Betting Thread ? [Archive]

Plugster

24-11-2002, 12:05 PM

Ozeagle, I love my football betting, and specialise in backing teams away from home.

I use to do my conkers each week on the horses, but since the start of the football season I haven't backed a horse, and never will again.

I live in a town which only has a Corals. Yes, the only bookies who wouldn't take bets on singles in all divisions as from the start of the season. So me and a few mates have boycotted them, and opened up several on-line and telephone accounts. By far the best one is Betfair. Now if you are a serious punter you will be aware that this will be the future of betting in this country. On average, on football bets alone, you get a 20% better book. Another huge advantage is that you can lay teams. If you have the funds, and the know how, and big conkers, you can make alot of money.

I'm about £230 up so far this season, most of which was on Betfair.

I backed Wigan yesterday, but only got on at 2.75, I was after some 2.8 and 2.85 as well.

I do like the look of Blackburn today. There record at Charlton has been good of late, and if you can play at odds of 7/4 or better, I suggest you play.

LLCOOLSTEVE

24-11-2002, 10:40 PM

Dunno how about football betting but i had a £2 accumulator on 10 Basketball games a couple of weeks ago, 9 came in, if the 10th had of id have won £1500 :grrr:

ozeagle

24-11-2002, 10:49 PM

no good mate,
i back home teams.
see you on here for wednesday's tips.
betfair is the betting exchange, right, can't use it without a UK bank account.
:D

ozeagle

24-11-2002, 10:51 PM

i've had a bet tonight in mexico,
san luis to win
necaxa to win

san luis 1 up,
necaxa drawing with 10 to go, come on GET THAT WINNER !!

freekickuk

24-11-2002, 10:56 PM

had a little win on the football this week
25p line got 9 out of ten the right and the tenth was called 0ff
won £16.50

ozeagle

24-11-2002, 11:30 PM

necaxa with a late winner !!!!!!
you beauty !
:p

LLCOOLSTEVE

26-11-2002, 03:49 PM

Accumulator for tonight....£1 bet......on 9 results.

Plugster

27-11-2002, 03:17 PM

Two fancies tonight. Valencia at odds of 1.6 (8/13) or better. Notts Forrest at 1.6 (8/13) or better.

Plugster

01-12-2002, 04:14 PM

After a few knockbacks in the past week (backing Blackburn, Forest on the hanicap on wednesday, and Valencia), I've hit the bookies this weekend. Backed Forest, layed Coventry, backed Preston, and also backed Newcastle. Nice.

Belly

01-12-2002, 04:23 PM

I copied the bloke in the sun 8 out of 8 paid 35/1,I even left celtic out god knows why.Last week same bloke got 10 out of 11(f@cking Raith).

Sorry to have to say this, if your looking for a good price this week, any price over 3/1, you've got to lump it on oldham.

BLAGATICKET

01-12-2002, 04:43 PM

GOOD PRICE OVER 3/1? WHAT ALL THAT ABOUT? THE ONLY GOOD PRICE IS A WINNING PRICE,BOOKIES DONT DEAL IN VALUE BETS ONLY MUG BETS!

Latvian

01-12-2002, 06:19 PM

Just ask OzEagle!

ozeagle

01-12-2002, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Plugster
After a few knockbacks in the past week (backing Blackburn, Forest on the hanicap on wednesday, and Valencia), I've hit the bookies this weekend. Backed Forest, layed Coventry, backed Preston, and also backed Newcastle. Nice.

mate, you need to post tips prior to the game, not give it large after.

for your info, i had a little dabble on
arse v villa
chel v sund
scum v bradford

as latvian and malakite will attest, - they got a free dinner out of it.

also scraped in on manu v pool over 2 goals today.

I'll start a new thread - Football Punting.

:hmph:

by the way, got Depo going for a result tonight.

Latvian

01-12-2002, 07:35 PM

Millwall one.....

Bradford didnt.

Oxo Dominos

ozeagle

06-12-2002, 01:09 PM

am i the only one out there that think bristol city could not possibly lose to harrowgate railway..
i reckon couple them up with cardiff to knock off margate, double your money, and some....

they're my two specials for the weekend.

also like spurs to trounce west brom, and Arsenal at 3-1 to beat Man U half time /full time...

plugster ?

:eek:

Plugster

06-12-2002, 03:25 PM

MAXIMUM WAGER ALERT !

Been searching high and low for some value bets this weekend, and I think i've found a couple.

Bolton V Blackburn
Blackburn are just about to turn the corner. The arrival of Hakan Sukur seems to have bucked up the idea's of Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke. They are a good bet to win the game out-right, but the 5/1, minus a goal on the handicap, seems to me to be a silly price. I've been trying to get on at 2.85, 2.9, and 3.0 on Betfair on a staright match bet, but i'm not too confident i'll be able to. I did ask for it last Sunday, but no joy.

Crewe V Mansfield
The second bet this weekend, is again on the handicap. Mansfield have leaked over 50 goals in the league this season. Even Adebola could score against them ! Crewe have played them twice this season at Field Mill, and have won 4-0 and 5-0. Rob Hulse is one of the leagues top scorers, and with Dean Ashton coming into a bit of form, they are a good wager. Get on Crewe, minus a goal, at 11/10.

Another bet you should look at this weekend, in a Lucky 15 maybe. Cardiff, Crewe, Blackburn, and Middlesbrough.

The odds for my naps are both available with Totalbet.

ozeagle

06-12-2002, 03:31 PM

don't like the -1 goals...i from the opo usually kills you.
saying that i think brisol city will win 5 or 6-1...

Plugster

08-12-2002, 07:42 AM

Ozeagle. The Racing Post tip Bristol City to beat Harrowgate Railways 4-0 or 5-0. Another option would be the handicap. I know your not a great fan of this, but you can get even money, Bristol City minus one gaol. Go to the totalbet website.

ozeagle

08-12-2002, 12:27 PM

plugster,
good work with Crewe, although Blackburn oxo..
nice little earner for me at the 2.2 on the cardiff, bristol city double, had plenty on as well.
couldn't stop myself unloading at the 1.55 ht ft either,
look forward to your views next week.
:p

ozeagle

08-12-2002, 05:28 PM

just topped off another good weekend, see you all next week..

:p

ozeagle

09-12-2002, 06:13 PM

Man City look a lock, best away form in the league at present (3 matches)....Plugster ?

Skin Up

09-12-2002, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
Man City look a lock, best away form in the league at present (3 matches)....Plugster ?

The've lost 5 out of eight away in the leauge, whilst Sunderland have only won 2 out of 7 at home.

Draw definatly.

ozeagle

09-12-2002, 07:57 PM

1 up HT !
oxo Skin Up...

Malakite

09-12-2002, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by Latvian
Millwall one.....

Bradford didnt.

Oxo Dominos
HEHE that was quality wasnt it?!:cool:

Skin Up

09-12-2002, 08:38 PM

The 1st goal never should have stood, the City fella had his boot too high, dangerous play that is.

Malakite

09-12-2002, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
1 up HT !
oxo Skin Up...
OXO SKIN UP, 2-0 Man City! hehe...cant believe I didnt get home in time from work to put a little flutter on this..KNEW Man City would win :grrr:

ozeagle

09-12-2002, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by Skin Up
The've lost 5 out of eight away in the leauge, whilst Sunderland have only won 2 out of 7 at home.

Draw definatly.

5 out of 8 maybe, but not their last 3.

2 up now. i'll get in the queue.

:p

Skin Up

09-12-2002, 08:44 PM

As I said Citys 1st goal should not have been allowed, therefore morally it's still 0-0 as no one knows if City would have scored a second if the first had been disallowed as it should have been.

Malakite

09-12-2002, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
5 out of 8 maybe, but not their last 3.

2 up now. i'll get in the queue.

:p

Poso poostiss?

ozeagle

09-12-2002, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by Skin Up
As I said Citys 1st goal should not have been allowed, therefore morally it's still 0-0 as no one knows if City would have scored a second if the first had been disallowed as it should have been.

oxo !
play to the REF's whistle...
you might get that tenner back now !
:eek:

Malakite

09-12-2002, 08:51 PM

OXO Sunderland OXO Wilkinson, thats 3 zip now!..feed the poostis and he will score :D

Skin Up

09-12-2002, 08:51 PM

Howard Wilkinson you let me down.

Nice to see 'the most loyal fans in the world ever' are leaving early in their droves, the stadium of light looks like a Wimbledon home match now.

ozeagle

09-12-2002, 08:57 PM

i think we can safely pencil in sunderland as going down with west brom..

:D

Malakite

09-12-2002, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by Skin Up
Howard Wilkinson you let me down.

Nice to see 'the most loyal fans in the world ever' are leaving early in their droves, the stadium of light looks like a Wimbledon home match now. You been watching it then?

Malakite

09-12-2002, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
i think we can safely pencil in sunderland as going down with west brom..

:D

lets hope so! OXO boys!

Malakite

09-12-2002, 09:10 PM

CLINKER POOSTISS! I DID stick a bet on!!..forgot about it! YIPEE! look:

No. of win lines: 1
No .of lose lines: 0
No. of void lines: 0
Returns: £2.75
Refund: £0.00
Settle Info:

£1.75 profit for me! :) :p

ozeagle

09-12-2002, 09:17 PM

should be 2 zero's on the end of that..

hong_kong_hg

09-12-2002, 09:25 PM

What 1.7500? ;)

hong_kong_hg

09-12-2002, 09:27 PM

Plugster

10-12-2002, 10:53 AM

Like the look of Valencia tonight. Especially with Pablo Aimar coming back into the team. Trying to get some 4.0 on Betfair.

Looking ahead to the weekend, Blackburn away to Everton. Trying to get some 4.2, which looks massive. The real bet is to try and lay Everton at anything better than 2.2.

My old favourite comes into play again this weekend. I'm looking to back Blackpool away to Mansfield. Looking for 2.8, which I would say is very unlikely.

The real teaser is Newcastle away to Southampton. Newcastle are trading at 3.2 not long ago. There are some pro's and con's with this. Newcastle don't have a very good record away to the Saints, and were losing in the first two minutes a month ago in the reverse fixture. Questions have to be asked about there ability to get results along way from home. Remenber the poor losing run they went on when playing in London. The one big positive is that Alan Shearer and Craig Bellamy will both come out all guns blazing after not playing in the Champions League game. It's a game that needs some careful research.

