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Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 08:29 AM
Not wanting to be outdone by the Horley thread, here's a thread dedicated to the heroin capital of Croydon, Addiscombe, which is home to Psychokiller,Addiscombe Eagle and Kevlon to name but three.
http://www.croydon.gov.uk/smartercroydon/EnvImp/Lower_Addiscombe_Road_before.JPG
Lower Addiscombe Road

http://www.canni.demon.co.uk/Image3.jpg

Lower Addiscombe Road in the old days

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 08:40 AM
The Porter and Sorter in Trolley's day:

http://www.tboa.co.uk/slides/tboa1/full/030.jpg

BaldEagle96
05-02-2003, 08:41 AM
Looks lovely - must visit soon.. :rolleyes: :D

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 08:46 AM
Addiscombe Station - pre demolition

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 08:47 AM
The Addiscombe Bakery
http://www.addiscombe-bakery.co.uk/graphics/shopfront.jpg

This place makes the tastiest bread in Croydon!

Al From Bromley
05-02-2003, 08:49 AM
Are these pictures going to get smaller and smaller? I thought I'd walked in on a widescreen movie at first! :)

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 08:52 AM
If I reduced them It'd ruin the whole Addiscombe experience!

Blind_Eagle
05-02-2003, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
The Addiscombe Bakery
http://www.addiscombe-bakery.co.uk/graphics/shopfront.jpg

This place makes the tastiest bread in Croydon!

The guy that owns that is a member of my shoot :p Hardly saw him last season as he was invariably too knackered from baking 'till 4am to get down to Sussex for 9.

The bread is great I agree

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 08:55 AM
Bah! I've been funding MURDER! :( I buy a loaf every Saturday morning (well, every Saturday morning I make it home anyway!)

Al From Bromley
05-02-2003, 08:57 AM
That makes you an accessroy to the fact! Murderer! And you always seemed such a nice chap :)

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 08:59 AM
The Station from the street. This station has now been demolished and replaced with a housing development. The other half of the line is being made into a park.

Ruskin Old Boy
05-02-2003, 09:01 AM
Thanks for posting the pics PK .... lived in Cross Road, off Cherry Orchard, for 4 years and have fond memories of many of the pubs. It was also pretty cool walking from where DH Lawrence lived to Davidson Road school; following in his footsteps didn't improve my literary qualities though:)

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Ruskin Old Boy
Thanks for posting the pics PK .... lived in Cross Road, off Cherry Orchard, for 4 years and have fond memories of many of the pubs. It was also pretty cool walking from where DH Lawrence lived to Davidson Road school; following in his footsteps didn't improve my literary qualities though:)
Conan Doyle lived in Tennison Road, but I guess that counts as South Norwood.

Which pubs did you frequent? I often use the Builders Arms, the Cricketers and Clarets (which has 12 different guest ales per week!)

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 09:14 AM
The tram junction at the end of Clyde Road

Sir.S.C Remembered
05-02-2003, 09:43 AM
Petts Wood good! Addiscombe no

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by Sir.S.C Remembered
Petts Wood good! Addiscombe no

I thought my opinion of you could not get lower:grrr:

Lovely Pics PK, especially the old one of the Porter and Sorter.

Perhaps an Addiscombe Tourist board would be a good idea. Come to Addiscombe to escape from your world. I can see it now, loads of yanks and our fellow Europeans flooding Addiscombe.

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 09:48 AM
Come to Academy Gardens and sample the best heroin money can buy! :D

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 09:51 AM
" Have a traditional ale and packet of peanuts in the Blackhorse, see if you get stabbed as you leave".:)

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 10:01 AM
The now long since gone Bingham Road station


http://www.transport-of-delight.com/UK/BritishRail/WSCR/jpgs/BinghamRoad5.jpg

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 10:03 AM
Ye olde Addiscombe when it was quaint.

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 10:04 AM
The grand old church in Canning Road

http://www.dswark.org/parishes/001fx.jpg

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 10:14 AM
Have you got a picture of the really old house in the petrol garage next to woodside school?

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 10:16 AM
Can't find one :(

Ruskin Old Boy
05-02-2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller

Which pubs did you frequent? I often use the Builders Arms, the Cricketers and Clarets (which has 12 different guest ales per week!)

Now that is a difficult question - this is the 1970s I'm trying to remember. Local was the Horse and Groom but we often pub crawled along Lower Addiscombe Road, remember one very nice boozer, nearer Ashburton Park than the Cherry Orchard Road end of it.

The picture of Bingham Road Station reminds me of the Tony Hancock movie, part of which was shot along that line - weird scene with him and Hugh Lloyd having a ruckus on the train after they'd boarded it at Bingham Road station.

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 10:21 AM
Unfortunately the Horse and Groom is now a gay pub, and the patrons look like a Darby and Joan Club cast of the Rocky Horror Show.

The only boozer I can think of near Ashburton Park is the Black Horse, which is falling to pieces these days :(

Ruskin Old Boy
05-02-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Unfortunately the Horse and Groom is now a gay pub, and the patrons look like a Darby and Joan Club cast of the Rocky Horror Show.

The only boozer I can think of near Ashburton Park is the Black Horse, which is falling to pieces these days :(

Blimey:eek:

Black Horse it was - used to be a nice boozer; uncle lived near there before the War and my mum used to talk about some of the wedding receptions held there during and after the war. Shame it's going downhill:(

SIKO
05-02-2003, 10:32 AM
And of course David Prowse (Darth Vader and the green cross code man) used to live in Addiscombe

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by SIKO
And of course David Prowse (Darth Vader and the green cross code man) used to live in Addiscombe
He lived in Kynaston Rd, Thornton Heath when I was at school!

MicksSis
05-02-2003, 10:41 AM
Are those roadworks still at the junction of Blackhorse Lane? I work in Addiscombe area on Fridays, and the last couple of weeks are been a right pain!!!....

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
He lived in Kynaston Rd, Thornton Heath when I was at school!

I think he lived on Bingham Road as well.

Pistike
05-02-2003, 10:47 AM
Marvelous thread PK thanks.

Never had the pleasure of living anywhere near the place.

Is the bakery in the parade of shops to the right of where the station was?

Strange if it is because (given your remarks about it being the smack capital of Croydon), I used to score my drugs as a young lad from a couple of rockers who lived in the flat above it.

JV and I used to travel on the Elmers End to Sanderstead branch of the same line to school every day.

Happy days (getting of my face, not going to school)

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 10:54 AM
The bakery is near the corner of Cherry Orchard Road, though most of the smack in Croydon originates from Academy Gardens, the sink estate by where the station used to be.

MicksSis
05-02-2003, 10:55 AM
Oh my, I think I might have known them :eek:

Trolley
05-02-2003, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
The Porter and Sorter in Trolley's day:

http://www.tboa.co.uk/slides/tboa1/full/030.jpg

Golly Gosh.

I have actually imbibed in this hostelry over 15 years ago with a dear old friend (Sadly now deceased) who used to pay a visit to this establishment from time to time.

I distinctly recall an Irish bartender by the name of "Chris" and the lovely lady was always charming and jovial.
I also recall the Bar Manager by the name of "Tom" who also hailed from the "Emerald Isle".

What pleasant memories.

