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GreatGonzo
02-12-1999, 08:41 AM
Ok so those of you who browse the Web for hours hwne you are bored reading everything you can about Palace like me will know i nicked this idea from The Holmsdale Online. (great website, its in the links section, well worth a visit)
Anyway we have the thread He should never have pulled on the red and blue. This was individual players but what is the worts imaginable Palace side?
Beer for the winner!
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James Varcoe
02-12-1999, 12:52 PM
Parkin
Stebbing Andersson Hedman Brush
Higgenbottom Mortimer
Pitcher Ketteridge
Langley Watts
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A very Merry Christmas to one and all
GreatGonzo
03-12-1999, 12:42 AM
Nothing wrong with Pitcher - anyone that stamps on Lee Boywers head TWICE in 1 game and gets away with it deserves hero status!
and Mortimers missus was a bit of alright
Kids were ugly though
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Mental Fan
03-12-1999, 12:46 AM
When did pitcher stamp on Bowyers head?
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Feeling glad all over
GreatGonzo
03-12-1999, 01:26 AM
Either you are very young have bad memory or don't remember the Play-off semi agains't Charlton
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I have to agree with some of your choices James, but my team would be:
Hardwick
Stebbing Andersson Hedman Lindsay
Higginbottom Price Zohar Ketteridge
Langley McCulloch
Subs:
Wood
Sinnott
Billio
Aylott
Chris Jones (signed from Spurs, scored on his debut within 5 minutes in the 3-4 home vs. Wolves and then did nothing memorable for the rest of his Palace career).
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[This message has been edited by JJ (edited 03 December 1999).]
Chocky
03-12-1999, 05:12 PM
Day/Barron
Stebbing Hedman Hopkins/Andersson Bason
Ketteridge Higginbottom/Galliers Price Mortimer
Neil Martin
Chris Jones
jonesy
03-12-1999, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Chocky on 12-03-1999 01:12 PM
Day/Barron........
Chris Jones
Cheers Mate.
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TRUST THE TRUST
Fester
03-12-1999, 05:19 PM
Can we not find a place at centre half for John Lacy!!
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Sandy of Cornwall
03-12-1999, 05:25 PM
Quite a few of you have said "Andersson" which surprises me. He was always just OK so far as I'm concerned. Not good but certainly doesn't deserve to be in the "worst" section.
Two baddies for me are Gareth Taylor and Marco Gabbiadini.
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jonesy
03-12-1999, 05:40 PM
Sandy,
Gabiadinni was quite a useful player.
However He didn't fit in with the team because
a.He was 5'0" and we were playing a type of Long ball at the time.
b.He was at a disadvantage because he used to run round with a cushion up his arse.
He scored the winner at Anfield though which makes him OK in my book.
Anyone for Ross Jenkins??!!
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TRUST THE TRUST
[This message has been edited by jonesy (edited 03 December 1999).]
Sandy of Cornwall
03-12-1999, 05:50 PM
Jonesy, you sound just like my husband. Trouble is, he liked Lee Sinnott too.
My mum went out with Ross Jenkins' dad in the early 50's (apparently). Yeah, Ross was dreadful.
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Robin
21-07-2000, 12:56 AM
I have seen the thread about the Best Palace team, but if you pick Martyn, Sansom, Wright and Bright, you can perm any other half decent players from the last twenty years and you will have a good team.
What about the worst team ever?
Here’s a start
Suckling, Patterson, Ismael, Andersen, Ansalem, Turner, del Rio, Brolin, Zohar, Taylor, Padavano
I almost picked Miller on the basis of one performance, but he is really a good keeper.
Manager – It has to be Lombardo – Great player but that was a very sad period in CPFC history.
James Varcoe
21-07-2000, 01:20 AM
Robin, this is already under heavy discussion on Memory Lane. I am transferring it there now.
What... No Gabbiadini or Preece !!!
jempie
15-02-2001, 02:13 PM
1. (We've never had a dodgy keeper?!) But Digby
2. Muscat (What happened to him?!)
3. (Can't think of one!)
4. Ruddock (Need I saw more?)
5. Austin
6. Zohar
7. Pitcher
8. Brolin
9. Dyer
10. (Was Dyer the only selfish/rubbish striker?!)
