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zonin2000
27-04-2004, 02:59 PM
http://www.football365.com/news/story_108110.shtml

Blatter wants end to draws
Tuesday April 27 2004


FIFA President Sepp Blatter's latest brainwave is to eradicate draws from the game of football.

Blatter believes that every game should have a winner and that they should 'have the courage' to introduce a decisive way to end every match.

Penalty shoot-outs is one suggestion but the president of football's ruling body also says he is open to other suggestions.

The FIFA boss has become famous for a seemingly endless stream of ridiculous suggestions to improve football - the latest of which was that female footballers should wear hotpants to attract more spectators.

Bit this one may well top the lot...

"Every game should have a winner," Blatter told German sports news agency SID.

"When you play cards or any other game, there's always a winner and a loser. We should have the courage to introduce a final decision in every game of football."

zonin2000
27-04-2004, 03:02 PM
He's funnier than Alan Partridge, that Joseph Blatter :)

Dodger
27-04-2004, 03:02 PM
How much does this man get paid?

HarryTheMan
27-04-2004, 03:03 PM
bollox

Smurph
27-04-2004, 03:05 PM
I've always wondered if his wife is called Fanny?

Psychokiller
27-04-2004, 03:35 PM
Why doesn't this c*nt and others like him piss off and have a heart attack somewhere? These ••••••s are forever tampering with the game for no apparrent reason!

BaldEagle96
27-04-2004, 03:56 PM
A draw is just fine thanks - unless of course it is one needed by both Wigan and West Ham next week and the feckers just kick the ball about for 90 minutes!!

Conger
27-04-2004, 04:50 PM
This kind of rubbish makes my blood boil. :veryangry

This is obviously influenced by the dumbing down required to make the game more 'exciting' for America or the commercialisation that would follow.

Bloody hell, the game is simple enough as it is, and its actually quite gratifying when two evenly matched sides grind out a hard-fought draw. Its rubbish that things need continual improvement to stay relevant - its the best and most popular game in the world, played by pretty much everyone outside the USA - if it ain't broke, it doesn't need fixing!!!

Men At Work
27-04-2004, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by zonin2000
"When you play cards or any other game, there's always a winner and a loser.

Like cricket?

gjtango
27-04-2004, 09:42 PM
••••••• shit idea. Win Lose Draw is a simple, effective system, likeable to millions involved within football. No reason to change it.

Beanie
27-04-2004, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by Men At Work
Like cricket?

or hockey..... or rugby league .....or rugby union.... or even the odd game of American football ...or dead heats in all kinds of races

yeh he's right - all games have a winner every game, without fail :rolleyes:

The worst game of football I ever suffered was when Red Star Belgrade win the old European Cup by playing for 120 minutes to get a 0-0 and then win on penalties, it was awful. The man is an absolute idiot.:veryangry :veryangry

Brett
27-04-2004, 09:47 PM
Kill him. Please.

philaire
27-04-2004, 10:13 PM
He's up to his tricks again. Is there no end to his madness?

BERLIN, April 27 (Reuters) - FIFA president Sepp Blatter has proposed scrapping draws in soccer, saying every game should have a winner.

In an idea that would revolutionise the world's most popular sport if adopted, Blatter suggested that matches should be decided by a penalty shoot-out in the case of a draw.

'Every game should have a winner,' Blatter told German sports news agency SID. 'When you play cards or any other game, there's always a winner and a loser. We should have the courage to introduce a final decision in every game of football.'

Blatter said the best solution would be penalties but added that he would study any other proposal.

'Penalties remain the best way to decide a game in the case of a draw but if anybody has a better idea, I am ready to listen to it,' he said.

'A game is about emotions. There is passion. It can be dramatic. At the end of it it's almost always a tragedy.

'We can't be satisfied with draws. (Modern Olympic Games founder) Pierre de Coubertin has said that the important thing was to take part, not to win. 'That's not true. In life you have a goal and in sport, too, you have a goal which you want to achieve.' "... the best solution would be penalties but ... he would study any other proposal" - any other proposal? Tossing coins? Alphabetical order? Sepp, if it ain't broke ...