Dave

10-12-2002, 01:06 PM

I'm off to Highbury tonight - fancy a small wager of Valencia -

ozeagle

10-12-2002, 03:41 PM

i too like Valencia, but not enough to wager, apparently they have players out as well.

this weekend: get around 6-1 this 4 pick

man U re over west ham
brentford over chesterfield
hull over darlington
chester over leigh rmi....

really like it too

:p

Plugster

10-12-2002, 04:02 PM

Also got a bit stuck into Crewe, and Cardiff tonight. Man Utd May be worth a wager tomorrow, but lets get tonight out the way first.

ozeagle

10-12-2002, 10:43 PM

mate, you're letting the side down right now
crewe 8-0, ok, but arsenal and cardiff oxo.
bournemouth, quality at home.
man u and depo over 3+ goals, cert. giddy up !!

Plugster

11-12-2002, 09:01 AM

I'm just not in any form at the moment, and I suppose I should be keeping my powder dry. Still showing a profit for the season. Backed Man Utd tonight, so avoid them, and get on Depor !

johanncryuff

11-12-2002, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by Plugster
Like the look of Valencia tonight. Especially with Pablo Aimar coming back into the team. Trying to get some 4.0 on Betfair.

Looking ahead to the weekend, Blackburn away to Everton. Trying to get some 4.2, which looks massive. The real bet is to try and lay Everton at anything better than 2.2.

My old favourite comes into play again this weekend. I'm looking to back Blackpool away to Mansfield. Looking for 2.8, which I would say is very unlikely.

The real teaser is Newcastle away to Southampton. Newcastle are trading at 3.2 not long ago. There are some pro's and con's with this. Newcastle don't have a very good record away to the Saints, and were losing in the first two minutes a month ago in the reverse fixture. Questions have to be asked about there ability to get results along way from home. Remenber the poor losing run they went on when playing in London. The one big positive is that Alan Shearer and Craig Bellamy will both come out all guns blazing after not playing in the Champions League game. It's a game that needs some careful research.

Do you post on the Betfair chatroom?? Or just read it before posting here;)

Plugster

11-12-2002, 12:11 PM

Did you see the name Plugster on the Betfair chatroom ? I don't think so. What are you trying to say ?

ozeagle

11-12-2002, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by Plugster
I'm just not in any form at the moment, and I suppose I should be keeping my powder dry. Still showing a profit for the season. Backed Man Utd tonight, so avoid them, and get on Depor !

no Depo, just back the 3 goals or more option....2-2 draw for mine, Roy Makaay all class.

:eek:

johanncryuff

11-12-2002, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Plugster
Did you see the name Plugster on the Betfair chatroom ? I don't think so. What are you trying to say ?

I may be doing you a disservice, but your views are a collection of other posts on there over the past couple of days.
I was merely asking the question - have you got a guilty conscience:angel:

Plugster

11-12-2002, 05:58 PM

What do you mean, have I got a guilty conscience ? Just very very bored as I am not working again until 2-1-02. Got nothing but punting on my mind. Besides, I have never seen the point of letting people know, on the betfair website, what you think may be a good price for a certain event. It would be rather silly don't you think. Oh bugger, did a really write that last sentance: :o :eek:

Plugster

12-12-2002, 09:09 AM

Hooray. Is my luck on the turn. Got a few good prices on Man Utd last night. Backed them at 1.92, 1.94, 1.96, and 1.98. This equates to odds of 19/20.

Already looked at Blackpool and Blackbur this weekend. Just seen the weekend prices on smartbet, and feel that I should be asking for bigger prices. Done a bit more research. Trying to get some 2.25 on Forest, and Rotherham may be worth a bet as well.

ozeagle

12-12-2002, 09:12 AM

with man u, i haven't had a bet since the weekend, (believe it or not)..
as noted mine are:

man U re over west ham
brentford over chesterfield
hull over darlington
chester over leigh rmi....
and i'm confident, will watch your with interest.

ozeagle

12-12-2002, 09:13 AM

plugster; do you bet on tennis ?
by far the best betting sport.
i love it.
:p

Sick Bucket

12-12-2002, 09:34 AM

I tried to start a thread along these lines 6 months ago but it just fell off the BBS never to be seen again. Anyway yeah I have a couple of little flutters every week. Years of having my fingers/wallet burnt has led me to a very obvious but safe system, basically I look for deadcerts, usually I put one British 5 team yankie together and one rest of Europe yankie, I find some of the smaller leagues like Belguim, Holland,Scotland etc are easier to predict. Club Brugge, Ajax, Rangers etc at home are as near to deadcerts as you can get. Usually I get 4 out of 5 which gets me my money back at least. Not particularly brilliant I know but I've been trying this method since the beginning of the season and im actually £20 up, mickey mouse money I know but at least im up.
I look at football-punter.co.uk, gooonersguide.co. uk and bethelp.com which are all excellent.

Plugster

12-12-2002, 04:23 PM

I am fond of a punt on tennis, although it would mainly revolve around Wimbledon. I do have a strong fancy for the mens title next year. Roger Federer. Won the junior title a few years back, is still young, likes the grass (although his record suggests maybe not), and best of all, he was playing some excellent tennis at the end of the tour. He was coming back to his very best form.

I backed Danialls Hantuchova and Taylor Dent at Wimbledon this year and had quite a good run for my money. I did actually go on middle Saturday and saw Hantuchova in the flesh. What a women. I also saw Kournikova, but she was really put in the shade by Hantuchova. She was simply stunning.

Taylor Dent is a very very good grass court player. Unfortunately he is quite raw and erratic. On his day, on grass he could beat anybody, no matter who they are or how well they are playing. Definately have him on your side in single match betting.

Plugster

12-12-2002, 04:30 PM

Long term markets.

So far on this thread, there has been alot of tipping for up and coming matches. Has anybody had some long term bets, maybe at the start of the season ? I'm on to one loser already. Birmingham to finish above Everton. Although, I also had abet with the same person that Clinton Morrison would outscore Jermaine Defoe in the Premioership with a four goal start.

My one and only ante post with a bookmaker (my last bet with Coral), was Brighton to be relegated and Man Utd to win the Champions League. One double and two singles, and I couldn't be happier at the moment. I really can only see either Man Utd, Juventus, and Valencia winning it. Man Utd are my favourites. If I had massive conkers, i'd love to lay Real Madrid and Arsenal. Got Brighton at 7/2, and Man Utd at a massive 8/1.

ozeagle

13-12-2002, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by Plugster
I am fond of a punt on tennis, although it would mainly revolve around Wimbledon. I do have a strong fancy for the mens title next year. Roger Federer. Won the junior title a few years back, is still young, likes the grass (although his record suggests maybe not), and best of all, he was playing some excellent tennis at the end of the tour. He was coming back to his very best form.

I backed Danialls Hantuchova and Taylor Dent at Wimbledon this year and had quite a good run for my money. I did actually go on middle Saturday and saw Hantuchova in the flesh. What a women. I also saw Kournikova, but she was really put in the shade by Hantuchova. She was simply stunning.

Taylor Dent is a very very good grass court player. Unfortunately he is quite raw and erratic. On his day, on grass he could beat anybody, no matter who they are or how well they are playing. Definately have him on your side in single match betting.

Plugster, give up betting on tennis,

Dent is a hack, the only good thing about him is his Oz dad, Phil. Dent has a big serve, and that's it. Hantuchova is quality and could be one to challenge the Williams sisters.

Federer has a heart like a pea, give up on him, he was smashed in the 1st round by M Ancic this year, and following him overall will mean taking under the odds forever.

Follow a man like Paradorn Srichaphan, this year got on him when he was 81 in the world, now 17..headed for top 5 next year, mark my words.

I won an absolute fortune on the bloke.

:p

ozeagle

13-12-2002, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Plugster
Long term markets.

So far on this thread, there has been alot of tipping for up and coming matches. Has anybody had some long term bets, maybe at the start of the season ? I'm on to one loser already. Birmingham to finish above Everton. Although, I also had abet with the same person that Clinton Morrison would outscore Jermaine Defoe in the Premioership with a four goal start.

My one and only ante post with a bookmaker (my last bet with Coral), was Brighton to be relegated and Man Utd to win the Champions League. One double and two singles, and I couldn't be happier at the moment. I really can only see either Man Utd, Juventus, and Valencia winning it. Man Utd are my favourites. If I had massive conkers, i'd love to lay Real Madrid and Arsenal. Got Brighton at 7/2, and Man Utd at a massive 8/1.

Yes, Man U, good chance, Brighton may well get out of it, don't like long term my self, want that instant cash back.

Although saying that, I may have a few £ on Chelsea to win the W Cup....9/2 what a price. Man U aren't interested in it, and Chelsea need a certain way to get into Europe, this is it...expect a 3-1 win at Old Trafford next week. Then, watch the price tumble to Evens.

Don't ask me what I'll do if we play them in the final

Plugster

14-12-2002, 09:19 AM

I am just going to do a double on Forest (1/1) and Blackpool (7/5) with Chandler. Don't want to push my luck with Blackburn as they have let me down alot this season. They are a tough team to bet on as they are quite inconsistent, much like Chelsea use to be ( and will prove to still be).

ozeagle

14-12-2002, 10:42 AM

i was going to say, what is this love for blackburn, they are no good.

done the form. i think the best bet all day is peterhead to beat montrose in div 3 scotland !

:p

Plugster

15-12-2002, 10:10 AM

So, ever since this thread has benn started my luck has gone down hill, fast. Done the bet yesterday, and done my conkers. I can't remember the last time I got both results of a double 100% wrong.

I went to Walkabouts in Croydon after the game, and got there just before the Cardiff v Bristol game. I said to my mate "Shall I have a tenner on Bristol to get my money back ?". The answer was, "No". Bo**ocks !

Oh, and just to rub it in. My so called mate had a fiver on Adebola/2-0 at 35/1. So I was rather annoyed, but at least we won.

ozeagle

15-12-2002, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
i was going to say, what is this love for blackburn, they are no good.

done the form. i think the best bet all day is peterhead to beat montrose in div 3 scotland !

:p

HT peterhead 0 montrose 2
FT peterhead 4 montrose 2...

hull let me down badly...grr.

but still, 4 from 5 aint bad..man u, brentford, chester, perterhead...

saw the hull highlights, cannot believe what i saw !!
:sob:

Papster

16-12-2002, 05:32 PM

Although I try and leave palace out of my bets, I think tommy black is a good first scorer bet at 12/1 with bluesq, especially if adebolas injured. Not too confident of any other midweek games, and am struggling for a bet. Not a lot I fancy at the mo, any tips?

ozeagle

17-12-2002, 02:00 PM

of the week;

Rochdale to beat Bristol Rovers

Rovers have lost their past 6, scoring 1 and conceding 11..Rochdale of recent years have been strong in this Div, and are coming off Sat's 4-0 hiding of league leaders Hartlepool.

expect 3 or 4-0

take the 1.70 and have plenty on.

:p

Plugster

17-12-2002, 03:00 PM

Surely Tommy Black has to be a good bet at 18/1 to be first goalscorer tonight. Get on at Stanley. Got best price on Palace at Betfair, 4.5. Would prefer to back us to qualify, but 4.5 is to big.

