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CJ PLUM
09-11-2017, 08:06 PM
Match Arrangements: Brighton & Hove Albion v Crystal Palace November 28th ko 19:45

Details will be updated when applicable

Supporters must bring the correct season ticket or membership card to verify their named tickets


Transport to Brighton

Brighton operate a system of free travel to the ground by train or Brighton and Hove buses within a zone south of Haywards Heath and between Worthing and Eastbourne. This will operate between 16:15 and midnight for supporters of both teams on production of a valid match ticket. Thus you will only need a train ticket to Haywards Heath if travelling to Falmer via Brighton or Lewes after 16:15. Fans may exit and then re-enter Brighton Station during these times. Journeys to Falmer take 10 minutes from both Brighton and Lewes Stations and trains run approximately every 10 minutes before the game. They are usually up to 10 carriages on match days which can now be fully accommodated on the extended Falmer platforms.
Bus routes 23,25,28,29 and 50 run from Churchill Square or The Levels area along the A270 Lewes Road to stops close to the ground and the nearby University Campus. Brighton and Hove buses from Tunbridge Wells, Uckfield, Ringmer and Lewes are also included in the free travel scheme.
Return coach travel at £17 is the easiest option and will depart from Selhurst Park at 15:00. Currently sold out but additional coaches may be added subject to demand at the box office. Pre-booked pick-ups will also be made at the Starbucks in Hooley just before the M23 however parking in this area is now very restricted. Brighton has a large coach park adjacent to the away section.


Parking

Supporters with valid match tickets may use one of the free Park and Ride sites. All sites are stewarded with controlled loading of buses which take about 15 mins to reach the ground but they can get caught in congestion near the ground on the A27.

Site 1 - Mill Road (Sat Nav: BN1 8ZF) is off the 3rd exit on the roundabout junction of the A23 and A27 on the approach to Brighton. This has 450 spaces but is usually full 1½ hours before kick-off.

Site 2 - Brighton University (Sat Nav: BN2 4AT) is off of the A23 one-way system on the A270 Lewes Road with 500 spaces is available from about 17:15 on evening games and at about 2½ miles is the nearest to the ground.

Site 3 - Brighton Racecourse (Sat Nav: BN2 9XZ) is the largest and quickest to clear with 700 spaces and has never yet been full for any game. Fans are advised to approach this site from the A23 one-way system in the centre of Brighton via Union Road and Elm Grove or via the A259 Marine Parade and Freshfield Road to avoid congestion on the A27 close to the ground and in the Woodingdean area. The roads between the Racecourse and ground are unsuitable for walking on evening games.

No street parking is available within 2½ miles of the ground as both the local Coldean or Mouslecoomb estates have resident parking only schemes. Fans using the ‘park on my drive’ or visitor scratch card schemes in these areas are advised to carry copies of any email confirmations.
Spaces in the nearby Bridge car park off of the A270 are available in advance only to all fans for £15 but usually sell out quite early and this can take 90 mins to clear after games.


Drinking Prior to the Game

Supporters will be able to use their usual pubs and bars in Brighton or Lewes before the game but are advised that all pubs close to Brighton station will be strictly home fans only. Away friendly bars, including Yates and Wetherspoons, are located on West Street, which is about ½mile directly down from the station near Churchill Square and The Lanes. Most town centre pubs will have stewards so obviously anti-social behaviour will not be tolerated and fans are also advised to allow at least 1¼ hours getting to the ground. Remember the ground is a 4 mile walk from the town centre!


Entry to ground

Turnstiles will be open 2 hours before kick-off. A cordon will be set up prior to the turnstiles to verify the named tickets against the correct season ticket or membership identification with non-ticket holders and Brighton supporters directed away from the segregated area by the away turnstiles. A rigorous body search will be made on all supporters. To avoid delays fans are asked to not bring any bags and carry as little as possible with any larger item including phones or glass cases held in their hands. Pyrotechnic and drug search dogs will also be employed. To avoid the obvious delays fans are encouraged to enter the ground as early as possible with full refreshment and bar facilities as well as TV screens available inside before the game. The continued sale of alcoholic drinks will depend on the actions of supporters on the concourse.


