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glaziers fan
28-10-2017, 06:27 PM
-------------------------------Speroni--------------------------------------
TFM------------Tomkins---------------------Sakho-------------Schlupp
McArthur-------Cabaye-----------------Milivojevic--------------RLC
----------------Townsend------------------Zaha-----------------------

SJ'sLoveMonkey
28-10-2017, 06:28 PM
------------------------Speroni--------------------------------
TFM-----------Dann---------------Sakho---------Schlupp
Townsend----Cabaye-----------Milivojevic--------RLC
----------------Sako--------------Zaha---------------------

Big pitch, lots of pace, lets take the game to them.

Not going to happen

SJ'sLoveMonkey
28-10-2017, 06:28 PM
I would play Tomkins instead of Dann, but that side looks pretty spot on

Golf Boy
28-10-2017, 06:29 PM
------------------------Speroni--------------------------------
TFM-----------Dann---------------Sakho---------Schlupp
Townsend----Cabaye-----------Milivojevic--------RLC
----------------Sako--------------Zaha---------------------

Big pitch, lots of pace, lets take the game to them.

we can't play two up front against them

Jim Cannon
28-10-2017, 06:34 PM
Not having Sako, will just lumber about and do **** all

Golf Boy
28-10-2017, 06:36 PM
We'll beat them. Don't ask me why i think this though.

gilesy14
28-10-2017, 06:41 PM
Tomkins > Dann. All day.

Thefunkymonk
28-10-2017, 06:50 PM
I think it will be this with RLC just off wilf

Speroni

TFM Tomkins sakho pva

Townsend luka cabaye schlupp

Wilf RLC

Desperately need Benteke back!

beef
28-10-2017, 06:58 PM
------------------------Speroni--------------------------------
TFM---------Tomkins------------Sakho--------------Schlupp
--------------------------Luka---------------------------------
--------------RLC-----------------------Riedewald------------
-------------------------Cabaye-------------------------------
-----Townsend------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------Zaha---------------

Sub Punch on if we win a penalty

Thefunkymonk
28-10-2017, 06:59 PM
------------------------Speroni--------------------------------
Ward---------Tomkins------------Sakho-----------------TFM
--------------------------Luka---------------------------------
--------------RLC-----------------------Schlupp--------------
-------------------------Cabaye-------------------------------
-----Townsend------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------Zaha---------------

Sub Punch on if we win a penalty

Ward is shit mate, get TFM right back

beef
28-10-2017, 07:02 PM
Ward is shit mate, get TFM right back

I struggled with that one - I like Schlupp in midfield but can't stomach PvA in the side any longer. We can only work with the players we have...

beef
28-10-2017, 07:03 PM
I guess Ward could go left back again.

gilesy14
28-10-2017, 07:08 PM
I guess Ward could go left back again.

Schlupp back to left back & Jairo in for Jeffrey...?

beef
28-10-2017, 07:12 PM
Decent shout actually - updated the team

exiledeagle
28-10-2017, 07:15 PM
Not having Sako, will just lumber about and do **** all

Thought he made a difference today . He is not ideal but lets us utilise Zaha and Townsend to better effect .

beef
28-10-2017, 07:16 PM
Sako is either lacking sharpness or is just not technically that good. I think he's a good sub though - has pace, strong shot and is unpredictable.

Malarkey
28-10-2017, 07:19 PM
------------------------Speroni--------------------------------
TFM-----------Dann---------------Sakho---------Schlupp
Townsend----Cabaye-----------Milivojevic--------RLC
----------------Sako--------------Zaha---------------------

Big pitch, lots of pace, lets take the game to them.

Isn't it the same dimensions as Watford's pitch?

Thought I read that somewhere.

glaziers fan
28-10-2017, 07:25 PM
------------------------Speroni--------------------------------
TFM---------Tomkins------------Sakho--------------Schlupp
--------------------------Luka---------------------------------
--------------RLC-----------------------Riedewald------------
-------------------------Cabaye-------------------------------
-----Townsend------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------Zaha---------------

Sub Punch on if we win a penalty

What about Delaney? Surely an automatic for this fixture.

glaziers fan
28-10-2017, 07:25 PM
Isn't it the same dimensions as Watford's pitch?

Thought I read that somewhere.

Don't think so!

glaziers fan
28-10-2017, 07:27 PM
we can't play two up front against them

Can adjust the formation, but that's the XI with Sako making way for Benteke when fit.

beef
28-10-2017, 07:38 PM
What about Delaney? Surely an automatic for this fixture.

Can't see him ousting Sakho tbh

palacelad197o
28-10-2017, 07:44 PM
Tricky one this do we rest key players or go for the draw ?

beef
28-10-2017, 07:48 PM
Tricky one this do we rest key players or go for the draw ?

I don't think we can afford to put out a weak team in any game now. Nobody expects us to do anything at Spurs but I'm sure we can cause them problems.

RisZero
28-10-2017, 07:52 PM
I just want TFM to start to be honest

brisbane_eagle
28-10-2017, 08:16 PM
I just want TFM to start to be honest


He wonít be able to do anything on his own. Probably best if he has ten other players with him?

MFBias
28-10-2017, 08:21 PM
------------------------Speroni--------------------------------
TFM-----------Dann---------------Sakho---------Schlupp
Townsend----Cabaye-----------Milivojevic--------RLC
----------------Sako--------------Zaha---------------------

Big pitch, lots of pace, lets take the game to them.

Sako is an bull in a china shop on the ball. He has all that muscle but yet no strength. He went up for a free header and missed it by a yard today, he only got us some corners today because he tricked himself which in turn tricked the West Ham defenders so no-one knew where the ball was going, he ran about alot and got in the way. He even started to take a corner and then decided to not after Cabaye let him have it, he didnt bother to tell anyone that he changed his mind losing us seconds. Anyone else noticed the throw ons where he hid and didnt want the ball?

