View Full Version : Akinbiyi To Stoke
Parker Jnr
28-08-2003, 01:26 PM
WALSALL boss Colin Lee is eyeing a move for much maligned Crystal Palace striker Ade Akinbiyi. Lee is unhappy with his lack of firepower at The Bescot Stadium after the departure of Brazilian marksman Junior for Derby County. "We lost Junior over the summer and we've been trying hard to replace him," said Lee. "We've just got to get on with it but it doesn't take a genius to see we are lacking an end product." The Saddlers boss is looking for added attacking options and has targeted Akinbiyi to fill the void. The 28-year-old has struggled to make his mark at Palace after another difficult spell with Leicester City, and has been told that he will not be offered a new deal at Selhurst Park. Despite the talents of Paul Merson available, Lee believes he still needs a man to put the chances away. Should he move for Akinbiyi he will be hoping the striker can return to his old Wolves and Bristol City form and rediscover the scoring touch.
Planetfootball
Could be good news:p
Gollum
28-08-2003, 01:29 PM
Well there's no quote that he's targetting Akinbiyi.
Journalistic licence again ?
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
28-08-2003, 01:31 PM
Cross everything guys!
Gooders
28-08-2003, 01:34 PM
If Ade's in the middle, what would be the point?
Les Butler
28-08-2003, 01:38 PM
Can you put a Saddle on a donkey ?
Les Butler
28-08-2003, 01:39 PM
Or a Donkey on a Saddle ?
ReadingPalace
28-08-2003, 01:45 PM
Sounds too good to be true, so probably is.
Kember was saying the other day how we should never have sold Steve Kabba. I'm sure that had we not wasted all that money on Akinbiyi, then Kabba would probably still be banging the goals in for us now. Not a bad player to have on the bench, I reckon.
Anyway, I'm just disappointed that I never got to use my 'Gabba Gabba Hey!' chant, although if you're not a fan of the Ramones, you won't know what I'm talking about (...and you should be ashamed of yourself, by the way).
Ramble over.
Shipp Ahoy!
28-08-2003, 01:49 PM
And even better news, Merson will hardly score now if Akinbadbuy is in the way! Doug, get fit soon and the top scorer spot will be yours for the taking! :D
Scroatey
28-08-2003, 01:50 PM
Walsall can't be too afraid of some high wage earners - is their chairman trying to bank-roll them to the Prem like Pompey did?
De Goey - Merson - (Akinbiyi)... what a backbone to a team!
CPFC Pete
28-08-2003, 01:53 PM
I think De Goey is at Stoke......at the mo.
ROCK'N'ROLL
28-08-2003, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by ReadingPalace
Anyway, I'm just disappointed that I never got to use my 'Gabba Gabba Hey!' chant, although if you're not a fan of the Ramones, you won't know what I'm talking about (...and you should be ashamed of yourself, by the way).
Ramble over.
Well my email adress is jabbajabbahey@........... !!! Which is a play on my surname and the Ramones!!!!!!!!!!!!
firesign
28-08-2003, 01:58 PM
Merson is Walsall's highest paid player and is getting £3,000 a week - he was on £10,000 a week at Pompey (which strangely enough is what Akinbiyi 'earns' at Palace). The move to Walsall only went through because Pompey gave Merson a parting gift of £250,000.
Barney Gumble
28-08-2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Scroatey
Walsall can't be too afraid of some high wage earners - is their chairman trying to bank-roll them to the Prem like Pompey did?
De Goey - Merson - (Akinbiyi)... what a backbone to a team!
You could not be more wrong. They have a very tight budget and are trying to do a deal with Palace for Ade reference his wages.
Colin Lee's wages budget has been cut drastically this season, by £2m. This is the first time in Walsall's history that they have survived in the 1st div 3 years on the trot, and to make it a fourth would be a good season for them.
The reason why he (and Stoke) want Ade is because Colin Lee was the man who got the best out of him at Wolves, and Tony Pullis (Stoke) was the man who got the best out of him at Bristol City.
If Steve Kember wants to know how he can PM me.
Psychokiller
28-08-2003, 02:36 PM
De Goey plays for Stoke, not Walsall!
Scroatey
28-08-2003, 02:49 PM
Yes sorry, I spent so long trying to spell "de Goey" I forgot where he was!
I really hope Akinbiyi goes, but for positive reasons, if he'd done well for us I would have been 100% behind him, but he never had a chance being bought for so much (after appearances, etc) and hardly looking useful at Leicester:
a) Let's end this debacle - the BBS will have to go back to discussing favourite sandwich fillings
b) Get Ade playing competitive football where he belongs
c) Have a free squad number and pay cheque to fill our current gap(s)
Bit worried we may have a Merson-esque pay-off to deal with though (*see Firesign's comment above)
1f8d
JamieBcpfc
28-08-2003, 04:24 PM
about time if its true
probably not though
Who Cares?
28-08-2003, 04:47 PM
In an idle moment (and desperate for any glimmer of hope that AA is on his way) I wandered onto the Walsall website where a very recent post says that AA's agent has just been on Sky saying that he is very close to joining Walsall:p
Malakite
28-08-2003, 06:41 PM
OXO Ade...lets hope we get sommet for him!
samtheeagle
28-08-2003, 07:16 PM
favourite sandwich filling eh.
got to be BLT ahhhh
cant beat it
samtheeagle
28-08-2003, 07:17 PM
seriously off akinbye
hughff
28-08-2003, 09:35 PM
If he goes we will still be paying part of his wages, whether by lump sum pay-off or on the drip. No way can Wallsall pay him enough to give up what he's on at Selhurst. I'll be glad to see the back of him if it reduces our wage bill even by a %.
One point, Kabba didn't exactly bang in the goals for us, RP so he wouldn't still be doing it. Presumably, you mean he'd've had a chance to start doing it.
Shipp Ahoy!
28-08-2003, 10:04 PM
Who cares bye bye AkinBadBuy! :lux: NOW can we sign someone else please?!
forsells no1 fan
28-08-2003, 10:09 PM
Nah you got the wrong end of the stick.It says Colin Lee is looking for a striker to add some firepower to his front line - dosent this rule AA out straight away?
hong_kong_hg
28-08-2003, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by hughff
One point, Kabba didn't exactly bang in the goals for us, RP so he wouldn't still be doing it. Presumably, you mean he'd've had a chance to start doing it.
What, one goal in two sub appearances last seaspn? I'd call that a pretty good ratio myself :)
BringBackSasa
28-08-2003, 10:40 PM
Hopefully with a shotgun.
kettle
28-08-2003, 10:42 PM
but who would we sign? defender or striker? oh why did adebola go :)
nicknewell
28-08-2003, 10:49 PM
Saddlers Target Akinbiyi
Hopefully with a shotgun
LOL
limited_edition
28-08-2003, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by kettle
but who would we sign? defender or striker? oh why did adebola go :) Defender please. We let Adebola go because he was crap in the air and couldn't score in a brothel.
250k to get rid of AA is a bargin.....trust me!
I thought it was SK who said Kabba couldn't trap a bag of cement??
Harrow Eagle
29-08-2003, 12:44 PM
This is from www.footballtransfers.info as confirmed speculation!
28/08/2003 Ade Akinbiyi ST Crystal Palace Walsall Free
Akinbiyi's agent, Andrew Mills: "It's something that's been spoken about on a number of occasions. Obviously with Colin Lee there it's not something I think he would say no to."
28/08/2003 Ade Akinbiyi ST Crystal Palace Walsall £?
Palace manager, Steve Kember: "There has been some interest shown in Ade. That might resolve itself in the next week."
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
29-08-2003, 02:21 PM
I wanna be able to come back on this thread next week and see Akinbiyi gone!
