Shipperley has signed [Archive]

Riccardo

20-03-2003, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by cpfcben
we have been here before and we don't have that kind of money to waste

good 1st division player though

Exactly.....good first division player to get us promoted next season.

But if Jordan would rather spend wages on Akinbiyi, Adebola et al, well that's up to him. He runs our club.

boxing francis

20-03-2003, 04:52 PM

Wimbledon would let him go for less than £1m there skint......

Sussex Eagle

20-03-2003, 05:20 PM

Yes, 1 million is too much. I suppose he's not enough of an old hero to ruin memorys. I do think he's up to the job, but I would prefer to see a young team, with academy and other young talents build up. Another new bunch of journeymen is not what we need if we have a new manager next season.

forsells no1 fan

20-03-2003, 05:27 PM

how about 1 million plus akinbiyi?

Al From Bromley

20-03-2003, 05:30 PM

Even Ronaldo can't get on the end of nothing. We need a decent provider, not a goalscorer. Ours will score goals if they get the service.

Geezer

20-03-2003, 05:32 PM

How about that Williams chap from colchester or that Taylor lad who used to play for charlton?

selhurst

20-03-2003, 05:33 PM

As already has been said, £1m is far too much...
how about a straight swap for akinbiyi?

20-03-2003, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Al's Rose Tinted Specs
Even Ronaldo can't get on the end of nothing. We need a decent provider, not a goalscorer. Ours will score goals if they get the service.

Oh come on, you seriously that our strickers don't get enough service??
Getting Ships would get the goals and I have no doubt he'll do it for us again if given the chance. Pricey wage wise tho':(

limited_edition

20-03-2003, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by selhurst
As already has been said, £1m is far too much...
how about a straight swap for akinbiyi? They'll never go for that. Throw in Adebola, Thomson and Granville as well and they might fall for it.

Trev would ruin Ronaldo. He'd play him at left back.

Sussex Eagle

20-03-2003, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by limited_edition
They'll never go for that. Throw in Adebola, Thomson and Granville as well and they might fall for it.

:D (although please note I like Adebola)

limited_edition

20-03-2003, 05:49 PM

Adebola's ok, but his wages are far too high. On the pitch, Shipps would more than compensate for his loss.

Al From Bromley

20-03-2003, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by mrdance
Oh come on, you seriously that our strickers don't get enough service??
(

....er, yes.

Lords Eagle

20-03-2003, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by forsells no1 fan
how about 1 million plus akinbiyi?
Doesn't that make Shipps worth about £2m? ;)

Gooders

20-03-2003, 06:16 PM

I thought he was anonymous the other night.

However, if he's scored 19 goals in that Franchise team he must be playing quite well.

But a million quid? No chance.

Latvian

20-03-2003, 07:19 PM

How old is he?

Latvian

20-03-2003, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by forsells no1 fan
how about 1 million plus akinbiyi?

Beat me to it!

BringBackSasa

20-03-2003, 09:48 PM

Solid 7/10 target man. Always quite liked him.

I reckon Wimbledon would accept less than £500,000. Is AJ still the biggest 1st Division signing this season? (and that was an 'inflated' £750,000, as always happens with swaps & makeweights, remember the Gareth Taylor, Veart & Tuttle price tags?).

It would be too sensible to happen though, and SJ sure ain't buying another striker.

arussell

21-03-2003, 12:18 AM

Shipperley is 28.

He'd still love to come back to Palace (it nearly happened a year or so ago) and 750k would probably secure his services.

SHiggins

21-03-2003, 09:43 AM

No way. Lets get some players from the lower league and not look backwards.

Daddy Long

21-03-2003, 09:49 AM

I would like to see Shipperley back at Palace. But only if we cleared out some dead wood first...Adebola, Akinbiyi and Whelan need to go.

Mal Come Ally Son

21-03-2003, 03:57 PM

1fe0

Originally posted by Supa Ol
And we never rejected him. Venables sold him to raise cash because we had a cheap replacement in Matt Svensson. When Svensson got injured we then had to bring in Lee Bradbury for the same amount we had raised through Shipperley's sale. Great bit of business that was. NOT.

Just so that I have this straight - at the start of the process we had a central striker and at the end of the process we had an inferior central striker. And to get that result there were three transfers. And Venables got a percentage of each of then, I understand.

Yes - I know it's old news, but I thought I'd post it just in case anyone ever forgets what Venables did to this club.

Bandstand

24-03-2003, 11:19 AM

An even better buy would be to bring back Marcus Bent. Far better than Ships and we,ed get him for about £750,000 . :p

SARN

24-03-2003, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by arussell
Shipperley is 28.

He'd still love to come back to Palace (it nearly happened a year or so ago) and 750k would probably secure his services.

Would he really? Do you know this for a fact! I would love to see Shipps back where he belongs and think he would do a fantastic job for us. You know you will always get 110% from Shipps, unlike some other prima donnas currently swanning about at Selhurst.

75points

30-03-2003, 07:35 PM

Rob Hulse - better player more mobile and cheaper all round.

358 Eagle

31-03-2003, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Bandstand
An even better buy would be to bring back Marcus Bent. Far better than Ships and we,ed get him for about £750,000 . :p

Good call, seems Ispwich are letting most players go for around the million mark! But is that a Million more than we have to spend? If we could i would bite their hands off!

917L

01-04-2003, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by Supa Ol
And we never rejected him. Venables sold him to raise cash because we had a cheap replacement in Matt Svensson. When Svensson got injured we then had to bring in Lee Bradbury for the same amount we had raised through Shipperley's sale. Great bit of business that was. NOT.
i think Bradbury actually cost far more than we got for Shipperley.

As Cleon says we could have brought him back before he went to Wimpledon but SJ decided to waste his money on AA instead! (ok so the timings arent exact)

we_8_brighton

16-04-2003, 10:59 AM

shipperly is a class act id welcome him back with welcome arms. he has a physical presence like adebola but also scores goals!

RDSdaEAGLE

16-04-2003, 11:28 AM

Marcus Bent was on his way to Fulham for £500,000 until they pulled out of the deal, due to Tigana going.

Ipswich are in £54.4m debt, so we could just get him...but I think he'd be aiming for a Premiership team.

RednBlue

16-04-2003, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by BringBackSasa
......and that was an 'inflated' £750,000, as always happens with swaps & makeweights, remember the Gareth Taylor, Veart & Tuttle price tags
Carl Veart was not a makeweight. He was a GOAL MACHINE :p :p

Riccardo

16-04-2003, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by RDSdaEAGLE
Marcus Bent was on his way to Fulham for £500,000 until they pulled out of the deal, due to Tigana going.

Ipswich are in £54.4m debt, so we could just get him...but I think he'd be aiming for a Premiership team.

We could offer Al from Bromley and one of PK's potted plants ??

Tony

16-04-2003, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by RDSdaEAGLE

Ipswich are in £54.4m debt, so we could just get him...but I think he'd be aiming for a Premiership team.

£54.4m :eek:

How on earth did they manage that?