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 11:06 AM
http://www.londonbusroutes.net/photos/JPEGs/t01-2532-1.jpg

Woodside Tram Stop. This was formerly the train station before the line was shut down.

Wedgy
05-02-2003, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller


Woodside Tram Stop. This was formerly the train station before the line was shut down.

and a popular place to relieve yourself when coming home from a night on the P*** :o

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 11:38 AM
http://www.photo-rail.co.uk/images/ues466016b_300597lr.jpg
Addiscombe Station shortly before closure and demolition

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 11:41 AM
Spot the trainspotter with his Camera:D

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 11:43 AM
Not my pics, just things I've found on the web. And I'm fascinated by industrial history anyway, including the railways!

Wedgy
05-02-2003, 11:43 AM
Could you be bored without any new Serial Killers around PK?

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Not my pics, just things I've found on the web. And I'm fascinated by industrial history anyway, including the railways!

No not you, the bloke in the photo on the right of the platform.

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 11:45 AM
LOL! I didn't notice him!

Wedgy
05-02-2003, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
LOL! I didn't notice him!

Didn't recognise your own brother????? :eek:

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Wedgy
Didn't recognise your own brother????? :eek: :D

ANL
05-02-2003, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Unfortunately the Horse and Groom is now a gay pub, and the patrons look like a Darby and Joan Club cast of the Rocky Horror Show.

The only boozer I can think of near Ashburton Park is the Black Horse, which is falling to pieces these days :(

Probably one of the bars that scro frequents.

Trolley
05-02-2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Not my pics, just things I've found on the web. And I'm fascinated by industrial history anyway, including the railways!

PK is a "Railway enthusiast"

:D

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 12:05 PM
http://www.tboa.co.uk/slides/tboa1/full/037.jpg

Cherry Orchard Road junction with Lower Addiscombe Road in the old days

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 12:08 PM
Thats the Pub(can't remember the name) which is boarded up and closed.

Selhurst300
05-02-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
http://www.tboa.co.uk/slides/tboa1/full/037.jpg

Cherry Orchard Road junction with Lower Addiscombe Road in the old days

Didn't realise the trams used to go down there.
I must try and dig out an old London tram map to remind me where the old tram and trolley bus routes went around Croydon.
Mind you, Trolley should remember them all.

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Trolley
PK is a "Railway enthusiast"

:D
No. A railway enthusiast (trainspotter) needlessly spends hours copying numbers from the side of trains and gets a hard on every time they see a train for the first time.

I have a general interest in history, especially industrial and Victorian era history, mainly based around the London area.

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by AddiscombeEagle
Thats the Pub(can't remember the name) which is boarded up and closed.
It's the Lesley Arms. It got shut down because a couple of representatives from Croydon Trading Standards went in there to carry out an inspection and were aparrently offered drugs within 10 minutes of arriving!

Trolley
05-02-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
No. A railway enthusiast (trainspotter) needlessly spends hours copying numbers from the side of trains and gets a hard on every time they see a train for the first time.

I have a general interest in history, especially industrial and Victorian era history, mainly based around the London area.

I am eternally grateful that you have put my mind at rest.

:p

Smurph
05-02-2003, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
It's the Lesley Arms. It got shut down because a couple of representatives from Croydon Trading Standards went in there to carry out an inspection and were aparrently offered drugs within 10 minutes of arriving!

Shocking! A ten minute wait is totally unacceptable!

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 12:22 PM
http://members.lycos.co.uk/ccma/Lower_Ad_Rd.jpg

Lower Addiscombe Road today

Kevlon
05-02-2003, 12:24 PM
I live down Warren Road, just opposite the new Tesco metro and Esso garage and old Tristar Rover dealer.

The Tram runs through an old train route doesnt it? I remember years ago I used to go into the tunnels at Bigham road before the tram were built and walk through them in the pitch dark and arrive somewhere around llyods park. Has anybody else walked through them or am I the only saddo?

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Kevlon
I live down Warren Road, just opposite the new Tesco metro and Esso garage and old Tristar Rover dealer.

The Tram runs through an old train route doesnt it? I remember years ago I used to go into the tunnels at Bigham road before the tram were built and walk through them in the pitch dark and arrive somewhere around llyods park. Has anybody else walked through them or am I the only saddo?
We live in very close proximity then!

Yes, when I was at school we used to climb the wall by Ashburton road and walk down the old rail line to the edge of Lloyd Park. There was another, more scary walk of that disused line in South Croydon which involved crossing a disused train bridge about 70ft high across Croham Road!

Kevlon
05-02-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
We live in very close proximity then!

Yes, when I was at school we used to climb the wall by Ashburton road and walk down the old rail line to the edge of Lloyd Park. There was another, more scary walk of that disused line in South Croydon which involved crossing a disused train bridge about 70ft high across Croham Road!

Never walked through the South Croydon route but I used to poo my pants when walking through the addiscombe tunnles! I remember finding melted frogs along the entrance of the tunnels.

Where abouts do you live in Addiscombe? If you live near me you must remember the old dairy place that stank of milk just by Leslie Park road? They knocked it down and built flats soon after I moved into the area.

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 12:44 PM
Kevlon check PMs

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 01:17 PM
Shirley Roundabout at the end of Addiscombe Road at lunchtime today.

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 01:34 PM
http://www.croydon-tramlink.co.uk/pictures/gallery/centre/WellesleyRd/BodyundertheTram.jpg

A typical Croydon Tramlink scene

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 01:38 PM
:D

Ruskin Old Boy
05-02-2003, 01:56 PM
That last pic was serious anorak stuff PK (they moved the body very quickly;) )

Amazing - Addiscombe Eagle's picture of Shirley Park Hotel reminded me that was where we (Palace fans from New Addington) got off the 130 bus and walked to and from Selhurst Park by way of Shirley Road, the footpath alongside Ashburton Park, Stroud Road, Woodside Green, the infamous Dickenson's Lane (scary after night games) and Tennison Road. Thanks for the memories guys:p

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Ruskin Old Boy
That last pic was serious anorak stuff PK (they moved the body very quickly;) )

Amazing - Addiscombe Eagle's picture of Shirley Park Hotel reminded me that was where we (Palace fans from New Addington) got off the 130 bus and walked to and from Selhurst Park by way of Shirley Road, the footpath alongside Ashburton Park, Stroud Road, Woodside Green, the infamous Dickenson's Lane (scary after night games) and Tennison Road. Thanks for the memories guys:p

Thats the route I take now apart from the 130 bit.

Dickensons lane or dog •••• alley as it is also known.:p

ruediger
05-02-2003, 02:00 PM
Great thread. :p
But can we have one refering to Thornton Heath as well?

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 02:03 PM
As I grew up in Thornton Heath that's quite likely!

ruediger
05-02-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
As I grew up in Thornton Heath that's quite likely!
Excellent. I'm looking forward to a Thornton Heath thread.

Ruskin Old Boy
05-02-2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by ruediger
Excellent. I'm looking forward to a Thornton Heath thread.

It'll be 1001 pictures of Brigstock Road from different angles - The Pond, The Library, The Station, The Clock Tower:D

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 02:08 PM
Addiscombe using a picture phone from the top of the NLA tower(50p building) at East Croydon.

Sorry poor quality.

Del Gland
05-02-2003, 02:09 PM
So there we have it..Addiscombe is full of heroin enthusiasts and train addicts.