Clapham Grand
29-08-2003, 04:42 PM
well we're running out of time if the transfer window closes on Sunday (and if it apllies/is being adhered to by Division One?!)
nicknewell
29-08-2003, 05:17 PM
quick hurry get rid quickly
Dillenger
29-08-2003, 05:28 PM
his agents now playing it all down saying talks have hit a snag and there hasnt been contact since.
he's supposed to be on about 12K PW at palace, i doubt walsall could give him any more than 3K max. maybe we've said we'll pay walsall 3K PW therefore he's on 6K - still means halving his wages and moving home. i've got a bad feeling he'll end up sitting out his contract with us.
c_block_lad
29-08-2003, 05:48 PM
Good buy for Walsall, first-team football and the creative Merson will bring joy for Akinbiyi and Walsall.
Clapham Grand
30-08-2003, 11:43 PM
Quotes from agent saying talks have stalled - clubs haven't talked to each other in a week now...
andymorris
31-08-2003, 07:28 AM
Must be over wages, bet the greedy git would refer stay and not play football. Than move and take a pay cut.
c_block_lad
31-08-2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by kettle
oh why did adebola go :)
Because he was c**p!
Clapham Grand
31-08-2003, 01:18 PM
I notice he hasn't set Coventry alight yet
nicknewell
31-08-2003, 01:45 PM
oh just piss off ade
Ruskin Old Boy
01-09-2003, 08:03 AM
1f5b
Originally posted by kettle
oh why did adebola go :)
Coventry offered him £1000 a week more than Palace ...
Ollie Ox
01-09-2003, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by Clapham Grand
I notice he hasn't set Coventry alight yet
Adebola in arson shocker
Gladys Allover
01-09-2003, 12:47 PM
I appreciate that in the new politically correct world we live in, it can be very difficult to sack employees, and to do so employers need to record evidence of poor practice, inability to do a job, etc etc
Surely it cannot be too difficult to get a highlights package together featuring his best misses, Leicester fans testimonials etc and simply terminate his contract for lack of qualification to play at this level?
Is a more sensible version of this scenario viable?
RichieG
01-09-2003, 04:20 PM
No.....why do so many people have such a problem with the contract concept, it protects the clubs as much as it protects the players, and it works, but there is no fall back for anyone stupid enough to sign a donkey on £10k per week!
adrenalin john
01-09-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by BringBackSasa
Hopefully with a shotgun.
Laugh out loud
Gerry from Sussex
01-09-2003, 11:13 PM
We should give away. His wages alone will fund a new signing. I really hoped he would be gone by today - it's like a dark cloud from TF hanging over Selhurts and is going to hold us back for months unless SJ can scrape a few more pennies out of his piggy bank.
Gooders
02-09-2003, 06:49 AM
Yesterdays deadline was surely irrelevant to Akinbiyi, unless you think that a Premiership club might have signed him?
Terrace Bickle
02-09-2003, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Gooders
Yesterdays deadline was surely irrelevant to Akinbiyi,
Akinbiyi seems irrelevant, lets just let the money grabbing waste of space rot in the reserves.
Beanie
02-09-2003, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Terrace Bickle
Akinbiyi seems irrelevant, lets just let the money grabbing waste of space rot in the reserves.
As SK (and John Barron) sees the reserves as a place to develop players who could feature in the first team, the question has to be whether AA will even make that side.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
02-09-2003, 08:10 AM
I cant even see him making the reserve side. Cant we pay someone to take him?!!
pallet
02-09-2003, 08:22 AM
This is going to sound like I have lost my mind, but I think if he goes somewhere else he will do well.He is under so much pressure everytime he takes the pitch at Palace I dont think he can cope, if he went somewhere out of the limelight he could regain his confidence. We should loan him out, getting him scoring again and flog him for whatever we can get.
Cleon
02-09-2003, 08:39 AM
Akinbiyi could do relatively well playing in a team that plays to his strengths (such as they are). Palace are simply the wrong team for him, because we require players who can read the game, pass, have a good first touch etc.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
02-09-2003, 08:51 AM
Wow, is this some sympathy for Akinbiyi i see?! ;)
Cleon
02-09-2003, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by CPFC Cheerleader Observer
Wow, is this some sympathy for Akinbiyi i see?! ;)
Nah, just trying to talk him up incase Colin Lee surfs this website and thinks he'll give Akinbiyi another go, but don't tell anyone...
Panther
02-09-2003, 09:05 AM
If he surfs it in any detail he won't be encouraged.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
02-09-2003, 09:26 AM
Im sure Colin Lee will realise the potential in Akinbiyi. He is an intelligent man and wont go by what us lot say.
(If you're reading this Colin, BUY HIM!) :D
Celestial Empire
02-09-2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by pallet
This is going to sound like I have lost my mind, but I think if he goes somewhere else he will do well.He is under so much pressure everytime he takes the pitch at Palace I dont think he can cope, if he went somewhere out of the limelight he could regain his confidence. We should loan him out, getting him scoring again and flog him for whatever we can get.
It's all about his head isn't it ?
If he feels hard-done by, wants to prove himself, just needs a new start .... he could ressurect his career and do well, he obviously had some skills.
If he is disillusioned, cynical, disappointed, feels his best days are behind him and is more interested in music etc :rolleyes: he will stay at Palace for another 18months, or con someone else.
It looks like the second case.
Strange, because when he came back from the injury, he seemed fired-up and said all the right things. So was it just TF's demise / SK's well-known views, that demotivated him ?
Barney Gumble
02-09-2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by CPFC Cheerleader Observer
Im sure Colin Lee will realise the potential in Akinbiyi. He is an intelligent man and wont go by what us lot say.
(If you're reading this Colin, BUY HIM!) :D
Colin Lee does not need to read this site, he was Ade's manager at Wolves.
Neil, yes, another one!
02-09-2003, 11:20 AM
if Dougie and Shipps are/get injured for a long period of time (god forbid), and money isn't gonna be splashed on a replacement, we've have to play him/have him on the bench, i'm afraid.
Beanie
02-09-2003, 11:34 AM
1f82
Originally posted by Neil, yes, another one!
if Dougie and Shipps are/get injured for a long period of time (god forbid), and money isn't gonna be splashed on a replacement, we've have to play him/have him on the bench, i'm afraid.
He'll be after AJ, Black, Williams, Routledge and the lads up front in the reserves/academy, such as Tariq Nabil, I think. After all he didn't look like scoring, so why not try out the youngsters. If they don't score at least they'll be getting experience for the future and we're no worse off.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
02-09-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Neil, yes, another one!
if Dougie and Shipps are/get injured for a long period of time (god forbid), and money isn't gonna be splashed on a replacement, we've have to play him/have him on the bench, i'm afraid.
It wont ever get that desperate.
Id rather have Kit upfront than play AA! :p
Neil, yes, another one!
02-09-2003, 12:16 PM
i hope you're both right, but if the goals dry up....
SLP reporting he may be off to Gillingham
wedgetail
02-09-2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by Neil, yes, another one!
i hope you're both right, but if the goals dry up....
I'd rather play with 10 men, at least then AA couldn't block other player's shots.
With Gray now gone I hope we can get rid of him soon then SK may be able to bring in some new faces.
Lords Eagle
02-09-2003, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Dave
SLP reporting he may be off to Gillingham
I went to Gills v Burnley the other week and he said he wouldn't be surprised if Gillingham bought him, and he does get the odd whisper correct.
adrenalin john
02-09-2003, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by Neil, yes, another one!
if Dougie and Shipps are/get injured for a long period of time (god forbid), and money isn't gonna be splashed on a replacement, we've have to play him/have him on the bench, i'm afraid.
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I would prefer Simon Jordan to play over AA. Let's face it neither would score but Jordan might go closer.
