Daily Palace Quiz Question [Archive] - Page 11

big bad John

07-08-2008, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by moverman

The Ref and Whistle opening night was attended by big Mal and some players but the owner/manager was not connected to the club.

... :D

My dad has the previous sign ' the Bricklayers arms' in his garage. God knows how he got it. Has it reverted back to ' the BLyers arms', Pete ? I've got pic's somewhere of the opening night.

moverman

07-08-2008, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by big bad John
Has it reverted back to ' the BLyers arms', Pete ? I've got pic's somewhere of the opening night.

Not sure John, I'll check next time I'm passing.

(Got a feeling it might even have closed) like so many around the area.

Pubs are empty everywhere over here except at weekends, what's it like in NY?

IAN WALSH

07-08-2008, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by big bad John
Has it reverted back to ' the BLyers arms', Pete ? .
Welcome Inn, owned by the fat paddy controller Dempsy.

big bad John

07-08-2008, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by moverman
Not sure John, I'll check next time I'm passing.

(Got a feeling it might even have closed) like so many around the area.

Pubs are empty everywhere over here except at weekends, what's it like in NY?

They're all privately owned or leased from owners. The old time, neighbourhood gin joint is slowly but surely dying out. Alot of places for sale, but no buyers. The younger generation don't seem to drink anymore. I know it different in England. Each time I come back I'm still surprized the three old pubs at the Pond are still there. Only a matter of time. Anyway Pete, fire up a question, I'm in a brainy mood.

moverman

07-08-2008, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by big bad John
Anyway Pete, fire up a question, I'm in a brainy mood.

OK, sticking with John "Yogi Bear Hughes"

Apart from his brace against Sheff Utd, name the only 2 other goals he got for Palace in his time with us. (against which teams)

big bad John

07-08-2008, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by moverman
OK, sticking with John "Yogi Bear Hughes"

Apart from his brace against Sheff Utd, name the only 2 other goals he got for Palace in his time with us. (against which teams)

Remember him scoring against chelsea and the other one was away from home but I can't remember against who.

tony 1947

07-08-2008, 05:08 PM

Yogi also scored against Ipswich away from home 72-73

moverman

07-08-2008, 05:20 PM

Well done John and Tony.

Sticking with Yogi again, what game was he sent off?

big bad John

07-08-2008, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by moverman
Well done John and Tony.

Sticking with Yogi again, what game was he sent off?

Everton in the cup.

In the first match 2-2 a Palace player scored a brace, and in the replay another Palace player scored two in a 2-3 defeat. Who were they?

Jim Cannon

07-08-2008, 05:49 PM

Don't know but at least we've got over the Yogi obsession.

tony 1947

07-08-2008, 06:17 PM

showing my age! remember both games. Willie Wallace at home and Bobby Tambling away. I also remember a terrible kick by Joe Royle on Jacko's thigh. He managed to play in the replay, following alot of treatment. Fans never forgot that

moverman

07-08-2008, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by big bad John
Everton in the cup.

In the first match 2-2 a Palace player scored a brace, and in the replay another Palace player scored two in a 2-3 defeat. Who were they?

Willie Wallace and Bobby Tambling.

Against which team did Bobby Goldthorpe make his one and only Palace appearance in that season?

telodaja

07-08-2008, 09:27 PM

Wolves
Sticking with 71/72 which defender made his last 2 appearances for the club both as a sub that season ?

big bad John

07-08-2008, 09:41 PM

John Loughlan came on twice as sub in early season games before being transferred.

To which non English team was he transferred to ?

tony 1947

08-08-2008, 05:43 AM

Good question I have a feeling John had a spell with Wrexham.

Before Joining which club at that time was in the Southern League ?

big bad John

08-08-2008, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by tony 1947
Good question I have a feeling John had a spell with Wrexham.

Before Joining which club at that time was in the Southern League ?

yeah he headed to Wrexham.
The obvious guess has to be Wimbledon, but Hereford seems to ring a bell.

tony 1947

08-08-2008, 09:39 PM

Your first answer was right John. He played for 2 seasons for Wimbledon, then 2 for Kettering then managed Corby Town. He became a postman in Leicester I believe. If you want another queston about a scotsman who played that time.
Which club did John McCormick go on loan to in 1972-73 season ?
He never played a league game for them.

Hedgehog

09-08-2008, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by tony 1947
Which club did John McCormick go on loan to in 1972-73 season ?
He never played a league game for them.
Orient? Everyone elese went there! :D

tony 1947

09-08-2008, 04:59 AM

Sorry Hedgehog that is not right, but it was a London club.

moverman

09-08-2008, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by tony 1947
Which club did John McCormick go on loan to in 1972-73 season ?
He never played a league game for them.

Think it was QPR

tony 1947

09-08-2008, 09:29 AM

Well done it was QPR. We also played his testimonial against them Sep 74. Over 12,000 of us turned up to support.
If you want another John Mc Cormick question. Palace signed John from Aberdeen close season 1966, but he started his career with another scottish club which packed up in 1967. The club was in Glasgow. two words. Who was that?

telodaja

09-08-2008, 09:45 AM

A.Third Lanark

Q Which other Scotsman signed at the same time as J Mc ?

tony 1947

11-08-2008, 07:24 AM

It was Tom White who later went on to Blackpool & Crewe. A more modern question which club did Vince Hilaire sign for when he left us in 1984 ?

Panther

11-08-2008, 07:51 AM

Luton?

tony 1947

11-08-2008, 06:49 PM

Well Done! He did join Luton. Vince was not there long and was soon on the move to ?

Ian Hart

11-08-2008, 07:29 PM

Pompey. And then, I think, Leeds.

Psychokiller

11-08-2008, 08:41 PM

..then after Leeds, Stoke and Exeter. Pretty sure that later on he and Billy Gilbert became joint managers of Waterlooville.

I also remember that we were in for him when he went to Leeds.

tony 1947

12-08-2008, 02:40 PM

You took my next question away. I am sure all your answers were correct. If you would like another one. Between 1969 and 1976 I make it that 10 players went from Palace to Orient (of course I maybe wrong)
One who went on loan 72-73 is included and also one who went via another club who did not play him. Can you name them ?

Dorking .Eagle

12-08-2008, 03:37 PM

John Jackson is one for sure.

Alan Whittle?

Ian Hart

12-08-2008, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Dorking .Eagle
John Jackson is one for sure.

Alan Whittle?

I'm sure both of those are right.

Sewell, Possee, Hoadley, Lazarus, Roffey and Queen could be others.

Ruskin Old Boy

12-08-2008, 04:03 PM

Not forgetting Bert Howe and David Payne

ElwissAtMemphis

12-08-2008, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by tony 1947
You took my next question away. I am sure all your answers were correct. If you would like another one. Between 1969 and 1976 I make it that 10 players went from Palace to Orient (of course I maybe wrong)
One who went on loan 72-73 is included and also one who went via another club who did not play him. Can you name them ?

Sorry to be a kill-joy, but we've had this question before. Well, not exactly; the original question identified Orient as the team that had had the most ex-Palace players who had played for them throughout the 1970's. The final list came to 10.

I won't copy the list in case people want to try and guess the answer for themselves but the answer for the original question can be found here ...
http://forums.cpfc.org/postings.php?s=&action=getip&postid=5057191

Of course, the 2 timeframes aren't exactly the same and the original list includes a player who never played a 1st team match so the 2 answers are probably not exactly the same.

tony 1947

12-08-2008, 06:15 PM

I thought maybe it was done before and the answers so far have nine of the players. The one missing is the one who went on loan. Bert Howe did join Orient as did Brian Wood so that was correct. But that was in 1966-67

big bad John

13-08-2008, 01:15 AM

Malcolm Beason who was in the first team squad but never played a game was transferred to Orient where he made just one appearance.

tony 1947

13-08-2008, 06:13 AM

You are right John. Did not include Malcolm Beason. So that makes the 10. I suppose the loan one should not really count as he came back to palace and played very well especially when we reached the cup semi final 1976. But who was he ?

telodaja

13-08-2008, 06:32 AM

Peter Wall ?

tony 1947

13-08-2008, 06:55 AM

1f88

Quite right it was Peter Wall. He played 10 games on loan to Orient season 72-73.
Perhaps someone else would like to set a quiz question!

big bad John

13-08-2008, 02:53 PM

In our first season in the old First Division (69-70) we used about 25 different players. This seems a lot for that era. I'm not going to try and name them all but I'll put about 19 and one of them is the answer to the question I'll ask after.
1. John Jackson 2. John Sewell. 3. Tony Taylor. 4. John loughlan. 5. Gerry Queen. 6. Roger Hynde 7, Bobby Woodruff 8. Roger Hoy 9 John McCormick 10. Jim Scott 11. Mel Blyth 12. Per Bartrum 13 Steve Kember. 14. Cliff Jackson 15. Borge Thorup. 16 Mark Lazurus 17. Bobby Tambling. 18 David Payne 19 Phil Hoadley.