Panman268
27-04-2004, 10:19 PM
Don't think the pools companies would be too happy.

gjtango
27-04-2004, 10:23 PM
http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50413

saul1664
27-04-2004, 10:31 PM
penalties before the game?

or maybe who gets closest to the corner flag from the centre circle like in the half time challenge (which is virtually impossible IMHO, but remember one season where they gave about 4 cars away so must have pissed them off a bit)...

darren_j
27-04-2004, 11:32 PM
lets just scrap the match bit and just decide on the toss of a coin who is the winner...

Diggers digs in?
27-04-2004, 11:35 PM
I just don't get this guy. Is his sole intention to completely destroy the game we have all grown up with?

philaire
28-04-2004, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by gjtango
http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50413 "BBSer supports call for more meaningful thread titles"

chelmsfordeagle
28-04-2004, 04:27 AM
the man is an idiot. has he ever been to a game supporting a team that 1 -0 and equalises in injury time.

I think this is all part of him making the game more popular in america.

scott aungier
28-04-2004, 04:51 AM
have winners & loosers like the football public with blatter running the show.the winners will be when this clown has gone.hope thats sooner than later

BLAGATICKET
28-04-2004, 06:14 AM
Looks like FIFA are going out to try to popularise the game in the good ol' U.S of A again! :veryangry

Just give up on 'em

philaire
28-04-2004, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by BLAGATICKET
Looks like FIFA are going out to try to popularise the game in the good ol' U.S of A again! Recalls the days of the late 70s when they were pushing to widen the goals.:rolleyes:

pete eagle
28-04-2004, 11:34 AM
I think all the leagues would sooner withdraw from FIFA rather than accept this proposal.

There is nothing more exciting than snatching a draw from certain defeat or nothing more gutting than leading all the game only to be pegged back in the final minute.
Blatter is a businessman, he's in it for the money, nothing to do with the passion of the game. Draws have been integral since the formation of the game, they can be the difference between relegation and staying up or promotion and the play-offs. This has everything to do with making money and nothing to do with making football more entertaining for the fans. We'll have teams going to places looking for draws to take it to penalties all the time. Arsenal will be facing Hadrian's wall everytime they play, how will that be more exciting. It's ridiculous and the sooner Blatter leaves FIFA, the safer the game will be

magician
28-04-2004, 11:37 AM
not a bad idea that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
feck off blatter you arse !

anti-addick
28-04-2004, 11:44 AM
I like the hotpants idea............

PeterH
28-04-2004, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Why doesn't this c*nt and others like him piss off and have a heart attack somewhere? These ••••••s are forever tampering with the game for no apparrent reason!

Agreed PK.

Strathclyde Eagle
28-04-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Beanie
The worst game of football I ever suffered was when Red Star Belgrade win the old European Cup by playing for 120 minutes to get a 0-0 and then win on penalties, it was awful. The man is an absolute idiot.:veryangry :veryangry
I'd forgotten about that awful Marseilles-Belgrade final until you reminded me of it. :veryangry ;)

And yes, Blatter is an idiot.

Walrus
28-04-2004, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by pete eagle
I think all the leagues would sooner withdraw from FIFA rather than accept this proposal.

There is nothing more exciting than snatching a draw from certain defeat or nothing more gutting than leading all the game only to be pegged back in the final minute.
Blatter is a businessman, he's in it for the money, nothing to do with the passion of the game. Draws have been integral since the formation of the game, they can be the difference between relegation and staying up or promotion and the play-offs. This has everything to do with making money and nothing to do with making football more entertaining for the fans. We'll have teams going to places looking for draws to take it to penalties all the time. Arsenal will be facing Hadrian's wall everytime they play, how will that be more exciting. It's ridiculous and the sooner Blatter leaves FIFA, the safer the game will be

I was thinking much the same when I heard about this rubbish. Teams like Leicester and West Brom would just need to practice penalties all week and then they'd be champions.

What next? Quarters with time outs? Hmm, actually I'm sure Sky would love that.....

cuisse-de-frogs
28-04-2004, 11:52 AM
As anyone seen the Lingerie Bowl they put on for the half time show of the american football super bowl this year?