Thank God I live in Horley!!

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 02:26 PM
I can handle heroin enthusiast, but TRAIN ADDICT? Purlease!

BHEAGLE
05-02-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Unfortunately the Horse and Groom is now a gay pub, and the patrons look like a Darby and Joan Club cast of the Rocky Horror Show.

The only boozer I can think of near Ashburton Park is the Black Horse, which is falling to pieces these days :(
My dad used to play cards in the Blackhorse and the Cricketers

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by BHEAGLE
My dad used to play cards in the Blackhorse and the Cricketers

The Cricketers won't have changed a bit. Still the same as the 50's from what I have heard. Still got Buddy Holly on the juke box.:D

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 02:56 PM
The Cricketers is closed for refurb next weekend. I mean the Cricketers near Lebanon Road tram stop, not the one on Shirley Road.

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 03:12 PM
I was talking about the Shirley Road one. The other one is 10 times nicer as it is!

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 03:13 PM
Best pub in Addiscombe is either the Builders Arms or Clarets IMHO

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 03:17 PM
A lot of good things are being said about Clarets, I make the effort to drink in the Porter.

Mat ov CPFC
05-02-2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Best pub in Addiscombe is either the Builders Arms or Clarets IMHO

Both are good. I have only ever had a swift lunch time pint in the Builders but it seems the sort of Pub one could grow quite attached to :)

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by AddiscombeEagle
A lot of good things are being said about Clarets, I make the effort to drink in the Porter.
I used to drink in the Porter all the time, till it got invaded by w@nkers. Clarets is good if you're into proper beer - often they have 12 guest ales at any one time!

Spanish Dan
05-02-2003, 03:41 PM
I've heard that Clarets is about the size of the average living room.

Oh and by the way, don't tar all of Addiscombe with the same brush - I live up near Blackhorse Lane tramstop and the drug of choice for the residents around there is more likely to be sanatogen or perhaps viagra for some of the more active ones.

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 03:48 PM
Small it may be, but the selection of decent beer is probably the best in Croydon!

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 03:50 PM
Hopefully, I should be buying a house in Carshalton at the end of the month, will I have to change my username or is it a case of "you can take the boy out of Addiscombe but you can't take the Addiscombe out of the boy".

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 03:56 PM
Ashleigh and India House - The East India Comapny's training seminary, Addiscombe Road

http://www.croydon.gov.uk/ledept/heritage/images/photos/PLAQUES/BIG_IMAGES/asleigh_building_2_big.jpg

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 04:00 PM
Tunbridge Wells eat your heart out

Psychokiller
05-02-2003, 04:16 PM
http://www.tboa.co.uk/slides/tboa1/full/029.jpg

The Black Horse in Trolley's day....

Pistike
05-02-2003, 04:34 PM
My Great Grandmother had a bit of a speach impodiment and used to pronounce Thornton Heath - Fornton Heeft.

AddiscombeEagle
05-02-2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Pistike
My Great Grandmother had a bit of a speach impodiment and used to pronounce Thornton Heath - Fornton Heeft.

:p :p Very good Sarf London accent she had.

Regal Eagle
06-02-2003, 04:49 PM
Just caught up with thread...been away.

Great photos pk,
I used to live in Addiscombe Court Road and I believe there used to be a milk bottling plant at the bottom along Leslie Part Road opposite the Builders Arms....as was said, a great pub.

I always enjoyed being around Addiscombe..not sure I would want to live there now though. Seems very busy these days with through traffic.

By the way I heard that the Leslie Arms has just been listed as a ?grade 2 building as it has some Art Deco? features. Can anyone clarify this?

Lucky Steve
06-02-2003, 06:26 PM
I also liked the photo of the old porter. Nice to see what home was like back then. as Trolly stated I can also remember the old managment in there, Tom was a great landlord.

Gagging Ferret
06-02-2003, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
http://www.tboa.co.uk/slides/tboa1/full/029.jpg

The Black Horse in Trolley's day....

Superb pictures.I used to get my fishing tackle(fished at crystal palace and norwood lakes)from a pet shop that was next to the pub.I havent been in the pub for years but i hear it is a bit rough.

Pistike
06-02-2003, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by AddiscombeEagle
:p :p Very good Sarf London accent she had.

Good spot, it wasn't actually a speech impodiment.

She lived in Mundania Road Peckham.

Psychokiller
07-02-2003, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Regal Eagle
Just caught up with thread...been away.

By the way I heard that the Leslie Arms has just been listed as a ?grade 2 building as it has some Art Deco? features. Can anyone clarify this?

Yes. It's about to be redeveloped into a hotel. The owners tried to demolish it but the council got it listed (one of few good things this poxy council has ever done)

Smurph
07-02-2003, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by Pistike
My Great Grandmother had a bit of a speach impodiment and used to pronounce Thornton Heath - Fornton Heeft.

I remember a contestant appearing on The Generation Game who, when introduced by Brucie as Jackie (or whatever) from Thornton Heath, jumped in saying "Nah, Fort'n 'Eaff" as if it was a completely different place!

As a native of TH I too say "F" when I should say "TH" and vice versa, eg
3.35 may well come out as "Free Firty Thive."

Psychokiller
07-02-2003, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by Gagging Ferret
Superb pictures.I used to get my fishing tackle(fished at crystal palace and norwood lakes)from a pet shop that was next to the pub.I havent been in the pub for years but i hear it is a bit rough.
Not only a bit rough, but in a state of disrepair, almost unrecognisable from the grand old building in the photo :sob:

Regal Eagle
07-02-2003, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Yes. It's about to be redeveloped into a hotel. The owners tried to demolish it but the council got it listed (one of few good things this poxy council has ever done)

According to one of the letters in the Advertiser, the Leslie is to be converted into a home for asylum seekers. Whether temporary or not I don't know but whilst not getting into the usual argument over asylum seekers, I was hoping that there may be an old famous pub being brought back into use.

Oryol
07-02-2003, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Yes, when I was at school we used to climb the wall by Ashburton road and walk down the old rail line to the edge of Lloyd Park. There was another, more scary walk of that disused line in South Croydon which involved crossing a disused train bridge about 70ft high across Croham Road!

That bridge was relatively intact, though. In fact, isn't it still there? If you got that far, coming from the Addiscombe direction, you must have already crossed the bridge over Coombe Road (next to Coombe Road station, as was, now houses beside Lloyd Park where the tram turns sharp left (or right, depending which direction you're going)). For some time before this bridge was knocked down it just had a criss-cross of iron girders about two feet apart and otherwise open to the street below. Now that WAS a scary walk.

eagle mart
07-02-2003, 12:54 PM
Ah the Blackhorse, Croydons oldest pub, in fact the Pub dates back before Croydon so much so Croydon should be named after it! It's dates back to the mid-eighteenth century.... (was reading this in that Chelse* pub- Cricketers, Addiscombe Road before the Liverpool home game.)

I was brought up in a Addiscombe and saw the 'Horse from my bedroom window for twenty odd years. It's now run by a couple of Mickey Mousers. It used to have a superb footy team as well. Gone a bit down hill now....

eagle mart
07-02-2003, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Regal Eagle
According to one of the letters in the Advertiser, the Leslie is to be converted into a home for asylum seekers. Whether temporary or not I don't know but whilst not getting into the usual argument over asylum seekers, I was hoping that there may be an old famous pub being brought back into use.