Which one of those players moved to another club and played on the winning side in a European cup tie v Real Madrid.
Name the player and who he played for against Real.

telodaja

13-08-2008, 02:57 PM

How many of the current members of the Football League have we never played in a Football League match. For the purposes of this I am treating MK Dons, Aldershot and Accrington Stanley as being continuations of their former clubs.

telodaja

13-08-2008, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by big bad John
In our first season in the old First Division (69-70) we used about 25 different players. This seems a lot for that era. I'm not going to try and name them all but I'll put about 19 and one of them is the answer to the question I'll ask after.
1. John Jackson 2. John Sewell. 3. Tony Taylor. 4. John loughlan. 5. Gerry Queen. 6. Roger Hynde 7, Bobby Woodruff 8. Roger Hoy 9 John McCormick 10. Jim Scott 11. Mel Blyth 12. Per Bartrum 13 Steve Kember. 14. Cliff Jackson 15. Borge Thorup. 16 Mark Lazurus 17. Bobby Tambling. 18 David Payne 19 Phil Hoadley.

Which one of those players moved to another club and played on the winning side in a European cup tie v Real Madrid.
Name the player and who he played for against Real.

Steve Kember for Chelsea

big bad John

13-08-2008, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by telodaja
Steve Kember for Chelsea

No, Kember never moved to Chelsea until the season after they won the Cup winners cup.

telodaja

13-08-2008, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by big bad John
No, Kember never moved to Chelsea until the season after they won the Cup winners cup. Ooh thought it was too easy !
There arent many of them that went to clubs that played in Europe and of those that did I cannot recall any of them playing Real Madrid
Woodruff to Cardiff, Hoadley to Norwich Blyth to Southampton sure none of them played Madrid. Surely Bartram or Thorup didn't go back to Denmark and play for a team that beat Real Madrid.

moverman

13-08-2008, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by big bad John

Which one of those players moved to another club and played on the winning side in a European cup tie v Real Madrid.
Name the player and who he played for against Real.

That would be our old friend Bobby Woodruff who went to Cardiff City.

big bad John

13-08-2008, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by moverman
That would be our old friend Bobby Woodruff who went to Cardiff City.

Well done Pete. March 1971 Quarter final of the cup winners cup.
Cardiff beat madrid 1-0 before 50,000 at Ninian Park and dear old Bobby was leading the forward line for the taffys. They lost 2-0 in Spain.

ElwissAtMemphis

13-08-2008, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by telodaja
How many of the current members of the Football League have we never played in a Football League match. For the purposes of this I am treating MK Dons, Aldershot and Accrington Stanley as being continuations of their former clubs.

I've got 7 that we've never played in a League match (we've played Cheltenham in the League Cup fairly recently) ...

Yeovil Town
Cheltenham Town
Wycombe Wanderers
Morecambe Town
Barnet
Macclesfield Town
Dagenham & Redbridge

CP Satellite

13-08-2008, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by ElwissAtMemphis
I've got 7 that we've never played in a League match (we've played Cheltenham in the League Cup fairly recently) ...

Yeovil Town
Cheltenham Town
Wycombe Wanderers
Morecambe Town
Barnet
Macclesfield Town
Dagenham & Redbridge

Technically, Palace have played Barnet & Wycombe Wanderers in a 'League' match.

This would have been in our very first season - 1905/06 - when Palace were in the Southern League Division Two. Palace got promoted to SL Division One - which actually contained Spurs and West Ham, who were both yet to gain Football League Status (Spurs did in 1908 and West Ham in 1918) - but Barnet and Wycombe did'nt gain promotion to SL Division One - which became the new 'Third Division' of the Football League in 1920 - largely with the same teams Palace had been playing since 1906!

telodaja

14-08-2008, 08:01 AM

Don't think Barnet were in the Sl Div 2 in 1905/06. Agree Wycombe were, though in my defence I did say Football League in the question.

Ruskin Old Boy

14-08-2008, 08:31 AM

Barnet's first match at Underhill, September 1907, was against Crystal palace reserves (not sure if this was a friendly or an amateur London league). They were founder members of the Athenian League in 1912 where they remained until 1966 when they turned professional and applied, successfully, to join the Southern League.

Billy999999999

16-08-2008, 08:45 PM

name two players in this photo who played for Palace ?

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/bollockstoyou/plymoutha.jpg

tony 1947

17-08-2008, 03:50 PM

I am sure it is Plymouth Argyle around my era 60s early 70s. I think it is ball juggler David Burnside second from right back row. The only other player I can think of is David Provan but I cannot place him in the picture.

Billy999999999

17-08-2008, 07:44 PM

21ca

Burnside is right.

moverman

17-08-2008, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by tony 1947
I am sure it is Plymouth Argyle around my era 60s early 70s. I think it is ball juggler David Burnside second from right back row. The only other player I can think of is David Provan but I cannot place him in the picture.

Is that Cliff Jackson, front row second from left?

Billy999999999

17-08-2008, 08:06 PM

Billy999999999

17-08-2008, 08:09 PM

he's in here somewhere as well (so am i )

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk264/bollockstoyou/crystalpalace.jpg

Ruskin Old Boy

17-08-2008, 08:37 PM

Only other Palace player (I think) that has a connection with both clubs from that era is Steve Wooldridge who was on loan to Plymouth in 1970 or 71 (he never played first team football for Palace).

Ian Hart

17-08-2008, 09:30 PM

Where are you in the photo, Billy?

moverman

17-08-2008, 10:21 PM

I think Billy is third row, third from right standing next to Len Chatterton and Ernie Whalley.

Billy999999999

17-08-2008, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Ruskin Old Boy
Only other Palace player (I think) that has a connection with both clubs from that era is Steve Wooldridge who was on loan to Plymouth in 1970 or 71 (he never played first team football for Palace).

Steve Wooldridge is correct.he played in a couple of first team friendlies and was at the club for a few years..........liked a bet !

Billy999999999

17-08-2008, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by moverman
I think Billy is third row, third from right standing next to Len Chatterton and Ernie Whalley.

that's right.Wooldridge is behind me between Tambling and Tony Taylor.

moverman

17-08-2008, 11:14 PM

Billy, is that Ross Jenkins in the back row between Jim Cannon and Mel Blyth?

Also, do you remember a junior keeper around this time, Kevin Gray?

Billy999999999

18-08-2008, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by moverman
Billy, is that Ross Jenkins in the back row between Jim Cannon and Mel Blyth?

Also, do you remember a junior keeper around this time, Kevin Gray?

yes that's him.couldn't believe it when he made his debut against United.he went on to do very well for Watford though.

can't remember the keeper.Paul Hammond was a big mate of mine,i was on holiday with him and a couple of other lads from the club when i met my wife.

other keepers were Chris (Frank) Large,Colin Wooton,Gary Towse and Gordon Robinson.

big bad John

18-08-2008, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by moverman
[B?