11. Bowry
MANAGER - Venables
CHAIRMAN - Let me think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1f8e
You're obviously fairly young, Jempie. Those of us who go back to the late 70s or even before will remember the likes of Chris Jones, Mick Hill, Andy McCulloch, John Lacy, Les Strong and Ally Brown, many of whom were pushing 40.
Compared to that lot, Bruce Dyer was actually a very good player indeed. Yes, he was erratic, occasionally diabolical, but he scored more goals in one season than Langley, Jones, Brown and McCulloch collectively managed in all their time at Palace.
When I was young the bad players used to drive me mad. It seemed as if Brian Bason played for us for an eternity. But in the record books it says he only made about 25 appearances. It says much for the likes of Bason and David Price that their sheer awfulness still rings alarm bells with many Eagles fans almost two decades after they last played. Yet far more competent players are largely forgotten.
Even those players who aren't up to it are to be cherished. We rarely have a team of absolute brilliance and it's more exciting and more unpredictable for it. I come back to the Man U thing again. What is the point of having a team that doesn't have a weakness? Mistakes, flukes and sheer incompetence are part of football's rich drama, and thankfully at Palace they're never far away. Old Trafford should actually be called the 'Theatre of Predictability', it is Selhurst Park that is 'the Theatre of Dreams (and Nightmares)'.
I loved the Team of the 80s and the Champions of 94 but they didn't make me laugh out loud the way that Chris Jones and Tommy Langley did – they were a comic pairing to match Morecambe and Wise, Reeves and Mortimer or even Flanagan and Allen.
Poor quality players are very much part of the whole fabric of what makes Crystal Palace. Seeing someone as godlike as Attilio Lombardo in a Palace shirt was all the more special because he something out of the ordinary and we knew he was following in the illustrious footsteps of Steve Ketteridge, Tony Mahoney and Lee Sinnott.
TC EAGLE
16-02-2001, 06:29 PM
jempie what about Paul Barron must be the worst keeper to put on the green jersey for Palace
Samo*
16-02-2001, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by jempie:
1. (We've never had a dodgy keeper?!) But Digby
2. Muscat (What happened to him?!)
3. (Can't think of one!)
4. Ruddock (Need I saw more?)
5. Austin
6. Zohar
7. Pitcher
8. Brolin
9. Dyer
10. (Was Dyer the only selfish/rubbish striker?!)
11. Bowry
MANAGER - Venables
CHAIRMAN - Let me think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought diggers was a good keeper!
Dobbo
16-02-2001, 06:51 PM
Left back's easy....Fenwick
south london lalala
16-02-2001, 06:59 PM
One of my least favourite players of the last ten years has to have been Lee Sinnot. He was a jug eared hacker and I am amazed at how long a run he got in the team.
Having said that Brolin was a bit cr@p as well.........
zonin2000
16-02-2001, 07:03 PM
Im glad you didnt put harrison in at #3.
James Verrinder
16-02-2001, 07:09 PM
1. Wilmot
2. Hedman
3. Amsalem
4. Billio
5. Del Rio
6. Emblen
7. Matthew
8. Foster
9. Boere
10. Taylor
11. Ginty
All from the 90's I know but they are the freshest in the memory
Samo*
16-02-2001, 07:22 PM
Fozzy was alright http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/mad.gif
zonin2000
16-02-2001, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by James Verrinder:
11. Ginty
Ginty was pure class mate! http://www.cpfc.org/ubb/wink.gif
Seriously, Craig Foster wasn't THAT bad.
Leif Andersen is one that might be included.
James Varcoe
16-02-2001, 07:44 PM
1) Wilmot
2) Stebbing
3) Lacy
4) Andersson
5) Whyte
6) Price
7) Higgenbottam
8) Ketteridge
9) Galliers
10) Trollope
11) Mahoney
Pistike
16-02-2001, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by zonin2000:
Leif Andersen is one that might be included.
Understatement of the millenium.
Steve in Phoenix
16-02-2001, 07:46 PM
Amsalem was a good player, he was never given an extended run like Harrison has got. Wonder where he is now.
James Verrinder
16-02-2001, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by James Varcoe:
[8) Ketteridge
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Is that Steve Ketteridge? He gave out the medals for my cub football team when I was about 7. They told us he was a star and I have a photo of him giving us the medals at Selhurst sometime in the early/mid eighties at a 0-0 draw against Plymouth. I take it he wasn't any good then?!?