It certainly is, used to drink in there before going into Croydon. Now it's turning into an asylum seekers bedsit which'll give them an excuse to stay in the area and make everyone find a new pub to drink in. :hmph:

Psychokiller
07-02-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Oryol
That bridge was relatively intact, though. In fact, isn't it still there? If you got that far, coming from the Addiscombe direction, you must have already crossed the bridge over Coombe Road (next to Coombe Road station, as was, now houses beside Lloyd Park where the tram turns sharp left (or right, depending which direction you're going)). For some time before this bridge was knocked down it just had a criss-cross of iron girders about two feet apart and otherwise open to the street below. Now that WAS a scary walk.

The Coombe Road bridge was knocked down before my time, though the Croham Road bridge remains intact.

Psychokiller
07-02-2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by eagle mart
It certainly is, used to drink in there before going into Croydon. Now it's turning into an asylum seekers bedsit which'll give them an excuse to stay in the area and make everyone find a new pub to drink in. :hmph:

That's as yet an unconfirmed rumour. Please don't turn this thread into another "let's send the coons and pakis back and sort all of this country's problems out in one foul swoop" thread:veryangry

Oryol
07-02-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
The Coombe Road bridge was knocked down before my time, though the Croham Road bridge remains intact.

So how did you get to the Croham Road bridge then (if coming from Addiscombe)? Crosssing the Coombe Road? Now that's not in the spirit of a disused railway walk!

Psychokiller
07-02-2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Oryol
So how did you get to the Croham Road bridge then (if coming from Addiscombe)? Crosssing the Coombe Road? Now that's not in the spirit of a disused railway walk!
No, we started from where Selsdon Station used to be.

eagle mart
07-02-2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
That's as yet an unconfirmed rumour. Please don't turn this thread into another "let's send the coons and pakis back and sort all of this country's problems out in one foul swoop" thread:veryangry

It never meant it like that at all! Anyone who knows me would know that. Please don't assume or take my words out of context.:veryangry

Psychokiller
07-02-2003, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by eagle mart
It never meant it like that at all! Anyone who knows me would know that. Please don't assume or take my words out of context.:veryangry
I wasn't talking about you personally, I was referring to the BNP voters on here.

AddiscombeEagle
07-02-2003, 01:12 PM
Have always thought Addiscombe started to go downhill when Market Gardens was replaced about 8 years ago.Pikey shops began to take over.

My other fond memory of Addiscombe is going into Gordons toy shop when I was small looking for the latest Star Wars figures. We also got the Millenium Falcon from there.

Bad memories of kebabs from Brothers.:) Only joking, not a bad kebab house.

AddiscombeEagle
07-02-2003, 01:18 PM
PK, you have got me into this, you don't realise how much history there is around you.

These are the gates at Bingham Park and they haven't changed.

AddiscombeEagle
07-02-2003, 01:19 PM
Saying that a big church has been buit next to them.

A Wooden Fish On Wheels
07-02-2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Pistike
...Strange if it is because (given your remarks about it being the smack capital of Croydon), I used to score my drugs as a young lad from a couple of rockers who lived in the flat above it... Paul & Karen?

I used to work in Addiscombe for many a year and used to frequent the following pubs in order of frequency... The Drum and Monkey, The Builders Arms, The Windmill, The Cricketers (the pizza one near the Builders), Louis Diner, The Duke of Gloucester and... The Cherry Orchard (!!!)

Psychokiller
07-02-2003, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by A Wooden Fish On Wheels
Paul & Karen?

I used to work in Addiscombe for many a year and used to frequent the following pubs in order of frequency... The Drum and Monkey, The Builders Arms, The Windmill, The Cricketers (the pizza one near the Builders), Louis Diner, The Duke of Gloucester and... The Cherry Orchard (!!!)

Builders Arms

Summer 2000

CHE GUEVARA!! :D :p

A Wooden Fish On Wheels
07-02-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
...CHE GUEVARA!!... ;) "Look at the f ing state of you" :)

Psychokiller
07-02-2003, 02:27 PM
ROFL!

And the Burgundy shorts! A dedicated follower of fashion!

Del Gland
07-02-2003, 02:31 PM
Wot..no mention of the Beehive? Darts in the 70's with one armed Bill!!

Here's a question for the Addiscombe Massive! I used to go to Ruskin and we had our games lessons in Oaks Rd. From the Sports Pavillion, you could walk over a hill (Lloyd's Park?) and come out at Addiscombe Rd. I remember someone telling me that the hill is actually a burial mound and may be connected to the Great Plague. Is this true or local folklore?

Ruskin Old Boy
07-02-2003, 02:45 PM
That dates from my time at Ruskin ... Steve Kember's empty beer bottles are buried there:D

Pistike
09-02-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by A Wooden Fish On Wheels
Paul & Karen?

Gawd nose! Would have been about 1978. Two hairy arsed rockers and their girlfriends lived there. The blokes got sent down and when one of them got out a couple of years later he moved into my squat in Gipsy Hill. Moved out a few months late moving in the direction of Morocco and I never saw him again.

Were you kicking around Croydon then?

Psychokiller
10-02-2003, 10:50 AM
http://www.tboa.co.uk/slides/tboa1/full/046.jpg
Junction of Lower Addiscombe Road and Warren Road in Victorian Times. The building on the left was until recently a Threshers, but the scrub on the right is now a petrol station.

Kevlon
10-02-2003, 05:40 PM
Thats my road!

The old Threshers place still looks exactly the same.

Thatch
11-02-2003, 02:17 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by A Wooden Fish On Wheels
[B]Paul & Karen?

The Cricketers (the pizza one near the Builders),

Don't you mean The Oval ? Or has it changed it's name since I've last been in there. They did great Pizzas with names like "Beefy Botham" etc

My brother lives in Lebanon Road so we use The Builders a fair bit when I'm over there. Great beer garden, last time I was in there was for The England v Macedonia world cup qualifier in Sept 2001... anyone else in there then?

Strangely enough my brother is planning to move to..... Tunbridge Wells very soon !!! Spooky or what ?
:afro:

Hedgehog
11-02-2003, 05:00 AM
Just caught up with this thread. Great stuff PK and friends. It’s funny seeing how it was, and how it is now, but nothing really of the time I remember it (late 60’s through 1981).

The Dairy mentioned a couple of times has to be the Co-Op or South Suburban bottling place on Lesley Park Road. My Dad worked there his whole working life, and I’m sure he would be happy to know it has been pulled down. He retired around ’84, and there was talk back in them days about them moving out of there. I went with him a couple of times when I was older, and he took me in a pub right opposite, I’m guessing that was the Builders.

My Mum grew up with her parents in Oval Road, which I see from Map quest is around there. They then moved to Long Lane in the council houses opposite the allotments, which were built on about 25 years ago (about a mile from the driving range – Is that still there?). I was born at St. Mary’s and spent the first two years of my life in the house in Long Lane, and my Gran continued to live there till she died in about ’73. Spent a lot of time walking up past the fire station and Ashbuton Park to the shops in Addiscombe.