Grim Reaper

24-04-2003, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by Supa Ol
And we never rejected him. Venables sold him to raise cash because we had a cheap replacement in Matt Svensson. When Svensson got injured we then had to bring in Lee Bradbury for the same amount we had raised through Shipperley's sale. Great bit of business that was. NOT.

Good point - I forgot that was the order of things. I always saw Bradders as The Shipp's replacement but it was Svennson. To be fair, Svenner did sort of come good in the end (at which point we had to sell him!) Well done for your educational post.

As for the Shipp, I'd gladly have him back.

358 Eagle

24-04-2003, 08:48 AM

I`m all for Marcus Bent - but if Jordan doesnt move soon you can guarentee he`ll be off somewhere in the summer! He`s a steel at that sort of price

pedro

10-05-2003, 05:34 PM

The only reason that Ipswich would take £500,000 for Bent is because his wages are ridiculously high and they need to get him off the wage bill asap. By reducing his transfer fee it allows any interested clubs to put the money they have saved towards making his financial package as favourable as possible. With this in mind I think you can safely take Palace out of the equation and look to the likes of Spurs and West Ham (if they stay up).

wholethedougout

01-06-2003, 12:35 PM

YES PLEASE!
I wish...

Trolley

01-06-2003, 01:15 PM

If I have successfully "Read" the "Mindset" of Mr Kember with regard to the manner in which he will play the game from offensive positions, "Mr Shipperley" will certianly NOT figure in his thoughts, neither for that matter will "Mr Adebola".

The Vicar

01-06-2003, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Trolley
If I have successfully "Read" the "Mindset" of Mr Kember with regard to the manner in which he will play the game from offensive positions, "Mr Shipperley" will certianly NOT figure in his thoughts, neither for that matter will "Mr Adebola".

Quite right, too, although I might consider keeping Adebola around as a sub.

wholethedougout

01-06-2003, 03:44 PM

Besides! he is a decent footballer and from last season alone we can see he is a proven goalscorer!

Riccardo

06-06-2003, 10:06 AM

Now the Might Milton Keynes have gone into administration should we aim to get Mr Shipperley on the cheap ?

Cleon

06-06-2003, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by Riccardo
Now the Might Milton Keynes have gone into administration should we aim to get Mr Shipperley on the cheap ?

On a free I should think. A great replacement 'target man' as we've lost Adebola and are trying to lose Akinbiyi.

Nelson Muntz

06-06-2003, 10:14 AM

I'd have him back.

nookiebear

06-06-2003, 10:16 AM

I might be wrong but didn't Kember and Jordan say they aren't interested in Shipperley at the Fans Forum. Or did I just imagine that?

Riccardo

06-06-2003, 10:25 AM

I'd love to know who Mr Kember is interested in......it seems to me that himself and Jordan aim to cull the whole team without getting replacements in.

I know I'm not giving them much time, I'm just worried that we'll mention a player before we sign them and give Birmingham/Charlton etc. a chance to steal the player from us.

Why can't we just sign a couple of players to make me happy so that I don't have to keep on taking these tablets for my nerves ?

Skin Up

06-06-2003, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by nookiebear
I might be wrong but didn't Kember and Jordan say they aren't interested in Shipperley at the Fans Forum. Or did I just imagine that?

Dunno, but it's possible you could have imagined it, you were in a world of your own.

On topic yes please to Ships and Connelly but I don't think we'll get either.

Riccardo

06-06-2003, 11:54 AM

I thought that Nigel Reo-Coker was pretty impressive when we played them. If they're in proper administration we could get all three for £750k.

Wages might be an issue, but if we're getting rid of Akinbiyi, Adebola, et al we should have freed us some of the wage budget ?

Skin Up

06-06-2003, 11:59 AM

Everyone (players, management, agents ect) uses June as an holiday really, I would expect to see any major transfer stuff till July.

Riccardo

06-06-2003, 12:40 PM

I know, I'm just tetchy.

Beanie

06-06-2003, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Riccardo
I'd love to know who Mr Kember is interested in......it seems to me that himself and Jordan aim to cull the whole team without getting replacements in.

I know I'm not giving them much time, I'm just worried that we'll mention a player before we sign them and give Birmingham/Charlton etc. a chance to steal the player from us.

Aren't these two paragraphs a bit of a conflict?

You want to know who they are interested in, but don't want to give others a chance to steal them. How do we achieve this? :hmph: Telepathy? :eek:

Icy

06-06-2003, 12:57 PM

Ships and Connely togeather for £1M. :p

Riccardo

06-06-2003, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by Beanie
Aren't these two paragraphs a bit of a conflict?

You want to know who they are interested in, but don't want to give others a chance to steal them. How do we achieve this? :hmph: Telepathy? :eek:

How about just signing them ?

Psychokiller

06-06-2003, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Trolley
If I have successfully "Read" the "Mindset" of Mr Kember with regard to the manner in which he will play the game from offensive positions, "Mr Shipperley" will certianly NOT figure in his thoughts, neither for that matter will "Mr Adebola".

"Mr Adebola" is hardly a "lump who relies on the ball" being "hoofed" up to him though! He's "quite skillful" on the "ground" running with the "ball".

Disco

06-06-2003, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Riccardo
I'd love to know who Mr Kember is interested in......it seems to me that himself and Jordan aim to cull the whole team without getting replacements in.

I'm a little nervous in SK saying that having four players returning from long term injuries is like four new signings, that we'll end up just going with our four "new boys" and that'll be that!:(

Jimbo ?

06-06-2003, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Disco
I'm a little nervous in SK saying that having four players returning from long term injuries is like four new signings, that we'll end up just going with our four "new boys" and that'll be that!:(

yeah i agree - it looks like a bad sign that we will get no one or atleast no one of a high standard!

Beanie

06-06-2003, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by Jimbo ?
yeah i agree - it looks like a bad sign that we will get no one or atleast no one of a high standard!

This type of commnet is frequently made by managers having players return from long term injuries, it's not unique to Kember. They have a point as well - there are three players effectively added to the squad we didn't have the vast majority of last season - just LIKE signing new players.

Jimbo ?

06-06-2003, 03:50 PM

hardly a crowd pleaser - bringing in someone new and exciting to find out about or to watch out for

kolinkins

06-06-2003, 04:37 PM

after what SK has said in a recent interview, where he stated that he wanted a big striker who could head the ball and hold it up, i think Shipps or Alan Lee will be high on SK's summer target list.

Leap of faith

07-06-2003, 09:49 PM

Shipps for half a mill now that franachise are in admin'

18mcpalace

09-06-2003, 07:56 AM

Following the last post from "Leap of Faith" really.

This may sound cold and callous but I feel that we should really try and exploit Wimbledon, now that they have fallen into administration. They have a number of good, young players in addition to one of the best striking duos in the division (Shipperley and Connolly).

I would like us to try and obtain some of these players very cheaply using the 700,000 we are likely to receive from Mullins and strengthen the squad overall.

sydnsteve

09-06-2003, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by 18mcpalace
Following the last post from "Leap of Faith" really.