Looked at the weekend. or maybe Boxing Day yet ?

ozeagle

17-12-2002, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
of the week;

Rochdale to beat Bristol Rovers

Rovers have lost their past 6, scoring 1 and conceding 11..Rochdale of recent years have been strong in this Div, and are coming off Sat's 4-0 hiding of league leaders Hartlepool.

expect 3 or 4-0

take the 1.70 and have plenty on.

:p

hope you were all on, i super loaded.

weekend plugster:

rushden over carlisle
yeovil over stevenage
chester over hereford
stockport over northampton

get about 6.6 the 4 of them.

load up !

:p

Plugster

19-12-2002, 05:56 PM

Anybody fancy Leicester away to the Seaweed tomorrow. Got on at even money.

Also looking at Villa away to Chelsea at the weekend. Crewe away to Swindon to.

Got on Leeds at 22.0 to win the FA Cup. Massive price.

Papster

19-12-2002, 06:00 PM

Leicester at evens is ok, but i really don't fancy villa after seeing themlast night. They've got nothing going forwards. Crewe away at swindon worth a punt.

Plugster

20-12-2002, 04:36 PM

Backed Leicester tonight at 2.0 and 2.05. Also trying to get hold of Sheff Wed, Crewe,and Reading. Bombed out Villa, but would be a layer of Chelsea.

ozeagle

21-12-2002, 02:04 AM

bloody hereford, killed me with the draw, loaded stockport though.
good work with leicester, let's hope yeovil and rushden do the job..

Plugster

21-12-2002, 10:45 AM

Settled for the following this weekend.

Sheff Wednesday away to Grimsby. Trying to get some 3.65.

Crewe away to Swindon. On at 2.38 on Betfair. Best price. :)

Reading away to Crewe. Got on Reading at a massive 4.2. Again, best price available on Betfair.:)

Also got the best price on Leicester last night. Its very nice when you get proper value.

Plugster

21-12-2002, 10:49 AM

Couldn't resist the 7.4 on Villa to beat Chelsea.

Grim Reaper

21-12-2002, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by Plugster
Settled for the following this weekend.

Sheff Wednesday away to Grimsby. Trying to get some 3.65.

Crewe away to Swindon. On at 2.38 on Betfair. Best price. :)

Reading away to Crewe. Got on Reading at a massive 4.2. Again, best price available on Betfair.:)

Also got the best price on Leicester last night. Its very nice when you get proper value.

If Crewe are playing two teams at once surely you've got to back against them in both games!!! ;)

Gutted I've only just seen this thread. Tried to get the BBS to make a new betting forum in the summer and even offered to plough insome sponsorship money through One More Point. They didn't like the idea which is fair enough - just glad we've got this up and running.

What chance of it being made a sticky?

Couple of points - glad to see Petehead feature in this thread. They've been very good for me this season and the last four weeks have seen them win 4-0, 4-1 and 4-2. Lovely!

The other teams to continually look for are Inverness (although with their manager redently departing they might be on on teh slide) Falkirk (aweome at home) and Raith. Happy punting and keep those tips coming! :)

Papster

21-12-2002, 02:28 PM

Falkirk are always in my accumulators when at home, very reliable.

Haven't had much luck recently, and this weekend not looking much better:confused: Hereford always seem to win when I back a team to beat em:bash:

ozeagle

22-12-2002, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by Papster
Falkirk are always in my accumulators when at home, very reliable.

Haven't had much luck recently, and this weekend not looking much better:confused: Hereford always seem to win when I back a team to beat em:bash:

i think it's one in 10....

not a good weekend,
chester failed to score, rushden couldn't get over carlisle.

surely palace can defend well enough to keep today for under 3 goals ?

:p

Plugster

23-12-2002, 09:51 AM

Ok, i'm going large. Very confident (bold statement in my form) I have three shoe-ins for Boxing Day. I top class treble.

Forest away to Sheff Wed, 1/1 with Paddy Power.
Coventry home to Reading, 6/5 with Paddy Power.
Crewe away to Cheltenham, 6/5 with Paddy Power.

Of the three, Forest look maximum wager material. Confident you could get around 2.2 on Betfair.

One last thing. Would you back Palace at say 5.5, or lay Portsmouth at about 1.6 ?

Grim Reaper

26-12-2002, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Plugster

One last thing. Would you back Palace at say 5.5, or lay Portsmouth at about 1.6 ?

Just got back from the in-laws for Xmas and been itching to get internet coverage so I could lay Pompey at 1.6. 1-1 at present and I feel like I will be regrettiung not placing the bet before Christmas. Let's see how the last 30 mins pans out - I may well be pleased I didn't do the bet.

Papster

27-12-2002, 03:36 PM

Just when you think your luck can't get any worse, I pick:

Chelsea to beat Soton
Forest to beat Weds
Norwich tobeat Scum
Derby to beat Grimsby
Rangers to win
Celtic to win

:sob:

Plugster

27-12-2002, 04:01 PM

...."Two out of three ain't bad".

Needed Forest for a lovely treble yesterday, but they let me down and showed a small loss.

Four good ones again for this weekend.

Leeds at home to Chelsea at around 3.0. Surely they have fromed this book the wrong way round ? Chelsea as short as 2.2. Utter madness.

Luton away to Wycombe. Massive morale boosting win against Cardiff on Boxing Day. Good record away from home. To big at 2.78.

Crewe at home to Oldham. In as good a form as any team in the league (well sort of). Been a real punters pal to me this season. They have come in for me five or six times. Haven't backed them when they've let me down. Scoring loads and not letting many in. Get on at 1.98.

Finally I really like Derby away to Reading. Derby can beat anybody on their day, but are an in and out side. Readings good run has come to an end, big time. Its no coincidence that they have lost all three games since Matt Upson went back to Arsenal. Not scoring goals either. Derby to big at 4.0.

Whack them all in a Yankee and back them individually.

Grim Reaper

27-12-2002, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
Just got back from the in-laws for Xmas and been itching to get internet coverage so I could lay Pompey at 1.6. 1-1 at present and I feel like I will be regrettiung not placing the bet before Christmas. Let's see how the last 30 mins pans out - I may well be pleased I didn't do the bet.

Doh! I told me so!

Just thinking about it, with the advent of betfair.com the bet every week has simply got to be to lay whoever Palace are playing. OK, so we don't win all the time but just seven losses in nearly 30 games in all comps (six in 25 in league) is a very handy record.

Like the sound of your tips Plugster. I'll be off to betfair in a mo to nab some of that value. Outstanding pick with the Crewe result at Cheltenham by the way. :p

Grim Reaper

27-12-2002, 11:18 PM

Grimsby at 2.88 looks good. They've just won 2/2 while Norwich are on the slide and even slumped at home to the Seaweed!!!

Typically it was 2.9 when I looked. By the time I'd compared it to the other odds it had gone down to 2.86, which I snapped up. Just looked again and now the odds are 2.88!!!

Palace can be snapped up for 280/1 to win the FA Cup yet even at that price it's dead money.

daz_eagle

27-12-2002, 11:46 PM

Do yourselves a favour and listen to me - back Blackpool at a shade of odds-on to beat Colchester!!! Also consider the value in Luton away at Wycombe and Hull away at York (7/4 on WillHill). They're my tips for this w/e. Good luck everybody.

Grim Reaper

28-12-2002, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by Grim Reaper

The other teams to continually look for are Inverness (although with their manager redently departing they might be on on teh slide) Falkirk (aweome at home) and Raith. Happy punting and keep those tips coming! :)

Inverness 4-1 AWAY
Falkirk 5-0
Raith 3-0 AWAY

Why on earth do I tip these teams then not follow them up with regular bets. Only had Raith in my acca today. Two mins to go - a goal for either Sheffield team will win me money. PLEEEEASE!

Good tip to the poster above on Blackpool by the way - likewise the Leeds tip. Shame I didn't follow them

Hey, wait a minue , the Seaweed have just scored two in two mins. Two winning and three drawing on my Ten trebles from five teams. Come on you stinking Seaweed or Sheffield teams!!!!! :lux:

Grim Reaper

28-12-2002, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
Inverness 4-1 AWAY
Falkirk 5-0
Raith 3-0 AWAY

Two mins to go - a goal for either Sheffield team will win me money.

Make that Sheffield United. Stupid Wednesday have gone 3-2 down.

ozeagle

29-12-2002, 06:13 AM

plugster seems to have found some form, but he needs to.

for sunday, try newcastle spurs over 2 goals, and cardiff to drill huddersfield.

Plugster

29-12-2002, 10:35 AM

Get on Betfair NOW, and back Newcastle at 2.06. Unbelievable price. They were even as big as 2.08 ten minutes ago.

Plugster

29-12-2002, 10:42 AM

Now that I feel I am in a better bit of from now, I'll look ahead to New Years Day.

Definatley like the chances of Luton away to Chesterfield. For all the reasons I backed them against Wycombe on Saturday. See if you can get some 3.0.

After seeing Preston yesterday, I would be betting against them with Stoke. Stoke are slowly turning their form around and are scoring more goals. I thought Preston were really quite poor. Looks like they are staring to miss the presence of Ricado Fuller, especially in away games. Look for some 3.0.

Any body got any early fancies for the FA Cup ? Theres got to be a chance of a few shocks. Got a slight fance for Bristol City away to Leicester.

congress

29-12-2002, 10:54 AM

How does the betfair work, I can understand the backing 2.8 is equal to 2.8-1?

I dont understand the laying procedure.

ozeagle

29-12-2002, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
plugster seems to have found some form, but he needs to.

for sunday, try newcastle spurs over 2 goals, and cardiff to drill huddersfield.

done it again Plugster, hope you were on..

i'll inspect your NYD tips, post mine later tonight, good man !

:)

ozeagle

30-12-2002, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by Plugster
Definatley like the chances of Luton away to Chesterfield. For all the reasons I backed them against Wycombe on Saturday. See if you can get some 3.0.

After seeing Preston yesterday, I would be betting against them with Stoke. Stoke are slowly turning their form around and are scoring more goals. I thought Preston were really quite poor. Looks like they are staring to miss the presence of Ricado Fuller, especially in away games. Look for some 3.0.

Any body got any early fancies for the FA Cup ? Theres got to be a chance of a few shocks. Got a slight fance for Bristol City away to Leicester.

right, here we go:
don't like either of Plugster's...Chesterfield are strong at home, and Stoke just plain pants, Preston are the draw specialists..

for a good win, couple the following in an accumulator

yeovil over forest green
bournemouth over swansea
crewe over mansfield...
get over 3.0

then load the lot on Palace at Blackpool at 2.3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:p

Feather

30-12-2002, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by congress
How does the betfair work, I can understand the backing 2.8 is equal to 2.8-1?