Shame about the railway line, without sounding like Trolley here, my Mum used to tell me about during the war a rail car with an Ack Ack (sp?) gun used to ride up and down the track behind the afore mentioned allotments, and would take pot shots at the Luftwaffe as they passed over. She never mentioned if they actually ever hit anyone.

Sorry if some of these areas I talk of are not considered Addiscombe, but they seem close enough to mention here.

bald-eagle
12-02-2003, 01:23 PM
Interesting thread.

I have lived in Addiscombe since 1987 and even in that relatively short time things have changed. Kevlon - I used to live in Warren Road untill '92 before I moved all the way to Sundridge Road - the one with Brothers Kebebs at the end. I sometimes go in the Claret so have probably seen/met PK unwittingly. Always thought they were a strange lot in there! Seriously though, the only drawback about the Claret is that it's like drinking in a smokechamber.

The mention of "Dogshit Alley" made me laugh. Back in the '80's I always knew the little alley that leads to Surrey Street from where Beano's is now as "Dogshit Alley". Mind you in the Dog & Bull in those days no-one noticed if you had dogshit all over your shoes anyway :rolleyes:

PK. I assume that you have the 2 volume "Book of Addiscombe"? Is that where some of these pics are from? They are very interesting reading.

Psychokiller
12-02-2003, 01:27 PM
B-E - I have none of the books, but may get them soon. I got the pics from their website www.tboa.co.uk which is set up by our residents association.

If you HAVE bumped into me in Clarets you'd know - I'm the miserable ••••••• in the grey wooly hat who sits in the corner reading his paper! :)

DANGERMOUSE
12-02-2003, 01:33 PM
Are you talking about the Grouse & Claret?

Psychokiller
12-02-2003, 01:35 PM
No, Clarets on Lower Addiscombe Road, behind the Addiscombe Tram Stop which is on the site of the old Bingham Road train station.

Maz
12-02-2003, 01:36 PM
If someone hasn't mentioned this already, could a mod please explain why the glorious Upper Norwood thread has been shunted into the back alley of Down Memory Lane, whilst this thread continues to survive in here?

Nothing against Addiscombe of course (isn't it on the seaside?)

DANGERMOUSE
12-02-2003, 01:36 PM
Never heard of it. Ta, anyway.

Psychokiller
12-02-2003, 01:52 PM
I have been in the Grouse and Claret on Cherry Orchard Road. But it's a pile of poo.

DANGERMOUSE
12-02-2003, 02:23 PM
Exactly. That's why I was a bit confused as to the plaudits it was apparently earning (not to mention it's not Addiscombe).

Psychokiller
12-02-2003, 02:24 PM
Debatable. I would say that Cherry Orchard Road is one of the borders.

DANGERMOUSE
12-02-2003, 02:51 PM
I'd call it East Croydon, but we won't fall out over it. ;)

SIKO
12-02-2003, 03:12 PM
For a while my uncle Ron was the manager of the co-op opposite Cheery Orchard Road.

Concerning the plague burials, form what I have been told Lloyd park was a burial pit, as was certain parts of New Addington and Crown point.

I think i should start a thread on Addington, as this is a great thread

bald-eagle
12-02-2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
If you HAVE bumped into me in Clarets you'd know - I'm the miserable ••••••• in the grey wooly hat who sits in the corner reading his paper! :)

I'll have look out next time I'm in before deciding whether to talk to you or not :D

13-02-2003, 04:07 AM
I tried to post a reply to this excellent thread before but was denied by the stupidities of my isp, aol, and so I ended up writing a paean to Addiscombe that went down the cyber-tubes.
Although I wasn't physically BORN in Addiscombe, I was brought up there. My mum and dad had a house in Pagehurst Road which backed on to Ashburton Park. My grandma and granddad on my mum's side lived a few doors up from us in the same road, whilst my granddad on my dad's side lived what seemed like a long way away in Capri Road over near Woodside railway station. I also had my godmother, two aunties and two great-aunties, plus my uncle on my dad's side, all live in Addiscombe. In fact, the entire team lived there. I went to school for a term or so at Woodside. So it was my home territory and if you did a big thing about people's roots then I would have to say that for me it was and still is Addiscombe.
Which is why it is quite a shocker to read that the Black Horse is a crack-den nowadays. It was just yards from Mr Monk's the Shoe-Shop man and just down from the Cypriot barbers and my granddad would like a quiet half pint of Guinness in there contemplating the odds for the afternoon's racing, and I never recall him saying he needed a 'rock of crystal' to help him back the right gee-gees. That's what's so sad about all the influx of people in the last few years, they've got the humour and culture of a sewer and don't give a shyte about it either, whereas then...oh, well, rose-tinted spectacles and al' that.
That is of course the reason why you all have the misfortune of having to put up with me and my posts on this BBS - because that would be where I would set off from in my bobble hat (some of you may have seen this 8th Wonder) and rattle to support the Palace, stopping off at my uncle and auntie's in Gresham Road, Norwood, so my cousin Paul could take me up to the Park to see the mighty Palace. Paul's lost the habit nowadays but I never have and nor has my auntie Eileen, who always is happy to hear from me on the telephone and she always says: "OOOh John darling, good to hear you, Up The Palace eh, how they been getting on lately?", to which I normally have to reply "Diabolical, Auntie Eileen, but don't worry we'll come good in the end", and she'll say "Course you will, John Darling, we all know the Palace will get it right one day." (I think she confuses me and Crystal Palace sometimes, I really do.)
So Addiscombe Station is no more. Bingham Road station was closed even when I was there so that's real old codger talk, that, but what about Elmers End station. I expect that's gone too. Do you remember you had to go over a sort of a bridge with, like, an oil refinery on one side and little old Elmers End station on the other. I often wondered who actually used Elmers End station and dreamt that it was a family called the Elmers and that they owned all the land and decided to have a station so they could get home.
Good old Addiscombe. I love you.

Psychokiller
13-02-2003, 08:26 AM
It's good to see that there's such an interest for local history! I thought it was a trainspotter like hobby and therefore kept my interest well under wraps.

Has anyone ever used the local studies section in Croydon library? I tried to have a look in there once, but as I walked in was accosted by some middle aged anorak asking me what I wanted and basically trying to get rid of me. I was under the impression the libraries were for everyone, and paid for by our council tax!

DANGERMOUSE
13-02-2003, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Has anyone ever used the local studies section in Croydon library? I tried to have a look in there once, but as I walked in was accosted by some middle aged anorak asking me what I wanted and basically trying to get rid of me. I was under the impression the libraries were for everyone, and paid for by our council tax! I've not been up there for years, but I basically wrote my dissertation (The Urban and Economic Development of Croydon: Exploring the Relationship between the Town's Growth and its Proximity to London :p ) up there. You had top sign in and out, basically because that section is reference only (not lending) and much of the material is rare, unique, valuable, delicate, and so on. If you are interested, it is worth checking out - I might even let you have my bibliography if you ask nicely! ;):S:

Psychokiller
13-02-2003, 08:44 AM
Well, when I went in there and said I just wanted to have a look at historical publications about my local area, the poxy geek wanted to know WHY?! After being interrogated I just said "well, fu¢k you then!" and walked out.

Though he is typical of a Croydon Council employee, right from the Council Leader down to the lowest paid Dustman they are a bunch of useless, incompetent tossers.