Also, do you remember a junior keeper around this time, Kevin Gray? [/B]

I remember Kevin Gray from pick up games on mitcham commmon. Great keeper. I was a few years younger than him and I'm pretty sure he was the keeper for Landfrac school. They produced some great keepers. Their was a keeper at Norbury Manor who went all the way to the reserves with Palace. Help me out here Mover. Was it Troke? Didn't even represent Croydon but ended up at Palace and very nearly made it.

tony 1947

18-08-2008, 10:30 AM

Looking in my old advertiser reports. Kevin Gray played for the juniors 72-73. Not every game was reported so I cannot say how many games he played. But I have no record of him playing the season before or after. The main junior goalkeeper was Parry.

moverman

18-08-2008, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by big bad John
Their was a keeper at Norbury Manor who went all the way to the reserves with Palace. Help me out here Mover. Was it Troke?

Did he used to live down Northborough Road, John? (near Noggins house and Martin Cardon) circa 1970?

There was a guy in my year at Norbury Manor who I think made it onto Palace's youth called Mark Peasey or Peasley (sp?) this would have been a bit later around 1974.

By the way I played with Kevin Gray in goal in the 80's and he told me it was Big Mal who didn't fancy him as he was too small for a keeper. He was as brave as a lion for us and fantastic on one on ones.

tony 1947

22-08-2008, 07:23 AM

Another quiz question. Hopefully not done before. Ricky Heppolette scored just one goal for Palace following his move from Orient. But you will not find it in any record books. Why?

stevek

22-08-2008, 08:14 AM

Complete guess - it was in a game that was abandoned?

tony 1947

22-08-2008, 11:25 AM

Good guess It was played at Lincoln December 4 1976. Palace were winning 1-0, when it was played again we lost 2-3. Ricky had already gone by then to ?

telodaja

22-08-2008, 12:52 PM

Orient ? No pun intended !

tony 1947

22-08-2008, 05:40 PM

No he did not go to the Orient, he was one who came from the Orient. Again no pun intended. Ricky did the reverse journey which was unusual for palace in the 1970s. He left Palace for a lower league northern team who reached the cup semi final in 19997

Ruskin Old Boy

22-08-2008, 05:51 PM

Chesterfield ... not a frequent destination for Palace players.

big bad John

24-08-2008, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by CP Satellite

I don't think there were any non-league finals played at Selhurst Park (unless you include schools matches, which sometimes happened) so the
Walton & Hersham game you thought of is probably when Palace beat them 4-0 at SP in the 1st Round on the 1975/76 Cup Run.

The records show that Enfield beat Walthamstow 1-0 in 1967 and Sutton drew 0-0 with Leytonstone in 1968 in the old FA Amateur Cup Semi Finals.

it was actually the semi final of the old amateur cup in the 72-73 season. Walton and Hersham beat Highgate utd? 4-0 ( could have been hendon). they went on to win at Wembley.

question: who played for Walton that day and went on to manage Palace?

tony 1947

24-08-2008, 06:54 AM

I saw the Amateur cup semi finals so I know the answer. But I believe others should now it and let them have a go. It was Highgate and it was 4-0. Also in 1936 Palace did hold the Amateur Cup Final Casuals and Ilford drew 1-1 aet in front of over 25,000 spectators, Casuals won the replay, not sure where that was played. Other Amateur Cup semi -finals were also played in the 1930s and 1951.

telodaja

24-08-2008, 07:19 AM

Total guess - Dave Bassett

Bringing us up to date, yesterday we set a new [unwanted] Palace record. The first time we have failed to score in the first 3 league games of the season. How many times and when did we fail to score in the first 2 league games ? That should get you reaching for the record books - it did me !

BBD

24-08-2008, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by telodaja
How many times and when did we fail to score in the first 2 league games ? That should get you reaching for the record books - it did me !

Kick off with 79/80 - Man. City Away and S'ton at Home, both 0-0 draws.

big bad John

24-08-2008, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by telodaja
Total guess - Dave Bassett
!

totally correct:p

tony 1947

27-08-2008, 08:31 AM

Other years when we failed to score in our first two games, were in our old first division days 1970-71 and 72-73. I saw all 4 games at West Brom and Man City home. And Stoke away and Derby home. I did have to look through my records to find out. I could not find any other seasons where that happened other than 79-80 which has already been mentioned.

Billy999999999

27-08-2008, 07:10 PM

Bert Head's team talk for an away game at WBA (the one mentioned above i think) was legendary.

"hold 'em for the first 20 minutes,they'll come at you like a bunch of Arabs"

big bad John

28-08-2008, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by CP Satellite
Yep - Palace were playing at Liverpool in the League that day.

Here's the full list - with the aid of a reference book -

Stoke 3 Everton 2 FA Cup 3rd/4th Place Play Off 1971
Orient 0 Portsmouth 2 FA Cup replay 1974
England U23 3 Czechoslovakia 1 1974
Wimbledon 0 Leeds 1 FA Cup replay 1975
England U23 2 Portugal 0 1975
Croydon 1 Millwall 1 FA Cup 2nd Round 1979

Above is the answer to a previous question about games played at selhurst that didn't include palace.
Question: name four players who scored in those games who played with Palace at some time in their career and name one who scored who managed Palace but never played for them.

telodaja

28-08-2008, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by tony 1947
Other years when we failed to score in our first two games, were in our old first division days 1970-71 and 72-73. I saw all 4 games at West Brom and Man City home. And Stoke away and Derby home. I did have to look through my records to find out. I could not find any other seasons where that happened other than 79-80 which has already been mentioned.

93.94 Drew 0.0 with Tranmere at Home, then lost 2.0 at Bristol City.
We then went onto win the League !

telodaja

28-08-2008, 07:14 AM

ElwissAtMemphis

28-08-2008, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by big bad John

Question: name four players who scored in those games who played with Palace at some time in their career and name one who scored who managed Palace but never played for them.

Peter Taylor scored in both England U23 games. (Ray Wilkins and Trevor Francis played in the Portugal match but didn't score)

I'd guess that Nicky Chatterton scored for Millwall against Croydon but I'm not sure.

big bad John

28-08-2008, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by telodaja
Totally of the top of my head Alan whittle for Everton. Trevor Francis for the U21's ?

good call with Alan whittle. Don't think Francis scored for the U. 23's. I stand to be corrected though.

big bad John

28-08-2008, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by ElwissAtMemphis
Peter Taylor scored in both England U23 games. (Ray Wilkins and Trevor Francis played in the Portugal match but didn't score)

I'd guess that Nicky Chatterton scored for Millwall against Croydon but I'm not sure.

Right with Nick Chatterton Elwiss and PT

1. Alan Whittle for Everton v Stoke.
2. Peter Taylor for U.23's
3. Nicky Chatterton for Millwall v Croydon.

2 more

BBD

28-08-2008, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by big bad John
Above is the answer to a previous question about games played at selhurst that didn't include palace.
Question: name four players who scored in those games who played with Palace at some time in their career and name one who scored who managed Palace but never played for them.

It was Dave Bassett who scored for the Dons Vs Dirty Leeds who managed us.

Wasn't the Croydon score 2-3? This may at least improve the chances of at least a couple of ex-Palace scoring.

Has the Play Off between Gillingham and Swindon (86/7 Play Off) at Selhurst been mentioned. Coaches were parked all the way back to Brigstock Road nr The Pond...something like 18,000 there.

Jim Cannon

28-08-2008, 11:44 AM

That's a lot of coaches Don

BBD

28-08-2008, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Jim Cannon
That's a lot of coaches Don

Don't think they were parked ALL down the High Street but I got to about counting 50 before giving up. I'd say the vast majority of the crowd had 'travelled' to get there, so a possible for the theoretical 'most away fans' at Selhurst! :o

Jim Cannon

28-08-2008, 11:54 AM

Surely the 'most away fans' at SP would be Leeds v Wimbledon in the '70's?

telodaja

28-08-2008, 12:05 PM

Wasn't Taylor playing for us already when he played in the U21 match.
Wimbledon didn't score against Leeds so assume Basset scored for Walton in the other match mentioned.

Diid Stewart Jump get one of his rare goals against Everton ?

BBD

28-08-2008, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by Jim Cannon
Surely the 'most away fans' at SP would be Leeds v Wimbledon in the '70's?

Out of 45K, how many were Palace....quite a few. I wouldn't count neutral - Millwall (surely quite a few when it was Leeds they were playing), plus Charlton etc as away fans'.

