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c_block_lad
07-01-2004, 07:34 PM
Just seen the build up work from the big man Heskey for Liverpool's goal agaisn't Chelsea. World class.
Have that you anti-Heskey lot!
When I saw world class Emile as the title, I assumed you where talking about Emile Zola. My apoligies to you.
AndyStreet
07-01-2004, 09:09 PM
I've seen Sunday league players do 80 yard pinpoint passes every once in a while.
Just a thought.
Daniel_Nash
07-01-2004, 09:11 PM
One swallow does not make a summer.
Innit.
BaldEagle96
07-01-2004, 09:11 PM
Still a complete and useless tosser as a striker which is what he pretends to be!!
Super Mabbutt
07-01-2004, 09:15 PM
Even a cart-horse gets lucky once
AddiscombeEagle
07-01-2004, 09:15 PM
I thought he played really well tonight. I also think he deserves his place in the England squad.
RDSdaEAGLE
07-01-2004, 09:20 PM
Emile = Adebola
Are you saying Adebola is world class?
Originally posted by c_block_lad
Just seen the build up work from the big man Heskey for Liverpool's goal agaisn't Chelsea. World class.
Have that you anti-Heskey lot!
you seem to like big muscular black men
just a thought
pete eagle
07-01-2004, 09:24 PM
I did roughly what he did in a game a couple of years back for my team.
Does that make me world class?
sydney eagle
07-01-2004, 09:26 PM
I don't think I need to add anything,you guys have answered c_blocks hilarious post for me
cheers
pete eagle
07-01-2004, 09:29 PM
I'm booking my ticket on the England flight to Portugal in the summer as we speak. The one next to Emile.
gjtango
07-01-2004, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by RDSdaEAGLE
Emile = Adebola
Are you saying Adebola is world class?
Heskey is different class to Adebola, lets be realistic.
WorthingEagle
07-01-2004, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by gjtango
Heskey is different class to Adebola, lets be realistic.
yeah, Adebola's got a better first touch.
gjtango
07-01-2004, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by WorthingEagle
yeah, Adebola's got a better first touch.
Your having me on.
Daniel_Nash
07-01-2004, 09:35 PM
Heskey's a pretty good ballet dancer apparently.
No joke either.
RDSdaEAGLE
07-01-2004, 09:37 PM
How are Heskey and Adebola not similar?
Both don't score many goals. Both run aimlessly. Both are tall athletic players. Both have a similar playing style.
Tell me how they are different?
gjtango
07-01-2004, 09:37 PM
Heskey= Big, Strong (see how he shrugged John Terry off the ball tonight), Fast (the sprint for the cross for Liverpools goal tonight) and makes a menace of himself in and around the box. Is quite a difficult player to tackle. He can also shoot properly.
Adebola= Tall, shit ball control, slow runs, crap finisher and easily out paced for passes.
LLCOOLSTEVE
07-01-2004, 09:40 PM
Heskey played up front on his own tonight, set up the goal and Liverpool won, he had a good game, as Martin Tyler said, ask any premiership manager and if Heskey's name isnt on the Liverpool team sheet they breathe a sigh of relief, he is a very good player.
WorthingEagle
07-01-2004, 09:42 PM
Yeah and Kember's a good manager and Dougie's not a lazy prima donna :p
gjtango
07-01-2004, 09:46 PM
I love sarcasm :love: :rolleyes:
nicknewell
07-01-2004, 09:47 PM
i dont rate emile.
RDSdaEAGLE
07-01-2004, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by gjtango
Heskey= Big, Strong (see how he shrugged John Terry off the ball tonight), Fast (the sprint for the cross for Liverpools goal tonight) and makes a menace of himself in and around the box. Is quite a difficult player to tackle. He can also shoot properly.
Adebola= Tall, shit ball control, slow runs, crap finisher and easily out paced for passes.
Erm..Adebola is tall, strong and took the piss out of both Leeds and Liverpool last season. Think it's a slightly blinkered view.
1f5b
LLCOOLSTEVE
07-01-2004, 09:50 PM
Emile will be in the next England squad, thats why Sven is the England manager and you lot, thankfully, are not :)
gjtango
07-01-2004, 09:50 PM
2 games. What happened against supposed shitter Division 1 teams. He was an above average team player and not much more. Heskey's proven at International Level.
Comeon, you carn't honestly believe Heskey is worse than Adebola? I wouldn't say he's world class like the thread suggests but he's a good player, I'd have him in my team.
Daniel_Nash
07-01-2004, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by gjtango
2 games. What happened against supposed shitter Division 1 teams. He was an above average team player and not much more. Heskey's proven at International Level.