This may sound cold and callous but I feel that we should really try and exploit Wimbledon, now that they have fallen into administration. They have a number of good, young players in addition to one of the best striking duos in the division (Shipperley and Connolly).

I would like us to try and obtain some of these players very cheaply using the 700,000 we are likely to receive from Mullins and strengthen the squad overall.

Like everyone slagged clubs off for doing to us, in fact. Funny old world.

Lords Eagle

09-06-2003, 03:12 PM

If all Hayden is worth is £700k, then Shipps is certainly not worth 1/2 to 1 mill.

firesign

09-06-2003, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Beanie
This type of commnet is frequently made by managers having players return from long term injuries, it's not unique to Kember. They have a point as well - there are three players effectively added to the squad we didn't have the vast majority of last season - just LIKE signing new players.

Fair point, but given that we will probably end up with 3 or 4 other players injured the net gain will be zero. The whole point of a squad is that on any given weekend every professional club up and down the country has at least 10% of its players unavailable due to injury.

Chickereagle

09-06-2003, 03:21 PM

From today's CPFRIS

When it comes to landing a new striker, Kember won't be raiding
the club coffers. Instead, like the majority of managers, he
will trawl through the list of players out of contract this
summer.

"There will be a load of play-ers available," said Kember.
"What you find is, unless there is someone going out splashing
a lot of money, like the big clubs can do on bigger players, I
think that business will start in earnest in the last week of
June, early July, when you start coming back."

So it doesn't look like Shipperley will be coming unless he's free.

Face it folks - we're strapped for cash.

glaziers fan

10-06-2003, 01:35 AM

My Wimbledon supporting mate says that Shipperley is overweight and misses LOADS of chances. Apparently Connolly is 10 times better. Wimbledons best players are McAnuff and Morgan. That's why the team creates so much for Shipps. In this transfer market Wimbledon should have to pay us to take Shipps off their hands!

LLCOOLSTEVE

10-06-2003, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by Chickereagle

Face it folks - we're strapped for cash.

only just realised??? :confused:

TC EAGLE

10-06-2003, 06:30 AM

According to this mornings Mirror we could get him back for a fraction of the £750.000 we got for him.

917L

10-06-2003, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by sydnsteve
Like everyone slagged clubs off for doing to us, in fact. Funny old world.

The point being that it's about time, we exploited someone else's problems instead being exploited.

Chickereagle

10-06-2003, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
only just realised??? :confused:
No. I realised that a long time ago.

But there are many on these boards who don't seem to appreciate the fact yet. Witness this thread on spending £1M an an ex player. :(

Panther

10-06-2003, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by glaziers fan
Shipperley is overweight

No, really?

Seriously though, can't we start looking for new blood rather than the old stuff recirculated?

Wedgy

10-06-2003, 09:16 AM

Yes please, thank you very much :p

Benzhiyi

10-06-2003, 10:14 AM

To follow up TC Eagle's post...

'Wimbledon striker Neil Shipperley, 28, could be the first player to leave since the crisis club went into administration.

Crystal Palace boss Steve Kember has made an enquiry and Shipperley could return to his former club for a fraction of the £750,000 fee the Dons paid for him two years ago.'

Yes please! :)

cpfcben

10-06-2003, 10:19 AM

how many goals did shipps get last year around 23+, certainly what we need

kit82

10-06-2003, 11:05 AM

I for one would be very happy if Shipps was the striker brought in, however this would only be good news if there is an excellent midfielder available for free as that is more important imho

TC EAGLE

10-06-2003, 11:09 AM

Shipps and the Doug, the new wright bright partnership we need to get us back were we belong THE PREMEIRSHIP
yes please come on SK if it's true make it a done deal.

c_block_lad

10-06-2003, 03:17 PM

Would be delighted if Shipps was brought back to SE25.

Bobby Dandruff

10-06-2003, 03:42 PM

2029

Neil Shipperley is a very underrated player, I believe he would be a tremendous and very popular signing by Steve, I hope SJ gives it the thumbs up! (the only worry is at the Fans Forum a couple of weeks ago, when someone in the audience called out Neil Shipperley's name as a possible signing, Simon Jordan pulled a dissapproved face!)

Calder2

10-06-2003, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Lords Eagle
If all Hayden is worth is £700k, then Shipps is certainly not worth 1/2 to 1 mill.

Quite agree. He is a "journeyman" and not a very good one these days. If we bought him back at all, it should be on a free.

Beanie

10-06-2003, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
...and Shipperley could return to his former club for a fraction of the £750,000 fee the Dons paid for him two years ago.'

Yes please! :)

Can I point out that 99/100 (or 742500) is a fraction - as indeed is 150/100(1125000). It is a meaningless statement ref the price.

Could be interesting though

Benzhiyi

10-06-2003, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Calder2
Quite agree. He is a "journeyman" and not a very good one these days. If we bought him back at all, it should be on a free.

He scored as many goals last season (24) as Clinton Morrison did for us the previous campaign, and we all now how brilliant Clint was that year.

Plus he'd be a very different option up front to our collection of admittedly gifted, but lightweight, footballers. A more prolific replacement for Dele even.

A journeyman yes. Not a very good one? You're joking.

nookiebear

10-06-2003, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by c_block_lad
Would be delighted if Shipps was brought back to SE25.

One of those rare 'I agree with c_block_lad' moments :eek: :sob: :p :D

Hold old is Shipps?

75points

10-06-2003, 06:20 PM

Shiperley is on over 8k a week at the dons . He is slow but experienced.
A younger and cheaper alternative is needed - his wages alone would fund either Lee or Hulse( both who will work harder ,have more pace, and will probably score a similar number of goals and a have longer future ) plus another player decent.
Therefore is in my view he is a sentimental luxory. Wimbledon have better and cheaper players .

milesy13

10-06-2003, 06:33 PM

I'd def welcome him back as long as a) we don't pay more than £500,000 and b)his wages aren't too high. Don't think he's worth 8k a week.

He's good in the air and will hold the ball up well, and bring our more skillful players into the game, i.e. doogie, tommy. One of Clinton's greatest strengths was the way he held the ball up, and since he's left we've sorely missed this attribute. Also Shipps scored 24 goals last season, which given that his apparently is overweight and misses loads of chances is pretty impressive.

Snap him up I say

JamieBcpfc

10-06-2003, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by nookiebear
One of those rare 'I agree with c_block_lad' moments :eek: :sob: :p :D

Hold old is Shipps?
he is 28 and we have apparently made an enquirey to make a cutprice swoop for shipperley

N Herts Eagle

10-06-2003, 08:53 PM

Bring him back sign up Lee have Freedman Johnson Williams and Shipperley far better option than last year of Adebola or Ade

Benzhiyi

10-06-2003, 08:54 PM

Indeed, for those who claim Shipperley is too old, take note:

Dougie Freedman is nine months older than Shipps.

limited_edition

10-06-2003, 09:01 PM

How old is Whelan ? Around the same age ? Freedman and Shipps played together at Forest as well as Palace, so I'm sure the partnership would work again. He's a proven goalscorer at this level. If we can get him for a good price, let's snap him up.