I would honestly rather start Dann upfront and have Tomkins at the back, than play him, not that will happen. If we signed him from non-league I wouldnt have a problem, I would probably like him due to him being amusingly shit but he is supposedly on £60k a week.

mrgins
28-10-2017, 08:22 PM
What's Spurs formation?

sl6 Eagle
28-10-2017, 11:14 PM
Spreoni

TFM
Tomkins
Sakho
Schlupp

Luka
Cabaye
RLC

Townsend
Sako
Zaha

Subs
Hennessy
PVA
Dann
Ridewald
MacArthur
Puncheon
Ladapo

bhcp
28-10-2017, 11:21 PM
------------------------Speroni--------------------------------
TFM-----------Dann---------------Sakho---------Schlupp
Townsend----Cabaye-----------Milivojevic--------RLC
----------------Sako--------------Zaha---------------------

Big pitch, lots of pace, lets take the game to them.
All this big pitch rubbish, it's about a metre wider and the same length:D

smudgerseagles
29-10-2017, 10:16 AM
Tomkins was a beast for us on corners yesterday and was unlucky not to score.

He gives us a scoring option and we need as many of those as we can at the moment

PVA is total pants IMO and shouldn't be anywhere near the first team

Kai
29-10-2017, 10:19 AM
Our only chance lies in catching them on the break and keeping cool and dedicated in defence. Pick the side accordingly. 5-4-1 or 4-5-1 is the only option

bodger
29-10-2017, 10:33 AM
JS
FM Tomkins Sakho Schlupp
Luka Cabaye
Wilf RLC Mcrthur AT

bigend1
29-10-2017, 10:39 AM
------------------------Speroni--------------------------------
TFM-----------Dann---------------Sakho---------Schlupp
RLC----------Cabaye--------------Milivojevic-------Sako
---------------Townsend------------Zaha---------------


I'd keep much the same formation as we've played the last three games. We've dominated them all, albeit without the 9 points that deserved. The players are well drilled at it and it was effective against Chelsea so keep that for Spurs.

The kind of fluid 442 with wilf and andros up front but drifting wide while Sako and Ruben go into the middle when they do.

lee_cpfc
29-10-2017, 10:46 AM
No brainer
Speroni
TFM Tomkins Dann Sakho Schlupp
Luka cabaye RLC
Zaha Townsend

orp pisshead1
29-10-2017, 11:14 AM
Schlupp back to left back & Jairo in for Jeffrey...?

Yep next to Luka and freeing up Cabaye:p

CharlieCPFC
29-10-2017, 11:24 AM
I think it's important we start to focus more on our central play, we've got some great technicians in this side in Cabaye and RLC and to get the best you need to get them on that ball in the middle. Keep Townsend and Zaha out wide because Tottenham will look to take the game to us allowing the gaps for them to exploit.

KungFuCharlie
29-10-2017, 11:45 AM
TFM for Ward.
Schlupp for PvA.
MacArthur or Punch for Schlupp.
Sakho for Dann (though not sure what RH will do about back 4).

Ironically, with Tomkins, Dann, Sakho, TFM and Schlupp, we have ideal personnel for........ three at the back.

glaziers fan
29-10-2017, 11:57 AM
Tomkins > Dann. All day.

I now agree :)

gilesy14
29-10-2017, 12:10 PM
Just rewatching the goals from yesterday. Ward for the first & Dann for the second are pitiful. The sooner we have a back 4 of TFM - Tomkins - Sakho - Schlupp, the better. Make it happen Roy, please!

Reg_Maudling
29-10-2017, 02:56 PM
Speroni
Tfm sakho Tomkins schlupp
Macarthur cabaye milijojevic
Zaha rlc townsend

Reg_Maudling
29-10-2017, 02:57 PM
Sako for rlc last 20 mins

MFBias
29-10-2017, 04:31 PM
Sako for rlc last 20 mins

Only if it was tag-team wrestlemania. The man is in the wrong sport.

aj4england
29-10-2017, 05:14 PM
No brainer
Speroni
TFM Tomkins Dann Sakho Schlupp
Luka cabaye RLC
Zaha Townsend

Gives us good chance of a goal from a corner, maybe macca for RLC

The Vicar
29-10-2017, 05:34 PM
Speroni
Tfm sakho Tomkins schlupp
Macarthur cabaye milijojevic
Zaha rlc townsend

These are the players I would have in my first XI. Not sure about the midfield formation...

Mr Bo Jangles
29-10-2017, 06:54 PM
Speroni
Tfm sakho Tomkins schlupp
Macarthur cabaye milijojevic
Zaha rlc townsend
Yep, spot on, as long as JM is fit.

cpfcfan1
29-10-2017, 08:09 PM
Sakho back for this one?

H.Bomb
30-10-2017, 06:35 AM
Speroni...
Ward... Dann... Sakho... TFM
Townsend... Cabaye... Luka... RLC
Sako... Zaha

1-0 win (Zaha 79)

nicobos
30-10-2017, 06:42 AM
Sakho back for this one?

A good chance according to the post match presser. Didnít train all week because of a strain at Newcastle but hoping heíll be ready for spuds.

MacA has an ankle injury so harder to predict.

Benteke could be back after the international break.

nicobos
30-10-2017, 06:43 AM
Ps are we on Tv this Sunday ?

glaziers fan
30-10-2017, 08:39 AM
Sakho back for this one?

Would hope so. Also if Jimmy Mac is back I'd play him.

kark
30-10-2017, 08:46 AM
Drop Ward (permanently, Gods willing) and play TFM, Schlupp to left back

Dann replaced by Sakho if fit

Either Sako or RLC up front

rambo1
30-10-2017, 09:02 AM
Ps are we on Tv this Sunday ?

Yes.
Mid-Day on BT Sport.