Kirby
02-09-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Lords Eagle
I went to Gills v Burnley the other week and he said he wouldn't be surprised if Gillingham bought him, and he does get the odd whisper correct.
Who?! :confused:
RichieG
02-09-2003, 09:13 PM
I think he means Dave.....
Beanie
02-09-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Neil, yes, another one!
i hope you're both right, but if the goals dry up....
.....we attempt to fix it by playing somebody who hasn't looked like hitting a barn door. Sorry, don't quite get that one.
I actually agree with points above - in the right team, playing the right style AA could do well, but Palace isn't that team and SKs ideas on how to play isn't AAs style.
Daniel_Nash
02-09-2003, 09:35 PM
02/09/2003 Ade Akinbiyi ST Crystal Palace Walsall Free
Walsall manager, Colin Lee: "This club has done everything it can to secure his services because the owner, Jeff Bonser, has allowed us to step outside the existing budget to get him.
"I spent most of Sunday night on the phone to him and he knows how keen we are to get him, but unfortunately we are competing against two other clubs.
"I just got a feeling that we might miss out, but we will have to wait and see."
Gooders
03-09-2003, 06:38 AM
Are you saying that people are actually fighting over him?
cdm61
03-09-2003, 07:01 AM
Most managers can't get past the proven but poor form syndrome. It must be Walsall/Gillingham/Real Madrid
Ollie Ox
03-09-2003, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by Daniel_Nash
02/09/2003 Ade Akinbiyi ST Crystal Palace Walsall Free
Walsall manager, Colin Lee: "This club has done everything it can to secure his services because the owner, Jeff Bonser, has allowed us to step outside the existing budget to get him.
"I spent most of Sunday night on the phone to him and he knows how keen we are to get him, but unfortunately we are competing against two other clubs.
"I just got a feeling that we might miss out, but we will have to wait and see."
Wow this sounds like we will definetly be getting rid very soon. joy abounds:lux:
Terrace Bickle
03-09-2003, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by Daniel_Nash
02/09/2003 but unfortunately we are competing against two other clubs.
:eek: I bet that's going to cause a few sleepless nights around the Nationwide.:lux:
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
03-09-2003, 10:23 AM
I dont believe it!!!! But, this is great news! SELL SELL SELL!!!!! :D
Daniel_Nash
03-09-2003, 10:23 AM
That quote thing i put up is from footballtransfers.info confirmed speculation section.
Beanie
03-09-2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Daniel_Nash
That quote thing i put up is from footballtransfers.info confirmed speculation section.
What on earth is "confirmed speculation"?:rolleyes: :D
Daniel_Nash
03-09-2003, 10:26 AM
Means it's not just paper talk, and there is actually some quote from the manager or player :p
Daddy Long
03-09-2003, 10:27 AM
1fa1
I hope the pikeys get him
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
03-09-2003, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Daniel_Nash
Means it's not just paper talk, and there is actually some quote from the manager or player :p
So like, someone ACTUALLY WANTS Akinbiyi?!!!! its not just a rumour?! :eek:
adrenalin john
03-09-2003, 10:38 AM
I would prefer to sell akinbyi, than buy Ronaldo (the proper one). Please let it happen.
Daniel_Nash
03-09-2003, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by CPFC Cheerleader Observer
So like, someone ACTUALLY WANTS Akinbiyi?!!!! its not just a rumour?! :eek:
Yep!!
football365.com has something about Stoke (?) wanting him still.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
03-09-2003, 11:12 AM
Blimey! Is it christmas and my birthday all into one?! We could actually get rid of him?!!!! :D
Gazza2
03-09-2003, 11:51 AM
Gillingham here he comes
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
03-09-2003, 12:07 PM
Anyone know what the fee will be? I mean, do we have to pay these teams to have him?! ;)
MARK PALACE TILL I DIE
03-09-2003, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by CPFC Cheerleader Observer
Anyone know what the fee will be? I mean, do we have to pay these teams to have him?! ;)
I bet youre not far off the mark with your comment.
We will never recover the monies paid for him.
He will also be on a mega bucks contract.
We may have to let him go to simply get him off the wage bill and my be even subsidising some of his future contract.
:eek:
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
03-09-2003, 12:38 PM
Even if he goes for nothing, atleast we'll not be playing his wages anymore!
Although, he looks dead cool on my Pro Evolution Squad with his funky haircut! :D
I hope that with Hesslewally being linked with Wet Ham, Gillingham may be prepared to buy him Akinbiyi to convince him to stay.....let's hope
Phil O'Sophical
03-09-2003, 06:26 PM
From Ananova
Stoke silent on Akinbiyi rumours
Stoke are remaining tight-lipped on rumours that boss Tony Pulis is trying to bring Ade Akinbiyi back to the Britannia Stadium.
The Crystal Palace forward scored two goals in four matches on loan last season, sparking rumours that Pulis was keen to sign him on a permanent basis.
"The club has no comment to make about these reports," said a spokesman for the Potters.
Story filed: 16:35 Wednesday 3rd September 2003
Ollie Ox
03-09-2003, 06:34 PM
If we all close our eyes really tight and believe with all our might, this may just happen.
Mong!
03-09-2003, 07:12 PM
but even if he does go, he will get plus 20 goals this season and score a hat trick over us. Has anybody never thought of that?
75points
03-09-2003, 09:21 PM
I think we should include a clause that insists that he plays against us!
wedgetail
03-09-2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by Mong!
but even if he does go, he will get plus 20 goals this season and score a hat trick over us. Has anybody never thought of that?
The drugs I'd need to really think that....
pete eagle
03-09-2003, 10:40 PM
I'll pay for his train fare to Gillingham
Clapham Grand
04-09-2003, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by pete eagle
I'll pay for his train fare to Gillingham
One way I trust:o
Panther
04-09-2003, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Mong!
but even if he does go, he will get plus 20 goals this season and score a hat trick over us. Has anybody never thought of that?
It'd still be worth it to get rid of him since it's clear he's going nowhere with us.
Cleon
04-09-2003, 09:32 AM
Please God
Please God
Please God
Lose Ade
Lose Ade
Lose Ade
etc.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
04-09-2003, 11:02 AM
I know what i'll forfeit a nice big chrimbo pressie for! For AA to s*d off! :D
Potter still in Akinbiyi race 4 Sep
Stoke City manager Tony Pulis has confirmed that he still hopes to sign Crystal Palace striker Ade Akinbiyi, despite competition from both Walsall and Gillingham.
Akinbiyi spent two months on loan at the Britannia Stadium last season, scoring two vital goals as the Potters narrowly avoided relegation, and Pulis is keen to work with the player again.
He told the club's official website: "It's no secret we have been chasing Ade, everyone knows that and it is also common knowledge that Walsall and Gillingham are also keen.
"Ade knows Walsall boss Colin Lee from their time at Wolves together, and of course he knows Gillingham as a former player. So each club has something going for them.
"One of those clubs has made a better financial offer than us, but at the end of the day he is going to have to decide what he wants to go for.
"If he comes here he knows me and knows how I would work with him, he knows this club and knows how good our fans are. They would love him."
Pulis first worked with Akinbiyi during his time at charge at Gillingham, for whom the striker enjoyed a successful spell scoring 28 times in 63 league games.
1fa8
Cleon
04-09-2003, 12:10 PM
Very promising. Akinbiyi may do well elsewhere, but we just want him off our payroll please!
adrenalin john
04-09-2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Dave
Quite astonishing. Is it really possible that 3 clubs are interested in the headless chicken on steriods. (with a gay hairdresser on acid) (as well as being accompanied by a cocaine riddled agent fuelled by 100% supergrade finest GREED)
Clapham Grand
04-09-2003, 12:23 PM
Let's have a auction betwen the three of them!