Restricted items, Banners and Flags

Only bags (including handbags) equivalent to A4 size or smaller will be allowed into the ground.
Only banners or flags (without sticks) smaller than 150cm x 150cm will be allowed into the ground.
Only 500ml plastic bottles of soft drinks or water will be allowed but the top may be removed.
No pyrotechnic devices, flagsticks, glass containers, or cans will be allowed
Only small folded, non-pointed umbrellas will be allowed.
No storage facilities will be available.


Accessible Facilities

There are 15 wheelchair spaces on elevated platforms and also some easy access seats which can be booked by phoning the CPFC Disability Liaison Officer, Pam Groves. Due to the Equalities Act supporters using these facilities must qualify under the same criteria as all other supporters. Priority parking locations are available at the Park and Ride sites with some buses having spaces for wheelchairs.


Abusive Chanting and Behaviour

Although this was discussed it was agreed to be a more general problem in football and not specific to these fixtures. However the documentary earlier this year by Gareth Thomas will throw a media spotlight on our actions at this game. There will be a large Police presence within the ground but I would encourage all fans to exert peer pressure on fellow supporters who may make homophobic chants or get involved in unruly behaviour. Actions at these games will affect the restrictions and potential numbers at future fixtures with Palace officials confirming that offences by season ticket holders could have consequences for attendance at future home games.


After the Game

All away supporters will be held back for a time whilst the immediate area is cleared. Police hope this will be a short period (my estimate is 20 mins) but it will depend on the match circumstances. Those Brighton fans who usually delay leaving the ground to avoid the initial queues may eventually be held back themselves. Refreshment and bar facilities will remain open after the game and fans can continue to use the seated areas or watch TV screens while they wait. Fans may wish to verify train times closer to the date as Southern usually run additional local services. While fans returning directly to London await their special train, others will be able to leave for trains to other destinations, proceed to the away coach park, join the relevant Park and Ride queues or depart for their car parks. Supporters who are returning on the special train will then be escorted to Falmer Station once it is clear just prior to departure.


Special Return Train

Southern will run a special train from Falmer Station. This will be 12 carriages long and capable of carrying almost 1000 people but supporters may have to walk through to the last carriages. This will probably run via Lewes where it will stop outside for a short time in order to reverse direction up the line to London Victoria. It will make three stops with exact times yet to be confirmed but my current estimates are: departing Falmer 22:20 and arriving Three Bridges 23:00; East Croydon 23:20; Clapham Junction 23:35 and Victoria 23.45. Transport Police will be expected to be on board but whatever the result please respect your fellow fans and do not damage or disrupt this service as everyone will be keen to get home.

SHIPEAGLE
09-11-2017, 08:31 PM
Thanks for info Chris.
If the turnstyles are opening 2 hours prior to kick off ie 5.45pm why are the coaches leaving at 3pm which means they will arrive no later than 5pm probably earlier. Why leave so earlier meaning supporters hanging around before the ground opens

old git
09-11-2017, 08:36 PM
Thanks for info Chris.
If the turnstyles are opening 2 hours prior to kick off ie 5.45pm why are the coaches leaving at 3pm which means they will arrive no later than 5pm probably earlier. Why leave so earlier meaning supporters hanging around before the ground opens

Better safe than sorry. The traffic on the way in to Brighton and on the A27 will be horrendous if left much later.

CJ PLUM
09-11-2017, 08:52 PM
Thanks for info Chris.
If the turnstyles are opening 2 hours prior to kick off ie 5.45pm why are the coaches leaving at 3pm which means they will arrive no later than 5pm probably earlier. Why leave so earlier meaning supporters hanging around before the ground opens

Probably better to stay on a warm coach as long as possible rather than entering the ground as the coach park, which can take up to 41 coaches, is right above the entrances.

If I was being cynical I think the price and time is almost set to deliberately put off fans from using the coaches. With school and rush hour services during the afternoon it would be difficult to arrange a large number of coaches for a midweek fixture.

With all the restrictions around the fixture travel by coach would normally be the easiest solution and could have been subsidised to encourage as many users as possible if played at the weekend.

SHIPEAGLE
09-11-2017, 08:54 PM
Previous evening games i think we left at 5pm and was easily there for kick off.
3pm means anyone taking kids cant use the coach as kids at school

SHIPEAGLE
09-11-2017, 09:02 PM
Surely with the obvious worry surrounding this fixture it would be easier to police with more support using the coaches, im sure the play off semi we had 6 maybe 8 coaches and no problems with getting them in or out of the coach park, apart from bit of traffic on A27.
Club should be encouraging supporters to use coaches rather than making it difficult with ridiculous timing.

ellioteagle1
09-11-2017, 09:03 PM
I hate how PC football has become.