Palace Don

10-06-2003, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Indeed, for those who claim Shipperley is too old, take note:

Dougie Freedman is nine months older than Shipps.

More to the point they had a great partnership didnt when together last time?

Benzhiyi

10-06-2003, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by limited_edition
How old is Whelan ? Around the same age ? Freedman and Shipps played together at Forest as well as Palace, so I'm sure the partnership would work again. He's a proven goalscorer at this level. If we can get him for a good price, let's snap him up.

Whelan is 28 (30.12.74)
Freeedman is 29 (21.01.74, although there is some suspicion over his official DoB - Steve may be able to help?)
Shipperley is 28 (30.10.74)

In other words, all in the same bracket, both age wise and wage wise.

ukjay_29

10-06-2003, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Calder2
Quite agree. He is a "journeyman" and not a very good one these days.

TW@T - 24 goals last season speaks for itself.....:bash:

Leap of faith

10-06-2003, 10:34 PM

We had around 34 players in the 1st team squad last season. In my opinion we need to get rid of around 14 players and bring in about 3 new ones. Shipps may be on 8 grand a week but it's the equivalent of around 2 Steve Thomson's. I know which I'd rather have.:p

The Vicar

10-06-2003, 10:52 PM

I don't know if Shipps is the right player to partner Dougie...and I'm not encouraged if he's slow. But -- there is a real value to someone who knows how to find the back of the net innit. Shipps -- could make sense in a Palace jersey.

Calder2

11-06-2003, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by ukjay_29
TW@T - 24 goals last season speaks for itself.....:bash:

No need to be abusive because you don't agree with my views. Just because he scores 24 goals one season doesn't mean he will do it regularly. Over his career, his scoring record isn't that good. He is verweight and I think Lee from Rotherham would be a better long term bet, assuming SJ wants to spend any money which is doubtful.

Freddy Kurz

11-06-2003, 08:25 AM

If the Franchisers are seriously interested in unloading Shipperley,
it is probably due to his high wages (8k per week?) unlikely to be
easily recouped at the MK hockey stadium, and while in Administration! The usual 3 year deal involving players like Shipperley (at 8k per week)would cost Palace 1.2m, excluding any transfer fee. According to Kember last week, any fee for Mullins won't be earmarked for inward transfers? Hard then to see where the cash for Shipperley will come from. More outward transfers, more season-ticket sales? Think he could do a good job for us of holding the ball up, distributing it to others with head or feet and scoring a reasonable quota of goals. Long-term, Lee would be the better bet but that would still leave us needing that "creative-midfielder" lacking for so many seasons.

ukjay_29

11-06-2003, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Calder2
No need to be abusive because you don't agree with my views. Just because he scores 24 goals one season doesn't mean he will do it regularly. Over his career, his scoring record isn't that good. He is verweight and I think Lee from Rotherham would be a better long term bet, assuming SJ wants to spend any money which is doubtful.

Fair point, and I apologise.

If you look at his career to date though, whilst he has struggled to score consistantly in the top flight, he has a sound record in Division 1, and his strike rate of 1 goal in 4 games is weighted by his poor strike rate in the Premiership.....I don't think SJ will look to splash the cash on Lee and I believe Shipperley would return and, taking the current environment, be prepared to take a pay cut..............

adrenalin john

11-06-2003, 08:56 AM

shipperly will do fine for us if he loses weight, for me his best spell of form coincided with our good run in PL around the time the floodlights went out at wet sham after ships had shed a good 15-20lbs. Unfortunately he got injured shortly afterwards and never regained that form.

Cleon

11-06-2003, 09:04 AM

Obviously I am a fan of Shipps - he was great for us.

However, I am not convinced that it is a target man that we need necessarily. A target man is normally there to create space for the other faster striker. In many ways, that is what Dougie does - he creates space for other players.

Perhaps what we need is another Clinton.

Doh! We knew that all along. ;)

Jimbo ?

11-06-2003, 09:09 AM

ships would be great - but i cant help feeling that it is all paper talk!

andymorris

11-06-2003, 09:24 AM

Kember is quoted on cpfc.co.uk as saying he is a big admirer of shipps + i for one would like to see him in palace colours again

Benzhiyi

11-06-2003, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by adrenalin john
shipperly will do fine for us if he loses weight, for me his best spell of form coincided with our good run in PL around the time the floodlights went out at wet sham after ships had shed a good 15-20lbs. Unfortunately he got injured shortly afterwards and never regained that form.

Last season he looked slimmer than I'd seen him in his career.

11-06-2003, 10:14 AM

If you read Kembers notes he is looking for a forward to "hold" the ball up and be a presence in the air when needed. Is Shipperley that man?

sydnsteve

11-06-2003, 10:29 AM

He might well be on £8k a week, but he won't get that anywhere else.
If he came he'd have to take a pay cut, but I think he could do a good job. Probably all b@llocks anyway.

Big Fella

11-06-2003, 10:39 AM

Shipps would be ideal for us, as he was when he originally came here. Although not fast, is strong, can hold the ball up and is also a goal poacher. 23 goals last season does not make him a journeyman in my opinion. From what I've heard, we definately want him, he wants to come to us, the only stumbling block is Wimbledon's reluctance to sell. However I heard that a week ago, so things may have changed!

Benzhiyi

11-06-2003, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by AJ
If you read Kembers notes he is looking for a forward to "hold" the ball up and be a presence in the air when needed. Is Shipperley that man?

Without a doubt. Him or Whelan for me.

Some have suggested that we don't have any money but we had enough to offer Dele and Julian new deals; now Dele has gone there is a space on the wage bill...

Beanie

11-06-2003, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Some have suggested that we don't have any money but we had enough to offer Dele and Julian new deals; now Dele has gone there is a space on the wage bill...

This is very true. Berthelin and Williams are also mulling over the deals they've been offered. We have released Kolinko, Thomson, Robert Smith and Hunt. With them gone we can probably sign a couple of players and still have a lower wage bill. When Gray finally makes a decision there'll be more around for his replacement, if needed.

wedgetail

11-06-2003, 11:21 AM

Wimbledon facing transfer embargo
By Raoul Simons, Evening Standard
11 June 2003
Wimbledon were today facing the prospect of a transfer embargo after failing to pay any of their players' salaries last month.

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Go get Connolly or Shipps

Cleon

11-06-2003, 11:34 AM

Shipps is like the harbinger of doom isn't he... Crystal Palace, Barnsley, Wimbledon...

KennyB

11-06-2003, 12:11 PM

I was interested in that statement that they played together at NF. From what I remember, being at NF wasn't one of Dougie's happier times. How did that partnership go? And who left first, Ship or Doug?

I think Ship would be good for us, but I am possibly looking through rose coloured specs, as my memory is a based on us having a different team and better attitude then. And we were playing some good football.

But, he is the right style of player to pair with Doug, as long as the midfield can keep him (and Doug) fed with half-decent balls. I also have this horrible premonition of him coming back after a lazy summer off and ending up like Hopkins mark 2.