I start the biding on behalf of Gillingham: "one old tyre and a dog on a rope"
adrenalin john
04-09-2003, 01:11 PM
God, although I am not authorised to do so I, on behalf of CPFC, accept your offer with undue alacrity.
I do so in full and gleeful knowledge that you have been well and truly ripped off, sucker.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
04-09-2003, 01:26 PM
I dont care where he goes to aslong as he's not on our payroll. if we can get rid of Gray, Akinbiyi and Granville, id say we've cleaned out all our excess money grabbers.
AshfordianEagle
04-09-2003, 02:23 PM
Check out this report on the BBC website, apparently, Adi has had a colourful career and has cost over £12 in transfer fees :D :D Akinbiyi the bargain (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/crystal_palace/3081108.stm)
GreatGonzo
04-09-2003, 02:32 PM
Says he has agreed a settlement with us!
Have we released him then? Or is it a settlement conditional on him getting a contrcat elsewhere?
GreatGonzo
04-09-2003, 02:34 PM
But i guess someone will be sad to see the loss of a good friend!
http://gallery.cpfc.org/BZPotY/CNV00010
Gark Moldberg
04-09-2003, 02:35 PM
If we've agreed a settlement am I correct in presuming that we won't get a penny for him?
fieldy
04-09-2003, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Gark Moldberg
If we've agreed a settlement am I correct in presuming that we won't get a penny for him?
Who gives a toss, what were you expecting us to recoup £2 million of the £2.4 million we outlayed? Christ Gark you eternal optimist!
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
04-09-2003, 03:25 PM
We'll never get anywhere near the money we paid for him. OR the wages we've paid him since. But the quicker we can sell him on the better we'll be.
Gooders
04-09-2003, 03:32 PM
Agreed a settlement?
It means that we have agreed how much as a percentage of his potential future earnings we will give him to go now. We save on a proportion of what we will have to pay him, and he can accept a lower wage elsewhere as a result.
There will be no fee.
Very similar to what happened in the case of Mersons transfer to Walsall.
Do u think they could take Granville as well?
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
04-09-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Tim
Do u think they could take Granville as well?
That'll be handy! Great bit of business for Palace that deal would be! :p
pedro
04-09-2003, 04:51 PM
Just missed the teleprinter thing on Sky Sports but I thought I read that Ade had actually signed for Gillingham, were my eyes deceiving me?
FourtyTwo
04-09-2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by GOD
I start the biding on behalf of Gillingham: "one old tyre and a dog on a rope"
Sold! :hi: :hi: :hi:
pedro
04-09-2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by pedro
Just missed the teleprinter thing on Sky Sports but I thought I read that Ade had actually signed for Gillingham, were my eyes deceiving me?
Just saw it again, it said nothing of the sort and I have an appointment with Specsavers tomorrow at 10am. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by AshfordianEagle
Check out this report on the BBC website, apparently, Adi has had a colourful career and has cost over £12 in transfer fees :D :D Akinbiyi the bargain (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/crystal_palace/3081108.stm)
They've fixed it now :( It was much funnier when it said £12 :) (If only we had only spent £2.50 on him)
LLCOOLSTEVE
04-09-2003, 06:00 PM
He will go on and score a hatful of goals for whoever he signs for.
samtheeagle
04-09-2003, 06:12 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/crystal_palace/3081108.stm
check it
Can anyone confirm: I thought the 2m+ for Akinbiyi was dependent on appearances, goals and Palace winning promotion. I think it was mentioned that Palace only paid 200,000 UKP for him.
I am sure gettting him off the wage bill was the main thing. I am sure Jordan will be so relieved if it is true, he may give Gray away for free.
wedgetail
04-09-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
He will go on and score a hatful of goals for whoever he signs for.
you must have a very small hat.
1fb6
glaziers fan
04-09-2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
He will go on and score a hatful of goals for whoever he signs for.
agreed.
Beanie
04-09-2003, 09:58 PM
I see on Sky that Akinbiyi has "agreed a settlement" with Palace.
Can anybody confirm? Does that mean he off the wage bill and can go anywhere on a free?
PS - I also agree, for the right team who are happy with a "battering ram" style he will score goals.
arussell
05-09-2003, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by GreatGonzo
But i guess someone will be sad to see the loss of a good friend!
Kollinko all over again eh Gonzo ;)
Terrace Bickle
05-09-2003, 07:55 AM
At least we can rest easy in the knowledge that Ade will be scuppering either Stoke's or the Gill's play off plans, apart from scoring the obligatory goals against us of course.:grrr:
Geezer
05-09-2003, 08:09 AM
That bacon and egg sandwich is repeating on me now!!
Geezer
05-09-2003, 08:33 AM
was a beauty, filled the office.
adrenalin john
05-09-2003, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
He will go on and score a hatful of goals for whoever he signs for.
Possibly, but given his age I am not sure any under 9's sides will ba able to sign him.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
05-09-2003, 09:53 AM
So, whats going on then? What this agreement? Has he left Palace??
Cleon
05-09-2003, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by CPFC Cheerleader Observer
So, whats going on then? What this agreement? Has he left Palace??
Nobody knows, but we are going to speculate for ages.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
05-09-2003, 09:59 AM
Oh indeedy! Much more speculation to come! This topic is only 6 pages long so far! ;)
Crunchie
05-09-2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by AJ
Can anyone confirm: I thought the 2m+ for Akinbiyi was dependent on appearances, goals and Palace winning promotion. I think it was mentioned that Palace only paid 200,000 UKP for him.
I am sure gettting him off the wage bill was the main thing. I am sure Jordan will be so relieved if it is true, he may give Gray away for free.
Absolutely correct.
The 2.2M quoted was the total Transfer fee that could possibly be paid.
Leicester were in the same situation than as we are in now. They just wanted him off their pay-roll.
They were likely to go down and heavily in debt at the time. (They later went into administration).
I am not sure how much we have spent on him so far, and more importantly how much we will have to pay pay him to get him off our books, so he'll move on.
rhiannapaul
05-09-2003, 02:51 PM
he was total crap so good riddance he couldn't hit a house with a shotgun from 5 feet ..
Wallsall have just signed Horsefield from Birmingscum so that's one (barn) door shut for Panicbyeie :(
HappyLarry
05-09-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by GOD
Wallsall have just signed Horsefield from Birmingscum so that's one (barn) door shut for Panicbyeie :(
It was Wigan that signed Horsefield so theres still hope!:p
Daddy Long
05-09-2003, 03:09 PM
I think he'll score goals wherever he goes.
No not in unopposed training but for real.
GreatGonzo
05-09-2003, 03:09 PM
Thought you knew everything God - useless!
Dark Star
05-09-2003, 06:05 PM
Saw a quote from Mark McGhee saying that he was looking for a striker now that Sadlier has retired and McKammon is injured. :o :moo:
Chickereagle
06-09-2003, 07:15 AM
Today's Mail reports that "Ade Akinbyi has ended a dismal spell at Crystal Palace by signing a three year contract with Stoke on a guaranteed £250,000 per season .... Stoke have picked him up on a free after taking him on loan at the end of last season."
Ollie Ox
06-09-2003, 07:21 AM
Party time Woo ha !!!
75points
06-09-2003, 08:59 AM
Hope CPFC aren't stumping up the other 250k a year he gets with us !
Russboy
06-09-2003, 09:28 AM
I see above that rather than 2.2m the actual cost of AA was 200k - so does that mean instead of the often mentioned 10k a week wages the jerk is/was on was actually only 1k???
Beanie
06-09-2003, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by Russboy
I see above that rather than 2.2m the actual cost of AA was 200k - so does that mean instead of the often mentioned 10k a week wages the jerk is/was on was actually only 1k???