I'd say 5K Dons, 8K Leeds tops. Next to the Cup Final this was probably Wimbledon's finest hour (and a half) and the reason Ron got interested in 'em in the first place.

telodaja

28-08-2008, 12:09 PM

George Graham for Portsmouth ?

BBD

28-08-2008, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by telodaja

Wimbledon didn't score against Leeds so assume Basset scored for Walton in the other match mentioned.

Diid Stewart Jump get one of his rare goals against Everton ?

Was thinking Bassett got an O.G. Vee Leeds - it was o' course Johnny Giles. :o

Was it SJ scoring for Stoke??

Jim Cannon

28-08-2008, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by BBD

Was it SJ scoring for Stoke??

Simon Jordan didn't play for Stoke.

Sorry Coat On:D

tony 1947

28-08-2008, 01:28 PM

I also thought Bassett scored the og. The missing one I believe as I was there was Bobby Kellard for Portsmouth v Orient. 5 ex Palace players played in that game.

Psychokiller

28-08-2008, 01:45 PM

Did Steve Bruce play in that Gillingham play off?

Psychokiller

28-08-2008, 01:47 PM

Also Fraser Digby probably played for Swindon and Steve Lovell for Gillingham?

tony 1947

28-08-2008, 02:16 PM

The playoff May 29 1987 Digby was in goal for Swindon. the others did not play.

ElwissAtMemphis

28-08-2008, 02:21 PM

Footage here ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRI9OmC-WRE
(you need to skip to 07:30 where it starts to avoid clips of a load of obscure Gillingham matches)

big bad John

28-08-2008, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by tony 1947
I also thought Bassett scored the og. The missing one I believe as I was there was Bobby Kellard for Portsmouth v Orient. 5 ex Palace players played in that game.

that's the one Tony, Bobby Kellard. Basset og is a bit controversial as some papers gave it to Giles. If you look at the footage no way was it going in until it hit Basset and wrong footed Dick Guy in the Wimbledon goal.

1. Whittle for Everton v stoke
2. Peter Taylor for England under 23's
3. Nick Chatterton for Millwall v Croydon
4. Dave Basset own goal for Leeds v Wimbledon
5. Bobby Kellard for Pompey v Orient.

big bad John

28-08-2008, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by BBD

I'd say 5K Dons, 8K Leeds tops.

Think you're being very generous to Leeds here Don. Leeds didn't travel in big numbers to London in those days. I was at the match and reckon they had 3k tops. 5k Dons? They'd be Chelsea or members of the local tennis club. They were only averaging 1,500 in the Southern league. 40,000 Wimbledon for the night fans.

Billy999999999

28-08-2008, 10:17 PM

Stoke 3 Everton 2 FA Cup 3rd/4th Place Play Off 1971

Stewart Jump ? not sure if Whittle played.i was at the game.

Billy999999999

28-08-2008, 10:26 PM

sorry just looked it up.Whittle did play and score. i think Stoke were unlucky losers 3 - 2 to Palace around that time too.as well as losing a 2 - 0 lead against Arsenal in the semi final first game.

tony 1947

29-08-2008, 06:42 AM

Yes! Billy you are right about that Stoke team. They were good at that time. Terry Wharton scored his only league goal in that game. I expect you remember the Forest home game the following season when the ref gave a goal to Palace by Terry, but changed his mind after Steve Kember told him when asked that it hit the side netting.

Billy999999999

29-08-2008, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by tony 1947
Yes! Billy you are right about that Stoke team. They were good at that time. Terry Wharton scored his only league goal in that game. I expect you remember the Forest home game the following season when the ref gave a goal to Palace by Terry, but changed his mind after Steve Kember told him when asked that it hit the side netting.

i remember it well ! Steve Kember got some good press over that incident.i think the ref was Tommy Dawes ?

tony 1947

30-08-2008, 07:54 AM

Actually I have the ref as R. M. Judson from West Kirby. Tommy Dawes I have as ref in the mid-week game v Liverpool also at home I may have got them mixed up.
Quiz Question from the same season. On September 4 1971. Palace lost 2-0 at Leeds. Nothing unusual about the result, but there was something out of the usual about the game. What was that?

Ruskin Old Boy

30-08-2008, 07:59 AM

Because of persistent crowd trouble at Elland Road, Leeds had to play thier first few home games of the 71/72 season at Huddersfield.

tony 1947

30-08-2008, 11:04 AM

1f5b

That is correct. I am not sure how many they played away from Elland Road

Billy999999999

30-08-2008, 01:12 PM

Manchester United played their first two home games "away" that year as well.at Liverpool and Stoke if i remember correctly.

big bad John

30-08-2008, 05:08 PM

The football league controversially started playing Sunday matches in 1974. Believe it had something to do with the miners strike.

Question: who was the ex Palace player who had the dubious honor of being the first player to be sent off on the Sabbath?

telodaja

03-09-2008, 02:01 PM

Dave Provan was sent off on 10th March 74 for Plymouth at Port Vale but the first Sunday league games were played 20th Jan, surely someone was sent off before then.

telodaja

03-09-2008, 02:08 PM

A nice easy one [for us ol un's]
Spot the 4 future Palace players
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd331/telodaja/QPR72-73.jpg

Panther

03-09-2008, 02:35 PM

Hazell, Evans, Francis and Vegetables?

(If only we'd got the one front left instead!)

telodaja

03-09-2008, 02:44 PM

Correct, Just as easy 2 future Palace players

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd331/telodaja/b.jpg

Nelson Muntz

03-09-2008, 02:46 PM

John Burridge & George Wood both in the Blackpool picture.

Nelson Muntz

03-09-2008, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by telodaja
Dave Provan was sent off on 10th March 74 for Plymouth at Port Vale but the first Sunday league games were played 20th Jan, surely someone was sent off before then.
I went to the first ever game played on a Sunday. It was Millwall .v. either Fulham or Luton can't quite remember which.
It was the first ever game as it kicked of at 11-30am.
I don't remember if anybody got sent off.

telodaja

03-09-2008, 03:05 PM

Knew they were too easy, try this one. Spot the future Palace Manager

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd331/telodaja/a.jpg

telodaja

03-09-2008, 03:05 PM

Knew they were too easy, try this one. Spot the future Palace Manager

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd331/telodaja/a.jpg

telodaja

03-09-2008, 03:07 PM

Double post sorry

Nelson Muntz

03-09-2008, 03:23 PM

Neil Warnock top left?
What team is it?

Dorking .Eagle

03-09-2008, 03:38 PM

Looks like they're wearing Man City home and away kit in that pic, but the stand in the background looks distictly more like Scunthorpe's Old show ground, than Maine Road

monkey

03-09-2008, 03:41 PM

Its hartlepool Isn't It? didn't NW used to play for them?

Nelson Muntz

03-09-2008, 03:43 PM

Looks like Tommy Craig (Front row 4th right) and Martin Dobson (Front row 6th right) if that helps.

Fat Andy

03-09-2008, 03:53 PM

Top left looks like Alan Smith with hair.

telodaja

03-09-2008, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by monkey
Its hartlepool Isn't It? didn't NW used to play for them?

Is the correct answer. NW is 1st left in the back row

telodaja

03-09-2008, 07:52 PM

2nd from the right front row is a guy called Bobby Veart. It's quite an unusal surname, wonder if he is related in someway to Carl ?

big bad John

03-09-2008, 09:54 PM

big bad John

05-09-2008, 12:07 AM

Give you all a clue. Orient were one of the teams playing.

telodaja

05-09-2008, 06:09 AM

Ricky Heppolette

big bad John

05-09-2008, 09:17 PM

No, Give you all 'til Tuesday before spilling the beans.

Billy999999999

05-09-2008, 11:20 PM

John Holsgrove ?

big bad John

06-09-2008, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Billy999999999
John Holsgrove ?

A name from the past there Billy, but no it's not John Holsgrove.

Billy999999999

06-09-2008, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by big bad John
A name from the past there Billy, but no it's not John Holsgrove.

i don't think Orient played a game on Sunday between the dates you mentioned.can you check please ?

big bad John

06-09-2008, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by Billy999999999
i don't think Orient played a game on Sunday between the dates you mentioned.can you check please ?