---------------------Speroni---------------
Fosu-Mensah---Dann(C)---Sakho---Schlupp

---------------Luca-------Cabaye----------

------Townsend----Loftus-Cheek------Zaha

----------------------Sako----------------


Subs-
Hennessey,Ward,VanAanholt,Tomkins,Reidewald,Punche on,KaiKai.

rambo1
30-10-2017, 09:13 AM
I don't think we can afford to put out a weak team in any game now. Nobody expects us to do anything at Spurs but I'm sure we can cause them problems.



Nobody Expected us to Beat Chelsea.
Football is a Sport &,in Sport,Anything can Happen.

stevek
30-10-2017, 10:50 AM
Jules
TFM Tomkins Sakho Schlupp
McArthur Cabaye Luka RLC
Townsend Zaha

TheCharmer1
30-10-2017, 10:54 AM
------------------------Speroni--------------------------------
TFM---------Tomkins---------------Sakho---------Schlupp
Townsend----Cabaye-----------Milivojevic--------RLC
----------------Sako--------------Zaha---------------------



The personnel is right, the formation wrong. As we finished on Saturday, 433. Wilf left, Sako centre, Andros right.

roxy
30-10-2017, 03:09 PM
Yes.
Mid-Day on BT Sport.


---------------------Speroni---------------
Fosu-Mensah---Dann(C)---Sakho---Schlupp

---------------Luca-------Cabaye----------

------Townsend----Loftus-Cheek------Zaha

----------------------Sako----------------


Subs-
Hennessey,Ward,VanAanholt,Tomkins,Reidewald,Punche on,KaiKai.

This except PVA will not be on the bench due to injury...MK or DD

CP-RJW
30-10-2017, 04:31 PM
Will Kane be fit?

Shipp Ahoy!
30-10-2017, 04:39 PM
Will Kane be fit?

"Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino is confident Harry Kane will return from a hamstring injury for Wednesday's Champions League clash with holders Real Madrid at Wembley."

First result on google I found.

So either you would very much expect so or hopefully they won't risk him against us either because he didn't make Real and isn't ready for us or because they play him but think it's too much a risk to play twice in a few days!

GB2506
30-10-2017, 04:53 PM
Yes.
Mid-Day on BT Sport.


---------------------Speroni---------------
Fosu-Mensah---Dann(C)---Sakho---Schlupp

---------------Luca-------Cabaye----------

------Townsend----Loftus-Cheek------Zaha

----------------------Sako----------------


Subs-
Hennessey,Ward,VanAanholt,Tomkins,Reidewald,Punche on,KaiKai.


This! Big Wembley pitch, hit them on the counter.

mb23
30-10-2017, 05:18 PM
Speroni
Fosu-Mensah - Tomkins - Sakho. -Schlupp
Luka
McArthur - Cabaye
Loftus-Cheek
Townsend - Zaha

Subs: Hennessey, Dann, Ward, Riedewald, Puncheon, Lee, Sako,

Loftus-Cheek as a false 9nwith Townsend and Zaha on the wings. Midfield three of Luka, YC and JM can allow Wilf, Townsend and RLC to focus on attacking on the break.

Will be a toughie...

Bryan
30-10-2017, 08:50 PM
Yes.
Mid-Day on BT Sport.


---------------------Speroni---------------
Fosu-Mensah---Dann(C)---Sakho---Schlupp

---------------Luca-------Cabaye----------

------Townsend----Loftus-Cheek------Zaha

----------------------Sako----------------


Subs-
Hennessey,Ward,VanAanholt,Tomkins,Reidewald,Punche on,KaiKai.

This for me although perhaps Reidewald as left back?

Schlupps not a convincing left back and a good leg freshening option from the bench in midfield. I guess everyone looks a bit better playing alongside Sako though.

Would also be happy if itís Jimmy Mac instead of RLC

Shipp Ahoy!
31-10-2017, 09:18 AM
Think we will go with:

Speroni

Ward/TFM - Dann - Tomkins/Sakho - Ward/TFM

RLC/McArthur - Cabaye - Luka - Schlupp

Townsend - Wilf


Personally I would go with:

Speroni

TFM - Tomkins - Sakho (if fit) - Reideweld

Townsend - Cabaye - Luka - Schlupp

Sako - Wilf


Think we suffered when under pressure with TFM at left back, once West Ham dropped off he looked much more comfortable as he wasn't under so much pressure on his wrong side. Schlupp has been exposed too often for my liking when playing LB so only natural alternative is Reideweld (SP). Sako provided us with a target which Wilf benefited from greatly against West Ham and can hold it up well, which I think we will need against Spurs.

Eagle96
31-10-2017, 09:31 AM
Schlupp at LB concerns me - was it just me who saw him get roasted about 8 times in the last 10 minutes by Antonio? Leaving acres of space on that flank for the entire time he switched to LB? PVA is worse and Souare is unfit, but after spending nearly £30M last January on left-backs I can't believe we still don't have a competent one. Poor, and frankly quite embarrassing.

Anyway, that said, their may be a case for playing Schlupp at LB vs Spurs, simply because they don't play with traditional wingers. They play 3 at the back with Aurier or Trippier at right-wing back, which may be easier to defend against than an out-and-out winger. Even when they play 4231 they play Son or Sissoko on the right, who naturally drift inside and wouldn't pose a direct threat to Schlupp.

I'd 100% drop Ward and start TFM, and pair Tomkins and Sakho at CB, the partnership that served us so well under SA, I think they have a better understanding than Dann and Sakho.

jmemour
31-10-2017, 10:45 AM
Speroni

TFM ---------- Tomkins ----------- Sakho ---------- Riedewald

McArthur --------- Cabaye --------- Luka ---------- Schlupp

Townsend ---------- Zaha

Subs: Hennessey, Dann, Souare, Ward, Sako, RLC, Puncheon


Got to start with this IMO and be difficult to break down. Spurs aren't all that at home and can be frustrated. If it doesn't work we've got Sako to come on up front and RLC to play #10 with Schlupp and McArthur coming off/Zaha and Townsend moving wider.

teesdale99
31-10-2017, 10:55 AM
Option 2 for me.