I suspect the actual figure is somewhat higher than than the inital £200k or whatever, but not near the full £2.2m. Personally it was not the fee that bothered me, it was the salary being spent month in month out. Perhaps now part of that salary can be spent on a more deserving player - like like a left sided defender/midfield and a bit more used to offer Hayden a bit of a rise. I'm sure that both could be accomodated and still make a small overall saving.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
07-09-2003, 08:06 AM
201a
BYE BYE AKINBADBUY!!!!!!
:hi: :lux: :hi:
JamieBcpfc
07-09-2003, 10:07 AM
au revoir, we wont miss you
Sorry to be negative, but I don't think this has happened yet. AA has not yet joined any other team. Maybe Monday?
Ollie Ox
07-09-2003, 10:47 AM
bum
Phil O'Sophical
07-09-2003, 11:19 AM
Yeah, nothing more on the Stoke City web site which is running an AA update (be first to know by text for £5000) piece
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
07-09-2003, 03:13 PM
Still havent heard anything official??
Kirby
07-09-2003, 04:35 PM
Yeah he's signed for Stoke, hence why NO-ONE has posted anything about it. :rolleyes:
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
07-09-2003, 08:58 PM
I still wont believe it until I see him in their Shirt! :p
Salisbury
07-09-2003, 09:26 PM
From a Stoke City website...
Akinbiyi looks set to join either Stoke City or Walsall and the deal should be done by monday morning. The Update >
Stoke could shortly be announcing Akinbiyi as their new signing. The striker was on loan in the potteries last year and scored "That" goal that kept City in Division One.
He has been spotted reguarly about the Britannia and has apparently settled his contract now with Crystal and looks set to sign for another club.
Stoke City refuse to comment but it is believed they are in negotiations.
hernebayeagle
07-09-2003, 09:52 PM
its a good job they are targeting him
as he couldnt do it on his own as he doesnt know where the target is
hernebayeagle
07-09-2003, 09:58 PM
i dont care where he goes as long as he plays against us
we need a few clean sheets
BUNGLE
07-09-2003, 10:02 PM
His clearly gonna score when we do come up against him.
hernebayeagle
07-09-2003, 10:09 PM
I know they normally do
but he aint good enough
never has been
illeven lay odds
twickenhameagle
07-09-2003, 10:31 PM
maybe de goey upfront, and akinbiyi in goal
twickenhameagle
07-09-2003, 10:47 PM
surely that would mean a shot on target then, something that akinbiyi is clearly incapable of.
cdm61
08-09-2003, 08:15 AM
Observer said yesterday that he'd signed and was on £250k per year or £5000 per week just. Its an easy life being a crap footballer.
Martin H
08-09-2003, 08:35 AM
I am sure the Manchester copy of Saturday's Daily Mail said he had signed for Stoke. But not seen anything else. Not even on Newsnow etc.
pedro
08-09-2003, 08:37 AM
He has been good in the First Division in the past and I think he will come good again and personally I hope he does as I think he deserves a bit of luck. The abuse he suffered from Leicester fans was bad enough but for us to join in as well, particularly as he has hardly played was a little OTT. I cannot think of another modern day player who has had to take so much stick from his own supporters as he has had to do over the last few years. At least he is now going to play for club whose manager and supporters rate him, it is going to be interesting to see how he reacts to a little bit of encouragement. Good luck Ade and I hope you ram the abuse back down the throats of all Leicester and Palace fans alike.
sydnsteve
08-09-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by pedro
He has been good in the First Division in the past and I think he will come good again and personally I hope he does as I think he deserves a bit of luck. The abuse he suffered from Leicester fans was bad enough but for us to join in as well, particularly as he has hardly played was a little OTT. I cannot think of another modern day player who has had to take so much stick from his own supporters as he has had to do over the last few years. At least he is now going to play for club whose manager and supporters rate him, it is going to be interesting to see how he reacts to a little bit of encouragement. Good luck Ade and I hope you ram the abuse back down the throats of all Leicester and Palace fans alike.
This is complete nonsense. Most of the Palace crowd gave AA support, even after a series of performances that would have disgraced a Saturday park game. I hope that wherever he goes he does well, but if he does it will be a major surprise after the totally ineffectual displays he has given at Palace.
hernebayeagle
08-09-2003, 09:18 AM
Pedro
did you watch him play much for palace?
i dont think so
or maybe you go out on the lash with him thats why you like him so much
he reminds me of tommy langley in the amount of misses he had in a palace shirt but at least tom could
a)control the ball
b)pass the ball
c)score some goals
hernebayeagle
08-09-2003, 09:25 AM
I agree with sydnsteve
we gave that man so many chances
and so did our midfielders and other forwards for that matter
but the fact is he totally underperfomed when the chances came.
He got himself in great positions to score and could lose his marker
but if you cant head the ball towards goal
are playing as if your wearing wellington boots when you try to stop the ball control the ball pass the ball you have to hold your hands up and say im no good
ive never seen any body miss so many easy chances since the cup game early 80s against doncaster when murphy had a nightmare,even rounding the keeper in that game and misskicking rfrom 2 yards out
20a4
kolinkins
08-09-2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by hernebayeagle
Pedro
did you watch him play much for palace?
i dont think so
or maybe you go out on the lash with him thats why you like him so much
he reminds me of tommy langley in the amount of misses he had in a palace shirt but at least tom could
a)control the ball
b)pass the ball
c)score some goals
if you read his post, you will see he says Ade has done well in the first division in the past. i dont know about you, but when he played against us in the past, he tore our defence to shreds, and i remember thinking 'i wish we had someone like him'. he is clearly devoid of all confidence, for which palace fans, injuries and SK have not helped. i wish him mountains of good luck whoever he joins. and as long as we win, i would love it if he scored against us.
hernebayeagle
08-09-2003, 09:27 AM
did francis buy him?
adrenalin john
08-09-2003, 09:31 AM
Has he actually signed for stoke yet as the observer suggested yesterday? I really don't care how he performs for Stoke or anyone else for that matter, I just want him out of the club.
As far as i am concerned he is simply the worst signing we have ever made - bar none.
hernebayeagle
08-09-2003, 09:38 AM
John
not the worst
remember Brolin?
and as for signings off the pitch
what about goldberg and venables
one man who couldnt run a bath let alone a football team
and the other who didnt care as long as he got paid loads
Cleon
08-09-2003, 09:46 AM
Infact, I think Crystal Palace fans were extraordinarily patient with a striker who clearly was never going to work within the rest of the team. I wish him the best of luck (wherever he goes - and I assume he's gone if he's reached an agreement with us).
The reports suggest that he fired his agent to push this deal through - perhaps that demonstrates that Mr Mills influence over various CP players is waning, which can only be good news re: Hayden Mullins.
Originally posted by hernebayeagle
John
not the worst
remember Brolin?
Yes I remember him, played for nothing initially to try and resurrect his career and showed some flashes of his former ability(his debut against Everton was excellent) it was a shame he ultimately failed and has been the subject of as much ridicule really. Unlike the talentless AA who was getting pasi shedloads to be our worst signing of all time, and needed to be paid off to avoid him bleeding us dry for another two years.
RednBlue
08-09-2003, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by hernebayeagle
ive never seen any body miss so many easy chances since the cup game early 80s against doncaster when murphy had a nightmare,even rounding the keeper in that game and misskicking rfrom 2 yards out I have dreams like that!!
adrenalin john
08-09-2003, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by 917L
Yes I remember him, played for nothing initially to try and resurrect his career and showed some flashes of his former ability(his debut against Everton was excellent) it was a shame he ultimately failed and has been the subject of as much ridicule really. Unlike the talentless AA who was getting pasi shedloads to be our worst signing of all time, and needed to be paid off to avoid him bleeding us dry for another two years.