Martinsleftpeg
09-11-2017, 09:10 PM
I hate how PC football has become.


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PeterH
09-11-2017, 09:13 PM
Special train back is a nice touch though.

Ooh Betty
09-11-2017, 09:15 PM
Actions may affect future restrictions and potential numbers ?

We already have a system in place to restrict numbers at away games. It will make no bloody difference.

Mad Raschic Ken
09-11-2017, 09:46 PM
Special train back is a nice touch though.

Definitely. We will be drinking near Selhurst pre-match, getting the train down and the special back. Can't be bothered with drinking in Brighton and being marched around by the authorities.

old git
10-11-2017, 07:16 AM
Definitely. We will be drinking near Selhurst pre-match, getting the train down and the special back. Can't be bothered with drinking in Brighton and being marched around by the authorities.

Lewes?

CharlieCPFC
10-11-2017, 07:36 AM
Lewes?

Probably the best bet in my eyes.

Selhurst Celtic
10-11-2017, 08:44 AM
We'll be travelling down early afternoon, get settled in a pub down there for a few pints & then get a cab to the ground. Will probably try & squeeze onto the special train back to civilisation afterwards.

scro
10-11-2017, 08:45 AM
Special train back is a nice touch though.

Will this be obvious after the game? If the game is finishing at 9:45 i am guessing this will be around 10:15?

OriginalNutter
10-11-2017, 09:05 AM
Special train back is a nice touch though.

Last time it was rammed. Could barely fit everyone in and was a very uncomfortable 1hr journey back to East Croydon. Would have been unberable had we lost ;)

Selhurst Celtic
10-11-2017, 09:37 AM
Last time it was rammed. Could barely fit everyone in and was a very uncomfortable 1hr journey back to East Croydon. Would have been unberable had we lost ;)

I thought it was a glorious journey. Although some bloke sparked up a massive doobie & you couldn't open the windows. I asked a dad with his lad if he wanted me to ask yer man to put it out, but he said it was fine. When the old bill walked through the train at East Croydon where the majority got off the train they remarked that it smelt a bit funky in our carriage.

"Wemberlee, wemberlee..."

old git
10-11-2017, 09:39 AM
I thought it was a glorious journey. Although some bloke sparked up a massive doobie & you couldn't open the windows. I asked a dad with his lad if he wanted me to ask yer man to put it out, but he said it was fine. When the old bill walked through the train at East Croydon where the majority got off the train they remarked that it smelt a bit funky in our carriage.

"Wemberlee, wemberlee..."

And three cheers to Croydon old bill who managed to get all the pubs to shut before we got there.:jerkit: We managed a couple of swift ones in the ship though thanks to a friendly bar man.:p

Selhurst Celtic
10-11-2017, 09:41 AM
I'm glad I stayed on the train until town then. Croydon is a pain for me to get home from (Eltham) but I was tempted to decamp with the mob at Croydon who were in search of more celebratory pints & discussing potential venues.

eaglejez
10-11-2017, 10:03 AM
Thanks for info Chris.
If the turnstyles are opening 2 hours prior to kick off ie 5.45pm why are the coaches leaving at 3pm which means they will arrive no later than 5pm probably earlier. Why leave so earlier meaning supporters hanging around before the ground opens

they'll arrive about 7 !

Penstone Eagle
10-11-2017, 11:59 AM
Thanks for info Chris.
If the turnstyles are opening 2 hours prior to kick off ie 5.45pm why are the coaches leaving at 3pm which means they will arrive no later than 5pm probably earlier. Why leave so earlier meaning supporters hanging around before the ground opens

Probably using the Kings Ferry route planners. Putney high Street can be hell at that that time of day.

OriginalNutter
10-11-2017, 12:16 PM
I thought it was a glorious journey. Although some bloke sparked up a massive doobie & you couldn't open the windows. I asked a dad with his lad if he wanted me to ask yer man to put it out, but he said it was fine. When the old bill walked through the train at East Croydon where the majority got off the train they remarked that it smelt a bit funky in our carriage.

"Wemberlee, wemberlee..."