QUOTE=glaziers fan;13917328]------------------------Speroni--------------------------------
TFM---------Tomkins---------------Sakho---------Schlupp
Townsend----Cabaye-----------Milivojevic--------RLC
----------------Sako--------------Zaha---------------------

OR

-------------------------Speroni------------------------------------
TFM---------Tomkins-----------------Sakho-------------Schlupp
--------------------------Luka---------------------------------------
--------------Cabaye-------------------RLC-------------------------
Townsend---------------Sako-----------------------Zaha

OR

-------------------------------Speroni--------------------------------------
TFM------------Tomkins---------------------Sakho-------------Schlupp
McArthur-------Cabaye-----------------Milivojevic--------------RLC
----------------Townsend------------------Zaha-----------------------[/QUOTE]

Mr Palace
31-10-2017, 11:14 AM
This is an easy team selection IMO - bar whether you play Tomkins or Dann. The second half against West Ham showed that we are much better with a 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1 formation. I know Sako isn't the greatest of strikers but we need a presence up front and he is our best option until Benteke returns. This then allows Wilf and Townsend to play in their best positions - on the wing - as well as RLC, who is much better in the centre with limited defensive duties.

I just hope Hodgson doesn't revert to type and go too negative/defensive.

----------------------------Speroni----------------------------

TFM----------Dann----------------Sakho------------Schlupp

--------------------Luka------------Cabaye-----------------

Townsend----------------RLC----------------Wilf-----------

---------------------------Sako-------------------------------

Subs:
Hennessey
Ward
Tomkins
Riedewald
McArthur
Puncheon
KaiKai

Frisky
31-10-2017, 12:34 PM
Speroni
Fosu-Mensah - Tomkins - Sakho. -Schlupp
Luka
McArthur - Cabaye
Loftus-Cheek
Townsend - Zaha

Subs: Hennessey, Dann, Ward, Riedewald, Puncheon, Lee, Sako,

Loftus-Cheek as a false 9nwith Townsend and Zaha on the wings. Midfield three of Luka, YC and JM can allow Wilf, Townsend and RLC to focus on attacking on the break.

Will be a toughie...

This for me. Close between Dann and Tomkins but the Sakho/Tomkins pairing worked v well last season. A narrow midfield 4 with the full backs and front two providing the width. If we get this side to click it will be hard for Benteke to get back in.

Looking forward to it.

Nigelbrag
31-10-2017, 12:35 PM
For me it would be harsh to make changes to a team that is slowly starting to get its belief back again as we saw in spells against West Ham where we played some good possession football at times.
However, this is now Spurs at home and determined to get back on track after Two defeats on the bounce, what will be crucial is the fitness of Kane as without his predatory finishing gives us hope, but anything from this game will be a huge bonus and a real boost to our morale.
They are so very good at coming forward out of defence and drawing defences out that we must combat that and try to smother their influential midfield, hence why i would tweek our system and lineup slightly especially if Sakho is fit and go with a 5-2-1-2 or 5-3-2 system and hit them on the quick counter with WZ and AT, this is how i would start.

------------------------------------Speroni--------------------------------------------------

------Ward------------Tomkins-----------Dann----------Sakho----------Schlupp------------

------------------Luka----------------------------Cabaye------------------------------

-----------------------------Loftus-Cheek--------------------------------------------------

---------------Zaha------------------------------Townsend-----------------------------------

Skintagain
31-10-2017, 03:43 PM
Hennessy for me, he might just be a statue of a gk standing in the middle of the goal but Speroni had 2 shots to deal with Saturday missed both and N'castle a taller man would have easily got a hand to it.
Ward at RB he's the better defender and we have to get to ht without conceding, Spuds won't help us like Wet Spam did.
Tomkins or Dann, Dann has the greater goal threat but I think for Spuds a bit of speed in defence will be more useful.
Swap Schlupp and PVA around to improve the defence.


----------------------------Hennessey----------------------------

Ward----------Tomkins----------------Sakho------------Schlupp

--------RLC------------Luka--------Cabaye--------PVA

---------------Townsend------------Wilf--------------------

Mr Palace
31-10-2017, 03:56 PM
Hennessy for me, he might just be a statue of a gk standing in the middle of the goal but Speroni had 2 shots to deal with Saturday missed both and N'castle a taller man would have easily got a hand to it.
Ward at RB he's the better defender and we have to get to ht without conceding, Spuds won't help us like Wet Spam did.
Tomkins or Dann, Dann has the greater goal threat but I think for Spuds a bit of speed in defence will be more useful.
Swap Schlupp and PVA around to improve the defence.


----------------------------Hennessey----------------------------

Ward----------Tomkins----------------Sakho------------Schlupp

--------RLC------------Luka--------Cabaye--------PVA

---------------Townsend------------Wilf--------------------

Speroni had no chance with those two goals. Unbelievable.

ebyeeckeagle
31-10-2017, 04:02 PM
Don't think so!

Can we get away from this old bollocks about the size of the Wembley pitch.

http://www.football-stadiums.co.uk/articles/are-all-football-pitches-the-same-size/

Skintagain
31-10-2017, 04:04 PM
Speroni had no chance with those two goals. Unbelievable.

I know, it seems all the goals he concedes he has no chance with.

ebyeeckeagle
31-10-2017, 04:15 PM
I know, it seems all the goals he concedes he has no chance with.

The odd mishap apart, that's generally the case with decent goalies.

Sharkba1t
31-10-2017, 04:40 PM
Hennessy for me, he might just be a statue of a gk standing in the middle of the goal but Speroni had 2 shots to deal with Saturday missed both and N'castle a taller man would have easily got a hand to it.
Ward at RB he's the better defender and we have to get to ht without conceding, Spuds won't help us like Wet Spam did.
Tomkins or Dann, Dann has the greater goal threat but I think for Spuds a bit of speed in defence will be more useful.
Swap Schlupp and PVA around to improve the defence.