Exactly my sentiments.
I also remember how bad and expensive Valerian Ismael and Mrs Michelle 'can't go out in a strong wind' Padovano were but AA is a whole different level of shit. It is like comparing regular diarrohea to aemobic dysentry.
hernebayeagle
08-09-2003, 10:03 AM
I agree again
if he was in a third world country and had to be able to earn his living to provide for his family he would have a pot belly by now
pedro
08-09-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by hernebayeagle
Pedro
did you watch him play much for palace?
i dont think so
or maybe you go out on the lash with him thats why you like him so much
he reminds me of tommy langley in the amount of misses he had in a palace shirt but at least tom could
a)control the ball
b)pass the ball
c)score some goals
Yes I did watch him and yes he was poor but the guy was on a hiding to nothing from the moment he joined us. He had an absolute nightmare at Leicester and the media took such sick enjoyment in continually showing his misses he almost had his own slot on The Premiership. I agree that it is better for him to move on to another club for yet another fresh start, I just think the abuse he has been getting on these boards is a little OTT. Everytime he pulls on a football shirt he TRIES to earn his wages not like a few others I can mention, (one player in particular who has the bare faced cheek to ask the club he took the pi$$ out of to drop their fee demands so he can play in the Premiership!) Save your abuse for people who deserve it, he could do something like Bogarde at Chelsea and just sit in our reserves and take a nice big cheque home each month but he isn't, all he wants to do is to try and succeed in a sport that is continually knocking him. A lesser man would have just given up but his attitude, if not his ability, is first class and that is why I have respect for him and wish him all the best away from Selhurst Park.
adrenalin john
08-09-2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by pedro
Save your abuse for people who deserve it, he could do something like Bogarde at Chelsea and just sit in our reserves and take a nice big cheque home each month but he isn't, all he wants to do is to try and succeed in a sport that is continually knocking him. A lesser man would have just given up but his attitude, if not his ability, is first class and that is why I have respect for him and wish him all the best away from Selhurst Park.
So he has refused his wages this month has he? As he and his angelic agent so dutifully look for a new club, and of course he won't be demanding a pay off as he moves down the pay scale.
I agree that it is not his fault that TF was stupid enough to buy and pay him ludicrous wages, but we paid for his very expensive knee surgery to enable him to carry on taking loads of money out of the club while putting nothing back in. If he was so anxious to play football again and re-establish his reputation why didn't he join a new club back in July when it was clear he would never play for us again.
Again I agree that everything he has done has been within his rights but don't ask me to respect or wish well to a selfish, useless lump of overpaid muscle.
1f8e
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
08-09-2003, 12:19 PM
Neither Palace or Stoke's official websites have nothing official about it!
Stoke's website still has the article about them being interested but there's competition from 2 other clubs. So, has he gone or what?!!!!
pedro
08-09-2003, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by adrenalin john
Again I agree that everything he has done has been within his rights but don't ask me to respect or wish well to a selfish, useless lump of overpaid muscle.
I take it he didn't get your player of the year vote then! :D
adrenalin john
08-09-2003, 03:09 PM
Pedro, it seems mystic meg's position is under threat.
pedro
08-09-2003, 03:19 PM
To be honest your view on Akinbiyi is probably the same as mine for my best friend Julian, apart from the muscle bit of course.
Kirby
08-09-2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by CPFC Cheerleader Observer
Neither Palace or Stoke's official websites have nothing official about it!
Stoke's website still has the article about them being interested but there's competition from 2 other clubs. So, has he gone or what?!!!!
Think you've answered your own question :rolleyes:
Shoreditch CPFC
08-09-2003, 05:19 PM
Yesterday's Observer said he had gone to Stoke and would earn £250k pa. It also listed his total transfer fees (about £12m I think) and mentioned he drives a Porsche and 2 Mercs.
Shoreditch CPFC
08-09-2003, 05:21 PM
Sorry, just seen this is in the other badbuyi thread. Please feel free to delete if any mods can be bothered.
hernebayeagle
09-09-2003, 12:37 AM
Hi shoreditch
what do you think of pedro?
is he AAs gay lover or something
the man is useless
has done nothing for us
it just shows us what a pile of turd Francis was
even Burt Head was better than francis and mullery(god i hate that man)was probably better too
still the way chelsea are buying overated players at the moment maybe they can offer us 10 times what AA is worth we could do with an extra £10 in the bank
hughff
09-09-2003, 01:07 AM
hernebayeagle, two questions:
1. Bert Head is a Palace legend. How can you even allude that he is in the same class as Francis and Mullery?
2. Are you seriously suggesting that akinbiyi is worth a million?
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
09-09-2003, 08:05 AM
Maybe AA is worth a million. But that million isnt a million pounds! ;)
kestoneagle
09-09-2003, 08:12 AM
As everyone except SJ and Francis knew..he's a pretty good second division striker and an average first division one. He certainly doesn't deserve the money he is being paid but equally doesn't deserve all the critisism for taking that money if offered. What most CPFC fans want is for him to lower his salary ideas to something nearer reality and accept a move away to get first team football and close yet another expensive chapter of our transfer market story.
Gazza2
09-09-2003, 08:36 AM
Can't believe the grief the guy is getting. I do not think that many of us would take a voluntary pay cut at work, even if we did feel that our pay was more then we merited. I, for one, certainly would not.
Gooders
09-09-2003, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by Gazza2
Can't believe the grief the guy is getting. I do not think that many of us would take a voluntary pay cut at work, even if we did feel that our pay was more then we merited. I, for one, certainly would not.
I would.
If the goalposts had moved (which they have) and my job could no longer command the salary that it once did (which it can't), I wouldn't have a whole lot of choice (which I don't).
It's a question of supply and demand, as always.
If he (and others) want to continue to make a living in their chosen industry they will soon have to make some hard choices, just like the rest of us.
Spender
09-09-2003, 09:09 AM
I dont blame AA. The fault is in TF and SJ signing him on the terms they did when any informed football source knew AA to be just a reasonable first division striker.
I would have taken the deal AA was offered by Palace and Im blowed if I would walk away from the contract wages he is getting week in week out for the good of a Club that has not given me a full season free of injury to show what I can do.
I groaned liked the rest of the football world when SJ let TF sign AA because he has only limited ability and was an expensive signing. But I do believe that a First Division Club who supports him and plays to his strengths (pace and power) will in future get 15 goals a season in Division One out of AA. Given support, confidence and played to his potential I rate him as highly as AJ.
Dont blame AA for the errors of TF and SJ.
Panther
09-09-2003, 09:11 AM
Of course he can stay here and pick up his wages for doing FA but what happens at the end of his contract - who would then pay him? It's a short enough career anyway, so I should have thought he was best advised to swallow his pride, take a pay cut and keep playing. If he's any good (and his history suggests he can score at a lower level) he might even re-establish himself but it's clearly not going to happen at Palace.
Gazza2
09-09-2003, 09:19 AM
Yes, but if u had a water tight contract saying that your Company is going to pay you X amount for the next 18 months (and u knew that no matter what u do they r not going to renew the contract after it expires), there is no way u r going to agree to a wage reduction. U would simply sit out the contract and then negotoiate a lower paid one with another employer. Why go for the lower wages now, when u can wait another 18 months b4 having to reduce your take home pay.
hernebayeagle
09-09-2003, 09:21 AM
1f97
In response to hughff
I said that head and mullery(god i still hate that man) were better than francis
secondly i said if chelsea were paying 10 times what AA was worth we would get £10,that means he is only worth £1 not £1,000,000.I dont know how you did your maths there.
At the end of the day though its what someone will pay for him is his current value and as no team has put a bid in yet he therefore is currently worth NOTHING!!!