Comeon, you carn't honestly believe Heskey is worse than Adebola? I wouldn't say he's world class like the thread suggests but he's a good player, I'd have him in my team.
Wouldn't say proven, he has played at international level but quite a lot of the time he looks like a passenger being dragged up by the better players on the team - which, in Emile's case, seem to be all of them.
He's good at what he does, but doesn't get enough goals for a forward player.
WorthingEagle
07-01-2004, 09:52 PM
It's just embarrassing that Heskey is anywhere near the England squad, when a player like Kanoute has to play for Mali to get international football because he's not good enough for France....
sydney eagle
07-01-2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by gjtango
Heskey's proven at International Level.
a proven what???...he is a striker and his job is to score goals...he doesn't even do that for Liverpool,let alone England.I hate this "he holds the ball up" BS that the pro heskey camp come up with,a striker is put up front to put the ball in the back of the net
gjtango
07-01-2004, 09:54 PM
Yeah but France are different class to England (at present) and I'm sure many will agree. They have so many players upfront to pick from.
RDSdaEAGLE
07-01-2004, 09:55 PM
I'm not saying Heskey is worse than Adebola.
I'm just saying that, even though the statistics actually prove that Adebola and Emile have a similar effect on their respective teams, c_block_lad isn't willing to admit it!
Daniel_Nash
07-01-2004, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by gjtango
Yeah but France are different class to England (at present) and I'm sure many will agree. They have so many players upfront to pick from.
So do we. Excepting a few they all seem to be great domestically, like Cole, Beattie and Phillips, but then falter when they put on an England shirt.
gjtango
07-01-2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
a proven what???...he is a striker and his job is to score goals...he doesn't even do that for Liverpool,let alone England.I hate this "he holds the ball up" BS that the pro heskey camp come up with,a striker is put up front to put the ball in the back of the net
Proved that he can play at international level.
RDSdaEAGLE
07-01-2004, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by gjtango
Proved that he can play at international level.
But he doesnt score goals? And he's a striker? He's meant to score goals isnt he?
gazzad_5
07-01-2004, 09:58 PM
lol, all i can say is after chelsea buy a new team whats it done for them they aint wiinin the lge they might as well be in da same boat as liverpool
as the great shanks used 2 say if ur first ur first if ur 2nd ur nothing
bbig up to emile quality tonight, i given u stick in da past, mind u its only chelsea, cant wait 2 see chelski against a gud team like madrid theyll get ripped
LLCOOLSTEVE
07-01-2004, 09:58 PM
So is Kevin Phillips, score goals that is.
AddiscombeEagle
07-01-2004, 10:12 PM
Lets be honest, we do not have a lot of choice up front now. Owen, Rooney. Who else? Don't say Beattie because he is not up to it.
gjtango
07-01-2004, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by AddiscombeEagle
Lets be honest, we do not have a lot of choice up front now. Owen, Rooney. Who else? Don't say Beattie because he is not up to it.
Andy Johnson anyone :p
sydney eagle
07-01-2004, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by AddiscombeEagle
Lets be honest, we do not have a lot of choice up front now. Owen, Rooney. Who else? Don't say Beattie because he is not up to it. maybe if he got more than one meaningless game here or there he might prove you wrong.Heskey gets given chance after chance and still disappoints
Trilby
07-01-2004, 10:23 PM
Im sorry but Elmo is still consistantly shite despite his good showing tonight.
Daniel_Nash
07-01-2004, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
maybe if he got more than one meaningless game here or there he might prove you wrong.Heskey gets given chance after chance and still disappoints
Sadly though, Paul, those are the chances given and some people take them and become stars (like Rooney has) and some don't and become also-rans (like Beattie and Phillips have become).
Not saying it's right, but imagine if they put in performances like Rooney did in his first games. It'd be a different picture i think.
AddiscombeEagle
07-01-2004, 10:31 PM
I know what you are saying but I agree with Mr Nash. International player take to it like Duck to water, not many get that much better after a poor start. I don't think Heskey is a world beater but he is worthy of a place in the squad.
1f4b
RichieG
07-01-2004, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Emile will be in the next England squad, thats why Sven is the England manager and you lot, thankfully, are not :)
It's similar to the Shipperley argument on another thread. Big men just aren't appreciated by to$$ers who think strikers are only there to score goals.
Have you ever noticed how those with a bit more football knowledge and a bit less verbal diahorrea never get involved in slagging off the big man just because he doesn't score a goal every other game?