I'll give another clue. It was during an F.A Cup match and it was played in the last week of January 1974

Billy999999999

06-09-2008, 08:23 PM

Bobby Kellard ?

big bad John

06-09-2008, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by Billy999999999
Bobby Kellard ?

good call Billy. Threw a bit of a curve ball with Orient as the clue.
Yes our beloved Bobby Kellard was the first man to be sent off on a Sunday. January 27th 1974 at Fratton Park playing for Pompey against Orient in the fourth round of the F.A cup. The score was 0-0 and after drawing the replay at Orient, Portsmouth knocked them out at Selhurst.

Billy999999999

06-09-2008, 11:27 PM

i was going to say him last night but i thought it was supposed to be a league game !

tony 1947

09-09-2008, 07:44 AM

Another question concerning Bobby Kellard who for what its worth I believe did a great job in helping us stay up 71-72. Perhaps he should have stayed and played all of 72-73?
The question is Bobby played for 3 clubs 1965-66 season who were they?

big bad John

09-09-2008, 01:04 PM

Palace, Ipswich and pompey.

tony 1947

09-09-2008, 05:24 PM

You are of course quite right John, I thought you would know it.

ammiller

11-09-2008, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by arussell
No-one willing to finish the details off then ....?

Today's question:

Who was the first Palace defender to score a hat trick for the club ?

Against who, and when ???

Ian Evans V Colchester 1974-75

Archiebald Leitch

11-09-2008, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by ammiller
Ian Evans V Colchester 1974-75

Werent they all headers?

Ian Hart

12-09-2008, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by Archiebald Leitch
Werent they all headers?

No

telodaja

19-09-2008, 11:04 AM

What "distinction" for Palace do the following have:

McRae, Callender, Beby, Graham

big bad John

20-09-2008, 05:23 PM

all played in goal?

telodaja

21-09-2008, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by big bad John
all played in goal? They did but what makes them different to all the other keepers we have had over the years ?

Little clue, I hope no other Palace keeper ever joins this list.

jjeagle

21-09-2008, 08:13 AM

Didn't they all top themselves?

Psychokiller

21-09-2008, 08:28 AM

Dick Graham is still alive I think.

telodaja

21-09-2008, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by jjeagle
Didn't they all top themselves?

They might have felt like but only Callender did, as PK siad Dick Graham is still alive.

big bad John

21-09-2008, 07:34 PM

All of them let in 6 goals on more than one occasion in the same season?

ian king

21-09-2008, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by big bad John
All of them let in 6 goals ?

Could be more than six!:eek:

Ruskin Old Boy

21-09-2008, 08:56 PM

Were they all Palace players? Don't recall a McRae or a Beby

If it's more than 6 goals conceded ... they conceded double figures (?) in a match involving palace? Graham in the massive defeat at Reading just after WW1. Callender 11 in the Man City cup defeat.

telodaja

22-09-2008, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by Ruskin Old Boy
Were they all Palace players? Don't recall a McRae or a Beby

If it's more than 6 goals conceded ... they conceded double figures (?) in a match involving palace? Graham in the massive defeat at Reading just after WW1. Callender 11 in the Man City cup defeat.

Is the correct answer. It was a bit sneeky adding McRae and Beby to the list. McRae let in 11 against West Ham in a WW1 League game, I'm not sure if he was even a Palace player, might have been a guest player. In the 30's there was an obscure cup competition called the Div 3 South Cup Jack/John Beby let in 11 against Exeter, must have been some game we scored 6 !. Beby was a reserve and he played in a couple of London Cup matches as well, but never in the League or FA Cup. The Reading game was after WW2 Dick Graham's getting on but he's not that old !

tony 1947

30-09-2008, 12:42 PM

Who were the first team Palace played in the league, f.a. cup and league cup in the same season ?.

big bad John

30-09-2008, 05:29 PM

Was it Bristol City in our promotion season of 79? Pretty sure we played them in the League Cup and F.A cup that season but can't remember playing them in the league. They might have been First division at the time.

ElwissAtMemphis

30-09-2008, 06:25 PM

1964/65: Southampton

DIV2 ; (A) ; 07-Nov-64 ; Southampton ; W 1-0 ; 20,161
DIV2 ; (H) ; 20-Mar-65 ; Southampton ; L 0-2 ; 12,737

LC 3 (H) ; 26-Oct-64 ; Southampton W 2-0 ; 11,538

FAC4 ; (A) ; 30-Jan-65 ; Southampton W 2-1 ; 26,398

tony 1947

30-09-2008, 07:04 PM

Your right Elwiss. I remember those games especially the fa cup game when Cliff Holton scored in the first minute. we got to the 6th round before our defeat at home to Leeds.

big bad John

30-09-2008, 08:05 PM

I stand to be corrected on the answer to the following question but it's been nagging at me for a while so I'm sure some of the wise heads can come up with a definite answer.

After he left Palace in 73 how many more times did John Jackson appear in matches at Selhurst Park? Name the matches.

telodaja

30-09-2008, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by big bad John
I stand to be corrected on the answer to the following question but it's been nagging at me for a while so I'm sure some of the wise heads can come up with a definite answer.

After he left Palace in 73 how many more times did John Jackson appear in matches at Selhurst Park? Name the matches.

After a trawl through Rothmans, I reckon 4 competitive matches

for Orient v Palace all League games
3/3/74
15/4/78
30/12/78

for Millwall v Croydon FA Cup 15/12/81

Have a nagging doubt that he played in a testimonial game as well

big bad John

30-09-2008, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by telodaja
After a trawl through Rothmans, I reckon 4 competitive matches

for Orient v Palace all League games
3/3/74
15/4/78
30/12/78

for Millwall v Croydon FA Cup 15/12/81

Have a nagging doubt that he played in a testimonial game as well

That's pretty much what I thought Telodaja. He didn't play in his testimonial match v Chelsea due to injury. The one I'm not sure about and I was at the game was the Orient v Portsmouth F.A cup replay at Selhurst. He would have been with them at the time but I can't remember him playing.

telodaja

01-10-2008, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by big bad John
That's pretty much what I thought Telodaja. He didn't play in his testimonial match v Chelsea due to injury. The one I'm not sure about and I was at the game was the Orient v Portsmouth F.A cup replay at Selhurst. He would have been with them at the time but I can't remember him playing. I forgot about that game, I'll have a look through the Rothmans tonight and let you know.

tony 1947

01-10-2008, 09:18 AM

I was also at the cup replay and confirm that 'Jacko' was in goal.
He was also in goal for Orient in a pre season friendly at Selhurst Park on August 9 1976 Palace won 3-1. Roffey, Queen and Possee also played for Orient.

telodaja

01-10-2008, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by tony 1947
I was also at the cup replay and confirm that 'Jacko' was in goal.
He was also in goal for Orient in a pre season friendly at Selhurst Park on August 9 1976 Palace won 3-1. Roffey, Queen and Possee also played for Orient. Cheers Tony saves another trawl through the Rothmans books. The three of us are turning this thread into our own private quiz. :D How's the leg coming along ?

tony 1947

03-10-2008, 05:12 PM

One more recent question. I think Palace have used 8 on loan goalkeepers in league games. Name them?

Nelson Muntz

03-10-2008, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by tony 1947
One more recent question. I think Palace have used 8 on loan goalkeepers in league games. Name them?
Nico Vaesen
Terry Gennoe
Steve Hardwick
Neil Sullivan
The bloke who played at Huddersfield

Erm....I'll pass

monkey

03-10-2008, 05:25 PM

Thomas Myhre
Ian turner

Ian Hart

03-10-2008, 05:52 PM

Cedric Carasso (might have got the spelling wrong!)

ElwissAtMemphis

03-10-2008, 05:57 PM

Michopoulos & Bobby Mimms

Wasn't that fat French bloke Carasso who only played one half as a substitute on loan too ? In fact, wasn't Berthelin as well ?

Ian Hart

03-10-2008, 06:02 PM

Stuart Taylor and Nik (the Greek) Michopoulous - spelling could be wrong again.