Now that we do not need.

Palace Don

11-06-2003, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by Cleon
Shipps is like the harbinger of doom isn't he... Crystal Palace, Barnsley, Wimbledon...

Not as much as Herman Hreidarsson. Palace, Wimbledon, Ipswich

917L

11-06-2003, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Palace Don
Not as much as Herman Hreidarsson. Palace, Wimbledon, Ipswich

Lets hope so, now he's gone to the clowns:D

917L

11-06-2003, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by KennyB
I was interested in that statement that they played together at NF. From what I remember, being at NF wasn't one of Dougie's happier times. How did that partnership go? And who left first, Ship or Doug?

Forest careers

DF 1/8/98-23/10/00 61 STARTS 23 GOALS

NS 21/9/98-6/7/99 13 STARTS 1 GOAL

biggus mickus

11-06-2003, 04:30 PM

Keep the info coming please. The only thing I found about it in Spain, was from a Daily Mirror(spit). It said Shipps could be picked up for a song. Help!

Chickereagle

11-06-2003, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by biggus mickus
The only thing I found about it in Spain, was from a Daily Mirror(spit). It said Shipps could be picked up for a song. Help!
What, even an old Beatles' song? :D

Brett

12-06-2003, 03:39 PM

Shipperley...

Things are happening...

AddiscombeEagle

12-06-2003, 03:42 PM

I think Brett knows something, we don't know

Spanish Dan

12-06-2003, 03:44 PM

..so I've heard too. Straight from the horse's mouth. Well, one of the horses that's involved anyway.

kolinkins

12-06-2003, 03:47 PM

on regional teletext on itv, SK admits to interest in shipps, but no bid has yet been made.

Brett

12-06-2003, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by AddiscombeEagle
I think Brett knows something, we don't know

Ooops! I didn't read the whole thread.

Brett

12-06-2003, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by kolinkins
on regional teletext on itv, SK admits to interest in shipps, but no bid has yet been made.

They've already discussed a fee.

kolinkins

12-06-2003, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Brett
They've already discussed a fee.

good good, hope we can get him.

if i remember correctly, did he not donate £1000 to the trust when we were in admin?

nicebutdim

12-06-2003, 04:52 PM

I for one would like to see him back, simply so I can resuscitate my legendary song:

"His parents called him Neil and his surname's Shipperley,

Shipperley, Shipperley"

Oh the memories of the whole of Selhurst rocking along in unison with me on that one!!

pedro

12-06-2003, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by kolinkins
if i remember correctly, did he not donate £1000 to the trust when we were in admin?
Why? Do you think he wants it back for the Wimbledon kitty?

BUNGLE

12-06-2003, 08:21 PM

Would love to have Shipps back, he would be an excellent signing.

Ben H

12-06-2003, 09:37 PM

Didn't realise he was only 28. Let's get him on the cheap just like Wimbledon did when we were in admin. About time we paid them back.

Leap of faith

12-06-2003, 10:00 PM

I thought Forest bought him off us for 1m when things were tough.
A great chance to take advantage of Koppell's cunning administration plan!

Brett

12-06-2003, 10:05 PM

Wimbledon purchased Neil Shipperley from Barnsley.

Gerry from Sussex

13-06-2003, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by KennyB
But, he is the right style of player to pair with Doug, as long as the midfield can keep him (and Doug) fed with half-decent balls. I also have this horrible premonition of him coming back after a lazy summer off and ending up like Hopkins mark 2.

Now that we do not need.

Being Palace fans it is only right and proper that we fear the worst! But, I think we might be okay on this one. Shipps has never been known for being lazy and, unlike far too many of TF's signings, we would be getting him coming off a season of banging in goals, rather than sitting at home nursing an injury (whether pyschological or physical). A straightforward signing at last - please let it be true.

SKATE

13-06-2003, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by kolinkins
good good, hope we can get him.

if i remember correctly, did he not donate £1000 to the trust when we were in admin?

He did indeed - only ex palace player to take out a £1000 loan note. Bless him :love: Like all loan note holders he got his money back ages ago so maybe he can lend it to Wimbledon now!

Panther

13-06-2003, 08:53 AM

I imagine it's been drunk by now!

kolinkins

13-06-2003, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by Leap of faith
I thought Forest bought him off us for 1m when things were tough.
A great chance to take advantage of Koppell's cunning administration plan!

they bought him for £1.5 million, then Goldberg said we were going to buy a 25 goals a season international striker to replace him. the rest, as they say, is history.

Shipps seems to have followed Dave Bassett everywhere - Palace, Forest, Barnsley.

KennyB

13-06-2003, 12:00 PM

I'll go with that.

Could be a good partnership.

Let's hope it comes off.

18mcpalace

13-06-2003, 12:06 PM

I think that we should do our best to get the services of both Neil Shipperley and David Connolly. Along with Freedman and Johnson would then have a selection of strikers to be proud of.

Lets take advantage of Wimbledon while we can!

limited_edition

13-06-2003, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by kolinkins
they bought him for £1.5 million, then Goldberg said we were going to buy a 25 goals a season international striker to replace him. the rest, as they say, is history. Ah, you must mean Lee Bradbury.

Jimbo ?

13-06-2003, 05:53 PM

more rumours today - but sadly i think that is all it will be just rumours - i would love to see shipps back at selhurst but i really cant see it happening!

JamieBcpfc

13-06-2003, 06:44 PM

i would love to get him back so i can frustate all parties involved bu getting shipperly on my shirt, last time it only fit on the shirt because it was in the shape of a circle

Bobby Dandruff

14-06-2003, 06:08 AM

Just hope Steve doesn't drag his heels on getting Shipperley, he's now made it public knowledge that he wants him in which could make Wimbledon hold out for a higher figure, still SK is new to the game of management.

Ruskin Old Boy

14-06-2003, 07:15 AM

Asking price isn't up to Wimbledon as they are in administration. The accountants will make the decision and a cash on the table offer would be very attractive to them; but can SJ find the readies?

Gooders

14-06-2003, 08:15 AM

My local paper here in Crowthorne says that Reading are interested in Shipperley, Goater and Freedman :eek: as potential signings.

pedro

14-06-2003, 10:26 AM

If we are intent on buying an ex-Palace centre forward then I would suggest buying Gareth Taylor, he looked extremely impressive when Burnley came to Selhurst this season and I think he has a little more to offer than Shipps. Also, didn't Smith agree a fee for Shipps when he was manager only for the personal terms to be too excessive, how do we know that still is not the case. Matt Holland is a classic example of clubs taking less for a player because they have no intention of lowering their own demands. No player is going to take a huge pay cut and move just to help their current club out of a financial mess, it just doesn't work like that.

Benzhiyi

14-06-2003, 10:38 AM

Yes but Pedro, Shipps isn't being paid AT ALL... none of the Wimbledon playes are.