Gooders
09-09-2003, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by Gazza2
Yes, but if u had a water tight contract saying that your Company is going to pay you X amount for the next 18 months (and u knew that no matter what u do they r not going to renew the contract after it expires), there is no way u r going to agree to a wage reduction. U would simply sit out the contract and then negotoiate a lower paid one with another employer. Why go for the lower wages now, when u can wait another 18 months b4 having to reduce your take home pay.
Yep, that's a fair point.
In which case it'll come down to how much he wants to play, whilst he still can.
Gazza2
09-09-2003, 09:53 AM
Gooders, yes it does come down to how much u want to play. If it was the likes of us supporters in his shoes then playing would be the number 1 priority 4 us. However, I doubt that this is the case for a player around the 30 years of age mark.
I have know a number of professional footballers over the years. Almost without exception, they started out playing for the joy of it. However, by time they reached late 20's it had become a chore. Constant training, playing loads of games from a young age (if u were good as a youth u used to play about 5 games a week - school, district, county, local pro club, etc), playing thru pain barrier with knocks, etc had taken joy out of it. In the end it just became a job that they were pleased to get away from when they got home (about 50% of them never even watched club footie on TV).
I suppose u could liken it to eating your favourite meal every day. Eventually, u would get sick of it.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
09-09-2003, 11:06 AM
To put it bluntly.
i dont really care whether its Jordan's, Francis' or Akinbiyi's fault or whoever, I just want him gone!
kestoneagle
09-09-2003, 02:17 PM
one of the independent websites reports today...
"Stoke City were yesterday finalising striker Ade Akinbiyi's free transfer from Palace."
Let's hope it is true this time.
GreatGonzo
09-09-2003, 02:31 PM
Unless another Club hijacks the deal he will sign for stoke shortly! ;)
Scroatey
09-09-2003, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by kestoneagle
one of the independent websites reports today...
"Stoke City were yesterday finalising striker Ade Akinbiyi's free transfer from Palace." That was the latest I had heard, but it involved us paying up some part of his contract to allow Stoke to get him for nothing! :bash:
Barney Gumble
09-09-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Scroatey
That was the latest I had heard, but it involved us paying up some part of his contract to allow Stoke to get him for nothing! :bash:
Not quite, there is a clause in his contract that has just been discovered that has cocked things up. It means Leicester are entitled to a large fee if he moves within his initial contract term.
:p nice one Simon
GreatGonzo
09-09-2003, 02:56 PM
What, Leicester didn't mention this when it was first mooted he would be going? Surely we pay a % rather tahn a lump sum. If so 99% of £0 is still £0.
Beanie
09-09-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Scroatey
That was the latest I had heard, but it involved us paying up some part of his contract to allow Stoke to get him for nothing! :bash:
With his level of salary that was almost inevitable - and according to reports was sorted out last week. It will still be less than his full salary until the contract ends. It will also be less if he goes to a new club (starts earning at once) than it would have been if he was simply "released".
Clapham Grand
09-09-2003, 03:11 PM
I just wish it would end
adrenalin john
09-09-2003, 03:34 PM
money grabbing mother why oh why oh why did we repair his knee when we could have cashed in on the insurance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
10-09-2003, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by adrenalin john
money grabbing mother why oh why oh why did we repair his knee when we could have cashed in on the insurance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never thought of that! now im even more annoyed! :bash:
Riccardo
10-09-2003, 01:19 PM
Stoke pin hopes on Akinbiyi
Tony Pulis believes Stoke's fans could help the Potters win the race to sign Crystal Palace striker Ade Akinbiyi.
But Pulis, who faces competition from Gillingham and Walsall to sign the striker, admits Akinbiyi's wage demands could prove a stumbling block.
Akinbiyi finished last season on loan at the Britannia Stadium and Pulis said: "It's no secret that we've been chasing Ade, and it's also common knowledge that Gillingham and Walsall are keen."
He added: "If Ade comes here, he knows how good the fans are and the sort of welcome he would get from them. They would love him.
"But one of those clubs has made a better financial offer than us, and if he wants something outside our wage structure then we will have to look elsewhere."
Akinbiyi is understood to have agreed a settlement with Palace and is on the lookout for a new club.
The Nigerian striker has held talks with all three interested parties and Stoke remain hopeful the player will sign for them.
"It's now up to Ade to decide on his destination, he knows the club he knows me, and we can only offer what we have done," Potters boss Tony Pulis told BBC Stoke.
Akinbiyi has had a colourful career, costing over £12m, in transfer fees and his previous clubs include Bristol City, Wolves and Leicester.
BBC SPORT. 5th Sept 03.
215e
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
10-09-2003, 01:43 PM
So, this agreement then. Does that mean he's no longer with Palace and now an out-of-contract player? So we're not paying him anything? Does this mean we wont get anything from another club signing him up?
Clapham Grand
10-09-2003, 03:08 PM
We won't get a fee for him I would think
sydnsteve
11-09-2003, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by pedro
Yes I did watch him and yes he was poor but the guy was on a hiding to nothing from the moment he joined us. He had an absolute nightmare at Leicester and the media took such sick enjoyment in continually showing his misses he almost had his own slot on The Premiership. I agree that it is better for him to move on to another club for yet another fresh start, I just think the abuse he has been getting on these boards is a little OTT. Everytime he pulls on a football shirt he TRIES to earn his wages not like a few others I can mention, (one player in particular who has the bare faced cheek to ask the club he took the pi$$ out of to drop their fee demands so he can play in the Premiership!) Save your abuse for people who deserve it, he could do something like Bogarde at Chelsea and just sit in our reserves and take a nice big cheque home each month but he isn't, all he wants to do is to try and succeed in a sport that is continually knocking him. A lesser man would have just given up but his attitude, if not his ability, is first class and that is why I have respect for him and wish him all the best away from Selhurst Park.
Perhaps you'll have a bit less of respect for him after the report today that he is going nowhere unless Palace pay his contract up.
Rather like Bogarde by the sound of it!
Gazza2
11-09-2003, 09:06 AM
As I keep saying, in his shoes we would be doing exactly the same. Why criticise him. Would you voluntarily walk away from your current employer who is contracted to pay u high wages 4 next 18 months in order to join another employer who is only offering u less than half of your current wages? I do not think so.
Bertrand
11-09-2003, 09:09 AM
I said the day we signed him the biggest misuse of money this club has ever spent and here we are a couple of years later and we have ended up paying £500,000 a goal !
This is not an attack on AA because i wish him all the best but what a stupid buy he was for us.
If there is a clause in his contract that was not known about then it almost beggers beleif how SJ was a succesful businessman in the first place the mistakes he has made since taking control of the club just keep on mounting up.
Gazza 2 is absolutley right palace gave him the contract in the first place almost certainly the last lucrative football one he will ever get who in their right mind would just walk away?
sydnsteve
11-09-2003, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Gazza2
As I keep saying, in his shoes we would be doing exactly the same. Why criticise him. Would you voluntarily walk away from your current employer who is contracted to pay u high wages 4 next 18 months in order to join another employer who is only offering u less than half of your current wages? I do not think so.
If it meant that I would be playing rather than doing nothing and I thought I was a good footballer, yes I would. Or rather, I would negotiate a part pay off from my current employer and then halve my wages, especially if that meant that I was still getting £5k a week (not a terrible little wage packet, really).
If i thought I was actually not any good any more I would sit out my lucrative contract.
What AA does is entirely up to him, I am not criticising. I am simply saying there seems no case for saying what a good bloke he is beacuse he tries very hard on the football pitch. So do i, but no-one gives me 10k a week for it. Also, pedro was saying how many people would take a pay cut like AA was seemingly doing, which made him OK. According to reports he'll only take a pay cut if the Palace package puts him on the same as he is getting now over the time period of his contract, so it is zero sacrifice on his part. I am not blaming him. I think he is a total waste of money, and his purchase has almost ruined the club, but that is in no way his fault. I just can't see why anyone would have anything particularly good to say about him. Especially considering the abuse JG gets, who scored 9 goals from wing back, but is apparently a total t@sser.
