.

bigend1
08-12-2017, 09:14 AM
I think I'd rather have a less gifted player who is more likely to be fit. We'll need fit and able players at the end of the season, this small group will be knackered by then.

Like... Campbell?

Latvian Eagle
08-12-2017, 09:34 AM
Hope Roy is too long in tooth to go near this one.

Roy's the one who gave him his England cap.

Celestial Empire
08-12-2017, 10:36 AM
Imagine if we sign both Ings and Sturridge. We could end up with 4 unfit strikers.

When people talk of this nonsense 'the West Ham way', maybe 'the Palace way' could be to find new interesting ways to f*ck things up.

And how much would we then have dropped to Liverpool ?

PalaceForever
08-12-2017, 11:03 AM
Like... Campbell?

Campbell was ok - energetic and chipped in the odd goal. Someone slightly better would be good, but he'd have been useful to have around over the last few months!

cpfc4evandeva
08-12-2017, 11:28 AM
Campbell was toilet and the fact that he would actually be useful this season, just shows how incredibly poor the transfer window went.

Skiddo
08-12-2017, 11:31 AM
Haircuts, sleeve tattoos, tarty Doris, always injured - Connor Wickham mk II

Steer well clear.

DARZET EAGLE
08-12-2017, 11:34 AM
Haircuts, sleeve tattoos, tarty Doris, always injured - Connor Wickham mk II

Steer well clear.

Seems you don't rate him, happily we are not interested according to our Manager.

bigend1
08-12-2017, 11:36 AM
Campbell was toilet and the fact that he would actually be useful this season, just shows how incredibly poor the transfer window went.

He wasn't toilet he wasn't great bit he was great for us.

As forth choice. Obviously he'd be higher up this season but that's our failing rather than his quality. He should be a out 4th choice striker. It's almost impossible to get as good as he is (limited) to be your 4th choice, hardly play yet always give 100% when called upon and be happy about it. You may say he's happy stealing a living but he always have his all and was by all accounts a happy influence around the club. We need four strikers and finding a 4th choice like that is harder than your top striker.

The only better option would be a young player full of potential that could be expected to perform when called upon but they are harder to find and wouldn't be as reliable.

Not a world beater but didn't deserve the shit he got sometimes

Latvian Eagle
08-12-2017, 12:41 PM
Campbell was toilet and the fact that he would actually be useful this season, just shows how incredibly poor the transfer window went.

I hate to say it but as limited at Campbell is. I actually reckon he would have stuck away at least 3 of the guilt edge chances Benteke has missed this season. And that's me being kind to Benteke only saying 3.

HRP
08-12-2017, 12:58 PM
I hate to say it but as limited at Campbell is. I actually reckon he would have stuck away at least 3 of the guilt edge chances Benteke has missed this season. And that's me being kind to Benteke only saying 3.

Has he scored 3 goals in the championship this season?

Mr Palace
08-12-2017, 01:03 PM
I can't believe anyone would pine after Campbell. He was very poor but because he ran around a lot we're meant to be grateful. I'd run around for £40k per week.

Harry Holmesdale
08-12-2017, 01:40 PM
Has he scored 3 goals in the championship this season?

5 and 3 assists apparently

Latvian Eagle
08-12-2017, 03:50 PM
Has he scored 3 goals in the championship this season?

Even a cart horse like Campbell is capable of burying some of the point blank chances Benteke has missed this season.