AddiscombeEagle
07-01-2004, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by RichieG
It's similar to the Shipperley argument on another thread. Big men just aren't appreciated by young to$$ers who think striker are only there to score goals.
Have you ever noticed how those with a bit more football knowledge and a bit less verbal diahorrea never get involve in slagging off the big man just because he doesn't score a goal every other game?
Also ask someone like Michael Own what he thinks of Emile Heskey.
Diggers digs in?
07-01-2004, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by RichieG
It's similar to the Shipperley argument on another thread. Big men just aren't appreciated by young to$$ers who think striker are only there to score goals.
Have you ever noticed how those with a bit more football knowledge and a bit less verbal diahorrea never get involve in slagging off the big man just because he doesn't score a goal every other game?
LOL, perhaps those "yung-ens" amongst us are just used to a style of football which doesn't rely on hoofing it up to the big man every other kick! Honestly, why have Liverpool been under-performing this season? Because there's nobody suitable to partner Michael Owen, meaning there's nobody good enough. If you don't believe me, ask Gerard Houllier - he tried to loan Heskey out to Lyon for the whole of this season, but they refused because they thought he was shit! And of course Michael Owen is REALLY going to say that Heskey is a poor player. :clown:
For the type of football that England and Liverpool need to play, Heskey is nothing more than an also ran, a last resort in case things go wrong. So he scored against Yeovil, hooray for him. He is a POOR football player with no first touch, no skill, and he seems to fall over an awful lot for someone who apparently brings "strength" to the team.
RichieG
07-01-2004, 10:55 PM
So poor Diggers that the England manager is yet to name a squad without him in it.
I take it Mark Palios is in receipt of your application for the post?
BTW....In deference to your indignation I removed the "young" above, it was perhaps over patronising, for which I apologise.
Diggers digs in?
07-01-2004, 10:57 PM
Haha. If there WAS a squad without him in it, we'd do better without a doubt. Take note that Owen and Rooney are the first choice strikers now, neither of whom possess immense height.
sydney eagle
07-01-2004, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by Daniel_Nash
Sadly though, Paul, those are the chances given and some people take them and become stars (like Rooney has) and some don't and become also-rans (like Beattie and Phillips have become).
Not saying it's right, but imagine if they put in performances like Rooney did in his first games. It'd be a different picture i think. while I agree with what you are saying dan can anyone tell me how Heskey has kept getting chance after chance then? he didn't "grab his chance" yet he's always there or there abouts...I mean jesus,he doesn't even get into his club side half the time
and funny ritchie G has a go at the "younger posters" for slagging off people and using "verbal diahorrea yet calls people who disagree with him "tossers"
hypocrite
and just for the record I am NOT against a big forward,but I expect ANY England striker to score more than 4 goals in 32 games or so...,thats just pathetic.
sydney eagle
07-01-2004, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Diggers digs in?
Haha. If there WAS a squad without him in it, we'd do better without a doubt. Take note that Owen and Rooney are the first choice strikers now, neither of whom possess immense height. Spot on
Daniel_Nash
07-01-2004, 11:09 PM
I would imagine Sven sees Heskey as "something different" to using two fast and mobile strikers, and it can change the style of play if defenders are munching ankles. A long ball up and all that. I
I used to say that he would take the hits that a smaller player (like Owen for example) couldn't handle but having seen Owen and Rooney play together i don't think there's any need for it.
He seems like a nice bloke though, quiet and not arrogant. He tries hard, but seems to lack confidence all the time. I remember at Leicester he would bang in a fair few goals a season, but that's dried up at Liverpool.
Shall we blame Liverpool? I really want to :)
Diggers digs in?
07-01-2004, 11:12 PM
At Leicester, the most league goals he scored in a season was 12. At least that's what I think if I remember my CM histories correctly. Agreed he offers something "different", but crap players must surely be a last resort.
Aki Aki Aki
08-01-2004, 07:48 AM
But surely the most important fact from last night is that Chelski lost. Well done Emile for setting up the goal, commiserations to Ranieri (the only decent human being at the club) and bad luck England (because Sven will probably be on his way)
RichieG
08-01-2004, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by sydney eagle
and funny ritchie G has a go at the "younger posters" for slagging off people and using "verbal diahorrea yet calls people who disagree with him "tossers"
hypocrite
Fair, but I just get so frustarted that so many people seem to think they know more about football than Houllier and Sven. What can't anyone accept that these sorts of players (like Shipps for us at the mo, and Adebola last season) add something for the team or quite frankly they wouldn't be playing.