Whoops - that seems to make 9 (plus whoever was the extra one that Nelson had in mind)

Ian Hart

03-10-2008, 06:03 PM

We seemed to be posting at the same time, Elwis!

Nelson Muntz

03-10-2008, 06:18 PM

Bobby Mimms was the one I was thinking of.

CP Satellite

03-10-2008, 06:18 PM

Dean Greygoose and Lawrence Batty come to mind. In fact, I seem to remember Steve Coppell bursting out laughing when anouncing we had Batty on loan from Fulham at Fans Forum. Can't think why.

CP Satellite

03-10-2008, 06:22 PM

And the Aussie 'keeper - Steve Mautone.

Psychokiller

03-10-2008, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by CP Satellite
Dean Greygoose and Lawrence Batty come to mind. In fact, I seem to remember Steve Coppell bursting out laughing when anouncing we had Batty on loan from Fulham at Fans Forum. Can't think why.

Neither played for the first team. Greygoose was our reserve goalkeeper and we swapped him for Crewe's reserve goalkeeper (Brian Parkin) - Crewe were at the foot of the old fourth division at the time.

Psychokiller

03-10-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by Nelson Muntz
Bobby Mimms was the one I was thinking of.

Mimms wasn't on loan, he was without a club and played on non-contract terms.

Psychokiller

03-10-2008, 06:35 PM

Tony, you said "used" rather than "played" - if you're including keepers who sat on the bench for league games then you need to add Paul Heald and Martin Thomas.

tony 1947

03-10-2008, 06:36 PM

205f

Well done. You have named I believe nine who played as I said in league games. I forgot Cedric Carusso. I think Berthelin was signed from Luton and not on loan (I maybe wrong) also I think Steve Mautone was not with another club when he signed for Palace again I may again be wrong. Greygoose and Batty did not play in the league.

Ruskin Old Boy

03-10-2008, 07:16 PM

Yes, Berthelin was signed from Luton. Didn't we sign Mautone from Reading?

tony 1947

03-10-2008, 08:47 PM

You could be right about Mautone. I suppose you are right about Martin Thomas and Paul Heald, where does it stop! Quite interesting about keepers. That German chap Scheuer was a non playing sub 02-03 was he on loan.Thinking about Mimms was he actually with a club when he played?

Ruskin Old Boy

03-10-2008, 08:56 PM

Don't think Mimms was with a club

telodaja

03-10-2008, 09:51 PM

Neil Sullivan

telodaja

03-10-2008, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by telodaja
Neil Sullivan Sorry just seen Nelson mentioned him I'll go back to sleep. Before I do who was our first loan signing ?

Ian Hart

03-10-2008, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by telodaja
Sorry just seen Nelson mentioned him I'll go back to sleep. Before I do who was our first loan signing ?

Are you talking about a keeper, or in any position?

I'll assume you mean any position. In which case I'm pretty sure it was when big Mal signed Wyn Davies?

tony 1947

04-10-2008, 03:33 AM

I believe our first loan signing was Bobby Tambling from Chelsea.
It caused a lot of trouble with other clubs as it was in our first season in the 1st div 69-70. Acceptable now of course but back then in a relegation fight it was not.

Ruskin Old Boy

04-10-2008, 07:26 AM

It was indeed Bobby Tambling; he went back to Chelsea, then we signed him permanently

Ian Hart

04-10-2008, 10:56 AM

I guess I must have been wrong about Wyn Davies then. But it does put me in mind of another question.

In which momentous Palace match did Wyn Davies play?

Nelson Muntz

04-10-2008, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Ian Hart
I guess I must have been wrong about Wyn Davies then. But it does put me in mind of another question.

In which momentous Palace match did Wyn Davies play?
Was he playing for Wrexham in the 4-2?

Ian Hart

04-10-2008, 11:20 AM

Don't think so, Nelson.

Billy999999999

04-10-2008, 12:02 PM

Wyn Davies played for Blackpool against Palace when Andy McBride made his only appearance and Paul Hinshelwood made his debut.

Billy999999999

04-10-2008, 12:13 PM

he also played in a game when Palace beat United 5 - 0

Billy999999999

04-10-2008, 12:35 PM

didn't Palace get relegated that season by the way ?

Ian Hart

04-10-2008, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by Billy999999999
he also played in a game when Palace beat United 5 - 0

Is the right answer - but not for Palace. Remarkably, United (Frank O'Farrell from memory) had believed him to be their type of player and signed him.

Billy999999999

05-10-2008, 12:33 AM

Ron Davies (no relation) of Southampton and Wales fame,also played a few games,all as sub i think,for United.

ian king

05-10-2008, 09:34 AM

Remember Wyn Davies in probably his only home game for us. Suffered a head injury that was bandaged up and, unlike Brolin, the bandage stayed in place!

Ian Hart

05-10-2008, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by ian king
Remember Wyn Davies in probably his only home game for us. Suffered a head injury that was bandaged up and, unlike Brolin, the bandage stayed in place!

Indeed Ian. I recall him getting a standing ovation when he came on with the headband. At a time when even some of our own players seemed less than committed it was a much appreciated that someone who was only to be with us for a few weeks was so prepared to battle.

telodaja

25-10-2008, 04:32 PM

What is "unusual" about all the FA Cup ties we have ever played against Man Utd ?

joe walker

25-10-2008, 04:50 PM

None at home?

telodaja

25-10-2008, 05:27 PM

None at home? Half right

Billy999999999

25-10-2008, 11:03 PM

1.all games were played on neutral grounds
2.Palace never won any of them

Billy999999999

25-10-2008, 11:05 PM

the teams have met 5 times in the league cup as well..........

United won all 5

telodaja

25-10-2008, 11:35 PM

1.all games were played on neutral grounds
2.Palace never won any of them

1 - Correct 2 There's always this year :(

telodaja

25-10-2008, 11:38 PM

the teams have met 5 times in the league cup as well..........

United won all 5

There's always next year :rolleyes:

How sad are we gone midnight on a Saturday night and we are on a website talking about football, young grandads like us should be out clubbing or in bed :S:

Billy999999999

26-10-2008, 03:15 PM

i was up late watching the Cricket.(if you can call it that) better than nothing though !

Neil the Eagle

23-12-2008, 11:35 AM

Here's a bit of Christmas fun for you quiz-heads...

http://www.slp.co.uk/tn/blogdetail.cfm?id=371&bid=67

Sussex Eagle

23-12-2008, 11:46 AM

1) I can think of the 13 below - that german triallist never actually turned out for us did he?
2) Fraser Digby, Matt Gregg, Stuart Taylor, Cedric Carasso, Aleks Kolinko, Nik Michopoulous, Matt Clarke, Cedric Berthelin, Gabor Kiraly, Scott Flinders, Julian Speroni, Nico Vaesen, Thomas Myhre

The rest is looking very difficult unless I start cheating...

Beckenham Boy

23-12-2008, 11:59 AM

AATOT

http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?t=179091

stupalace

23-12-2008, 01:14 PM

Here's a bit of Christmas fun for you quiz-heads...

http://www.slp.co.uk/tn/blogdetail.cfm?id=371&bid=67

ref , first team goalkeepers are you being sneaky and including shaka hislop ?

Neil the Eagle

23-12-2008, 02:52 PM

ref , first team goalkeepers are you being sneaky and including shaka hislop ?

No, Shaka isn't on my list. Just those in recognised compo's not friendlies.

stupalace

23-12-2008, 04:18 PM

moverman

23-12-2008, 09:13 PM

(1) 14
(2) Mautone, Berthelin, Myhre, Carasso, Turner, Kolinko, Taylor, Nicopoulus, Kiraly, Wilkinson, Flahavan, Digby, Vaesen, Flinders
(3) Slavia Prague
(4) Czechoslovakia
(5) Popovic
(6) Hiroshima, Sydney
(7) Clinton
(8) Clinton
(9) James Vaughn
(10) Youngest goalscorer
(11) Paddy McCarthy
(12) 125
(13) Got married
(14) Craig Foster
(15) Razor Ruddock
(16) Crawley 0-6
(17) John Yogi Bear Hughes
(18) Bobby Bowry
(19) 11-11 (elf, elf)
(20) 1-3 Fulham away, New Years day 2005 (sat with Justin at this game)

Suetext

23-12-2008, 09:59 PM

Good effort, Pete.