DANGERMOUSE
13-02-2003, 08:46 AM
Apart from the traffic wardens, who are particularly adept at screwing motorists. :rolleyes:

Psychokiller
13-02-2003, 08:49 AM
Traffic wardens are useless tossers on a national basis though.

crockett
13-02-2003, 09:07 AM
Which pubs did you frequent? I often use the Builders Arms, the Cricketers and Clarets (which has 12 different guest ales per week!) [/B][/QUOTE]

That's worrying so do I ? Clarets often on a Saturday before the game, good beer and nice & close to the bookies, I'm sure there is a track being worn out between Clarets & William Hill ! Quite a few local people don't know of Claret's existance, I usually describe it as next to Welcome Friends Chinese Restaurant which people do tend to know.

Occasionally the Builders for a few pints of Fullers, most of the time in the Cricketers, as you mentioned it's being refurbished this week, certainly improved again since Alan & Carol have taken over, don't want to talk it up too much as may get too many new clients which will spoil certain things!

PK, I reckon you're probably too yong but did you go in the Cricketers when it was run by Danny & Doreen, gone and sadly missed but never forgotten??

Psychokiller
13-02-2003, 09:12 AM
Crockett - I tend to go in Clarets early on a Saturday to read my paper over a pint and a bag of crisps! I'm rarely in there in the evening these days as I'm cutting down on the booze.

I moved to Addiscombe in 2000 so have only known the management of the Cricketers since the last lot. I stopped going in there when the scouser ran the place because it became the sort of pub where they serve their "regulars" first, no matter how long everyone else has been waiting. Since the new lot took over it's got much better.

bald-eagle
13-02-2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by beestey So Addiscombe Station is no more. Bingham Road station was closed even when I was there so that's real old codger talk, that, but what about Elmers End station. I expect that's gone too. Do you remember you had to go over a sort of a bridge with, like, an oil refinery on one side and little old Elmers End station on the other. I often wondered who actually used Elmers End station and dreamt that it was a family called the Elmers and that they owned all the land and decided to have a station so they could get home.
Good old Addiscombe. I love you. [/B]

Beestey, How did you end up in the devil's land after starting in the green green fields of Adiscombe??

Elmers end is now at the end of one of the tramlink routes and is therefore quite a busy little station during the peak hours. I often use it if I'm going to Lewisham. I think the "oil refinery" was Bolloms Paint Factory which is on the hump back bridge over the tracks (had a huge fire the other year which you could clearly see from my rooflight in Addiscombe!) The fields next to the station are now inhabited by a Tesco Superstore and the other side of the station backs onto South Norwood Country Park, with it's abundant flora, wildlife, used durex and needles!

Psychokiller
13-02-2003, 11:56 AM
I was going to start a Thornton Heath thread, since it's where I grew up, but there's not enough pics of the damn place on the net :(

Pistike
13-02-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by beestey
...go over a sort of a bridge with, like, an oil refinery on one side and little old Elmers End station on the other.

I had a holiday job at some engineering company on land adjacent to Elmers End station in the mid 1970s.

I was the stock mans assistant which involved making his tea and sitting around whilst he took the píss out of me for hours on end.

I was there for about 2 weeks and can only remember handing over 4 steel rods to some bloke wearing welders gloves.

Pistike
13-02-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
I was going to start a Thornton Heath thread, since it's where I grew up, but there's not enough pics of the damn place on the net :(

Chuck in Norbury and West Croydon then.

Hedgehog
14-02-2003, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by Pistike
I had a holiday job at some engineering company on land adjacent to Elmers End station in the mid 1970s.

I was the stock mans assistant which involved making his tea and sitting around whilst he took the píss out of me for hours on end.

I was there for about 2 weeks and can only remember handing over 4 steel rods to some bloke wearing welders gloves.
That would be Muirhead's. I worked there from '78 to '81. It was probably the main reason I left for America. The place drained the last few drops of enthusiasm I had for engineering out of me. :bash:

BTW, there was a LOT of people working there that made tea and sat around all day. Only good thing was I made a couple of good friends there that I still keep in touch with today.

Ruskin Old Boy
14-02-2003, 04:43 AM
Didn't Dick Graham work for Muirheads at some point? I seem to recall that he had a job there as Sports Manager.

Hedgehog
14-02-2003, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by Ruskin Old Boy
Didn't Dick Graham work for Muirheads at some point? I seem to recall that he had a job there as Sports Manager.
They did have a pretty big sports club at one time including football teams. By the time I got there, all that had been cut off as cost cutting measures. :(

Away Day Eagle
24-09-2007, 08:25 PM
http://www.tboa.co.uk/slides/tboa1/full/030.jpg

The scene of our best ever show at Millwall away :p

imashed
24-09-2007, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
We live in very close proximity then!

Yes, when I was at school we used to climb the wall by Ashburton road and walk down the old rail line to the edge of Lloyd Park. There was another, more scary walk of that disused line in South Croydon which involved crossing a disused train bridge about 70ft high across Croham Road!
Pk what school did you go too ,when i went to ashburton high in the 80's we use to walk that tunnel to lloyds park,i used to live in cedar road so i remember most of them pubs as i was just cutting my teeth in the drinking world from about 86

Psychokiller
24-09-2007, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by imashed
Pk what school did you go too ,when i went to ashburton high in the 80's we use to walk that tunnel to lloyds park,i used to live in cedar road so i remember most of them pubs as i was just cutting my teeth in the drinking world from about 86

I went to Lanfranc 85-90, but we used to visit the tunnel (and the chalk pits in Kenley) when we bunked off school

RickyB
24-09-2007, 08:44 PM
Miss Ljumovic :love:

will hung
24-09-2007, 08:46 PM
Lived above a shop on the Lower Addiscombe Road opposite the old Bingham Road station when I was a boy, great days. I remember when Claret's opened; it was originally called Jester's and was owned by a copper who later got tried for importing coke but got off.

Psychokiller
24-09-2007, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by RickyB
Miss Ljumovic :love:

You mean Miss Looney Witch? She rolled up at Lanfranc around 1986. Me and my mates used to throw eggs at her and her husband whilst they played tennis at Trumble Gardens.

eagle mart
24-09-2007, 08:46 PM
What have you done to the Blackhorse you bastards?!?

You seen the new development in its place?

imashed
24-09-2007, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Hedgehog
That would be Muirhead's. I worked there from '78 to '81. It was probably the main reason I left for America. The place drained the last few drops of enthusiasm I had for engineering out of me. :bash:

BTW, there was a LOT of people working there that made tea and sat around all day. Only good thing was I made a couple of good friends there that I still keep in touch with today.
HH you might of known norman chapman he worked there and was
a lodger for years at my nan and grandads he passed away though about 7-8 years ago

Away Day Eagle
24-09-2007, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by eagle mart
What have you done to the Blackhorse you bastards?!?

You seen the new development in its place?

:(

I know the developer is a client of ours.