It was only because my standing feet were about 1ft to the left of my body:supergrin:

The Amex is ours, the Amex is Ouurrrrrrs, F*ck of Brighton, the Amex is ours...

slondonlad
10-11-2017, 12:20 PM
Most town centre pubs will have stewards so obviously anti-social behaviour will not be tolerated and fans are also advised to allow at least 1¼ hours getting to the ground. Remember the ground is a 4 mile walk from the town centre!
Does this not sound like that anyone in the away pubs is gonna be walked to the ground under escort 😂😂😂

old git
10-11-2017, 01:43 PM
Most town centre pubs will have stewards so obviously anti-social behaviour will not be tolerated and fans are also advised to allow at least 1¼ hours getting to the ground. Remember the ground is a 4 mile walk from the town centre!
Does this not sound like that anyone in the away pubs is gonna be walked to the ground under escort ������

They like to march the palace from the wetherspoons straight up past the Brighton pubs.
Almost as if they want it to kick off where all the cameras are.:confused:
For that reason I would suggest Palace fans avoid Brighton.

Chris K
10-11-2017, 02:02 PM
Brighton will be absolutely fine so long as you don't try and drink near the station or use Yates or Spoons (which'll either lead to be walked all over the place or straight past their pubs). There's 300+ pubs between it and the next town along, Hove (you can't join two towns together and call it a city). So just choose elsewhere and get a cab/uber.

EnglandEagle
10-11-2017, 02:27 PM
Why oh, why does this have to be so bloody difficult. All I want to do is go out and have a couple of enjoyable beers. Laugh at the bottle jobs in their soulless stadium with their ridiculous view of football, make some noise, support the team and hopefully enjoy smashing them.

The way this gets policed inflames the problem rather than solves it because it creates this atmosphere and expectation that the norm is all out war on the streets when we play each other.

racehorse-80s
10-11-2017, 03:00 PM
First Brighton v Palace game at the Amex I have missed , Not as upset as I thought I would be as it seems the best days are over for this historic fixture and any atmosphere and fun has been sanitised out of the Match .

Payney
10-11-2017, 05:08 PM
Surely with the obvious worry surrounding this fixture it would be easier to police with more support using the coaches, im sure the play off semi we had 6 maybe 8 coaches and no problems with getting them in or out of the coach park, apart from bit of traffic on A27.
Club should be encouraging supporters to use coaches rather than making it difficult with ridiculous timing.

95% of our fans have absolutely no interest in getting on an official coach to go to any match, Especially so a match 40 miles down the road. May suit some family's or the older crowd but i'm not surprised they are running so few coaches for this game.

redandblue
10-11-2017, 05:57 PM
95% of our fans have absolutely no interest in getting on an official coach to go to any match, Especially so a match 40 miles down the road. May suit some family's or the older crowd but i'm not surprised they are running so few coaches for this game.

I usually only get the coach when I have my little one with me and her mum would not allow her to go to the Amex, cant blame her for that I would not really want a child of mine to have see people clapping with little bits of paper and singing from a song sheet wearing white and blue jester hats. Anyway I go to this fixture just because it is so much easier and I have a 2 hour drive home from CPFC

New LP
11-11-2017, 01:12 AM
They like to march the palace from the wetherspoons straight up past the Brighton pubs.
Almost as if they want it to kick off where all the cameras are.:confused:
For that reason I would suggest Palace fans avoid Brighton.


Just avoid Wetherspoons and West Street and drink in one of probably 100 pubs in Brighton and Hove.

Neillo's Son
11-11-2017, 08:50 AM
There are tonnes of good pubs in Brighton in the Laines, none of which will be occupied by Brighton fans. I expect the majority of them will work a normal day whereas many of our fans will be down from 2pm or so.

PM me if you want any good pub options, crap month of the year to visit Brighton but it’s still a good place to drink.

cpfc4evandeva
11-11-2017, 09:06 AM
There's probably 20+ decent places to drink within a mile of the station, none of which you would run into any trouble with the police or Brighton. Unless you wanted that of course...