Damn wrong log-in.

NTE...

Psychokiller

24-12-2008, 07:21 AM

Apart from missing Matt Clarke ;)

Suetext

24-12-2008, 05:20 PM

And Speroni.

Psychokiller

24-12-2008, 05:44 PM

Wrong login again Neil? ;)

Neil the Eagle

25-12-2008, 12:05 AM

Yeah, she hates it when that happens

ElwissAtMemphis

15-02-2009, 06:04 PM

A dull, but but nonetheless, appropriate question in the current circumstances.

Come Tuesday evening when we play at Plymouth, it will be be 17 days since we last played a senior match mid-season. (For the purposes of this question, by "senior" I mean Football League, FA Cup or League Cup fixtures. Transient tournaments like Anglo-Italian / Simod-data-full-sytem-windscreen Cups don't count)

We'll restrict the criteria to post-war matches, but even then the record has been equalled twice in that period.

So while 17 matches (2 and a half weeks without playing) sounds like quite a long time, it's been exceeded more than a few times relatively recently. In fact 8 times. So can anybody remember any of them ? Does anybody care ? Get your anoraks on and get thinking.

telodaja

15-02-2009, 07:05 PM

ElwissAtMemphis

15-02-2009, 08:50 PM

62.63 Season After we played Millwall Boxing Day, we then played 2 games in Jan & Feb, Brighton 12th Jan and Swindon 2 Feb, both away. Next game was 9 March away to Notts County. Next home game was 16th March. Almost 3 months between home games. All because of a bit of snow !

That's the record period without a match. It was 36 days between losing 0-1 at Swindon on Feb 2nd 1963 and a 2-0 win at Notts County on March 9th 1963 (I think, I can't be bothered to check for leap-years). That sounds like one hell of a cold snap.

The "big-freeze" (as it was doubtless called in the popular press) saw Palace play just twice in the period between a 3-0 Boxing Day win at home to Millwall and the above mentioned win at Meadow Lane. That was just one game in 55 days. If they were playing anything like the current rabble, I'm sure our contemporaries propbably appreciated the break.

The next longest is a 28 day just a few years later if that's not too much of a clue (as if anybody really gives a shit)

There are are also four 21 day breaks (one from an already mentioned season) plus a couple of 18 day breaks from as recently as the 80's but I guess that's getting a wee bit desperate. Anyway, do your worst.

big bad John

16-02-2009, 02:08 PM

Remember the season(68-69) when we first got promotion up into the old First div, we lost a game at home to Blackpool in early January and didn't play again until we met Hull sometime in late Feb. The Blackpool game was our last defeat of the season. Vaguely remember us playing either a friendly or a reserve match the week previous to the Hull match and putting out a full strength team.
Might have been that week when match of the day featured the Arsenal v Tottenham reserve match in which the crowd was something like 20,000. Again both reserve teams were made up of first teamers.

ian king

16-02-2009, 11:02 PM

Vaguely remember us playing either a friendly or a reserve match the week previous to the Hull match and putting out a full strength team.

On 15th Feb Palace played Norwich in a Reserve fixture at Selhurst Park.
As both clubs had their Division Two fixtures postponed, (Palace should have been at Derby) the clubs agreed to play their First Teams. I seem to recall that prior notice had been given so there was a reasonable attendance. Palace won 5-1 and two or three pics from this game are found in the 1969-70 Handbook

Ruskin Old Boy

16-02-2009, 11:22 PM

Our promotion 78/79 season (hence the rearranged Burnley match when every other club had completed their fixtures) was severely interrupted. Played Orient at home on December 30th, next match was Millwall at home on January 20th, then another break until Stoke at home on February 10th. Looking at the records it's hard to believe that the only goals we scored in a 7 match run were the ones in the 1-1 draws against Orient and Millwall.

Ian Hart

16-02-2009, 11:28 PM

(Palace should have been at Derby)

I seem to recall this was perhaps the most fortunate postponement ever.

Derby were really flying and of course went on to win the league comfortably. But at the time the game should have been played Palace were in the midst of poor form having won only 1 of our previous 6 matches, and lost 3 of them - this run, coincidentally, having started with a defeat at home to Derby. Had we played the match when we should have done, I have little doubt we would have lost.

But by the time the match was played, three weeks later, we'd started on the run of wins that had restored confidence, and we had a shock 1-0 win at the Baseball Ground which was fully deserved. This was part of "Marvelous March" when during a period of eighteen days we were required to play five matches - and won every single one of them, culminating in the infamous match at home to Millwall (rivals for promotion) which we won 4-2 in front of over 32000 fans.

Ah, those were the days :love:

gold76

17-02-2009, 07:33 AM

As a complete guess I would suggest 91, the last really crap London snowfest? think we had a few p-p's at the time, the forest cup game springs to mind..

Was this one of the right answers?

ElwissAtMemphis

17-02-2009, 07:25 PM

The post-war records are indeed 36 and 28 days, as telodaja and big bad john have correctly identified in 62/63 and then 68/69 between a home 1-2 defeat with Blackpool on 25th Jan and a 2-0 win at home against Hull City on Feb 25th.

There have also been 3, 21-day breaks, none of them mentioned above. Dec 04-Dec 25 1948 (surprised nobody got that). Feb 02-Mar 09 1963, in the same season as the 36 day record which is included in a run of just one match in 56 days. The last one was 67/68 between Jan 25-Feb 22 (2 home matches between Blackpool and Hull)

ian king

19-02-2009, 10:21 PM

and then 68/69 between a home 1-2 defeat with Blackpool on 25th Jan and a 2-0 win at home against Hull City on Feb 25th.

I suppose the eighteen minutes played at Blackburn before abandonment on February 1st doesn't come into this equation:D

telodaja

02-03-2009, 06:32 AM

Here are a few FA Cup brain teasers.

What is the highest number of FA Cup matches played in 1 year ?

Which year was it. ?

Apart from the years the FA Cup was suspended due to WW1 & WW2 in which year did we not play a FA Cup match ?

Palace have played 15 FA Cup matches on 5 neutral grounds. Name the grounds.

The games played on neutral grounds were normally either second & third replays, semi-finals and a glorious final. One however was played on a neutral ground for a reason that would never happen now, what was it ?

Dorking .Eagle

02-03-2009, 07:06 AM

Apart from the years the FA Cup was suspended due to WW1 & WW2 in which year did we not play a FA Cup match ?

The obvious answer you are looking for is 2000 - Our FA Cup 3rd round game that would have ormally been played in Jan 2000 was actually played in Dec 1999 (and we lost away at Cambridge) so we never actually played an FA Cup game in 2000

HOWEVER

1964 also applies!!!!

63/64 - Palace a Division 3 side. Therefore we had to start in Round 1. Palace eliminated in Round2 in December 1963/

64/65 - Palace now a Division 2 side. Therefore we started in Round 3 in January 1965/

So, no FA Cup game for Palace in 1964!

telodaja

02-03-2009, 07:13 AM

The obvious answer you are looking for is 2000 - Our FA Cup 3rd round game that would have ormally been played in Jan 2000 was actually played in Dec 1999 (and we lost away at Cambridge) so we never actually played an FA Cup game in 2000

HOWEVER

1964 also applies!!!!

63/64 - Palace a Division 3 side. Therefore we had to start in Round 1. Palace eliminated in Round2 in December 1963/

64/65 - Palace now a Division 2 side. Therefore we started in Round 3 in January 1965/

So, no FA Cup game for Palace in 1964!

1964 is the correct answer I was looking for. Glad to see you weren't fooled by year/season. I have the Cambridge game as being played on 10th Jan 2000. Why was it played early were there concerns about the Y2K bug :D

Chobham Eagle

02-03-2009, 07:18 AM

Palace have played 15 FA Cup matches on 5 neutral grounds. Name the grounds.

Three of them are:

Wembley (1990 final)
Villa Park (1990 SF and 1995 SF & Replay)
Stamford Bridge (1976 SF and that 2nd replay vs Brighton when Mullery went beserk)

Those are the more obvious 3 of the 5. I'll keep thinking about the rest.