Sir.S.C Remembered

14-06-2003, 10:44 AM

Taylor is a donkey and is a player with only his size to his game

pedro

14-06-2003, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Yes but Pedro, Shipps isn't being paid AT ALL... none of the Wimbledon playes are.
I see your point but that still doesn't alter things too much, as players still tend to be greedy in situations like this. They will either stay put on their current salary in the hope the team comes out of administration which tends to be the case in the higher divisions, with Leicester and Muzzy Izzett being a classic example as they will then come to some deal over their owed salary. If they do move on they will want the same salary, in some cases more, because their new club have got a bargain by getting them for free and they think they deserve a bit of the action as well. I am not saying Shipperley is a typical 'greedy' footballer but he does have to do the best for him and his family so I do not think he will look upon us as a charity case just because he is an ex-player. All I am saying is a player who scored 24 goals last season and maybe available very cheaply is going to have high personal demands and Palace are not going to rock the boat as far as the rest of the squad is concerned. I just think that Palace have their limit and it might not be enough to get Shipperley.

kit82

14-06-2003, 10:53 AM

If players arn't getting paid then I believe they can leave for free! (Maybe worth looking at that youngster at Oldham as well)

Chickereagle

14-06-2003, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by pedro
[B]If we are intent on buying an ex-Palace centre forward then I would suggest buying Gareth Taylor/B]
He was pilloried by the fans during his short stay at Selhurst. Why would he want to repeat that experience with today's crop of moaning minnies?

Benzhiyi

14-06-2003, 11:10 AM

Pedro, Shipperley quite clearly has affections towards Palace (he attended the Player of the Year dinner 2001-02 as well as contributing that £1000).

We don't know what he is thinking, and it's a dangerous stereotype to say that EVERY footballer is obsessed with money. Maybe he wants to stay in South London rather than move to Concrete Cow land, maybe he's fed up with playing for the now universally hated Dons, maybe he feels Palace are a better bet next season than his current club.

Whatever his reasoning, if he ends up at Palace next season I will be delighted - so let's not go worrying about the hypotheticals unless the deal falls through.

pedro

14-06-2003, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Pedro, Shipperley quite clearly has affections towards Palace (he attended the Player of the Year dinner 2001-02 as well as contributing that £1000).

We don't know what he is thinking, and it's a dangerous stereotype to say that EVERY footballer is obsessed with money. Maybe he wants to stay in South London rather than move to Concrete Cow land, maybe he's fed up with playing for the now universally hated Dons, maybe he feels Palace are a better bet next season than his current club.

Whatever his reasoning, if he ends up at Palace next season I will be delighted - so let's not go worrying about the hypotheticals unless the deal falls through.
I would be just as happy if he joined but I was just being realistic. Shipperley turned down the chance of rejoining us a couple of years ago because of money, Asaba turned down the chance to play for his beloved Palace because of money, it happens. SK admits he likes Shipps but also says no contact has been made regarding the player so I think you are a bit ahead of yourself with the comment "unless the deal falls through."

Benzhiyi

14-06-2003, 11:34 AM

Don't believe 'the official line' on everything. :) ;)

pedro

14-06-2003, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Don't believe 'the official line' on everything. :) ;)
Why, what is the unofficial line then?

limited_edition

14-06-2003, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by pedro
I would be just as happy if he joined but I was just being realistic. Shipperley turned down the chance of rejoining us a couple of years ago because of money, Yeah, well finances in the Nationwide have changed a hell of a lot in the last couple of years. If Shipps is realistic, he could do a lot worse than rejoining us now.

pedro

14-06-2003, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by limited_edition
Yeah, well finances in the Nationwide have changed a hell of a lot in the last couple of years. If Shipps is realistic, he could do a lot worse than rejoining us now.
Yes and he could probably do alot better as well. Does anyone know how long a contract he has at Wimbledon and what his weekly wage is, this will determine whether it is in his best interest to stay or leave. The administation issue is not his problem and if, like Muzzy Izzett, nobody can match what he is earning at present and, if he has a good few years on his contract, why should he jump ship for their sakes. I personally think he is on a decent salary or why would he have joined them in the first place, they were hardly going to be promotion winning material were they! As I have said before the likelyhood of a Div 1 side going under is minimal so he is likely to get what he is owed eventually, the option of taking the club to court is not something I can see Shipps doing as he is not that type of bloke. So the only way he will leave is if an interested club make it financially worthwhile and all I am saying is I do not know if we can. Although the market has changed his contract hasn't and what happens in 3 years time (if that is how long he has left on his contract) if money has found its way back into football. If he leaves now for £2k a week less than he is getting at Wimbledon then he would have done himself out of £300k. Hardly a sensible move on his part.

wholethedougout

16-06-2003, 10:37 PM

How long is Shipps contract? I remember reading somewhere that its either 1 or 3 years. But remember he may not have a choice but to take the pay cut, if Wimbledon want to sell him (the admins i mean) then he will probably have to go, and as there as 500 players released there is competition for places!

Rich21T

19-06-2003, 10:15 AM

Yes i would welcome him back with open arms
:lux:
But not for a million

Psychokiller

19-06-2003, 10:51 AM

In the current climate, and with Franchise FC in administration, I would imagine we could pick him up for about £200,000

Elusive

19-06-2003, 10:59 AM

Connelly is younger a similar sort of player and scored more goals than Ships last season. He also has no previous with the club.

917L

19-06-2003, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Elusive
Connelly is younger a similar sort of player and scored more goals than Ships last season. He also has no previous with the club.

He isnt the same kind of player at all and he didnt score more goals last season, they both scored 24. We dont need Connelly as we have a better version in Dougie, we do need Shipperley or his like.

igl

19-06-2003, 12:06 PM

I suggest that we get on with negotiating a deal then before someone else jumps in. After seeing that Pompey are buying Reo-Coker and McAnuff then it will alert a hoard of other clubs to start sniffing ! I fear we will lose out to someone with a faster trigger finger !

18mcpalace

19-06-2003, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by igl
I suggest that we get on with negotiating a deal then before someone else jumps in. After seeing that Pompey are buying Reo-Coker and McAnuff then it will alert a hoard of other clubs to start sniffing ! I fear we will lose out to someone with a faster trigger finger !

Total agreement. SJ and SK get back from your holidays and get on the case!

I want Connolly and Shipperley at Palace next season! Along with Freedman we would have the best set of forwards in the division. We can then try and say goodbye to Akinbiyi and even Johnson.

rednbluevegas

19-06-2003, 06:38 PM

I would be very surprised if this deal happens - I think personal terms would be an issue. There is no doubt he would be a popular signing, but I think he'll be able to get more money elsewhere.

c_block_lad

19-06-2003, 07:05 PM

Shipps would want good money for joining us.

Vince Hilaire's Afro

19-06-2003, 08:28 PM

Shipperley for nothing - Dons can't pay squat for squatting so let's have him free just for letting them play 'Me Casa Selhurstio' for a few more games before they finally fade off to Milk and Greens.

Freddy Kurz

19-06-2003, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by 18mcpalace
Total agreement. SJ and SK get back from your holidays and get on the case!

I want Connolly and Shipperley at Palace next season! Along with Freedman we would have the best set of forwards in the division. We can then try and say goodbye to Akinbiyi and even Johnson.