Ian Hart
16-02-2001, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by TC EAGLE:
jempie what about Paul Barron must be the worst keeper to put on the green jersey for Palace
Well, at least until Steve Mautone arrived on the scene........
Jaffa
16-02-2001, 11:26 PM
Steve Mautone?
You must have forgotten the gimp we sent to Bristol in exchange for the Nige.
Step forward, Brian Parkin
Vic Eagle
17-02-2001, 01:58 AM
In my book, Brian Parkin was not that bad a keeper. I never saw Steve Mautone play, but I have just received the last season highlights tape, and he looks absolute ******** on that.
The worst in my book:
1 Mautone (convicted on video evidence)
2 Stebbing
3 Fenwick
4 Price
5 Lacy
6 Andersen
7 Galliers
8 Bason
9 Langley
10 McCulloch
11 Higginbotham
IMHO, some who got a bad press...Barron (played in a poor side), Otulakowski (could have been OK, just always injured), Cummins (ditto).
I didn't think Perry Suckling was that good either.
Vic Eagle
17-02-2001, 02:00 AM
2074
Originally posted by Tony:
I loved the Team of the 80s and the Champions of 94 but they didn't make me laugh out loud the way that Chris Jones and Tommy Langley did – they were a comic pairing to match Morecambe and Wise, Reeves and Mortimer or even Flanagan and Allen.
Poor quality players are very much part of the whole fabric of what makes Crystal Palace.
Good post, Tony. Couldn't have put it better myself. Many of my memories of supporting Palace are of standing on the Holmesdale with friends from school, taking the piss out of Tommy Langley, Brian Bason, Terry Fenwick etc.
What about Zohar, Ismall and Padonova, those 3 were terrible.
Then there was Aylott, Higginsbottom, Kettering and that guy we got from Blackburn, who was nearly 40, played 20 minutes under Bassett and was released the next day!
The comment about Brian Bason is quite true, he seemed to play week in week out. I think the problem was that he and Brian Sparrow followed Kenny Sansom and they all looked terrible (if fact they were).
SteveB
17-02-2001, 03:43 PM
It always seems odd that, despite having such a concentration of terrible players in the early 1980s, the results were only moderately poor - the lower reaches of the old second division, in fact much the same as we are now.
I saw Palace in the old 3rd and 4th divisions, but there were few obviously useless players. The difference might have been that Mullery etc. kept putting their poor players in the first team, whereas Dick Graham, Bert Head, etc., would kick them out as soon as it was clear that they weren't up to it.
THEEAGLEHASLANDED
23-02-2001, 12:13 AM
tomas brollin must have been one of the worst.wasn,t he even manager at one stage.going back a few years does anyone remember jimmy scott.if he rolled his socks down we were infor a treat yet he always dribbled and lost the ball
Riccardo
23-02-2001, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by jempie:
10. (Was Dyer the only selfish/rubbish striker?!)
Gareth Taylor anyone ?
Digby last season was amazing one minute, absolutley awful the next.
Sorry Samo (I'm fearing repercussions), but I thought Foster was a pile of horsesh@t.
Mr_Optimistic
26-02-2001, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by TC EAGLE:
jempie what about Paul Barron must be the worst keeper to put on the green jersey for Palace
Yeah, Barron was a real liability early on and although never one of the best, he did improve considerably and I seem to recall the fans warmed to him towards the latter part of his stay at Palace.
He did have some good performances, didn't he, or is this all old age and too much whisky fogging memory cells?
Ian Hart
26-02-2001, 12:34 PM
I think we all measure players as much against expectations as actual achievement. Barron had the double disadvantage, expectation-wise, of:
1. Costing a lot of money
2. Replacing Burridge.
We therefore expected a lot, and never got it. You're right in thinking he did improve a bit, and there certainly have been a few worse. But he was never better than moderate.
welshneil
26-02-2001, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Dobbo:
Left back's easy....Fenwick
Took the words right out of my mouth. Was Mike Flanagan our worst ever striker or our worst ever signing?
Matty
26-02-2001, 01:41 PM
If we're talking goalies we can't forget David Fry. Signed by the famous Alan Mullery (nuff said) from Arsenal reserves (i think). Surely the worst keeper to play for us by a long way.