----------------------------Hennessey----------------------------

Ward----------Tomkins----------------Sakho------------Schlupp

--------RLC------------Luka--------Cabaye--------PVA

---------------Townsend------------Wilf--------------------



This is the thing about Speroni, he was always pretty poor at stopping most high shots and now he cant seem to stop any. That said, I prefer him to Hennessey. Jules is more confident and is very good at stopping the low shots.
Wayne has zero confidence and cant seem to stop any shots.
Its a sh1t situation.

desperado
31-10-2017, 04:57 PM
Speroni hasn't made a significant save in any of the three games he has played

Every half decent shot or header on target results in a goal against us

Whoever is playing in goal we need to have the mind set Pulis installed, limit the opposition to as few shots on target as possible

Signing a competent Premier League goalkeeper in January has to be the number one transfer priority

Mr Palace
31-10-2017, 05:01 PM
I know, it seems all the goals he concedes he has no chance with.

Not at all. Just be fair - there is no way he could have saved those on Saturday.

Hennessey has been failing for the past two seasons yet some want him to start games. Baffling. Either way, we need a new No 1 in January.

Mr Palace
31-10-2017, 05:03 PM
Speroni hasn't made a significant save in any of the three games he has played

Every half decent shot or header on target results in a goal against us

Whoever is playing in goal we need to have the mind set Pulis installed, limit the opposition to as few shots on target as possible

Signing a competent Premier League goalkeeper in January has to be the number one transfer priority

Not true - he made a couple of very good saves against Chelsea (e.g. from Alonso's header). His positioning is so superior to Hennessey's that he also makes more saves that look routine because of his better positioning. He anticipates more effectively as well. He's just a better keeper, even at 38, which says a lot about Hennessey's failings.

Nigelbrag
31-10-2017, 05:11 PM
Unbelievable to think that Speroni is being blamed for the goals especially for that thunderbolt 2nd goal that flew into the top corner, i am struggling to think of a keeper that might have saved it (maybe de Gear). With the First there might be a case, but again it was so unexpected and taken with the outside of his boot which may have wrong footed and deceived JS.

Mr Palace
31-10-2017, 05:14 PM
Unbelievable to think that Speroni is being blamed for the goals especially for that thunderbolt 2nd goal that flew into the top corner, i am struggling to think of a keeper that might have saved it (maybe de Gear). With the First there might be a case, but again it was so unexpected and taken with the outside of his boot which may have wrong footed and deceived JS.

Exactly. It's bizarre.

bubbs11
31-10-2017, 05:59 PM
Got to be to our advantage that Spurs face Real Madrid 3 days before us.

Mind you i thought that about Man U playing in Moscow 3 days before we met and look what happened. Still, I think we couldn't ask for a better lead up to Saturday. Hopefully the game will be a block buster, end to end affair with Spurs nicking it....nicely physically and mentally spent for The Palace.

art malice
31-10-2017, 06:01 PM
Got to be to our advantage that Spurs face Real Madrid 3 days before us.

Mind you i thought that about Man U playing in Moscow 3 days before we met and look what happened. Still, I think we couldn't ask for a better lead up to Saturday. Hopefully the game will be a block buster, end to end affair with Spurs nicking it....nicely physically and mentally spent for The Palace.

We're playing Sunday

bubbs11
31-10-2017, 06:11 PM
We're playing Sunday

Damn :(.

Oh well, scratch that...we're fecked then.

orp pisshead1
31-10-2017, 07:15 PM
Tricky one this do we rest key players or go for the draw ?

Rest? Itís the international break after!.

elgin eagle
31-10-2017, 07:45 PM
Think we will go with:

Speroni

Ward/TFM - Dann - Tomkins/Sakho - Ward/TFM

RLC/McArthur - Cabaye - Luka - Schlupp

Townsend - Wilf


Personally I would go with:

Speroni

TFM - Tomkins - Sakho (if fit) - Reideweld

Townsend - Cabaye - Luka - Schlupp

Sako - Wilf


Think we suffered when under pressure with TFM at left back, once West Ham dropped off he looked much more comfortable as he wasn't under so much pressure on his wrong side. Schlupp has been exposed too often for my liking when playing LB so only natural alternative is Reideweld (SP). Sako provided us with a target which Wilf benefited from greatly against West Ham and can hold it up well, which I think we will need against Spurs.

That looks pretty bloody good.

jmemour
01-11-2017, 09:19 AM
For me it would be harsh to make changes to a team that is slowly starting to get its belief back again as we saw in spells against West Ham where we played some good possession football at times.
However, this is now Spurs at home and determined to get back on track after Two defeats on the bounce, what will be crucial is the fitness of Kane as without his predatory finishing gives us hope, but anything from this game will be a huge bonus and a real boost to our morale.
They are so very good at coming forward out of defence and drawing defences out that we must combat that and try to smother their influential midfield, hence why i would tweek our system and lineup slightly especially if Sakho is fit and go with a 5-2-1-2 or 5-3-2 system and hit them on the quick counter with WZ and AT, this is how i would start.

------------------------------------Speroni--------------------------------------------------

------Ward------------Tomkins-----------Dann----------Sakho----------Schlupp------------

------------------Luka----------------------------Cabaye------------------------------

-----------------------------Loftus-Cheek--------------------------------------------------

---------------Zaha------------------------------Townsend-----------------------------------


Let it go Frank.

Curry
01-11-2017, 09:56 AM
Erm.. 12 players?

Curry
01-11-2017, 09:57 AM
Sorry, ignore

Stavros 69
01-11-2017, 11:05 AM
-------------------------Speroni

TFM ---------- Tomkins ----------- Sakho ------ Schlupp

-----McArthur -------- Luka ---------- Cabaye-----

------Townsend ------ Zaha-------Sako--------


Unless RLC decides he's a man and wants to show up.

bigend1
01-11-2017, 11:20 AM
Damn :(.

Oh well, scratch that...we're fecked then.