Akinbiyi & Johnson are both contracted players on very high salaries.
Can you suggest which particular British or foreign clubs are going to
take both off the hands of CPFC in the present parlous state of the transfer market? Since the money for any Mullins sale is, according
to Kember recently, earmarked by the Club to help balance the books,
where, precisely is all the money coming from to buy Shipperley and
Connolly and pay them the wages they are accustomed to?
Reality suggests that Kember and Jordan will be looking for
free-transfers and loan players on relatively modest wages to try to strengthen the first-team squad. Kember's recent remarks about
considering the return to fitness of long-term injured Clarke, Jamie
Smith, Fleming and Symons as like having 4 new players available,
is an indication of the way his mind is working. This attitude used
to be known in olden days as "gilding the lily"!

sexyrazor

20-06-2003, 05:12 AM

I think we'll be seeing Neil back at the Eagles, it'll be a good partnership with Dougie!!

igl

20-06-2003, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by sexyrazor
I think we'll be seeing Neil back at the Eagles, it'll be a good partnership with Dougie!!

Is that an informed guess or just wishful thinking ??!

Freddy Kurz

20-06-2003, 07:35 AM

Please note that my recent posts have been sent
correctly paragraphed but are ending up being
chopped up into random words and phrases.
Have E-mailed BBS for an explanation.

El Aguila

20-06-2003, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Freddy Kurz
Please note that my recent posts have been sent
correctly paragraphed but are ending up being
chopped up into random words and phrases.
Have E-mailed BBS for an explanation.
William Burroughs has become a moderator.

Elephant with mouse gyp

20-06-2003, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by sexyrazor
I think we'll be seeing Neil back at the Eagles, it'll be a good partnership with Dougie!!

Not sure Clive Woodward would be too happy with that.

Dave

20-06-2003, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by El Aguila
William Burroughs has become a moderator.

We could rename this forum 'Transfer Interzone'?

wedgetail

20-06-2003, 08:26 AM

Wimbledon's accountants would probably take £50,000 just to get him off the books.

ElwissAtMemphis

20-06-2003, 11:49 AM

Apologies for not being bothered to read the entire thread but could somebody please clarify: is there any truth in the supposition that Palace are considering buying Shipperley or is this just another "Player X" is available ... "should we buy him ?" thread.

Dave

20-06-2003, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by ElwissAtMemphis
Apologies for not being bothered to read the entire thread but could somebody please clarify: is there any truth in the supposition that Palace are considering buying Shipperley or is this just another "Player X" is available ... "should we buy him ?" thread.

the former

Kirby

20-06-2003, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by Elephant with mouse gyp
Not sure Clive Woodward would be too happy with that.

:D:p

sexyrazor

20-06-2003, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Elephant with mouse gyp
Not sure Clive Woodward would be too happy with that.

Who is Clive Woodwood?:confused:

pedro

20-06-2003, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by sexyrazor
Who is Clive Woodwood?:confused:
Clive Woodward is the England Rugby Union coach whilst Neil Back is an England player. I don't want to confuse the issue even further but isn't Back a forward? :D

redandblue

20-06-2003, 05:05 PM

Neil Shipperly has the worst first touch of any player ihave ever seen why on earth do we want that. The touch aside him and Dougie are to similar to work well together

Oz_da_Eagle

20-06-2003, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by redandblue
Neil Shipperly has the worst first touch of any player ihave ever seen why on earth do we want that.

I'll take 24 goals in 51 appearances.

Plenty of goals and no injuries, sounds good to me.

kiwieagle

21-06-2003, 12:27 AM

Clive Woodward is the England rugby couch, they are over here at the moment and have just won against the All Blacks for the first time in 50 years. Australia next a win against the world champs?

arussell

21-06-2003, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by wedgetail
Wimbledon's accountants would probably take £50,000 just to get him off the books.

250k I've heard :) (Shush ...)

screamingalice

21-06-2003, 10:34 AM

Red n Blue, I thought the Doog and Shipps worked well together in the 96/97 promotion season. A repeat of that season in 03/04 will do thank you very much! Also lets not forget Shipps only went because we had to sell, he contributed to the Trust and with the Doog will give it all for the shirt.

kiwieagle

21-06-2003, 11:06 AM

I know its Rugby guys but you lot should be proud of the England team they have just won for the first time ever in Australia. I am warming to Ships coming to Palace voted no at first.

Ade_0402

21-06-2003, 11:09 AM

I read on Teletext the other day that the Don's administrators say they have no need to sell any more of the players...but hope they are wrong and Mr Shipperley's Range Rover once again frequents the CPFC Car Park - for us this time!

Calder2

21-06-2003, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Ade_0402
I read on Teletext the other day that the Don's administrators say they have no need to sell any more of the players...but hope they are wrong and Mr Shipperley's Range Rover once again frequents the CPFC Car Park - for us this time!

That's why they have sold two players to Portsmouth and have just sold David Connelly to Reading for £500K. If Connelly, who is a far better, albeit, different, player to Shipperley, went for £500k, Shipperley cannot be worth more than £100K tops.

Gooders

21-06-2003, 05:28 PM

Connelly is well overrated, IMHO, and is too similar to players we already have. I'd rather have Shipperley, of the two.

PeterH

21-06-2003, 06:19 PM

Are our club sitting on their hands watching these deals go by then....

Jimbo ?

21-06-2003, 06:23 PM

it appears so!! i would like to see palace going out and getting a couple of players now!

Malakite

21-06-2003, 11:17 PM

Id like the man back no question, still can never forget his open goal miss against Man Utd in the Holmesdale when we were 3-0 down and heading back to the Nationwide :sob:

pedro

22-06-2003, 03:03 PM

Norwich linked with both Shipperley and Connelly in today's People.

LLCOOLSTEVE

22-06-2003, 03:11 PM

Has Connelly gone to Reading or not??

arussell

22-06-2003, 11:59 PM

Nope.

He's still at Wimbledon Steve.

RDSdaEAGLE

23-06-2003, 12:45 AM

If Shipperley goes to Norwich or any other club as of fact, I will be sick. The man wants to join Palace, we want to have him...him joining another club would be criminal.

Gooders

23-06-2003, 07:16 AM

It'd be good to see him back but it won't be the end of the world if he goes elsewhere either.

Where's the creative midfielder?

That's the news I'm waiting for.

Riccardo

25-06-2003, 01:52 PM

So....is this going to happen (for £400k or less) ??

I really want us to make this deal.

Ade_0402

29-06-2003, 04:28 PM

Don't know if anyone heard Shipps on Sky Sports News this a.m. regarding Wimbledon's non-payment of wages but he sounded well peed off (as he should) and said that things need to be sorted out a a meeting on Tuesday. The presenter did mention that both Norwich and ourselves were interested in him and he said that he was flattered and said let's see what happens after the meeting....surely he can't stay with the Dons??!!

kolinkins

29-06-2003, 04:34 PM

well, as they have not been paid, he can give 2 weeks notice and leave for free. lets show him how hypocritical we are, and welcome him home, forgetting he will be doing the same as kevin miller did.

anyhow, he would be a great signing!