We declined to tender for this particular project.

imashed
24-09-2007, 09:06 PM
PK great thread even though its been going since 03 remember many of the pictures,
lived opposite the black horse late 80's with my brother above my mums shop she used to own then,started drinking in the black horse
when it was run by a big irish man i think was called declan/shemas/sean???
then by a couple and they use to do the meat raffle on a sunday after playing football we would all meet up there and eat the roast spuds from the bar which no doubt had there fair share of piss on them.
great days

Away Day Eagle
24-09-2007, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by imashed
PK great thread even though its been going since 03 remember many of the pictures,
lived opposite the black horse late 80's with my brother above my mums shop she used to own then,started drinking in the black horse
when it was run by a big irish man i think was called declan/shemas/sean???
then by a couple and they use to do the meat raffle on a sunday after playing football we would all meet up there and eat the roast spuds from the bar which no doubt had there fair share of piss on them.
great days

Which shop ?

I thought it was just houses opposite The Black Horse ?

Psychokiller
24-09-2007, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by Away Day Eagle
Which shop ?

I thought it was just houses opposite The Black Horse ?

There's a row of shops starting with Barclays Bank, and another row opposite that starting with Coughlans Bakers.

RickyB
24-09-2007, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
You mean Miss Looney Witch? She rolled up at Lanfranc around 1986. Me and my mates used to throw eggs at her and her husband whilst they played tennis at Trumble Gardens. heh - we called her Looney Bitch when she was at Kingsdale.

I remember her being quite hot though, in a 14 year old kind of way :)

Trumble Gardens; is that the one on Bridgestock Road? I used to play Tennis there in around 1989/90.

Psychokiller
24-09-2007, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by RickyB
heh - we called her Looney Bitch when she was at Kingsdale.

I remember her being quite hot though, in a 14 year old kind of way :)

Trumble Gardens; is that the one on Bridgestock Road? I used to play Tennis there in around 1989/90.

Aye, that's Trumble Gardens. There was two parkies, one a confirmed alcoholic called Bill, and another one, an aggressive little bastard known locally as Pegleg. There was something decidedly dodgy about those two.

Away Day Eagle
24-09-2007, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
There's a row of shops starting with Barclays Bank, and another row opposite that starting with Coughlans Bakers.

I can picture it now.

I think I took imashed's post too literally.

Good call earlier re: Abbey National cashpoint.

Could even withdraw £300 in them days ;) :p :D

I think we should have a daisy's breakfast one morning and all meet up.

:p

imashed
24-09-2007, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Away Day Eagle
Which shop ?

I thought it was just houses opposite The Black Horse ?
the hairdressers next to the paper shop and jewllers

RickyB
24-09-2007, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Away Day Eagle
I can picture it now.

I think I took imashed's post too literally.

Good call earlier re: Abbey National cashpoint.

Could even withdraw £300 in them days ;) :p :D

I think we should have a daisy's breakfast one morning and all meet up.

:p Sounds good - I'm only 5 mins away down Blackhorse Lane :)

philsick
24-09-2007, 09:29 PM
I,ve lived in bingham rd and lower addiscombe road,near the alma.Anyone remember the old record shop under the bridge.Bought most of my early punk singles there.Used to drink cider on the bench opposite the kebab shop on the green,when i was about 15.There was an offy right opposite selling a brilliant selection of belgian trappiste beer.

jone-zee
24-09-2007, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by philsick
I,ve lived in bingham rd and lower addiscombe road,near the alma.Anyone remember the old record shop under the bridge.Bought most of my early punk singles there.Used to drink cider on the bench opposite the kebab shop on the green,when i was about 15.There was an offy right opposite selling a brilliant selection of belgian trappiste beer. LOL can relate to that more Bob Marley/Trojan songs though ;)

will hung
24-09-2007, 09:39 PM
I remember the record shop - I bought Billion Dollar Babies and For Your Pleasure there circa 1973, there was a kiosk under the bridge - subsequently demolished - that sold newspapers and fags run by some old geezer called Jack. I lived near Ozzie's fish and chip shop and remember fancying both the sisiters that worked there.

Psychokiller
24-09-2007, 09:42 PM
Ossie's chips were the most foul, nastiest chips I've ever had the misfortune of tasting.

Away Day Eagle
24-09-2007, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by jone-zee
LOL can relate to that more Bob Marley/Trojan songs though ;)

What about chick-a-boom records ?

jone-zee
24-09-2007, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by Away Day Eagle
What about chick-a-boom records ?

What a place that was Punk Reggae Headshaking..... anything!! (except Brotherhood of Man ;) )

Mike Chestfield
24-09-2007, 09:53 PM
Lived in Ashling Road from 1958 to 1973, the record shop was owned by Peter Collins who lived in same road. Started watching Palace in 1962 whilst at Stanley Tech after Woodside.

Delivered papers in Pagehurst ,Widehurst ,and Kingscote and Sherwood Roads for Ford Gill , opposite Barclays ,and did Saturday job in Waters greengrocers, now Abbey.

Happy Days!
Escaped down to Chestfield for sun, sea and Kent cricket at Canterbury, some 5 years ago.

eagle mart
24-09-2007, 10:32 PM
Imashed. Did you used to play for the Blackhorse?

GodstoneEagle
25-09-2007, 01:55 AM
grim

LeeH
25-09-2007, 08:23 AM
Grew up in Addiscombe, firstly on Stockbury road (Backing onto Tollgate primary so was a quick journey home after school) and then Claremont Road, where my parents still live and this now is my base for all home matches :D
some of my memories of growing up in Addiscombe are:

The Leslie Arms - used to be my regular. One of the landlords (Dougie) and his missus left there and took over a pub in East London where he was threatened with a shotgun and robbed. He got out of the pub game. The other landlord I knew (Ricky) stayed there for a while and then moved onto the Blue Anchor in Sth Croydon.
The Black Horse - very close to home, first pub I remember with CCTV and a copper.
Brothers Kebabs (when the Brothers used to run it!) - ahhh, super hot chilli cause :p
El Greco chippy - now a Chinese chippy I think
Ashburton fair, it was violent then so god knows what it's like now!
Mace corner shop at the top of Longhurst Road. We used to by 'singles' from there as a kid at 10p a go and allsorts of other goodies, like 20/20, cider, etc :D - incidentally the son of the owner of Mace was shot dead in Peckham by an armed robber many moons ago.
The little record shop up in the shops on the high street. Mentioned on another thread.
The old post office building, now a card shop :( - used to do 'penny for the guy' outside there every year and make a fortune.
The train line - Addiscombe to Elmers End. Used to hop rides on them all the time (when the trains were just navy blue things with loads of small compartments and manual doors!)
Ashburton playing fields (for a bit of breakdancing :D and football)_
The gypsies that lived on the edge of Ashburton playing fields for months!
The Joiners - is that classed as Addiscombe?
The flats down Teevan Road, on Teevan Close. Rented one of them and then it was bought by the tram people so got moved on - boo!
Gordons Toy shop - still there.
Clarets - used to be a mate's drinking hole so was often in there.
Pumping my bike tyres up at the garage that used to be on the corner of Lower Addiscombe Road and Shirley Road.
The 7-11, which sold those mental thick ice drinks you couldn't suck through a straw!

am sure that there's a thousand and one other things but as my boss is gawping at me, I'll stop :D

simplex
25-09-2007, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by LeeH


El Greco chippy - now a Chinese chippy I think




I knew the son ..cant remember his name .. nice bloke if not a bit flash.. back when it was considered cool to look like George Micheal.

simplex
25-09-2007, 08:40 AM
I had my first Joint in the hut by the tennis crts in Bingham rd

LeeH
25-09-2007, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by simplex
I knew the son ..cant remember his name .. nice bloke if not a bit flash.. back when it was considered cool to look like George Micheal.
Was it Zak? Went to Shirley

stevek
25-09-2007, 11:40 AM
I grew up in Shirley, but spent lots of my childhood in Addiscombe as my parents’ best friends lived in Northampton Road. We even lived with them for a couple of months when moving house – four adults and 6 children aged from (about) 18 to 5 all in a four bed semi. Many happy memories of the park between Northampton Road and Bingham Road walking their dog Bess. I also went to three weddings and a funeral at the Catholic church on Bingham Road. When older I used to drink in the Cricketers (the one on Shirley Road) a lot.