It's ok you were almost right

Block busting win against real Madrid. Despite the injuries to kane, ali and errikson whom all played on through the pain they overcame real Madrid in the last minute.

Physically drained it was Friday night before they had the energy to celebrate and with Saturday off one drink became three.... three became five and so on.. next thing as they were doing shots to still being hungover sunday there was no going back.

Half the team injured, everyone hungover we nick a point from them

DARZET EAGLE
01-11-2017, 12:05 PM
It's ok you were almost right

Block busting win against real Madrid. Despite the injuries to kane, ali and errikson whom all played on through the pain they overcame real Madrid in the last minute.

Physically drained it was Friday night before they had the energy to celebrate and with Saturday off one drink became three.... three became five and so on.. next thing as they were doing shots to still being hungover sunday there was no going back.

Half the team injured, everyone hungover we nick a point from them

You wish.:supergrin:

st albans
01-11-2017, 08:10 PM
Alderweireld done his hammy tonight. One down....

SJ'sLoveMonkey
01-11-2017, 08:12 PM
One up

AJ
01-11-2017, 08:15 PM
Alderweireld done his hammy tonight. One down....
Alli, Erickson, Kane, Sanchez, Trippier, Dier, Son, Llorente, Lloris and Dembele to go for us to have a chance :)

Stockport_Eagle
01-11-2017, 08:23 PM
Alli, Erickson, Kane, Sanchez, Trippier, Dier, Son, Llorente, Lloris and Dembele to go for us to have a chance :)
Son, Kane & Alli would do for me.

If they win tonight, I reckon it could be a bit 'after the lord mayors show' on Sunday...or maybe not but here's hoping :p

EDIT: Ben Davies gone now...

st albans
01-11-2017, 08:29 PM
Kane doesn’t look fit

Glazier69
01-11-2017, 08:30 PM
Davies crocked. Rose coming on?

Zulu84
01-11-2017, 09:07 PM
Spurs look good but there is definitely space for wilf and Townsend to use. However if ward and Dann start I fear they will be exposed for lack of pace.

newish eagle
01-11-2017, 09:12 PM
Blimey 3-0!

If we get a result on Sunday, that’s us better than Real Madrid! Job done!

Zulu84
01-11-2017, 09:24 PM
Blimey 3-0!

If we get a result on Sunday, thatís us better than Real Madrid! Job done!

Well we beat Chelsea, who beat spurs so... We are clearly already better than Real.

newish eagle
01-11-2017, 09:27 PM
Well we beat Chelsea, who beat spurs so... We are clearly already better than Real.
Absolutely mate! Top 6 here we come! :)

Zulu84
01-11-2017, 09:29 PM
Absolutely mate! Top 6 here we come! :)

:D

Optimistic Kev
01-11-2017, 10:00 PM
Lloris limping at the end apparently.

Any chance Kane starts on Sunday then goes goes off with a Ďtacticalí hammy so he misses the International break?

Be our luck.

TWELLSEagle
01-11-2017, 10:20 PM
I think we will beat spurs. They, like us have trouble breaking teams down that sit back. Roy will know this and we will let them have the ball. We will then exploit the gaps in behind their wing backs.

ebyeeckeagle
02-11-2017, 09:09 AM
Real Madrid ain't all that. Nothing to worry about.

sydnsteve
02-11-2017, 11:16 AM
I think we will beat spurs. They, like us have trouble breaking teams down that sit back. Roy will know this and we will let them have the ball. We will then exploit the gaps in behind their wing backs.

Wow. I'll have some of your drug of choice please.

sydnsteve
02-11-2017, 11:20 AM
GF, suicide to attack them they would tear us to pieces, we have to sit back, compress play and be patient. Wilf up front alone, and Sako on the bench ( he is only good enough as a sub, terrible first touch but bulldozes past players with the ball half under control).

glaziers fan
02-11-2017, 11:54 AM
GF, suicide to attack them they would tear us to pieces, we have to sit back, compress play and be patient. Wilf up front alone, and Sako on the bench ( he is only good enough as a sub, terrible first touch but bulldozes past players with the ball half under control).

Agreed.

hihi
02-11-2017, 11:57 AM
need to stop Trippier crosses

Martin H
02-11-2017, 12:23 PM
Never sure if we are trying to guess what Roy will do or offer what we would do.

I would guess RH will go for:

Speroni
Fosu-Mensah - Dann - Sakho - Schlupp
Macca - Luka - Cabaye - Loftus-Cheek
Townsend - Zaha

I say this because I think Roy values consistency. He may ask them to adapt what they have done but within that same framework. I will be nervous if we do start that way because I think it encourages their CBs to step into midfield and that releases their midfielders to make their runs forward which could be a nightmare for us.

So, I would instead go 4-5-1 for this specific match

Speroni
Fosu-Mensah - Tomkins - Sakho - Schlupp
Luka - Cabaye
Townsend ----- Loftus Cheek ----- Zaha
Sako

The hopeful idea being that Sako will annoy their CBs enough with or without the ball to suppress them and the 2 wingers will make them wary of coming too far forward. RL-C has the ability to make those surging runs in the middle. Don't get me wrong, it's not a huge attacking threat but if Sako can catch one or two shots with full power and Wilf does his stuff we will at least have chances.

Andros and Wilf will both be back to winger defensive duties. No free roles.

If Dembele plays, he will be a handful and L-C will need to try to both contain him and get away from him when he has the ball.

st albans
02-11-2017, 12:32 PM
need to stop Trippier crosses

wouldn't be surprised if Aurier comes back in. Seems to like rotating the wing backs. Would also expect Danny Rose to come in. All much of a muchness, they are blessed in those positions

glaziers fan
02-11-2017, 12:43 PM
need to stop Trippier crosses

Might not play: Aurier and Rose is my prediction.

glaziers fan
02-11-2017, 12:43 PM
wouldn't be surprised if Aurier comes back in. Seems to like rotating the wing backs. Would also expect Danny Rose to come in. All much of a muchness, they are blessed in those positions

Beat me to it.

