View Full Version : Kevin Keegan & Euro 2000 Predictions
Dillenger
23-05-2000, 07:54 PM
Not being that enthusastic about Engerland, or international football in general, i'm probably not best qualified to judge them.
One thing i do know is that Kevin Keegan is not a good enough manager at this level. The guy's a muppet. He'd make a good assistant manager, but when it comes to tactics he's only marginally superior to Barry 'the brain' Fry.
Ever noticed how when a team of his loses he never has an answer to why. Englands performance against Scotland (at Wembely) was a prime example. He's thick. End of story.
Anyway, I reckon England will play sub-standard, but scrape into the next round, only to be overcome by a tacticly superior side.
On the way Shearer'll score a penalty or two and the papers will go on about their 'Tommy spirit' and backs to the wall bulldog mentality.
But they'll still be losers.
Payney
23-05-2000, 08:28 PM
Don't even see England getting though the group stages,Portugal will give us a lesson and it will go down hill from there.
Steve M
23-05-2000, 08:50 PM
I've really lost my interest in international football a bit these days. I'd be surprised if we got past the group stage. I have to say that part of me would be quite pleased if we went out early just because of the more stone-age element of our support.
Dodger
23-05-2000, 09:02 PM
It will be classic England style. We'll scrape through the group, put on some great performances to get through to the quarter/semi final and then go out on penalties.
Keegan will be unable to explain how we lost.
Snorwood Eagle
23-05-2000, 09:03 PM
I think England will progress to at least the quarters, IF they can overcome their group matches. People seem to be so very confident that England will be somewhat of a force in the Championships, but the real test will be whether they can beat Portugal. The Germans are beatable and predictable in style, so we should be able to at least match them. The Romania game will be similar to the World Cup game in 1998, but hopefully Keegan won't make the mistake of playing that Le Saux at the back, when he clearly can't defend! The Protugese are still an unknown quantity, though the attacking players they possess are definately world-class, much will rely on their defensive qualities.
Though I hope England progress to their potential, and think Keegan is a good Manager, the group stages will either make or break the side.
Benny B Block
23-05-2000, 09:11 PM
I agree that Keegan is a muppet of a manager, but so is Venables (am I allowed to say that word)and he managed to do ok for England.
I say semi's and predictably lose on penalties.
Dai the Swansea Eagle
23-05-2000, 10:04 PM
Keegan is a superior motivator to Venables and I believe a better manager presently. OK he's not great but is there a top rate alternative (if Fergusson were to be manager I would give up any interest in international football until he went).
England fall a long way behind Palace in my interest stakes but I enjoy watching England games in a pub down here as there is usually a good atmosphere - particularly during championships.
We'll make it through the group phase and then go out on penalties. Oh and we'll eke out a dismal 0-0 draw in our opening game.
Dillenger
24-05-2000, 01:34 AM
I'm bound to get slated for this (I always do when I bring it up), but there is only one man who should be England manager... George Graham.
Yeah, I KNOW he's Scottish, but the fact that he's managing Spurs speaks for itself.
Also, i reckon he's more a Londoner than anything else these days. Think about it, he's been here since his playing days at Chelsea (mid 60's), and stated a move back to the Capital as his main reason for leaving Yorkshire (can't say I blame him).
Obviousley, the Tabloids wouldn't have it, nor would the Engerland OI OI mob. Which would make it all the better in my opinion.
Fergusson couldn't do it cos he's full-on Scottish. Graham is far more pragmatic and would see it as a challenge.
End of the day, a GG side would slaughter a KK side (nice initials).
You know it makes sense.
Originally posted by Dillenger on 05-23-2000 09:34 PM
Fergusson couldn't do it cos he's full-on Scottish.
No, Ferguson couldn't do it because he's a ****
PeterH
24-05-2000, 02:44 PM
Dai, surely they must be hoping for England to lose in Swansea or is that why the atmo. is great when the team invariably capitulate. By the way has the city got a buzz on from the recent promotion. I bet they also loved it that Cardiff got relegated.
Dai the Swansea Eagle
24-05-2000, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by PeterH on 05-24-2000 10:44 AM
Dai, surely they must be hoping for England to lose in Swansea
Indeed they do! It's usually a good mix of English and Welsh where I tend to watch the games - one or two guys get a bit heated but I've not had any hassle (except after celebrating Paul Bodin's penalty miss v Romania which knocked Wales out of the 94 World Cup - self inflicted & in hindsight not a clever move). During Euro 96 some local lads even wore kilts to watch the England Scotland game which was taking things a bit far! Certainly the Welsh will vigorously support whoever England are playing (unless it's Germany for some reason!). Me, like many other exiles, I'm pleased when Wales do well at either football or rugby as it gives the place a lift which has to be seen to be believed.
By the way has the city got a buzz on from the recent promotion. I bet they also loved it that Cardiff got relegated.
All tempered by the death of the fan at Rotherham unfortunately. Sickest part of all was apparently a few minutes before he was killed he was chatting to the horseback policemen and feeding the horses.
Yes, people are pleased about Cardiff being relegated, not least the roz - it will save them a fortune. As an interesting aside - Swansea City have had a collection fund for the family of the guy who was killed - according to the local news half the money raised so far has come from Cardiff City fans.
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Gooders
24-05-2000, 07:08 PM
Can't see us progressing beyond the group unless Keegan does a Gullit and lets Shearer know that he's not an automatic choice anymore.
Where are the goals going to come from?
Matty
26-05-2000, 02:04 PM
I have a feeling that it will go the same way as normal - we are so scared of losing the first match (Portugal) that we only draw and that sets the scene for the rest of the competition. Even if we do get to the next round we've only done so by grinding it out and can never lift the quality. And the sad thing is, I think our group probably isn't as strong as the names of the teams in it might suggest.
I'd have been happier in the world cup to have gone out like Spain, losing adventurously in the best game of the tournament against Nigeria, but exiting with a huge (6-1?) thrashing of Bulgaria.
I much prefer those international tournaments where England fail to qulaify so I can enjoy the rest of the football. Sorry.
Dillenger
26-05-2000, 03:51 PM
So come on then, who's going to win it ?
Ladbrokes make Holland 4-1, England 10-1, Germany 10-1, Portugal either 12 or 14-1, Spain 8-1, France 6-1, and where my money will go is Czecks at 16-1.
Any tips ?
John 24
27-05-2000, 02:26 AM
What's happened to optimism, I personally am full of it (being a Palace fan I suppose you have to be). England are gonna win Euro 2000 with goals coming in from all angles with Shearer and Phillips up front.
Portugal will trash us, at least technically. We'll scrape draws with the the Germans and Romania and bow out at the first stage. We may have some good players but Keegan does not have us playing as a unit. Plus we are lacking quality in depth, and have too many old players there. Seaman, Adams, Keown,Ince should all not be there. Martyn, Ferdinand and other younger players should be given a chance. After all, the Euros should be there as a learning experience for the real thing - the World Cup in 2002. Anyway Spain will beat France in the Final.
John 24
31-05-2000, 03:39 AM
Are you joking, France are worse than us at the moment!!! Anyway we did alright against Brazil.
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