No, these are decimal odds and are the returns including your stake. For example, if you put a quid on something at 2.8 you get £2.80 back, including your stake. It is the equivalent of 1.8/1.

Papster

30-12-2002, 04:29 PM

Gone for:
Yeovil win
Bournemouth win
Plymouth to do Cheltnam @8/13
Lincoln to do Boston at evens(I know, it's a derby, but Boston are pony)

Plugster

31-12-2002, 01:33 PM

Going large.

Leicester away to Reading, 13/10.
Blackpool at home to Huddersfield, 8/13.
Cardiff at home to Swindon, 4/9.
Luton away to Chesterfield, 7/4.
Wigan at home to Notts County, 4/11.
Bristol City away to Wycombe, 11/10.

Stick them all in a Heinz 57 with Paddy Power. Good Luck.

Plugster

01-01-2003, 08:25 AM

Is the 5/4 with Paddy Power that Wayne Rooney plays for England at any time, the best of the novelty type bets ? Looks like a really good bet in my eyes. The Racing Post seems to think you will only have to wait until Feburary when we play Australia at Upton Park.

Grim Reaper

01-01-2003, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Plugster
Is the 5/4 with Paddy Power that Wayne Rooney plays for England at any time, the best of the novelty type bets ?

ANY TIME???? Is that ever or just in 2003? If it's ever then I'll be putting my mortgage on it!

ozeagle

01-01-2003, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by Plugster
Going large.

Leicester away to Reading, 13/10.
Blackpool at home to Huddersfield, 8/13.
Cardiff at home to Swindon, 4/9.
Luton away to Chesterfield, 7/4.
Wigan at home to Notts County, 4/11.
Bristol City away to Wycombe, 11/10.

Stick them all in a Heinz 57 with Paddy Power. Good Luck.

terrible Plugster, i thought you said you were a sucessful punter ?

crewe and yeovil did the job, bournemouth postponed.

now to f.a cup 4th round...

palace to win away at Blackpool
everton to win away at shrewsbury
charlton to smash exeter
ipswich to belt morecambe

get 5-1 the 4 of them.

and you ?

Grim Reaper

02-01-2003, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
ANY TIME???? Is that ever or just in 2003? If it's ever then I'll be putting my mortgage on it!

Anybody?

Grim Reaper

02-01-2003, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
terrible Plugster, i thought you said you were a sucessful punter ?

Give the guy credit - he'd done well leading up to this. Maybe it was a New Year hangover clouding his judgment!

Luckily I tried to do his bet at 2.55 but spent so long trying to work out why Reading v Leicester wasn't available (it had kicked off earlier) that it went past 3pm and I missed the chance to bet. Just as well really! ;)

Are you sure about Palace? Thought about it myself then realised a) when we last won an away match in the cup and b) then even worse when I realised how long it's been since we won away in the Third Round. It's scary when you realise how long it is. :(

ozeagle

02-01-2003, 07:24 PM

mate, Plugster's been appalling since he told us all he was a keen
and successful football punter..
i want him to win, much as the next bloke but the facts suggest his record is poor, at best.
as for Palace, how do you suppose they will score against us ?
they won't, meaning we'll need 1, and the form Tommy's in, particularly against Div 2
opposition, we'll get at least 1..
take the 2.30 and super load it with Everton to win away.
:lux:

ozeagle

03-01-2003, 12:48 PM

big movers with Centrebet, in from 2.3 to 2.15....must be all my £££
other biggest mover is Everton, in from 1.55 to 1.42.
William Hill will bet you all 2.25, take it, and WIN
Eagles !!
:p

Plugster

03-01-2003, 02:40 PM

As I have been in such poor form recently, I thought I would have a look a see what my financial position was over the season so far. I was stunned to find out that I am showing a profit of £90.95. I know ozeagle will have trouble believing this, but its true. I've checked my records twice and come up with the same figures !

No really strong fancies this weekend, although I will still be having a punt.

Wimbledon away to Rotherham at about 3.5. Rotherham have lost there last three home games (I think) after only losing to Portsmouth before losing to Palace, Millwall, and Sheff Wed. Wimbledon are a good team and have scored plenty of goals away from home.

Sheff Wed away to Gillingham at 5.5. Sheff Wed have alot of good players and are in a so called false position in the league. There recent form is good and in general, I just fancy them.

Bristol City away to Leicester at 7.4. Again, very much one I just fancy. was tempted to lay Leicester but i'm just to tempted by the big odds on Bristol City. They have only lost once in the last 17 games.

Plugster

03-01-2003, 02:42 PM

Ozeagle beware. Before lumping on Charlton, take into consideration that they have a very poor record of going out of the cup in the early rounds and playing poorly against lower league teams. Do some research first.

ozeagle

03-01-2003, 05:33 PM

plugster, your redeeming feaure is that you select teams at odds, so please don't think i'm having a go...
i always spend the utmost time researching my tips (ask Ozeaglette), in this case i care nothing for past years records, Charlton will win comfortably, they are as strong as they've ever been, it'll be eay for them.
by the way, i'm celebrating my 5.6-1 double on the tennis today, jean paul lisnard to beat rainer schuettler, and stefan koubek to take out younes el nayaoui !!

Grim Reaper

04-01-2003, 06:36 AM

OK, who was it who couldn't resist the 280 being offered on Palace to win the Cup on Betfair? Own up because I've got an original Van Gogh I want to sell you - honest! ;)

Having a quick scan through the odds on Betfair and I have to hold my hands up to sticking a couple of quid on Exter at 18.5 - at that price I couldn't resist. Besides, Woking beat WBA at 20/1 in 1991 and that was before the Betfair days, so who knows.

Seems like the value's being dried out of some of the ones I had a fancy for. Was hoping for 3.5 on Wimbledon and only got 3.2. Backing against Leeds should pay dividends.

Elsewhere I've got a nice position on John Part to win the PDC Darts without Phil Taylor. A win tonight and it's in. Having said that, having seen Taylor wobble last night in a titanic struggle with Dennis Smith, I'm tempted to lay Taylor overall at 1.25. Tough match against Warriner tonight and maybe Part in the final. I know he's the greatest player of all time but the other players are getting the feeling they can beat him and that hasn't happened for a few years.

Hey oz, any more tennis tips?

ozeagle

05-01-2003, 04:10 PM

take the treble at a short price on Monday
hrbaty, ferrero, gaudio
probably about even money.

ozeagle

06-01-2003, 11:48 AM

nice little treble above landed..

for Tuesday, take the short priced 2.6 about the following 5, all put in take out jobs...

koubek, novak, kuerten, srichaphan (heading for top 5 this year), safin.

:D

ozeagle

06-01-2003, 12:04 PM

just checked the prices for this Sat...
Palace 2.4 !!!!!!!
this is hideous !!!
get on, and keep putting on !

D J

06-01-2003, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
ANY TIME???? Is that ever or just in 2003? If it's ever then I'll be putting my mortgage on it!

It's Rooney to play for England in 2003, not ever and its now 4-5.

ozeagle

07-01-2003, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by ozeagle
nice little treble above landed..

for Tuesday, take the short priced 2.6 about the following 5, all put in take out jobs...

koubek, novak, kuerten, srichaphan (heading for top 5 this year), safin.

:D

grim reaper, no sets dropped for safin, kuerten, koubek..

just waiting on paradorn (aus open winner) and jiri to do the job.

:p

ozeagle

07-01-2003, 04:19 PM

yes, yes, yes, Jiri and Paradorn do the bizz.
2.3, 2.6....hope Grim you were on...

ozeagle

07-01-2003, 04:22 PM

safin, gaudio, and moya in rd 2 in Sydney..get 3.3 the treble...
LOAD UP !

Plugster

07-01-2003, 06:09 PM

Cheers oz. Backed your fivefold last night. Got on Sheff Wed at 5.1 tonight. Initilal fancy for the weekend is Charlton away to Chelsea. Quite a strong fancy. Any views ?

Parttimeguy

07-01-2003, 06:09 PM

safin is a ******

ozeagle

08-01-2003, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by Plugster
Cheers oz. Backed your fivefold last night. Got on Sheff Wed at 5.1 tonight. Initilal fancy for the weekend is Charlton away to Chelsea. Quite a strong fancy. Any views ?

bloody Gaudio shafted us last night, he is a player of much promise, luckily i got mine back on Srichaphan, had to take the shorts, but got my cash back, still, 10 of 11 aint too bad...hope you loaded the 5 fold.

the trick with tennis is to avoid the players who can be upset, and it takes a good year to work them out...some will never lose in the opening couple of rounds, some do, 2 to avoid are Kafelnikov and Federer..both of them hearts like peas....

initial thoughts for the weekend, seriously are to super load the double, Palace away at Bradford and the rampant Cardiff away at Northampton...yes, i know Northampton have a new coach, alas they are 0 for and 10 against their last 3 at home, against a quality side, expect cardiff 2 or 3 nil, likewise Bradford have no forwards, and we have a great defence, with Tommy on fire, expect 1 or 2 zip to Palace.

in the mercedes golf take Retief Goosen to beat Howell in the head to head, and perhaps Ian Poulter to beat anders Hansen..Poulter usually very strong early, bottles it at the finish..

don't like Sheff Utd, think Liverpool can grind out a win.
as for Charlton, don't like them either, but you may have the historical perspective..chelsea have the best home defence in the league

i REALLY like Burton Albion to take out Leigh RMI in the Conference..that's my best. get on, and put plenty on.

:angel:

Plugster

08-01-2003, 04:46 PM

Has a look at the weekend, and have come up with my three probable punts.

Palace away to Bradford. We have a good record against them, and are playing with alot of confidence. Another good thing is that we have players coming back from injury. Our current team will have an eye on the Liverpool game, and won't want the injured players coming back to get in the team. Getting bigger with Betfair. Trying to get some 2.7.

Charlton away to Chelsea. Good to the see that the Chelsea of old are on th eway back. Charlton have an excellent record in recent years, home and away against Chelsea. Thry are also very good in the London derby games. Betfair, pppllleeeaaassseee give me some 7.0.

Forset away to Preston. Preston are really, really missing Ricardo Fuller. Four defeats in the last four games, one, at home to Rochdale in the FA Cup. Only scored once in these games to. I went to West Ham v Forest last weekend and Forest played some nice football. They also created quite alot of chances. Forest have struggled to score goals away recently, but looked to me to be a team on the up again. Betfair, huge bet if you can get the 2.96.

ozeagle

08-01-2003, 04:50 PM

tennis:
think Marat Safin at 1.5 is a good price to beat HK Lee, also like Dominic Hrbaty to take out J M Gambill, especially at the 2.7...
great game Srichaphan v Ferrero, think Paradorn can do him, much more a hard courter than the clay courter Ferrero (effective enough though on hard)
what about the golf Plugster ?

get on Burton Albion !!!

