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Dai the Swansea Eagle
26-07-2000, 05:48 PM
Did anyone see a little story in the papers a few days back that the Yanks are trying to hush up that before the last Olympics many of their medal winners were tested positive for drugs. This was the statement made by a guy who was high up in the dope testing setup in the States. He claims they were told to cover it up and many athletes went on to win medals.

Bet it is the same this year too. Then they go all righteous when the Chinese and Irish try and beat them at their own game.

I cannot believe that all the British athlete's who have tested positive for nandrolone or whatever are innocent as claimed. Many of their excuses are not plausible coming from intelligent people. I don't buy it and my interest in Athletics has waned as a esult (I liked Athletics from the moment I nearly killed a teacher with a badly aimed discus..). unfortunately you have to wonder about Linford Christie's achievements after he was caught earlier this year...

Any thought or solutions? The rewards are so big that the risks will always be taken by mediocre athletes in my opinion.
John 24
06-08-2000, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by Dai the Swansea Eagle on 07-26-2000 01:48 PM
I cannot believe that all the British athlete's who have tested positive for nandrolone or whatever are innocent as claimed. Many of their excuses are not plausible coming from intelligent people. I don't buy it and my interest in Athletics has waned as a esult (I liked Athletics from the moment I nearly killed a teacher with a badly aimed discus..). unfortunately you have to wonder about Linford Christie's achievements after he was caught earlier this year...



I can't believe what I'm reading. You can't really believe Christie's guilty. Why would he bother taking drugs near the end of his career when he has already achieved everything in athletics. I think the system is useless which ruins many hard working athletes chances such as Mark Richardson.


[This message has been edited by SmithEagle (edited 17 August 2000).]
Blind_Eagle
08-08-2000, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by John 24 on 08-06-2000 12:08 AM

Why would he bother taking drugs near the end of his career when he has already achieved everything in athletics.


Perhaps he has always taken them but has only got caught 'near the end of his career'?
John 24
09-08-2000, 03:10 AM
Or maybee, as hundreds of athletes have said, the testing system is just unreliable. He was tested many times during his career and was not once tested positive, so saying he's always taken them is very, very unlikely! Much more likely the tests have been wrong once than almost every other time in his career.
Dai the Swansea Eagle
09-08-2000, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by John 24 on 08-08-2000 11:10 PM
Or maybee, as hundreds of athletes have said, the testing system is just unreliable.

Ah, but they would say that wouldn't they....

Sorry John but I am very very cynical about athletics, the excuses the athlete's make and the fear that the different athletic federations have about introducing more rigorous testing because of being threatened with legal action if someone comes up positive. Christie was a great champion, but in the light if the revalations about the US team I just can't help but wonder whether or not as drug taking is so rife that unless you are a supreme individual, the only way ANYONE can compete is to join the cheats.
Slimbloke'H'
09-08-2000, 07:57 PM
He was tested many times during his career and was not once tested positive,

Er.. That’s not strictly true, is it? At the Seul Olympics he tested positive for a banned substance, although it wasn’t performance enhancing. I seem to recall it was put down to a mixture of a cold remedy and ginseng!!! Having said that I’m sure that it was as innocent as his more recent case.
John 24
10-08-2000, 03:27 AM
Dai, as you say that is a very cynical view. I just can't believe that all these athletes would spend the hours they do every day training if the majority of them are cheating. That would make all of them dishonest cheats and believing that really is cynical. I just think that the vast majority of athletes deserve credit, as do sportsmen and women in a number of sports, for the hard work they put in to achieve what they do.
John 24
13-08-2000, 06:29 AM
wow, the olympic trials were pretty good, especially the mens 100m. We've now got four world class 100m runners, we must win the relay. Mark Lewis-Francis certainly looks like he could be very, very good.
lightweight
16-08-2000, 09:10 PM
he's opted to go to the student games tho haasn't he?? one to watch for the future I guess.

disappointed in the way they've treated Iwan Thomas though.
Spanish Dan
16-08-2000, 09:25 PM
I think the selectors were pretty much banking on Richardson and Baulch finishing 1-2 and then the whole problem would've been avoided. When they had to choose between Baulch and Thomas, it really had to go to the one who was fit (although personally I think a half-fit Iwan Thomas would still beat Baulch).

John24 - you're right about the 100m runners, but I'm disappointed that our 4x400 team has gone downhill so drastically.
Gooders
16-08-2000, 10:20 PM
As a hardened cynic, I'm with those who think they're nearly all cheating.

It's the only way to "compete" these days and winning is all, unfortunately.

Mr C kept running at the very highest level to a ripe old age. Stands to reason that he'd do anything to keep it going a little bit longer too doesn't it?
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John 24
17-08-2000, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by Spanish Dan on 08-16-2000 05:25 PM
(although personally I think a half-fit Iwan Thomas would still beat Baulch).

John24 - you're right about the 100m runners, but I'm disappointed that our 4x400 team has gone downhill so drastically.



I too would rather see Iwan go as 18 months ago before his injury nightmare he was awesome, and looked like it wouldn't be too long before he would really be challenging Johnson. The way the selectors treated Iwan was a disgrace. The 100 metres makes up for it slightly though, all four of them are very good prospects and apparently there's more on their way.
Ian of Chatham
17-08-2000, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Gooders on 08-16-2000 06:20 PM
As a hardened cynic, I'm with those who think they're nearly all cheating.

It's the only way to "compete" these days and winning is all, unfortunately.

Mr C kept running at the very highest level to a ripe old age. Stands to reason that he'd do anything to keep it going a little bit longer too doesn't it?

Whatever happened to the old saying "Innocent until proven guilty?"
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