WestBerksPalace
16-11-2017, 10:46 AM
Seems the coaches are fully booked now anyway! What's the deal with the special train, do you have to buy a ticket in advance? Or do you just buy a return ticket on the outward journey then just dive onto the special? It sounds like the special train is one way only, from Falmer? And does anyone know what the parking situation is like in Three Bridges, were I need to get off, for my drive home.
Agree with many on here though, the police and the authorities have done their best to turn this game into an utter nightmare. Also, why just 2,000 tickets, crazyness.

old git
16-11-2017, 10:47 AM
Seems the coaches are fully booked now anyway! What's the deal with the special train, do you have to buy a ticket in advance? Or do yo just buy a return ticket on the outward journey then just dive onto the special? It sounds like the special train is one way only, from Falmer? And does anyone know what the parking situation is like in Three Bridges, were I need to get off, for my drive home.
Agree with many on here though, the police and the authorities have done their best to turn this game into an utter nightmare. Also, why just 2,000 tickets, crazyness.

It pulls in and we all get on.No booking , they just want us out and on the way home.

WestBerksPalace
16-11-2017, 11:16 AM
Ok, fair enough, thanks.
I drove to the 3-1 and 2-0 play off win, lucky to miss the 0-3! Sounds like parking restrictions are even more severe since they added the extra capacity.

sherstonpalace
16-11-2017, 11:20 AM
Has anybody used the Bridge Car Park for previous BHA matches? If so, is it painless enough to get back to - and out of - after the game?

EddieEdwards
16-11-2017, 12:26 PM
Has anybody used the Bridge Car Park for previous BHA matches? If so, is it painless enough to get back to - and out of - after the game?http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?p=13919735#post13919735

King William
16-11-2017, 12:36 PM
Has anybody used the Bridge Car Park for previous BHA matches? If so, is it painless enough to get back to - and out of - after the game?

that is where I have booked.

for the two previous games we won, I did the park and ride...on both occasions by the time got back to the car it was empty and traffic free

scro
16-11-2017, 12:59 PM
I am having trouble deciding how much of an a'se ache the special train is likely to be. Standing for two hours after having been kept back etc.

Ooh Betty
16-11-2017, 03:07 PM
I am having trouble deciding how much of an a'se ache the special train is likely to be. Standing for two hours after having been kept back etc.

If you have to stand for 2 hours then it shouldn't be an arse ache.

old git
16-11-2017, 03:34 PM
I am having trouble deciding how much of an a'se ache the special train is likely to be. Standing for two hours after having been kept back etc.

It fits a 1000 people apparently.With people driving,coaches and people taking other trains there should be enough seats.

Keith Powell
16-11-2017, 04:07 PM
Seems the coaches are fully booked now anyway! What's the deal with the special train, do you have to buy a ticket in advance? Or do you just buy a return ticket on the outward journey then just dive onto the special? It sounds like the special train is one way only, from Falmer? And does anyone know what the parking situation is like in Three Bridges, were I need to get off, for my drive home.
Agree with many on here though, the police and the authorities have done their best to turn this game into an utter nightmare. Also, why just 2,000 tickets, crazyness.
You will need to check if it is going to stop at three bridges.

EddieEdwards
16-11-2017, 04:14 PM
You will need to check if it is going to stop at three bridges.Calls at Three Bridges, East Croydon, Clapham Junction and Victoria. See first post of this thread.

cpfcfly
16-11-2017, 04:30 PM
It fits a 1000 people apparently.With people driving,coaches and people taking other trains there should be enough seats.
Not everybody will be wanting it either. Quite a few Sussex-based fans. Haywards Heath for me. :hi:

Chobham Eagle
18-11-2017, 12:10 PM
I hate how PC football has become.

The restrictions seem rather over the top but I can't for the life of me see what's "PC" about them.

Joe.L
18-11-2017, 12:59 PM
Amazing how that one line of stewards is keeping those 'warring' Arsenal and Spurs fans apart yet it takes swathes of empty seats and restricted allocations to stop serious outbreaks of violence between Palace and Brighton fans :confused:

wrightchipvcfc
18-11-2017, 06:15 PM
Friend of mine sometimes let me go on his spare st been spurs Chelsea man u ect there's never much of. Gap and they all just come out together and mix in station ques funny enough only time I've seen any different was when they marched hf down to station

Ooh Betty
19-11-2017, 04:58 AM
Friend of mine sometimes let me go on his spare st been spurs Chelsea man u ect there's never much of. Gap and they all just come out together and mix in station ques funny enough only time I've seen any different was when they marched hf down to station

Illiteracy at it's finest.