:p

daz_eagle

08-01-2003, 05:09 PM

I hate decimal odds - we're English aren't we! let's ahve some good old fashioned fractions please!!

ozeagle

08-01-2003, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
tennis:
think Marat Safin at 1.5 is a good price to beat HK Lee, also like Dominic Hrbaty to take out J M Gambill, especially at the 2.7...
great game Srichaphan v Ferrero, think Paradorn can do him, much more a hard courter than the clay courter Ferrero (effective enough though on hard)
what about the golf Plugster ?

get on Burton Albion !!!

:p

on second views, oxo hrbaty, 2-0 to gambill in the h2h, towellings as well...

safin at 1/2, hrbaty at 17/10...

searching for more tennis locks..
;)

daz_eagle

08-01-2003, 05:27 PM

I've gone and put £25 on Liverpool at 10/11
and £10 on Murcia to beat Alaves at home in the cup at 7/5

This comes after losing money on Finnish Ice Hockey........yeh Finnish Ice Hockey!!!!!!!! Why do I do it?! :sob: :(

:lux:

ozeagle

08-01-2003, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by daz_eagle
I've gone and put £25 on Liverpool at 10/11
and £10 on Murcia to beat Alaves at home in the cup at 7/5

This comes after losing money on Finnish Ice Hockey........yeh Finnish Ice Hockey!!!!!!!! Why do I do it?! :sob: :(

:lux:

where did you get on finnish ice hockey ?
i quite like a bet on finnish ice hockey !
real madrid at 8/15 at terrassa, great price, take it and load plenty.
murcia strong at home, v alaves, a team that struggles to score, let alone away from home, looks sensible, alas, alaves are a div above ?
:hmph:

daz_eagle

08-01-2003, 05:36 PM

got on finnish ice hockey at willhill mate. go to ice hockey dropdown menu. alsp has german and swedish, as well as usa of course.

Plugster

08-01-2003, 05:59 PM

Not to sure about the golf.

Just backed Sri Lanka to beat Australia in the next VB Series game. We saw what the Aussies are like without there two best bowlers, and Sri Lanka cannot play any worse and aren't a bad team. Worth playing at small stakes. I'm on at 5.0, and after some 5.5.

ozeagle

08-01-2003, 07:50 PM

sri lanka are great, i think this is a tremendous bet !!
:D

Plugster

08-01-2003, 09:18 PM

Real Madrid are pants. Kiss MY cash goodbye, thank you very much !:bash:

daz_eagle

08-01-2003, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by daz_eagle
I've gone and put £25 on Liverpool at 10/11
and £10 on Murcia to beat Alaves at home in the cup at 7/5

This comes after losing money on Finnish Ice Hockey........yeh Finnish Ice Hockey!!!!!!!! Why do I do it?! :sob: :(

:lux:

F*ck, P*ss, Sh*t, B*llocks, C*nt, A*se!

Chasing Chasing Chasing. :confused:

Grim Reaper

08-01-2003, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Plugster
Real Madrid are pants. Kiss MY cash goodbye, thank you very much !:bash:

You're joking. Real DIDN'T win????

Missed this thread for a few days and now realised that I missed some money in the tennis. Will now follow this thread religiously once again as I did last week.

Malakite

08-01-2003, 10:04 PM

Poostiss Oxo, you must stop loading this thread! :bash:

ozeagle

08-01-2003, 10:10 PM

simply can't believe Real Madrid, what a disastrous nights punting, 3-1 up with 10 mins to play....
better get it back on the golf:
i can get 1.5 chris riley to take out gene sauers in hawaii..
here's hoping.

ozeagle

09-01-2003, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by ozeagle
on second views, oxo hrbaty, 2-0 to gambill in the h2h, towellings as well...

safin at 1/2, hrbaty at 17/10...

searching for more tennis locks..
;)

safin withdrew and without my $$, hrbaty won !!!

:sob:

time to load chris riley in the golf.

ozeagle

09-01-2003, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by Plugster
Not to sure about the golf.

Just backed Sri Lanka to beat Australia in the next VB Series game. We saw what the Aussies are like without there two best bowlers, and Sri Lanka cannot play any worse and aren't a bad team. Worth playing at small stakes. I'm on at 5.0, and after some 5.5.

great work with this one, plugster.
hope you had more than small stakes on !
:lux:

stevejfh

09-01-2003, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by ozeagle
sri lanka are great, i think this is a tremendous bet !!
:D

I'm sure I read something along the lines of 'Sri Lanka are pants - kiss your cash goodbye!' last night, oz!!:D

What do you think of Leeds chances at Maine Rd - 2/1 with Premierbet? Leeds the Premiership's form team right now & Man City were poor on Sunday?

markholmes1991

09-01-2003, 09:28 AM

Steve, Ed Powell who does the latest sporting odds on Talksport (blue Square) Said the other day, there were two teams he would be very reluctant to ever put a wager on. Man City and our very own Palace!!! Mainly due to the in consistency both teams show.

I wouldn’t touch Man city, two erratic the only consistency they offer is there inconsistency.

ozeagle

09-01-2003, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by stevejfh
I'm sure I read something along the lines of 'Sri Lanka are pants - kiss your cash goodbye!' last night, oz!!:D

What do you think of Leeds chances at Maine Rd - 2/1 with Premierbet? Leeds the Premiership's form team right now & Man City were poor on Sunday?

this is a great bet.
get on.
leeds are the BEST away side in the premiership.
2/1 is highly generous.
:p

Icy

09-01-2003, 02:23 PM

Just put a score on the long list for the weekend football

Man U away at WBA
Leciester to beat Stoke
Wimbledon home win against Grimsby
Cardiff away to Northampton
Oldham home win against Brentford

Tough calls this week with all the usual favs having tough games or playing one another and im not to sure about Man U

alexthefatdawg

09-01-2003, 02:43 PM

Just thought that I would mention that I took Palace at 260/1 with betfair before the Blackpool game. Silly price really

ozeagle

09-01-2003, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Icy
Just put a score on the long list for the weekend football

Man U away at WBA
Leciester to beat Stoke
Wimbledon home win against Grimsby
Cardiff away to Northampton
Oldham home win against Brentford

Tough calls this week with all the usual favs having tough games or playing one another and im not to sure about Man U

seems a fair multi, especially the cardiff bit.
:lux:

selhurst star

09-01-2003, 03:14 PM

As Ozeagle has spotted, Chris Riley to beat Gene Sauers in tonights Mercedes golf 1st round 2 balls is a good bet. 1.5 isnt to bad but you can get 4/6 at corals! This should be a 4/9 shot, fill yer boots!! I khow its only 9 days old, but this is the bet of the year so far.

selhurst star

09-01-2003, 03:14 PM

As Ozeagle has spotted, Chris Riley to beat Gene Sauers in tonights Mercedes golf 1st round 2 balls is a good bet. 1.5 isnt to bad but you can get 4/6 at corals! This should be a 4/9 shot, fill yer boots!! I know its only 9 days old, but this is the bet of the year so far.

selhurst star

09-01-2003, 03:16 PM

Oops, double post, well, it is a good bet!

ozeagle

09-01-2003, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by selhurst star
As Ozeagle has spotted, Chris Riley to beat Gene Sauers in tonights Mercedes golf 1st round 2 balls is a good bet. 1.5 isnt to bad but you can get 4/6 at corals! This should be a 4/9 shot, fill yer boots!! I know its only 9 days old, but this is the bet of the year so far.

what do you know of Chris Riley ?

:D

ozeagle

09-01-2003, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by daz_eagle
got on finnish ice hockey at willhill mate. go to ice hockey dropdown menu. alsp has german and swedish, as well as usa of course.

loaded HIFK to win away at Ilves, 3-0 up after 2nd period, think everyone loaded, in from 1.75 to 1.65.

mate, try www.centrebet.co.uk

by far the best internet betting site in the world.

:p

tennis tips for Friday a.m

mens: novak over mantilla

womens: schiavone over bartoli

get about 2.15 the double, load it, big time.

novak has destroyed mantilla in their last 2 meetings,
schiavone playing a hack qualifier.

daz_eagle

09-01-2003, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
loaded HIFK to win away at Ilves, 3-0 up after 2nd period, think everyone loaded, in from 1.75 to 1.65.

mate, try www.centrebet.co.uk

by far the best internet betting site in the world.

:p

tennis tips for Friday a.m

mens: novak over mantilla

womens: schiavone over bartoli

get about 2.15 the double, load it, big time.

novak has destroyed mantilla in their last 2 meetings,
schiavone playing a hack qualifier.

have £50 on it hahah :p (the finnish ice hockey)

selhurst star

09-01-2003, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
what do you know of Chris Riley ?

:D STANDARD STATS Rank Additional Stats
Driving Distance 272.7 166th Tot. Dist. - 52,357 Tot. Drvs. - 192
Driving Accuracy Percentage 70.5% 56th Fwys Hit - 947 Poss. Fwys - 1,343
Greens in Regulation Pct. 65.1% 113th Greens Hit - 1,125 # Holes - 1,728
Putting Average 1.713 3rd GIR Putts - 1,927 Greens Hit - 1,125
Eagles (Holes per) 360.0 151st # Holes - 1,800 # Eagles - 5
Birdie Average 4.01 13th # Birdies - 401 Tot. Rnds. - 100
Scoring Average 70.17 17th Tot. Strks - 6,990 Tot. Adj. - 27.130
Sand Save Percentage 53.5% 64th # Saves - 84 # Bunkers - 157
Total Driving 222 136th Total rank from stats 1 & 2
All-Around Ranking 583 38th Total rank from stats 1-8
Money Leaders $2,032,979 23rd - -
Par Breakers 22.6% 19th #Bird/Eagl - 406 #Holes - 1,800
Putts Per Round 27.83 2nd Tot. Putts - 2,672 Tot. Rnds. - 96
BIRDIE STATS Rank Additional Stats
Par 3 Birdie Leaders 16.5% 10th Par3 Birds - 66 Par3 holes - 401
Par 4 Birdie Leaders 19.4% 3rd Par4 Birds - 204 Par4 holes - 1,053
Par 5 Birdie Leaders 37.9% 120th Par5 Birds - 131 Par5 holes - 346
Birdie Conversion Percentage 32.5% 20th # Birdies - 364 Greens Hit - 1,121
SCORING AVG. STATS Rank Additional Stats
Scoring Avg. (Actual) 69.90 6th Tot. Strks - 6,990 Tot. Rnds. - 100
Scoring Avg. Before Cut 69.86 18th Tot. Strks - 3,912 Tot. Rnds. - 56
Round 3 Scoring Avg. 69.78 16th Tot. Strks - 1,605 Tot. Rnds. - 23
Final Round Scoring Average 70.18 33rd Tot. Strks - 1,544 Tot. Rnds. - 22
OTHER STATS Rank Additional Stats
Total Eagles 5 114th - -
Total Birdies 401 11th - -
Career Money Leaders $4,259,716 106th - -
Consecutive Cuts 14 4th - -
Top 10 Finishes 5 27th 1st - 1 2nd -
Ball Striking 249 128th Tot. Drv. - 136 GIR Rank - 113
Longest Drive 331 213th - -
Scrambling 66.2% 2nd Par or < - 399 Missed GIR - 603
Bounce Back 20.2% 88th - -
Par 3 Performance -1 13th Par 3 Avg. - 3.00 -
Par 4 Performance -49 1st Par 4 Avg. - 3.95 -
Par 5 Performance -105 71st Par 5 Avg. - 4.70 -
World Money List $2,032,979 26th - -

Anything else?

selhurst star

09-01-2003, 05:26 PM

Thought I might start to post what i consider to be outstanding bets,seeing as its what I do for a living! Comments like ozeagles 'what do you know about C Riley' make me realise it aint worth it.