Maybe this is an idea that would put Women's Football on the TV guide...

we_8_brighton
28-04-2004, 12:17 PM
What a cock.

Clapham Grand
28-04-2004, 12:55 PM
laughable

nicky
28-04-2004, 12:58 PM
Why is this swiss shit still alive?

nicky
28-04-2004, 01:05 PM
Kill him

screamingalice
28-04-2004, 01:08 PM
The cynics could say that this is for T.V. Perhaps Blatter feels they can extract more money from TV if there was a 1 in 3 chance a game finishing with a dramatic penalty shoot out. Picture Selhurst on a freezing January Saturday afternoon after a mind numbing 0-0 bore draw! I am sure we will all want to hang about for another 1/2 hour or so while they take penalties....

Leeds Eagle
28-04-2004, 01:10 PM
would certainly change tactics too - would have to leave your penalty takers on in case you conceded

JamieBcpfc
28-04-2004, 06:09 PM
Feck of ****

Shipp Ahoy!
28-04-2004, 06:24 PM
Well he is German...

Ian of Chatham
28-04-2004, 06:45 PM
Crazy idea, The only draw Mr Blatter should scrap is the wage he draws from FIFA.

He should be hung, DRAWN and quartered for coming out with this barmy statement

Phil O'Sophical
28-04-2004, 06:47 PM
Can I make a point I've made before about this barmy idiot and his associates?

They are in charge of our beautiful game and yet they do not seem to be accountable to anyone, particularly the fans, clubs, players, managers etc. They sit there passing into old age presumably drawing huge salaries, travelling the world and coming up with barmy ideas and even barmier competitions such as the Confederation Cup.

For such a wealthy, cut-throat, professional game how the hell do idiots like Blatter ever get into power and even worse stay there. Is being a FIFA official some sort of kind pay-off for those with senile dementia?????

PalaceFan in Alabama
28-04-2004, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by BLAGATICKET
Looks like FIFA are going out to try to popularise the game in the good ol' U.S of A again! :veryangry Just give up on 'em

In my last year as President of the Alabama Soccer Officials, I attended a meeting and he was one of many speakers. This bloody stupid idea has been doing the rounds overhere for the last 15 years or so, Americans only want winners, fecking deadbeats need to leave the game alone.
I have one even more stupid than this, they are currently trying out a four man system and each offical will have a whistle and they will have full control of their side of the field from byline to the halfway line. Now who controls the game when a foul is commited directly on centre spot???
The thing I dislike about most American sports is that they have far too many officials and even then they cannot get right :bash: Lets have a five minute discussion on what we all think we saw, what about a TV time out to see if we got it right. Nobody is perfect and trying to get it right they have created a monster and now they want to do the same to our game. Fecking stupid #@$$%%$## :veryangry :veryangry :bash:

Gooders
28-04-2004, 07:05 PM
They took steps years ago to encourage attacking play - they introduced 3 points for a win.

Don't need to scrap draws too - totally unneccessary.

I struggle to see how a man who clearly has no idea what the game is all about can make it into such an exalted position. :confused:

Ruskin Old Boy
28-04-2004, 07:54 PM
Blatter + USA = Shit

Brett
28-04-2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Shipp Ahoy!
Well he is German...

Err... Swiss, but near enough.

Twyford Bee
28-04-2004, 08:29 PM
I'm sure this will never happen worldwide.

The US finally allow drawn games in their league, crap like this is hardly going to encourage them not to tinker the game to suit their own tastes.

wedgetail
28-04-2004, 08:47 PM
Blatter is a ••••wit.

drunkymunky
28-04-2004, 09:00 PM
What a muppet

Teddy
28-04-2004, 09:06 PM
Yes every sport has a winner, except all those in which there is the possibility that teams have the same number of points at the end of a game! What a knob

Steve in Phoenix
28-04-2004, 09:57 PM
Actually I think its an interesting idea.

Works very well in the NHL. 1pt each for the draw plus 1pt for the extra time winner.