That sometimes leads me to be rude, and I apologise.
big tel
08-01-2004, 12:36 PM
1e38
We all know hesky is a pile of crap, he's just lucky that there is a significant lack of partners for owen or he would have become a jamacian internatinla with Frank Sinclair who is incidently better than Hesky, Hes scored more (own) goals as well
big tel
08-01-2004, 12:37 PM
wrong thread my bad
big tel
08-01-2004, 12:37 PM
no right thread. Emile's messing with my brain
Scroatey
08-01-2004, 12:48 PM
This topic rears its ugly head again, normally about twice a season :D
When teams are highly successful I think you'll find they have two prolifically scoring front men of whatever stature - Morrison/Forsell, Wright/Bright.
Right now, Liverpool do not, Palace do not, neither team are flying by their own standards.
First safety
08-01-2004, 01:16 PM
Personally I have not seen Heskey play that often except for the odd international because I find watching Liverpool play sends me to sleep .
Heskey showed enormous potential at Leicester but It has not been fully realised. He had so much going for him Size, Pace and passable skills but in my view he has always been inconsistent.
He was on the bench at Yeovil on Sunday so you have to ask yourself why?,Particularly when Owen was missing.The fact that Heskey will almost certainly make the England Squad is merely a reflection on the lack of Quality strikers available to Sven.
Originally posted by First safety
Personally I have not seen Heskey play that often except for the odd international because I find watching Liverpool play sends me to sleep .
Heskey showed enormous potential at Leicester but It has not been fully realised. He had so much going for him Size, Pace and passable skills but in my view he has always been inconsistent.
He was on the bench at Yeovil on Sunday so you have to ask yourself why?,Particularly when Owen was missing.The fact that Heskey will almost certainly make the England Squad is merely a reflection on the lack of Quality strikers available to Sven.
Exactly
c_block_lad
08-01-2004, 05:18 PM
How can you compare Heskey to Adebola?
Heskey plays in the Premier League, one of the best league's in the world and plays for England.
Adebola is on the verge of being released from a bottom half lower league club.
pete eagle
08-01-2004, 08:34 PM
Heskey shouldn't be in the international side, end of. In international games you need goals. Yes Owen is there and that is his primary role but you need someone alongside him who is a regular goalscorer as well and can relieve some of the pressure on him. Heskey doesn't bring that.
BrolinISgod
11-01-2004, 06:10 PM
Did anyone see the premiership review on friday on sky sports one with Steve Claridge and the sky sports bloke.
They showed clips of Heskey up front with claridge at leichester and he looked quality, full of confidence, running at defenders and cheeky flicks the lot.
Why has he not even shown anything like that at Liverpool?
He is utter wank now.
Diggers digs in?
11-01-2004, 06:16 PM
Marting O'Neill is a master motivator who can make crap players look 2 leagues better than they are. Heskey is such a player, Houllier is not such a manager. Heskey has no confidence and plays in a system that doesn't suit his very limited needs - hence why he looks perpetually crap in a liverpool shirt, and in an england shirt. Just the way it goes, m'afraid...
sydney eagle
12-01-2004, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by RichieG
Fair, but I just get so frustarted that so many people seem to think they know more about football than Houllier and Sven. What can't anyone accept that these sorts of players (like Shipps for us at the mo, and Adebola last season) add something for the team or quite frankly they wouldn't be playing.
That sometimes leads me to be rude, and I apologise. It's no prob mate...I remember being in a shitty mood when I posted that
duffmanohyeah
22-02-2004, 02:53 PM
heskey is awful, about as good as david james, and is a less natural finisher even than owen, and since he doesnt get in as many goalscoring positions scores less goals. as for him playing for england, that is a total joke. yes he has proven himself to be able to play at international level. proven himself to be able to play crap. i could do that. i dont think anyone should play up front for england if they are not in goal scoring form for their club. that includes owen.(btw nice penalty v pompey, he really doesnt know how to use anything other than the side of his foot does he). When beattie doesnt score for 5 or 6 games he gets benched for southampton. owen went for what 7 or 8 games recently, and is unquestionably started every time for england. beattie should have been given a chance last season. stupid swedish •••••••...
samtheeagle
22-02-2004, 03:10 PM
interesting first post
JohnA
22-02-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by samtheeagle
interesting first post
Quite.
Intersting webpage too:
http://www.back-of-the.net/
Nothing to do with AG Partridge.
Gerry from Sussex
22-02-2004, 06:53 PM
according to his mate steve claridge, what holds him back is his lack of anticipation
duffmanohyeah
22-02-2004, 08:09 PM
i agree, he doesnt get anything like as many chances as owen who seems to always be in the right place. they both miss a load of chances though as well
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