Oz, what do you know about gambling?;)

ozeagle

09-01-2003, 05:26 PM

yes, Star, PGA.com, great site..
as for Daz, are you on HIFK ?
i have quite a bit more than £50 on this, 4-0 up now !
do you know where to get scores ?

daz_eagle

09-01-2003, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
yes, Star, PGA.com, great site..
as for Daz, are you on HIFK ?
i have quite a bit more than £50 on this, 4-0 up now !
do you know where to get scores ?

yeh i'm on HIFK 6-0 now, shoulda gone massive!

i get scores from http://www.sm-liiga.fi/default.asp?cmd=1

selhurst star

09-01-2003, 05:41 PM

So what are you trying to say Oz?

selhurst star

09-01-2003, 05:42 PM

And of course its from pga.com. what do you think im gonna do? make it up? or memorise all the stats? t*t :rolleyes:

stevejfh

09-01-2003, 10:00 PM

Leeds in to 15/8. I've done them in a double with Cardiff at 11/10. Fingers crossed!

ozeagle

09-01-2003, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by selhurst star
And of course its from pga.com. what do you think im gonna do? make it up? or memorise all the stats? t*t :rolleyes:

forget that mate, we're in trouble here, 1 down with 4 to play, Sauers is having a day out....
trust us to run into the hottest bloke on the course !!!
:sob:

daz_eagle

09-01-2003, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
forget that mate, we're in trouble here, 1 down with 4 to play, Sauers is having a day out....
trust us to run into the hottest bloke on the course !!!
:sob:

Ouch! I'm hoping for Els over Kuchar and Di Marco over Gogel dbl, coz I also hav Mediate over Choi and he's f*cking about!

daz_eagle

10-01-2003, 12:12 AM

Oh man, commiserations to Riley backers!!!! he finished 8 under leader of the pack, and so did his betting rival Saurs!!!!! Jeez!:eek:

alexthefatdawg

10-01-2003, 12:14 AM

If you are watching the golf (I don't have Sky) can anyone see any reason not to back Els to win the tournament?

Oisin

10-01-2003, 12:22 AM

OK, bit of advice needed. I see at the moment France are 13/2 to win the Rugby world cup. Conceivably they will go out to 8/1 or more if they lose to England at Twickenham on the first weekend of the Six Nations (which I believe they will do). I’ve had a look at the draw and there’s no way I can’t see them making the last four and they might well win it. This sounds like to good a bet to be true. Where have I gone wrong? Also will I get the same return if they lose in the semis as the final on an e/w and what will that be? (assuming a stake of a ton at 8/1).

alexthefatdawg

10-01-2003, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by Oisin
OK, bit of advice needed. I see at the moment France are 13/2 to win the Rugby world cup. Conceivably they will go out to 8/1 or more if they lose to England at Twickenham on the first weekend of the Six Nations (which I believe they will do). I’ve had a look at the draw and there’s no way I can’t see them making the last four and they might well win it. This sounds like to good a bet to be true. Where have I gone wrong? Also will I get the same return if they lose in the semis as the final on an e/w and what will that be? (assuming a stake of a ton at 8/1).

Each way is usually first two only in knockouts ie reach the final and that is basically the flaw in the whole argument. They can't reach the final without beating at least one side that they shouldn't really be able to beat especially in the Southern Hemisphere

alexthefatdawg

10-01-2003, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by alexthefatdawg
If you are watching the golf (I don't have Sky) can anyone see any reason not to back Els to win the tournament?

Oh well, I've gone and done it now anyway

daz_eagle

10-01-2003, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by alexthefatdawg
Oh well, I've gone and done it now anyway

he's making good progress, nice punt. :p

alexthefatdawg

10-01-2003, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by daz_eagle
he's making good progress, nice punt. :p

Thank you but a long way to go!!!

selhurst star

10-01-2003, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by ozeagle
forget that mate, we're in trouble here, 1 down with 4 to play, Sauers is having a day out....
trust us to run into the hottest bloke on the course !!!
:sob:

Well, you cant allow for that! Riley done pretty much as expected but you gotta take your hat off to Sauers for matching him blow for blow. Hey ho, it happens . Lost a packet on that! Never mind, its only on loan. :p

Finbar

10-01-2003, 08:26 AM

Got home drunk last night, saw that Riley was -7 and went to bed cursing myself for not having lumped on.

Can't believe he didn't win with that score!!

ozeagle

10-01-2003, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by selhurst star
Well, you cant allow for that! Riley done pretty much as expected but you gotta take your hat off to Sauers for matching him blow for blow. Hey ho, it happens . Lost a packet on that! Never mind, its only on loan. :p

mate, we were had, i dropped 400 on him, however, with my available balance at 427 i had 27 on the tie at 9-1, which made up for quite some of the loss,
backed jim furyk to beat estes as well, but not as much...can't believe, furyk only won by 2 having a 9 under.
what do you reckon, we double up on riley tonight, v sauers again !
the only other time sauers has been near the top 10, is in canada when he led from go to wo...
interested in your views..
surely the bet is for chris dimarco to beat matt kuchar, i'm going to load up..

selhurst star

10-01-2003, 11:56 AM

Think Riley will do the bizz tonight but not playing on that one at the available prices. Charles Howell to beat Rich Beem is the one for me tonight. An all round better player with great length of the tee, just needs to start holing a few putts and he will take off.

ozeagle

10-01-2003, 12:01 PM

yes, agreed with Howell, long hitter, great record on the easy par 5's which this course has, but Beem no mug AND Howell has a heart like a pea...much prefer DiMarco myself.
notice Umbro trophy tomorrow, no Burton v Leigh, anyone with any tips?

selhurst star

10-01-2003, 03:21 PM

Ladbrokes going 8/11 Riley and I like that, doubled up with Howell also at 8/11 to get back last nights losses and some.

ozeagle

10-01-2003, 03:25 PM

hard to get 2 up in a night, hard enough to get one, as last night proved...dimarco for me.
had a little on braga in portugal as well.
NOVAK is a cert in the tennis in N.Z as well, load up.

Plugster

10-01-2003, 05:05 PM

I haven't gone anywhere. Just a bit inactive at the moment. Only managed to back Sri Lanka at 5.0 the other night. My request of5.5 was not matched, which was unfortunate.

Backed England to beat Australia tonight. Backed them at 3.4, and after some 3.5 to. Much of my reasoning for backing us, is the same for backing Sri Lanka yesterday. Confidence is on the up in the England camp. I feel Markus Trescothick is very close to a big knock in the one-day series. He has an even more carefree atitude than in the test matches.

No strong tips for the weekend football action. But I will list them in order of my favoured ones first. Starting with......

Charlton to beat Chelsea. Charlton are very good in the London derby games. They also have a good record against Chelsea home and away. In the first game of the season, they were 2-0 up, had a player sent off, and eventually lost 3-2. They were very unlucky.

Palace to beat Bradford. We are playing well at the moment and all the players will be on a high. Not only because we are playing well, but also because the team will be buzzing about the Liverpool game. As I said in an earlier post, the team, at the moment will be aware of the likes of Johnson, Akinbiyi, Routeledge, Borrowdale, and Thomson all waiting in the wings after coming back from injuries. The real bet is to lay Bradford, but i'm going to back Palace.

Hull to beat Exeter. Hull are playing well at themoment and have beaten the league leaders at their new ground recently. Just a bit of a fancy. One that I will be putting in my Yankee.

Peterhead to beat Elgin. Thrashed them away 4-0 in December. Everybody seems to back them, but I never have. Will take all the beating, and again. one for the Yankee.

Backed them all individually, and did I mention, I'm putting them all in a yankee. Best price for the hhmmmmm Yankee is £141.32 to a £1 stake.:D :)

daz_eagle

10-01-2003, 10:21 PM

Charlton to beat Chelsea!? Silly, Silly bet. :hmph:

My personal thoughts are that Fulham are too big to ignore at 7/4 at the Reebok, as are Wrexham at 8/5 away to Boston. :p I'll be backing Palace too, coz, well, we're better than them.

I've got £60 on Riley at 8/11 in the golf btw. :confused:

selhurst star

10-01-2003, 11:13 PM

Im on Riley too, worried now, sauers is one of them 'clingy to my playing partners coat tails' type of player, After goimg 2 down early the first thing I see on sky is him making birdie to get within 1. Good luck

ozeagle

10-01-2003, 11:18 PM

2 clear, better than dimarco's going..long way to go though

selhurst star

10-01-2003, 11:23 PM

yeah long way to go. di marco only 1 back though. riley only 1 up v CLINGON sauers:veryangry

selhurst star

10-01-2003, 11:24 PM

di marco level now. all the best oz

Plugster

11-01-2003, 08:01 AM

How can England put themselves in a position like that, and still lose . 165 for 0, then lose seven wickets in 99 balls. I am really, really pi**ed off. If Australia were to put themselves in a similar position, you would back them to win 99 times out of 100. England cricketers simply do not know how to win a game. As for Nick Knight saying "we are very dissapointed". England will never, ever win anyhting worth winning with the current mangement and players.

I feel I have been bbaaddllyy let down.

Oh bother.

Finbar

12-01-2003, 10:08 PM

So how did people do?

Riley seems to be going well so hopefully some of you made some money.

Got stung at the casino last night (Grosvenor in Brighton), won £150 on roulette, then got very drunk, then lost £300 on blackjack...nuts. Good night though despite the loss.

Football bet lost on Saturday, three away wins all turned out as draws. 2nd time this season, perhaps next time I'll do aways and draws...nah

alexthefatdawg

12-01-2003, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Finbar
So how did people do?

Riley seems to be going well so hopefully some of you made some money.