Hedgie
25-09-2007, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by philsick
I,ve lived in bingham rd and lower addiscombe road,near the alma.Anyone remember the old record shop under the bridge.Bought most of my early punk singles there.Used to drink cider on the bench opposite the kebab shop on the green,when i was about 15.There was an offy right opposite selling a brilliant selection of belgian trappiste beer.

Musictown, wasn't it? Bought loads of stuff there and was really sad when they closed. Lived for the first 25 years of my life in Addiscombe, only moving away briefly for the first year at uni and permanently when they started building Tramlink. My parents still live there so I'm back there all the time. Sadly the place just isn't the same any more, and it's heading downhill rapidly. So many memories brought back in this thread.

spiny norman
25-09-2007, 07:24 PM
Anyone recall the grafitti on the side of the old Post Office in Teevan Road?
"poxy spain" in white,it was there for years,dunno if it still is,and I was puzzled with that statement.
Also used El Greco,and remember that Rat Scabies used it,apparently he was living in Northampton Road at the time.

Away Day Eagle
25-09-2007, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by spiny norman
Anyone recall the grafitti on the side of the old Post Office in Teevan Road?
"poxy spain" in white,it was there for years,dunno if it still is,and I was puzzled with that statement.
Also used El Greco,and remember that Rat Scabies used it,apparently he was living in Northampton Road at the time.

spiny - I don't but I wasn't from the area.

As an aside, was there any Palace grafitti in the area that anyone can recall ?

Or did you leave it to us lot in Sutton/Carshalton ;)

:lux: :lux: :lux:

eagle mart
25-09-2007, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by simplex
I knew the son ..cant remember his name .. nice bloke if not a bit flash.. back when it was considered cool to look like George Micheal.

Adam. And his sister called.... errr Zoe.

Used to play Shinobi in Kebab King and that Euopean cup football in El Greco.

Anybody remember the story of the kid called Kevin who went missing from errr (road off Blackhorse Lane). He went to Sperrings with about 30p to buy something for his mum and never came back. He was featured on the European video of 'runaway train'.

Remember the Roundtable who had a father christmas come round all the roads one evening before Christmas collecting money for charity!

will hung
25-09-2007, 07:59 PM
Northampton Road was where members of the Johnny Moped band - I remember going in the local bookies with Slimey Toad (and winning)

imashed
25-09-2007, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by eagle mart
Imashed. Did you used to play for the Blackhorse?
no we played for another team and use to go back there on a sunday after the match but my mate's brother martin benatar and a few of his mates john riley use to play for them

imashed
25-09-2007, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by LeeH
Grew up in Addiscombe, firstly on Stockbury road (Backing onto Tollgate primary so was a quick journey home after school) and then Claremont Road, where my parents still live and this now is my base for all home matches :D
some of my memories of growing up in Addiscombe are:

The Leslie Arms - used to be my regular. One of the landlords (Dougie) and his missus left there and took over a pub in East London where he was threatened with a shotgun and robbed. He got out of the pub game. The other landlord I knew (Ricky) stayed there for a while and then moved onto the Blue Anchor in Sth Croydon.
The Black Horse - very close to home, first pub I remember with CCTV and a copper.
Brothers Kebabs (when the Brothers used to run it!) - ahhh, super hot chilli cause :p
El Greco chippy - now a Chinese chippy I think
Ashburton fair, it was violent then so god knows what it's like now!
Mace corner shop at the top of Longhurst Road. We used to by 'singles' from there as a kid at 10p a go and allsorts of other goodies, like 20/20, cider, etc :D - incidentally the son of the owner of Mace was shot dead in Peckham by an armed robber many moons ago.
The little record shop up in the shops on the high street. Mentioned on another thread.
The old post office building, now a card shop :( - used to do 'penny for the guy' outside there every year and make a fortune.
The train line - Addiscombe to Elmers End. Used to hop rides on them all the time (when the trains were just navy blue things with loads of small compartments and manual doors!)
Ashburton playing fields (for a bit of breakdancing :D and football)_
The gypsies that lived on the edge of Ashburton playing fields for months!
The Joiners - is that classed as Addiscombe?
The flats down Teevan Road, on Teevan Close. Rented one of them and then it was bought by the tram people so got moved on - boo!
Gordons Toy shop - still there.
Clarets - used to be a mate's drinking hole so was often in there.
Pumping my bike tyres up at the garage that used to be on the corner of Lower Addiscombe Road and Shirley Road.
The 7-11, which sold those mental thick ice drinks you couldn't suck through a straw!

am sure that there's a thousand and one other things but as my boss is gawping at me, I'll stop :D
i remember buying single fags from the mace when i was at school ashburton and years later on a sunday when we use to have a kick about we use to buy can of Pils and they would put it in a paper bag due to it being out of pub hours

Eaglette
26-09-2007, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by imashed
no we played for another team and use to go back there on a sunday after the match but my mate's brother martin benatar and a few of his mates john riley use to play for them
My era at the blackhorse with those guys, in fact Riley a season ticket palace fan. Those were the days.

(swore I would never ever say that sort of thing!
:eek:)

LeeH
26-09-2007, 08:02 AM
just remembered two other establishments - there was a very small barbers on the high street and another hairdressers called Omar - I think the hairdresser is still there but under another name?

LeeH
26-09-2007, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by Away Day Eagle
As an aside, was there any Palace grafitti in the area that anyone can recall ?


:D The best bit of grafitti (unfortunately non palace related) I can remember as a kid was on the walk to Palace on Albert Road (by the Croydon Arena) and it was just in white writing - 'South Norwood Soul Patrol' :p I think it was there for my entire childhood!

dowieslovechild
27-03-2011, 08:12 PM
The Leslie Arms - What was the name of it's small club bit on the side, had a specific name in the mid-late 80s. Remember seeing Tony Blackburn on a soul night in there when he was DJing for Radio London. I just can't remember the club name and its really doing my head in trying to remember it!

Happy Dayz
27-03-2011, 09:05 PM
no we played for another team and use to go back there on a sunday after the match but my mate's brother martin benatar and a few of his mates john riley use to play for them

I used to hang round with Martin Benatar and his brother Paul! Still friends with him now.

I used to live on the new estate off Long Lane and used to walk to school (Ashburton) with Simon Osborn.

dowieslovechild
27-03-2011, 09:18 PM
I answered my own question. Leslie Arms was called Sgt.Peppers for a while, back in the 80s.

Herr Colonpharter
27-03-2011, 09:40 PM
I answered my own question. Leslie Arms was called Sgt.Peppers for a while, back in the 80s.

It was also called SHOCKS for a while.