29-06-2003, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by Freddy Kurz
Akinbiyi & Johnson are both contracted players on very high salaries.....

I don't think your information is 100% here Freddy.
Akinbiyi maybe but AJ - no way.

When AJ signed for Palace from Birmingham he was given a hard time in some quarters for reportedly seeking to treble the salary he was on at Brum.
Seeing as he was only on £1,000 a week at the time he was hardly asking for the earth was he?
My understanding is that AJ's current contract pays him £3,000 a week at Palace (but that this figure also includes his bonus - which, to date, he hasn't been paid)

29-06-2003, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Gooders

Where's the creative midfielder?

That's the news I'm waiting for.

See the Jody Morris thread.:p

Mr. Eagle

29-06-2003, 05:36 PM

If we sign anyone this summer please let it be Shipperley.

We won't need a creative midfielder because Freedman/Black and AJ will be free to fill this role.

29-06-2003, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Connelly is well overrated, IMHO,

28 Goals for Wimbledon last season. I can handle that sort of 'over rated'

That said, I also believe the partnership with Shipperley is what made it work for him. So maybe Ship's is the key player and maybe, just maybe, could get The Doog and AJ scoring for fun.

I just think it would be more sensible to sign both players even if that means letting AJ go.

BUNGLE

29-06-2003, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Eagle
We won't need a creative midfielder because Freedman/Black and AJ will be free to fill this role.

Except not one of them play naturally in that position and none of them have proved they can play in that position particularly well.

pedro

30-06-2003, 05:26 PM

Both Shipps and Connolly were adamant that their partnership shouldn't be split up just before Wimbledon went into administration. With Connolly now in talks with Reading I would not be surprised to see Shipps following soon, either to Palace or someone else.

Freddy Kurz

30-06-2003, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Bumgas
I don't think your information is 100% here Freddy.
Akinbiyi maybe but AJ - no way.

When AJ signed for Palace from Birmingham he was given a hard time in some quarters for reportedly seeking to treble the salary he was on at Brum.
Seeing as he was only on £1,000 a week at the time he was hardly asking for the earth was he?
My understanding is that AJ's current contract pays him £3,000 a week at Palace (but that this figure also includes his bonus - which, to date, he hasn't been paid)

Everything is relative Bumgas. Obviously Akinbiyi is
on much higher wages than Johnson, due to Akinbiyi's
contract which largely,if not entirely, made up for his
transfer fee. Johnson was a make-weight in the
Clinton deal and he played very hard to get but
may well have settled for 3k a week (inc. bonuses)
which was still pretty steep for a 21yr old, 5'7"
"striker" with a goal tally of only 8 goals in 83 games!
With the deflationary pressures now prevailing in foot-
ball today, such wages may soon be a thing of the
past. Hence Jordan's constant harping on about
'big-time Charlies'. Happen to think Johnson proved
a very good signing and could play an important part
in a promotion push next season.

oldeagle

30-06-2003, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by Gooders
Connelly is well overrated, IMHO, and is too similar to players we already have. I'd rather have Shipperley, of the two.

Shipperley 20 league goals in 46 league appearances

Connolly 24 league goals in 28 league appearances

CPFC best AJ 11 league goals in 27 league appearances.

What criteria should be applied in deciding the more attractive / beneficial player for CPFC?

Malakite

30-06-2003, 07:40 PM

Ill take Ships OR Connolly, but would prefer the later if push came to shove!

BrianF

01-07-2003, 11:06 AM

Just got a txt from 82222 (don't know who they are though) saying "Kember in major talks today to re-sign key team player"

Could be Shipps???????????????

brb rule

01-07-2003, 11:08 AM

Yeah i got that 2, think i will leave it though, be good if it was shipps.

cpfcben

01-07-2003, 11:14 AM

yeah i got that message as well but i have run out of credit on my phone. can one of you lot reply with CLUB CPAL and then we can all find out who it is

cpfcben

01-07-2003, 11:15 AM

it might be clinton, as palace want to try and get him on loan

Johnny Boy

01-07-2003, 11:19 AM

Yep, got that too.

Fof spoke to a former scout at the Dons who said that Shipps was on his way back. Also confirmed that Connelly was off.

Wimbledon are falling apart at the moment.

Icy

01-07-2003, 11:23 AM

Looks like connelly is off to reading, shame we cant have both him and shipps :(

01-07-2003, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by BrianF
Just got a txt from 82222 (don't know who they are though) saying "Kember in major talks today to re-sign key team player"

Could be Shipps???????????????

I got that message. Who are this 82222 bunch then. Received from them before telling me i'd won money/prizes etc...Don't rememeber subscribing to anything. Does receiving cost me??
I get enough junk mail thru the letterbox at home.:veryangry

BrianF

01-07-2003, 11:31 AM

Don't know who they are. I have replied but not yet got another txt.

Sir.S.C Remembered

01-07-2003, 01:34 PM

I got that text too!

jempie

02-07-2003, 08:25 AM

I know from seeing Shipps at SP last year (twice), that he was on the large side, but in an interview for the london tonight, he looked like he'd let himself go a bit!

Still a very good player though. Whether we want to go down the ex-palace player route again, is a different matter.

Sires

03-07-2003, 06:08 PM

Are we gonna sign him or what. I heard that since Wimbledon went into administration he wouldn't mind a move to Palace, and we were interested, or is this old news and he doesn't wanna come anymore.

LLCOOLSTEVE

03-07-2003, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by Sires
Are we gonna sign him or what.

Yes :)

BringBackSasa

03-07-2003, 09:47 PM

I'm happy about that :) :lux:

BringBackSasa

03-07-2003, 09:49 PM

Fee?

cpfcben

03-07-2003, 09:53 PM

yes he defo coming

Benzhiyi

03-07-2003, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by BringBackSasa
Fee?

£100,000 I heard.

Steve will have a better idea though?

LLCOOLSTEVE

03-07-2003, 10:28 PM

Im not sure about a fee as a such.

kolinkins

03-07-2003, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Im not sure about a fee as a such.

mate, you are a geezer when you give good news:p :p :p

Jimbo ?

03-07-2003, 10:46 PM

I'll believe it when i see it!

Dave

03-07-2003, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Im not sure about a fee as a such.

thanks Steve

kit82

04-07-2003, 08:10 AM

Daily Mail today reporting that Ships will be brought in as a fee for Wimbledon playin at Selhurst next season

I think SJ said that this would be worth about 600k at fans forum, but that would be for a year, and of course Wimbledon will want out asap

Great deal if it goes through though, shame we couldnt work McAnuff into the deal!!!!!

04-07-2003, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by kit82
Daily Mail today reporting that Ships will be brought in as a fee for Wimbledon playin at Selhurst next season..........

Makes perfect sense (Unless you are a Wimbledon fan).

The Doog, Tommy and AJ should get a hatful playing off the Ship - and then there's Ships goal potential too - OOOh I'm starting to get excited.