Got stung at the casino last night (Grosvenor in Brighton), won £150 on roulette, then got very drunk, then lost £300 on blackjack...nuts. Good night though despite the loss.

Football bet lost on Saturday, three away wins all turned out as draws. 2nd time this season, perhaps next time I'll do aways and draws...nah

Well my Els bet is on the verge of coming to fruition but nothing guaranteed yet

ozeagle

12-01-2003, 10:32 PM

beware Malakite's favourite golfer, KJ Choi...he can get up.
i'm on Phil Tataurangi to beat Shigeki Maruyama h2h, 2 up, 11 to play....
a LONG way to go

Stavros 69

12-01-2003, 10:41 PM

i won a couple of quid on the spurs game today, i thought they were due a run

alexthefatdawg

13-01-2003, 12:10 AM

1f45

Originally posted by ozeagle
beware Malakite's favourite golfer, KJ Choi...he can get up.
i'm on Phil Tataurangi to beat Shigeki Maruyama h2h, 2 up, 11 to play....
a LONG way to go

I am getting concerned because I don't have sky and can't watch it. one under after 9 is piss poor on this course and he has such a history of blowing it when he leads into the final round!!

alexthefatdawg

13-01-2003, 12:13 AM

Tat 4 up with two to play so that's you home and hosed - now just waiting nervously for mine

selhurst star

13-01-2003, 12:22 AM

Get the bycycle clips out, els 1 up now

ozeagle

13-01-2003, 12:23 PM

tat was excellent, coupled him with some certs in the tennis, alas dimarco killed me again...although saying that he did have a 5 under, bloody price had a 7 under !!!

ozeagle

13-01-2003, 12:39 PM

just done form for tonight, surely Longford to beat Cork in Ireland.
Cork are pants away, and Longford drilled them 4-1 there last year, the 2.9 is MASSIVE.
take it and load plenty.
maccabi haifa should win away in israel as well

ozeagle

13-01-2003, 06:17 PM

gone 1 up after 2 mins, come on !!!
let it be a rout !!
:D

ozeagle

13-01-2003, 08:36 PM

yes, they hung on, 1-0, pity about bloody macabbi haifa...

alexthefatdawg

14-01-2003, 12:07 AM

Anyone have any views on the tennis. Klijsters and Agassi look the best value for me

alexthefatdawg

14-01-2003, 12:15 AM

As there is no-one online to share views I've gone ahead with Agassi at 5.2 and Clijsters at 9.2

Any views on Australia for cricket world cup at 2/1 or do we need to see how the bowling injuries come along

The Omen

14-01-2003, 12:19 AM

I'd take New Zealand as a good outside bet.

ozeagle

14-01-2003, 10:41 AM

australia no chance for the world cup, think saffies will win it, as for the tennis,
don't like agassi, really like Moya, Ferrero or Srichaphan.
Moya can take out Hewitt, any time, any place....

ozeagle

14-01-2003, 01:42 PM

right day 3 oz open:
santoro to beat arthurs
grosjean over kucera
costa over draper. get 3.0 the 3 of them.

ozeagle

14-01-2003, 02:08 PM

also;
expect ferrero to have one hell of a battle with lisnard
kafelnikov should knock over nieminem, the battle of 2 hearts with peas, and at 1.68, he has a GREAT record at the Oz open, whereas Jarkko is all serve.
in fact, on closer inspection yevgeny is probably the lock of the round, especially at the generous 1.7..

ozeagle

14-01-2003, 02:54 PM

surely Lazio towel up Bari in the Italian Cup 1st leg..Lazio strong at home Serie A, playing pants Bari, Serie B, poor away..
take the 1.4 and have plenty on...

ozeagle

15-01-2003, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by ozeagle
right day 3 oz open:
santoro to beat arthurs
grosjean over kucera
costa over draper. get 3.0 the 3 of them.

that multi was nice,
pity about the pea heart battle, yevgeny wimped it in the 5th...
anyone on anything tonight ?
coventry, surely ?
:angel:

Holmesdale

15-01-2003, 12:15 PM

Coventry seems pretty sound. Playing well at the moment. Good at home. Cardiff are very much a 'home' side.

James Varcoe

15-01-2003, 03:16 PM

Three bets in two days very lucrative
Tues
Queens Park to beat Albion Rovers last night 3.1 (in a 2 horse race?)
Penwill Hill 15.55 Southwell 7.2

Weds
Double Honour 13.00 Huntingdon 3.1

Sorry to gloat

:lux: :lux: :lux: :lux:

The Omen

15-01-2003, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Holmesdale
Coventry seems pretty sound. Playing well at the moment. Good at home. Cardiff are very much a 'home' side.

Not worth putting money on Coventry - they are 4/7.

Might be worth a bet on Cardiff I reckon, odds 9/2 - not going to put much on though!! :)

The Omen

15-01-2003, 03:45 PM

Coventry home record:
Won 8
Lost 3
Drawn 3

Cardiff Away record:
Won 9
Lost 5
Drawn 4

Got to be worth a bet..... :)

Plugster

15-01-2003, 07:09 PM

Had a nice winner last night. Backed Bury away to Swansea at 2.24. 0-3 after 30 minutes, Swansea battled back to 2-3 with 12 minutes to go, but Bury held on.

Couldn't fancy anything tonight, apart from maybe backing +2.5 goals. Nothing like a good bet though, so not playing.

My one to get stuck in to this weekend is Forest at home to Coventry. I backed Forest away to Coventry earlier in the season when they won 0-1. They have a very good record against Coventry, and score plenty of goals at home. They look a big price at about 2.42.

The other one I may have a bet on is laying Portsmouth away to Brighton. Pomey are in poor form, and if they aren'y careful, won't go up automatically this sesason. Brighton have all to play for, and its nearing the business end of the season, where Steve Coppell will be at his best. Hands up who'd back Pompey at 1.9, not me. I'd be a big layer at around 1.83. If I had the money I would also lay them in the First Division Championship race at 1.67.

alexthefatdawg

15-01-2003, 09:43 PM

1fb7

Originally posted by ozeagle
australia no chance for the world cup, think saffies will win it, as for the tennis,
don't like agassi, really like Moya, Ferrero or Srichaphan.
Moya can take out Hewitt, any time, any place....

Whoops Oz!!

Couldn't tip Hewitt and the Williams sisters for me could you :D

Holmesdale

16-01-2003, 08:47 AM

Anyone getting on Sheff Utd tomorrow night? Seems like a nice home banker but i'm always pretty dubious about derby matches.

ozeagle

16-01-2003, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by alexthefatdawg
Whoops Oz!!

Couldn't tip Hewitt and the Williams sisters for me could you :D

my comment about Moya and Hewitt still stands,
alas Moya and Srichaphan are gone..
now awaiting Ferrero...

having a bad couple of days here, must fight back on the golf tonight.
Beckman to beat Azinger and Pavin (2 lights of other days)..

:hmph:

alexthefatdawg

16-01-2003, 06:11 PM

Ferrero owes me big time after blowing my money in the French last year

What price have you on Beckman?

alexthefatdawg

16-01-2003, 06:16 PM

Oz, what do you think on Riley after last week's performance up against Lehman and Couples? The price is 2.34

ozeagle

16-01-2003, 06:25 PM

yeah, Riley looks good, alhough Lehman capable, Beckman's already gone 3 down...long long way to go though, here's hoping...

ozeagle

16-01-2003, 08:59 PM

beckman's gone, the little porn star corey pavin putting him to the sword, and also my cash,
loaded david smail in n.z as well, was 2 up after 9 but triple bogied th 10th, now level..
what is going on ? could it be too many bets ?
roll on oldham on sat, best bet of the weekend, take the double with leeds to trump west brom..

ozeagle

16-01-2003, 09:10 PM

smail goes and birdies the next to go 1 up again...
7 ! how does a professional, leading the tournament have a 7 ?
:sob:

alexthefatdawg

17-01-2003, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by ozeagle
what is going on ? could it be too many bets ?

Trying too hard to find something? I don't know, just guessing

I managed to get Riley at 2.26 in the end so that's two wins out of two since I spotted this thread. Klijsters and Agassi both still in but Andre looked a touch shakier last night!

I try very hard not to bet on individual football matches as I think the fascination of the game is its unpredictability - but I do sometimes give in to temptation! And I bet on CPFC to win 5-0 and 5-1 every match!

ozeagle

17-01-2003, 10:22 AM

last night, smail one up with 1 to play, jones birdies the last to tie...aargh ! then albert costa loses to mantilla in 5 ruining my multi !!
got plenty back on bradley dredge in s.a, but even then i had to face his opponent birdiing (how do you spell that) the last 3 !!!
looking to kenny perry to take out selhurst star's fav, gene sauers and rich beem tonight, perry is a proven performer and leading (always good) sauers will miss the cut, and beem is up and down like a nth london ladies panties...
michael campbell should return to some form in n.z later today..
really like Oldham tomorrow, and think Mansfield have some hope v the Spierites..

The Omen

17-01-2003, 10:27 AM

Anybody got any good tips on the horses today?

ozeagle

17-01-2003, 11:53 AM

queen g, race 3 wolverhampton, e.way forever..

The Omen

17-01-2003, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by ozeagle
queen g, race 3 wolverhampton, e.way forever..

Thanks for that one..... :(

:)

Plugster

17-01-2003, 02:58 PM

Sticking with the one single this weekend, Forest to beat Coventry. I'll let you know the price I get but it will be about 2.3.

Had a bet on a little double tomorrow to. York to beat Swansea (4/6), and Bury to beat Boston (4/6), with Paddy Power.

Looked at next week and have a fancy for Bury at Carlisle, and Blackpool away to Swindon.