DDD

02-03-2009, 11:31 AM

Didnt we play Sheffield Wednesday on a neutral ground in the early 70's ?

Cant remember where though....Somewhere like Huddersfield but not 100%

telodaja

02-03-2009, 11:46 AM

Didnt we play Sheffield Wednesday on a neutral ground in the early 70's ?

Cant remember where though....Somewhere like Huddersfield but not 100%

We did play Wednesday it was at Villa Park

Nelson Muntz

02-03-2009, 11:58 AM

We played Villa at Highfield Road, Coventry.

telodaja

02-03-2009, 12:22 PM

We played Villa at Highfield Road, Coventry.

In the League Cup

DDD

02-03-2009, 12:35 PM

We did play Wednesday it was at Villa Park

Thanks

I am sure we played someone at Huddersfield as a neutral as well though but half the time I cant remember what I had for dinner these days :) so could be wrong

ElwissAtMemphis

02-03-2009, 12:56 PM

1980/81, our 3rd Round, 2nd replay against Swansea was played at Ninian Park. I bit more neutral for us than them really.

Nelson Muntz

02-03-2009, 01:17 PM

In the League CupOK clever clogs!

Neil the Eagle

02-03-2009, 01:24 PM

Thanks

I am sure we played someone at Huddersfield as a neutral as well though but half the time I cant remember what I had for dinner these days :) so could be wrong

Not quite the same...

We played Leeds there in a League game when there ground was closed briefly for crowd trub.

Neil the Eagle

02-03-2009, 01:25 PM

I've got a feeling the last one is Craven Cottage... just after the war.

DDD

02-03-2009, 01:26 PM

Not quite the same...

We played Leeds there in a League game when there ground was closed briefly for crowd trub.

Aha so not as senile as I thought, wrong but not senile is about the best I get these days. Ta NTE...:p

ElwissAtMemphis

02-03-2009, 02:30 PM

What is the highest number of FA Cup matches played in 1 year ?

Which year was it. ?

The obvious guess that springs to mind is 1976. I've no idea whether that's correct though.
We played 9 FA Cup matches that year.

Scarborough (A), Jan-03, 3
Leeds United (A), Jan-24, 4
Chelsea (A), Feb-14, 5
Sunderland (A), Mar-06, 6
Southampton (N), Apr-03, SF
Brighton & Hove Albion (A), Nov-20, 1
Brighton & Hove Albion (H), Nov-23, 1R
Brighton & Hove Albion (N), Dec-06, 1Rii
Enfield (H), Dec-11, 2

telodaja

02-03-2009, 03:31 PM

The obvious guess that springs to mind is 1976. I've no idea whether that's correct though.
We played 9 FA Cup matches that year.

Scarborough (A), Jan-03, 3
Leeds United (A), Jan-24, 4
Chelsea (A), Feb-14, 5
Sunderland (A), Mar-06, 6
Southampton (N), Apr-03, SF
Brighton & Hove Albion (A), Nov-20, 1
Brighton & Hove Albion (H), Nov-23, 1R
Brighton & Hove Albion (N), Dec-06, 1Rii
Enfield (H), Dec-11, 2

Well done Mike

telodaja

02-03-2009, 03:33 PM

I've got a feeling the last one is Craven Cottage... just after the war.
Not quite that long ago, though there will not be many on here who would have gone. Like the Swansea game at Ninian Park we had further to travel than the opponents.

telodaja

02-03-2009, 03:36 PM

Ok apart from the one missing neutral ground.

Bit of help on the last question nobody has attempted. It was our home match against Rotherham County in 1906. why was it played at Stamford Bridge ?

Who Cares?

02-03-2009, 03:42 PM

telodaja

02-03-2009, 04:09 PM

Palace have played 15 FA Cup matches on 5 neutral grounds. Name the grounds:

Pretty sure we played Shrewsbury in about 1958 in a 2nd replay, poss Villa Park but I don't think it was, but maybe West Brom? Coventry? Wolves?

Wherever it was I wasn't there!!

That's the game, it was played at Molineux.

All that leaves is the reason for playing Rotherham at Stamford Bridge in 1906 Fraid you will have to wait till tomorrow for the answer as my home internet connection is f***** at the moment.

ElwissAtMemphis

02-03-2009, 05:13 PM

All that leaves is the reason for playing Rotherham at Stamford Bridge in 1906 Fraid you will have to wait till tomorrow for the answer as my home internet connection is f***** at the moment.

My guess would be that it had something to do with The Final being played at Crystal Palace because it was considered unfair for us to play our home FA Cup matches there. Maybe they thought that it would compromise the ground's 'neutrality' in the unlikely event of us reaching the final.

It doesn't really make much sense if you think about it because, presumably, we were playing our league games there anyway but that's the first thing that comes to mind.

telodaja

03-03-2009, 06:25 AM

Elwiss, you were on the right lines thinking it had something to do with the Crystal Palace Grounds. On the date the game against Rotherham was due to be played the ground had already been booked by the English Rugby Union to play a Rugby International against New Zealand. Not sure but I think it may have been the all-blacks first ever game in England.

Dorking .Eagle

03-03-2009, 06:52 AM

1964 is the correct answer I was looking for. Glad to see you weren't fooled by year/season. I have the Cambridge game as being played on 10th Jan 2000. Why was it played early were there concerns about the Y2K bug :D

The 1999/2000 FA Cup 3rd Round away game against Cambridge was played on Friday 10th December 1999.......the whole 3rd Round was brought forward a month. We lost, so we didn't play an FA Cup game at all in 2000.

I can't remember the exact reason why, but have a suspicion it was something to do with Man United being at the World Club Cup in Brazil for 3 weeks, and the FA moving all the fixture dates around to try and accommodate the FA Cup around them (although in the end they declined to enter anyway)

Chobham Eagle

03-03-2009, 06:54 AM

The 1999/2000 FA Cup 3rd Round away game against Cambridge was played on Friday 10th December 1999.......the whole 3rd Round was brought forward a month. We lost, so we didn't play an FA Cup game at all in 2000.

I can't remember the exact reason why, but have a suspicion it was something to do with Man United being at the World Club Cup in Brazil for 3 weeks, and the FA moving all the fixture dates around to try and accommodate the FA Cup around them (although in the end they declined to enter anyway)

Did it have something to do with Euro 2000 taking place at the end of the season?

telodaja

03-03-2009, 07:19 AM

The 1999/2000 FA Cup 3rd Round away game against Cambridge was played on Friday 10th December 1999.......the whole 3rd Round was brought forward a month. We lost, so we didn't play an FA Cup game at all in 2000.

I can't remember the exact reason why, but have a suspicion it was something to do with Man United being at the World Club Cup in Brazil for 3 weeks, and the FA moving all the fixture dates around to try and accommodate the FA Cup around them (although in the end they declined to enter anyway)

Cheers Dorking I'll change my records. Have to admit I remember Man U dropping out but had forgotten the other games were moved. Strange I can remember stuff from the 60's without blinking but recent stuff is a blur. Probably the start of senility.

ian king

05-03-2009, 01:37 PM

I can't remember the exact reason why, but have a suspicion it was something to do with Man United being at the World Club Cup in Brazil for 3 weeks, and the FA moving all the fixture dates around to try and accommodate the FA Cup around them (although in the end they declined to enter anyway)

It was all to do with England's bid to host the World Cup in 2006, coupled with Man U's involvement in the Club World Championship.

In a nutshell it was FIFA's first World Club Championship (to be held in Brazil in January 2000) and the FA's view was that how could they ask FIFA for the right to host the World Cup and then refuse to take part in FIFA's new competition.

It had become a public row involving the government back in June 1999 and then Man Utd said they would withdraw from the F.A. Cup.

Apparently the decision to move the date of the Third Round (and the first two) was taken AFTER Man U had opted out of the competition.

This and the news that the 2000 FA Cup would be the last at the old Wembley damaged the reputastion of the FA Cup irrevocably.

The row rumbled on with everyone passing the buck (as ever!)