The difference between JG & AA is Gray walked out on us and we wish he had`nt and AA wont go and we all wish he would.
wedgetail
11-09-2003, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by Tim
The difference between JG & AA is Gray walked out on us and we wish he had`nt and AA wont go and we all wish he would.
did I read that correctly? you wanted Gray to stay?
oz_da II
11-09-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by Tim
Gray walked out on us and we wish he had`nt
eh? :confused:
Are you sure about that?
Beanie
11-09-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by wedgetail
did I read that correctly? you wanted Gray to stay?
Well, there was bound to be one or two.
I rate Gray as a player had he behaved differently and put in a bit more effort he could have been a geat player although I would not want him back at the club now but not because of his footballing ability.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
11-09-2003, 10:48 AM
Gray had potential, just didnt apply himself every game. If he performed everygame the way he can perform, I wouldve wanted him to stay!
Barney Gumble
11-09-2003, 02:54 PM
Akinbiyi is at Stoke today and I am told is on the verge of putting his name to a contract (subject to any last minite raids from elsewhere). They have offered him the most money.
Palace have paid him up.
fieldy
11-09-2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Barney Gumble
Akinbiyi is at Stoke today and I am told is on the verge of putting his name to a contract (subject to any last minite raids from elsewhere). They have offered him the most money.
Palace have paid him up. Not in full surely?:eek: If that is the case we'd have been better letting him do a Bogarde and rot with no career to come back to in 2 years time, plus we could have spread the cost of his contract over that period, can someone please clarify?
1f5d
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
11-09-2003, 04:32 PM
So, what have we paid him off with then? Have we like paid him compensation for the rest of his contract? If so, how much?
adrenalin john
11-09-2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by CPFC Cheerleader Observer
So, what have we paid him off with then? Have we like paid him compensation for the rest of his contract? If so, how much?
surely we are not paying him off, Pedro said he was an honourable man
Gark Moldberg
11-09-2003, 05:03 PM
The club will have paid a percentage of the money that he is entitled to over the rest of his contract to terminate it. I can't imagine that anyone will reveal how much it was. Could you see SJ turning round and telling us he was please to anounce that he had just paid Ade £???,000 to clear off?
Chickereagle
11-09-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by adrenalin john
Pedro said he was an honourable man
So was Brutus according to Mark Antony. And look what he did. ;)
kestoneagle
12-09-2003, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by Chickereagle
So was Brutus according to Mark Antony. And look what he did. ;)
Yeh...he was really nasty to Popeye.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
12-09-2003, 10:04 AM
So, is he no longer connected to Palace then? If we've paid off his contract that means he's a free agent so we're not paying him anything anymore?
Does this also mean that whatever club he goes to, we wont get any money for him?!
Gooders
12-09-2003, 10:07 AM
There is absolutely no question of us receiving a fee. None at all.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
12-09-2003, 10:19 AM
GREAT!
Chickereagle
12-09-2003, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by kestoneagle
Yeh...he was really nasty to Popeye.
Not in the version of "The French Connection" that I saw, he wasn't. ;)
Beanie
12-09-2003, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Gooders
There is absolutely no question of us receiving a fee. None at all.
I find it rather surprising that there was ever any question of a fee in peoples minds, right from the moment SK announced he wanted to offload. No club likely to sign AA was ever going to come up with a salary he'd accept AND a fee to Palace. I'd guess he'll get a salary more or less in the clubs range sweetened by a pay off from Palace and a big signing on fee (there where the fee goes) from the new club.
Still, the main thing to to get his salary off the books and, hopefully, at least part available to give somebody else.
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
12-09-2003, 11:04 AM
Indeed. He salary is what we need to get rid of. Im wish him all the best though! ;)
cdm61
12-09-2003, 11:50 AM
If I were his employer I'd be out to negotiate a % of what's left of his salary not the full amount. He has a choice rot or play football. If I was his trade union rep I'd be going for what's left and and a lump sum.
On the face of it the cards are with SJ, he also needs to save some money to have for future/replacement wages.
Whoever takes him should pay the signing on fee (which incidently is payable at the end of a contract)
No wonder agents make lots of money........:rolleyes:
Crunchie
12-09-2003, 12:18 PM
If a pay off deal has been negotiated then surely it would be nowhere near the full amount.
Lets say he earns 1/2 of what he earns now at his new club and gets a small signing on fee. We should then pay off the remaining losses he otherwise would have earned. Seems fair to me.
He must be as desperate to play football, as we are to get rid of him
RDSdaEAGLE
12-09-2003, 01:28 PM
From the official Palace site...
Ade Akinbiyi has joined Stoke on loan and goes straight into their squad for Saturday's match at Coventry.
The 28-year-old striker joined Palace from Leicester for £2.2million in February 2002 but injuries have made it difficult for him to show the Selhurst Park crowd his true capabilities.
Akinbiyi was on loan at Stoke at the end of last season, scoring two goals in four appearances to help The Potters steer clear of relegation.
http://www.cpfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10323~423835,00.html
AKINBIYI JOINS STOKE Ade Akinbiyi has joined Stoke on loan and goes straight into their squad for Saturday's match at Coventry.
The 28-year-old striker joined Palace from Leicester for £2.2million in February 2002 but injuries have made it difficult for him to show the Selhurst Park crowd his true capabilities.
Akinbiyi was on loan at Stoke at the end of last season, scoring two goals in four appearances to help The Potters steer clear of relegation.
RDSdaEAGLE
12-09-2003, 01:32 PM
Hope this paves the way for us to sign this much needed left sided midfielder!
wedgetail
12-09-2003, 01:34 PM
This on loan business, is this a way to avoid paying Leicester?
Beanie
12-09-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by wedgetail
This on loan business, is this a way to avoid paying Leicester?
What % of nil would Leicester get? More likely it's an easy way to get the move going while the final bits of a permenant deal sorted out. If nothing else it reduces the salary we pay.
Dartford Lad
12-09-2003, 02:11 PM
http://www.cpfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10323~423835,00.html
aec
wedgetail
12-09-2003, 02:12 PM
yes but is is 0% of nil? what if it was £x + a percentage?
Gooders
12-09-2003, 02:14 PM
Stupid.
What happens when he gets injured?
Maidstoned Eagle
12-09-2003, 02:20 PM
Bet he scores on October 11th.
Del Gland
12-09-2003, 02:25 PM
Great..we can go out and buy that Padavano fella that everyone's raving about!!:p
kestoneagle
12-09-2003, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Chickereagle
Not in the version of "The French Connection" that I saw, he wasn't. ;)
Don't they sell sexy underwear? ;)
CPFC Cheerleader Observer
12-09-2003, 03:02 PM
Lets see how he does this weekend. I bet he scores!
Beanie
12-09-2003, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by wedgetail
yes but is is 0% of nil? what if it was £x + a percentage?
Whilst not being privy to the contract, I have to say that I think that a fixed amount as a sell on fee would just about be unique, and that even SJ wouldn't be that crazy. The only way I can see we might have a fixed amount to pay would be if there is a minimum amount we were going to pay Leicester (say £1m) and the installments haven't reached that yet. Even in cases like that I can't see that Leicester could call for all the money in a lump. When we had the disputes with Juventus it was because we hadn't paid in full for players who had left the club.
Beanie
12-09-2003, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Maidstoned Eagle
Bet he scores on October 11th.
If he's still on loan (and if the game happens that day) he may not be able to play.
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