Good punting.

daz_eagle

17-01-2003, 03:09 PM

Malisse to beat Nalbandian in Aussie Open Tennis. Both 5/6 on WH. Bolton look big at 10/3 to beat Charlton too. Good luck all.

ozeagle

17-01-2003, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by daz_eagle
Malisse to beat Nalbandian in Aussie Open Tennis. Both 5/6 on WH. Bolton look big at 10/3 to beat Charlton too. Good luck all.

hmmm, nalbandian did the job on Xavier at Wimbledon ?

also, Plugster, not sure of York City, heading for extinction, form dreadful..

i'm on kenny perry to win his group and pete lonard (major in him) to win his in hawaii, and michael campbell in n.z..

wigan.
oldham.
leeds.
arsenal.
cardiff

great accumulator

:lux:

ozeagle

17-01-2003, 11:56 PM

perry was 2 up, but had to settle for a tie.
malisse was up a break in the 1st on nalbandian but blew it,
campbell looking good, 2 up after 3..
peter lonard sheer class, but again, had to struggle in with a 1 shot win !

ozeagle

18-01-2003, 12:01 AM

AND MALISSE BREAKS AGAIN FOR THE SET, GIVE IT LARGE DAZ !

daz_eagle

18-01-2003, 12:29 AM

Malisse lost 2nd set 6-2. Bugger. :(

ozeagle

18-01-2003, 12:31 AM

oops, must have put the mozz, nalbandian up 5-2 in the 2nd..
federer cruising, as expected, 1.2..short but sweet..

ozeagle

18-01-2003, 12:31 AM

trumped me there daz, could be troubles methinks, got wimbledon semi written all over it !

daz_eagle

18-01-2003, 12:35 AM

I think you're right mate. Oh well, there's always the Saturday coupon.

ozeagle

18-01-2003, 12:46 AM

with Oldham on it, i hope...

ozeagle

18-01-2003, 12:47 AM

now down 3-0 in the 3rd as well, BAD news, heart like a pea Malisse, Nalbandian will prove to be to 10 this year, watch..

ozeagle

18-01-2003, 12:57 AM

now 5-0 down, oxo cash daz..
'bout the only winner i've tipped all week,
let's hope for a 5 set win !
come on you stella sipping muppet

ozeagle

18-01-2003, 01:06 AM

now down a break in the 4th ! 9 straight games to nalbandian !!!

cakehoover

18-01-2003, 01:12 AM

Have any of you guys tried out the subscription arbitrage services (e.g. www.sports-arbitrage.com)?

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*** For simplicity, this example ignores draws ***

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*** As I said earlier, for simplicity, this example ignores draws ***

At present, I try to focus most of my bets to situations where I know I will be able to arbitrage nicely. e.g. for a £45 initial stake, I have worked myself into a position where I will win £68.50 if England win the VB Cup in Australia, and will make £5 if either Aus or SL win.

At present, I use my own research to discover/manipulate my arbitrage positions, but I don't really have the time and was wondering if anyone had tried out sites such as www.sports-arbitrage.com.

(P.S. Occasionally, my heart gets the better of my brain and I go for bets such as £20 on Palace to win 3-1 vs. Burnley tomorrow at 14/1 !!!)

(P.P.S. I also have £50 on Palace at 300/1 to win the FA Cup. Given that I could now lay them at 220/1 that would give me a guaranteed return of £4,000 if Palace win, and no downside if Palace (by some miracle) fail to win the cup.. Should I wait until after we beat the Scousers before I lay Palace? I reckon that after such a result Palace would reduce to (say) 80/1 for the cup, which effectively represents odds of 220/80 (i.e. just under 3/1 for the Palace win) for the Palace win...

Ben H

18-01-2003, 01:16 AM

I'll have a read of that when I'm sober. Sounds interesting but do you need to be a maths genius to actually make any money??:confused:

daz_eagle

18-01-2003, 01:19 AM

Shocking display Malisse!!!

ozeagle

18-01-2003, 11:59 PM

i like the sports arbitage bit...will look into it, but one needs much funding to reap real benefit...
on a winner tonight, the future of world golf..(bar tiger)
aaron baddelley, a ridiculous 2.5 to beat retief goosen h2h in hawaii,
7 up after 7...
this kid is the real thing, just watch him go..
once in front, they won't run him down !

cakehoover

19-01-2003, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by Ben H
I'll have a read of that when I'm sober. Sounds interesting but do you need to be a maths genius to actually make any money??:confused:

The biggest hassle I found initially was that most of the online bookies use decimal odds (i.e. 2.5 = 3/2, 1.5 = 2/1 on or 1/2) which, although logical enough, still took a bit of getting used to. However, the up-side of digital odds is that they do make the maths easier.

Put simply, in a two team competiton (with no draw available) if you can find odds of x on Team A winning and y on Team B winning, then you are guaranteed a return if (x-1) * (y-1) > 1.

So, if Team A are quoted at 1.25 and (4/1 on) and Team B are quoted at 6 (5/1) then by backing each to win, say £100 (inc. stake), you are guaranteed a win as (0.25 * 5) = 1.25 which is greater than 1.

You would need to put £80 on Team A to win, and £16.67 on Team B to win. Then if Team A won, you would make 20-16.67 = £3.33. If Team B won, you would make 83.33 - 80 = £3.33.

The downsides of arbitrage are:
i) finding the opportunities in the first place,
ii) placing the bets in time,
iii) the fact that you are typically working with fairly small margins and consequently, if placing bets with multiple bookies, you might need quite a bit of cash on deposit to guarantee you having enough credit to place the bets

ozeagle

19-01-2003, 12:55 PM

cakehoover, i like it, although as i said, and you confirmed, you need a big cash pile to collect, us sports would be goo for you, no draw...
tonight i reckon baddeley can stall off ernie els, he has a 2 shot lead and is all class, 2.20 is great odds to take the tournament...
mons should beat beveren in belgium.
had a lucky win last night in n.z golf, had campbell going for a BIG result, went to bed, after 6 holes he was down by 3, his partner disintegrated on the back 9 giving me a 1 shot win, and much of this weeks losses back !
also like nalbandian to beat federer tonight and youznhy to beat roddick both at odds !

ozeagle

19-01-2003, 02:02 PM

took the 1.55. looking good, 2 up at HT
not a real flash tipping weekend as a group ?
:sob:

alexthefatdawg

19-01-2003, 05:19 PM

Evening Oz

Took 2.34 on Baddeley on your advice. I couldn't believe that Els was 2.28 so you could back them both and guarantee a profit. They are 5 clear and without any real names in the pack. Di Marco 20/1 and 32/1 bar

I broke my own rules yesterday and backed Chelsea so my 100% since joining this thread has gone! I must stop betting with my heart. I don't like Chelsea but boy do I hate Man U!!!

ozeagle

20-01-2003, 08:02 PM

got some loving last night, despite Baddeley's narrow loss, Nalbandian to take out Federer (heart like a pea) got 3.0 as well !!

alexthefatdawg

20-01-2003, 10:31 PM

Baddeley let us down Oz. I didn't see it but it wasn't a very good final round score. Did he bottle it?

ozeagle

20-01-2003, 10:49 PM

the kid did go one under, els went 3 under ?
els holed a 30 footer to win it, after baddeley had birdied the last to take it to a play off,
remember els is no.2 in the world.
baddeley first event on the US tour.....the future is bright.
he's a confidence player, back him in the next 3 ball he plays, probably this Thursday !

ozeagle

21-01-2003, 12:08 PM

baddeley is $34 to win in phoenix, unlikely, however, the $9.25 the top 4 looks good ? cash in on the lad whilst he's hot, he will prove to be the bollox over time.

alexthefatdawg

22-01-2003, 01:23 AM

Is he one of these streaky guys who can be followed for a while? I just love Campbell once he gets going cos you know your gonna get three weeks of it

ozeagle

22-01-2003, 09:33 AM

he is the bollox, rest assured:
take him to beat crane and mayfair in the 3 ball and read below:

Baddeley: 'Dot-com' kid schooled his game on Nationwide Tour Jan. 21, 2003
GolfWeb Wire Services

HONOLULU -- Aaron Baddeley is called "dot-com" by some of his peers, a reference to the brash kid who had big dreams, limited success and the audacity to wear the name of his Web site -- Badds.com -- on his hat and golf bag.

There might be a better reason to tag him with that nickname: his success on the Nationwide Tour .

He was eligible to play on the European Tour. Instead, he chose the Nationwide Tour, now in its 13th year.

"I had the best year of my life," Baddeley gushed.

Skill was never a problem for the 21-year-old Aussie.

Baddeley showed he had loads of talent by winning the Australian Open in back-to-back years as a teen-ager, then taking out Sergio Garcia in a playoff at the Holden International.

He never lacked a swagger, either.

Baddeley talks openly about wanting to topple Tiger Woods as No. 1 in the world. He relished his final-round pairing with Ernie Els at the Sony Open in Hawaii , and probably offended some by saying after his playoff loss, "I didn't have my A-game ... and I still had a chance to win."

What he needed was an education.

Instead of showing up on the PGA TOUR a half-dozen times a year, Baddeley spent a full season on the Nationwide Tour, playing a 17-event schedule.

He learned how to practice during the week, how much to work out. He gained a better appreciation for scoring -- when a par isn't great, when a bogey isn't all that bad.

"Things you only get through playing," he said.

Baddeley forced a playoff at the Sony Open in Hawaii with a birdie on the 72nd hole.(AP)
Baddeley was a runner-up three times, and with a PGA TOUR card dangling in front of him, he closed out the year with four finishes in the top 15. He was 10th on the money list.

Equally important, the Boy Wonder from Down Under made friends.

Lots of them.

He hung out with Arron Oberholser and Jeff Klauk, spending time with them in the gym, in the sushi bars and on the practice range.

"We had dinner quite a bit," Klauk said. "He loves sushi. He'll go to the same restaurant every night if he finds something he likes."

A fitness freak who can lift 310 pounds, Baddeley used to ham it up for rules officials. Whenever they would ask directions, he would flex his muscles to point the way.

"There was a huge process that we got to watch evolve, where he came from a guy who enjoyed worldwide success but still wasn't on his own," said Joe Chemycz, a media official on the Nationwide Tour.

"He learned how to play, how to travel, how to make decisions, how to be disciplined. It was fun to see. It was like his freshman year in college, only he didn't put on 15 pounds."

College was never a consideration.

Baddeley announced his career plans at age 14 when he told his father that he was giving up cricket and wanted to play on the PGA TOUR. After winning the Australian Open, his father set aside $30,000 for him to play whatever

TOUR events he could.

Baddeley rarely made the cut and was never in contention. His confidence starting to wane, Baddeley dumped Aussie swing coach Dale Lynch and hooked up with David Leadbetter, with whom he has spent the last 18 months.

They worked on getting the clubface more square, making his swing more shallow.

Woods won just twice on tour over an 18-month span when he reshaped his swing. Then again, Baddeley didn't have the luxury of a PGA TOUR card, not to mention a 12-stroke victory in The Masters.

"It was probably a blessing in disguise playing the Nationwide Tour," he said. "I could work on my game and still play. There's a bit of pressure out there trying to change your swing and still try to get your card."

Give him a choice, and Baddeley says he would have preferred to be on the TOUR a few years ago. Kids are always in a hurry.

"But would I change the last two years? No," he said. "What I learned the last two years will hold me in good stead for the rest of my life."

It led him to Waialae Country Club for the Sony Open in Hawaii, and a performance that suggests it won't be long before he becomes the 60th Nationwide Tour grad to win in the big leagues.

He caught Els with a birdie on the 14th hole, and never flinched the rest of the way, putting enormous pressure on the No. 2 player in the world. It ended on a miracle putt by Els from 43 feet off the fringe for birdie on the second playoff hole.

"I thought the kid was going to go away, but he kept at me," Els said. "He's going to win a lot of titles."