AJ
02-11-2017, 01:42 PM
Might not play: Aurier and Rose is my prediction.
Is that good or bad?

penguin7
02-11-2017, 03:04 PM
Never sure if we are trying to guess what Roy will do or offer what we would do.

I would guess RH will go for:

Speroni
Fosu-Mensah - Dann - Sakho - Schlupp
Macca - Luka - Cabaye - Loftus-Cheek
Townsend - Zaha

I say this because I think Roy values consistency. He may ask them to adapt what they have done but within that same framework. I will be nervous if we do start that way because I think it encourages their CBs to step into midfield and that releases their midfielders to make their runs forward which could be a nightmare for us.

So, I would instead go 4-5-1 for this specific match

Speroni
Fosu-Mensah - Tomkins - Sakho - Schlupp
Luka - Cabaye
Townsend ----- Loftus Cheek ----- Zaha
Sako

The hopeful idea being that Sako will annoy their CBs enough with or without the ball to suppress them and the 2 wingers will make them wary of coming too far forward. RL-C has the ability to make those surging runs in the middle. Don't get me wrong, it's not a huge attacking threat but if Sako can catch one or two shots with full power and Wilf does his stuff we will at least have chances.

Andros and Wilf will both be back to winger defensive duties. No free roles.

If Dembele plays, he will be a handful and L-C will need to try to both contain him and get away from him when he has the ball.

Fairly good assessment of Roys likely team.

Happy that he is the manager not you !

16eagles
02-11-2017, 03:22 PM
GF, suicide to attack them they would tear us to pieces, we have to sit back, compress play and be patient. Wilf up front alone, and Sako on the bench ( he is only good enough as a sub, terrible first touch but bulldozes past players with the ball half under control).

Exactly Burnley did this.. even Man Utd last week. Think Townsend should drop back wide and we play 4411 Loftus check behind wilf that Wembley pitch is massive. think the top 2 will get isolated the way we play otherwise.

Martin H
02-11-2017, 03:56 PM
Fairly good assessment of Roys likely team.

Happy that he is the manager not you !

LOL - oh come on I was only one player different :D

glaziers fan
02-11-2017, 04:33 PM
Is that good or bad?

Aurier: good news for us.
Rose: bad news for us.

I reckon Son will play up top with Kane as well. So TFM essential.

glaziers fan
02-11-2017, 04:36 PM
Never sure if we are trying to guess what Roy will do or offer what we would do.

I would guess RH will go for:

Speroni
Fosu-Mensah - Dann - Sakho - Schlupp
Macca - Luka - Cabaye - Loftus-Cheek
Townsend - Zaha

I say this because I think Roy values consistency. He may ask them to adapt what they have done but within that same framework. I will be nervous if we do start that way because I think it encourages their CBs to step into midfield and that releases their midfielders to make their runs forward which could be a nightmare for us.

So, I would instead go 4-5-1 for this specific match

Speroni
Fosu-Mensah - Tomkins - Sakho - Schlupp
Luka - Cabaye
Townsend ----- Loftus Cheek ----- Zaha
Sako

The hopeful idea being that Sako will annoy their CBs enough with or without the ball to suppress them and the 2 wingers will make them wary of coming too far forward. RL-C has the ability to make those surging runs in the middle. Don't get me wrong, it's not a huge attacking threat but if Sako can catch one or two shots with full power and Wilf does his stuff we will at least have chances.

Andros and Wilf will both be back to winger defensive duties. No free roles.

If Dembele plays, he will be a handful and L-C will need to try to both contain him and get away from him when he has the ball.

Only just seen this.

Interesting that you think their centre backs might push up into midfield if we play Andros and Zaha up front. But I would have thought that would be suicide. One ball over the top and Zaha will kill them. Other than that, I just hope you are right that TFM will start. I still have nightmares of Ward retaining his place. Agree it's likely that Dann will keep his place ahead of Tomkins.

Navigation
02-11-2017, 05:01 PM
Lloris out injured

Crunchie
02-11-2017, 05:04 PM
------------------Speroni
Fosu-Mensah - Tomkins - Sakho - Riedewald
--------------------Luka
--------Cabaye - Loftus-Cheek- Macca
---------------Townsend - Zaha

Penstone Eagle
02-11-2017, 05:06 PM
need to stop Trippier crosses

Do what other teams do and kick him. We're too polite.

glaziers fan
02-11-2017, 05:06 PM
Lloris out injured

Centre backs even less likely to push up then with no sweeper keeper behind them.

glaziers fan
02-11-2017, 05:07 PM
Do what other teams do and kick him. We're too polite.

Sadly that kind of aggression is one of the things Schlupp lacks.

Penstone Eagle
02-11-2017, 05:07 PM
Speroni
Fosu-Mensah - Dann - Sakho - Riedewald
Luka
Cabaye - Loftus-Cheek- Macca
Townsend - Zaha

Tomkins instead of Dann, too many errors.

Crunchie
02-11-2017, 05:09 PM
Tomkins instead of Dann, too many errors.

I agree, my mistake, meant to put him in. That is why no Schlupp for me too

Neillo's Son
02-11-2017, 05:20 PM
Spurs were terrific last night, and I have no love for Real Madrid either, but all of their goals were a bit fortunate. The first was clearly offside, the 2nd took a huge deflection and the 3rd was a counter attack based on the previous 2 goals.

Their tails will be up but I honestly don't think we should fear them, Lloris and Aldeweireld potentially being out also leads to a potential Chelsea type scenario.

Here's hoping!

Eagleinsussex
02-11-2017, 07:36 PM
Lloris out injured

Just need Ali, Kane & Ericsson to get injured in training and we might get a 0-0

TWELLSEagle
02-11-2017, 08:30 PM
Wow. I'll have some of your drug of choice please.