Probably not very practical but I still like the idea. The journalist does have a point when he says draws (and cricket) are peculiarly British.

pete eagle
28-04-2004, 10:04 PM
Ahh but Blatter's idea is for the winner of a penalty shoot out after the game to be awarded all 3 points. It's ridiculous.

philaire
28-04-2004, 10:22 PM
Interestingly, the NSL tried it here (ie. no draws) for one season (1994-95). I think they got the idea from the J-league at the time. It was a fairly pathetic attempt here to presumably attempt to win over rugby or Aussie Rules fans. There was a complicated points system which meant you got more for a win in normal time than after penalties. Curiously, it stifled excitement as it led to more defensive tactics by teams who liked the idea of holding out for penalties. The league learned its lesson (proceeding to the next stuff-up, in a long line of stuff-ups) and marked this one "never to be tried again".

Steve in Phoenix
28-04-2004, 10:24 PM
He didnt say that was the only way though? Nor that they would get all 3 points.

BTW I read the Standard's article on the same topic.. just realised thats not the one linked. Its a bit more interesting.. for instance draws are also an alien concept to the Far East - apparently their bookies put a team ahead by half a goal if they are drawing at half time so they have a winner :confused:

Brett
29-04-2004, 01:21 AM
We'll change the laws to suit the Asian bookies?

I like it as it thanks.

Blatter is an megalomaniac who does a nice sideline in backhanders and mental health problems.

If he is returned for a third term as FIFA president I can see the major national associations devolving from FIFA and the World Cup out of protest.

He is pro-actively destroying the sport and is running FIFA in much the same democratic way as Tony Blair runs UKplc.

philaire
29-04-2004, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Steve in Phoenix
He didnt say that was the only way though? Nor that they would get all 3 points. Begs questions about what alternatives there are to penalties.

- Number of corners. Boring and who keeps count? You'd get teams forsaking going for goals by going for corners - if that makes sense
- The variation they used on penalties for a few years in the US, which was the time-limited one on one with the striker starting from the halfway line.
- other?

I reckon there'd be adverse consequences from a practical perspective, if it had a competition decider (eg. penalties) as opposed to a statistical aspect (eg. number of corners won). You'd be adding 10-15 minutes to every fixture. How would that work say in junior ranks where fixtures on a Saturday and run end-to-end?

Men At Work
29-04-2004, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by philaire
- The variation they used on penalties for a few years in the US, which was the time-limited one on one with the striker starting from the halfway line.

I'd be keen on a variation on this which has a keeper and four defenders against ten outfield players. Thirty seconds starting from the halfway line. Use that to replace penalties as it gives a truer representation of the teams.

It's still a bloody stupid idea to scrap draws, though.

OldPeanutSeller
29-04-2004, 05:33 AM
.... and of today's 49 games, 28 were home wins, 21 were away wins and there were no draws. Dividend forecasts are low. And anyone who did the pools must be a c***.

Conger
29-04-2004, 07:31 AM
All rule changes must be approved by the IFA, which FIFA has a vote on, but there are also representattives from the four home countries on the panel, and so this idea is likely to be vetoed anyway thank goodness.

The backpass rule, red/yellow cards etc had to get past them, so I'm putting faith in us as inventors of the game to protect it.

anti-addick
29-04-2004, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by cuisse-de-frogs
As anyone seen the Lingerie Bowl they put on for the half time show of the american football super bowl this year?

Maybe this is an idea that would put Women's Football on the TV guide...

Make them strip :o :p

anti-addick
29-04-2004, 01:39 PM
The 'shootout' as the US call it is a great idea for cup ties that need deciding but for the league? crazy.

Daniel_Nash
30-04-2004, 09:43 AM
Is he going to retire any time soon???

I said it on another thread about him, but it's like a General shifting his toy soldiers across a big map of Europe to signify when he's ••••ed up the country, league or competition. Grrr.

If it's not broken, don't fix it. Blatter, leave football alone!

Men At Work
30-04-2004, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Daniel_Nash
Is he going to retire any time soon???

I said it on another thread about him, but it's like a General shifting his toy soldiers across a big map of Europe to signify when he's ••••ed up the country, league or competition. Grrr.

I thought he just got re-elected with the help of the Oceania rep after they were promised a place in the World Cup finals. Oh, he's just another politician after all... I guess he just wants to make his mark on the game. There's a reason why Palace people remember Goldberg more than Bloye...