Sound mental I know. Just think this could suit us. Which is also why the “must win” games against poorer teams are nothing of the sort. We’ve always been good at punching above our weight.

aj4england
02-11-2017, 11:18 PM
Take it to em like they did to Real Madrid - no fear Roy

arabian eagle
03-11-2017, 06:43 PM
Take it to em like they did to Real Madrid - no fear Roy

If we sit deep Spurs will pick us apart. I agree it is good to push up on them. We need to have threat, Zaha and Townsend give us that.

penguin7
03-11-2017, 06:57 PM
It does not seem to be the popular view on here, but I think that letting Spurs camp in our half is suicide. Whether Kane starts or not, it would be hard for us to just survive for 90 minutes.

I do not believe that Roy will change the system much. Townsend and Wilf remain our most potent threats, and will do more in keeping their fullbacks back by remaining upfield than by expending energy constantly helping our defense.

A midfield shield of Luka, Cabaye and possibly Riedewald will have to work hard at stopping Alli and Eriksen from finding space in front of our back four, leaving RLC centrally in front of them providing the link to our attackers.

Sako starting up front is not an option, his ball control is so poor. But he should have a role coming on as a sub as Wilf and Andros tire.

Lombardo 888
03-11-2017, 06:58 PM
Do what other teams do and kick him. We're too polite.

Cant really complain about the treatment Wilf gets if this is what we are setting out to do.

Alfonso
03-11-2017, 11:27 PM
My match preview includes my predicted eleven and team news. Watch now: https://youtu.be/898T4l7vIPA

glaziers fan
04-11-2017, 11:14 AM
------------------------------Speroni-----------------------------------
--------------Tomkins--------Dann----------Sakho-------------------
TFM-----Cabaye----------Milivojevic------------RLC------------Schlupp
------------------Townsend-----------------Zaha----------------------

If McArthur doesn't make it.

Mr Palace
04-11-2017, 11:40 AM
Surely we've learned from the three at the back debacle? It doesn't suit us.

McpfcS
04-11-2017, 11:48 AM
Surely we've learned from the three at the back debacle? It doesn't suit us.


I'm sure Roy wouldn't risk it but I do think 5-3-2 suits the players we have better than 4-4-2 particularly in the absence of Benteke.

De Boer's team selections and insistence on possession football was so terrible I don't think we can possibly judge the merits of 5-3-2 during those games.

bigend1
04-11-2017, 12:16 PM
I'm sure Roy wouldn't risk it but I do think 5-3-2 suits the players we have better than 4-4-2 particularly in the absence of Benteke.

De Boer's team selections and insistence on possession football was so terrible I don't think we can possibly judge the merits of 5-3-2 during those games.

Since the international break and fron the Chelsea game roy has clearly been working hard with the squad on the 442 we've seen. We've looked good beating Chelsea and dominating in all games.

For the first time this season the players look settled and understand thier roles in the side and I don't think we should be changing that bow.

It's roys most used formation, he knows it, the players know it and are doing well in it.

The players are also happy being fluid in that formation with covering defensively and even more swapping around as we go forward.

Vary The side to get best players in but don't change a winning formula that's seen us on top against different styles of opposition

hihi
04-11-2017, 08:31 PM
Hope we can mount some pressure on Vorm - don't really rate him
I don't think RLC deserves a start with his attitude. If you look at the WH goals you can see him lightly jogging back on both occasions. Think he is better as an impact sub.

Mr Palace
04-11-2017, 09:31 PM
I'm sure Roy wouldn't risk it but I do think 5-3-2 suits the players we have better than 4-4-2 particularly in the absence of Benteke.

De Boer's team selections and insistence on possession football was so terrible I don't think we can possibly judge the merits of 5-3-2 during those games.

Why though? We don't have a decent attacking right back. We don't have ball playing centre backs who can move into midfield. We don't have two strikers. I don't get it. We're best suited to 4-3-3 / 4-5-1. It's all about wingers for us.

McpfcS
04-11-2017, 09:39 PM
Why though? We don't have a decent attacking right back. We don't have ball playing centre backs who can move into midfield. We don't have two strikers. I don't get it. We're best suited to 4-3-3 / 4-5-1. It's all about wingers for us.


I donít think it requires CBs to step into midfield and I think Sakho, Dann and Tomkins are sufficient with the ball in any case.

TFM would be a very decent ďattacking right backĒ.

It would allow Andros and Wilf to play with greater freedom going forward whilst providing greater protection than 4-3-3.

I think, against the top teams if the right personnel are available, we shouldnít discount playing 5-3-2 just because it didnít work under FdB.

FdB made some crazy team selections and insisted we played possession football. Get the right players in the right positions and I think itís a decent option for us.

Mr Palace
04-11-2017, 10:03 PM
I donít think it requires CBs to step into midfield and I think Sakho, Dann and Tomkins are sufficient with the ball in any case.

TFM would be a very decent ďattacking right backĒ.

It would allow Andros and Wilf to play with greater freedom going forward whilst providing greater protection than 4-3-3.

I think, against the top teams if the right personnel are available, we shouldnít discount playing 5-3-2 just because it didnít work under FdB.

FdB made some crazy team selections and insisted we played possession football. Get the right players in the right positions and I think itís a decent option for us.

I don't see why we need to go down that route given how other formations have served us much better. The other thing you need with three at the back is pacy central defenders who play either side of the player in the middle. We don't have that either. Anyway, I don't see Hodgson playing it anytime soon.

McpfcS
04-11-2017, 10:38 PM
I don't see why we need to go down that route given how other formations have served us much better. The other thing you need with three at the back is pacy central defenders who play either side of the player in the middle. We don't have that either. Anyway, I don't see Hodgson playing it anytime soon.


Nor do I and that's fine. I just don't think we should dismiss the idea because it didn't work under bonkers Frank.

Mr Palace
04-11-2017, 10:56 PM
Nor do I and that's fine. I just don't think we should dismiss the idea because it didn't work under bonkers Frank.

Fair enough.