I never thought much of his successor, also signed by Mullery from Arsenal, George Wood, a keeper in the best scottish goalie tradition.
The rest must surely include (in no particular order):
Brian Bason
Steve Ketteridge
John Lacy
Gary Stebbing
Andy McCullogh
Keith Chegwin (look you cannot convince me that was the real Thomas Brolin)
I agree wholeheartedly about Tommy Langley as the best comedy act
walderslade eagle
26-02-2001, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by welshneil:
Originally posted by Dobbo:
Left back's easy....Fenwick
Was Mike Flanagan our worst ever striker or our worst ever signing?
No, in my opinion the 'Great dane' Per Bartram was.
Who Cares?
26-02-2001, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Matty:
If we're talking goalies we can't forget David Fry. Signed by the famous Alan Mullery (nuff said) from Arsenal reserves (i think). Surely the worst keeper to play for us by a long way.
Point of Order: Fry was in fact our 'keeper in the Youth Cup winning side of the late '70s which included Sansom, Nicholas, Gilbert etc.
Doesn't alter the point made though!
welshneil
28-02-2001, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by Who Cares?:
Point of Order: Fry was in fact our 'keeper in the Youth Cup winning side of the late '70s which included Sansom, Nicholas, Gilbert etc.
Doesn't alter the point made though!
Did a great "Eddie Shoestring" impression though!
noshortcorners
30-04-2001, 07:22 PM
After Saturday's abysmal display, or rather during Saturday's abysmal display, it occurred to me that we talk of greatness and individual skill because we love our team. In view of the total absence of either at the moment, can we have nominations for the worst players we've had to endure over the years at Selhurst and the all-time worst team we could possibly conjure up. As I have only been a regular at Selhurst for 11 years, I can only rely on a few "true candidates", so some gems from the 60's, 70's and early 80's would be really appreciated.
At least it'll give us all a few more laughs.
May I get the ball rolling with Gareth Taylor and our reserve goalie from 1995, whose name I will not print as my computer automatically deletes it, but gets a special award from those of us who were at Southampton that fateful night and hadn't even sat down when the w***** palmed it into his own net.
Up the Palace
01-05-2001, 09:30 PM
1)kevin miller
2)lee sinnott
3)valerien ismael
4)darren patterson
5)phil barber
6)tomas brolin
7)bobby bowry
8)marco gabbiadini
9)gareth taylor
10)michele padovano
11)jeroene boere
there are probably loads ive forgotten
200f
Levski
01-05-2001, 09:43 PM
Perry Suckling
Lee Sinnott
Leif Anderson
Tony Gale
Israeli Defender (forgotten his name)
Itzhak Zohar
Tomas Brolin
Ricky Newman
Craig Foster
Lee Bradbury
Trevor Aylott
Manager: Alan Smith
Can you imagine that lot doing the 'mental toughness' launching it forward thing? Urgh, God. I realize we've let some talent go over the years, (Jansen, Lombardo, Bent, Armstrong, Southgate, Wright, Salako) but looking at that lot its amazing we've been anywhere near the top two divisions for the last 25 years!
PeterH
01-05-2001, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Levski:
Perry Suckling
Lee Sinnott
Leif Anderson
Tony Gale
Israeli Defender (forgotten his name)
Itzhak Zohar
Tomas Brolin
Ricky Newman
Craig Foster
Lee Bradbury
Trevor Aylott
Manager: Alan Smith
Can you imagine that lot doing the 'mental toughness' launching it forward thing? Urgh, God. I realize we've let some talent go over the years, (Jansen, Lombardo, Bent, Armstrong, Southgate, Wright, Salako) but looking at that lot its amazing we've been anywhere near the top two divisions for the last 25 years!
Suckling, Sinnott, Newman and Bradbury are a bit harsh, especially Suckling who was a big part of the team that got us up.
What about Rudi Hedman and Mortimer.
Mal Come Ally Son
01-05-2001, 10:05 PM
In 1968/69 Bert Head signed two Scandinavians - Per Bartram and Borg Thorup. They probably made 20 apperances between them and if you want to know how bad they were just look at how s***e their names are - and then multiply that by 100.
Levski
01-05-2001, 10:15 PM
Yeah ok. Replace Bradbury with Taylor. (truly awful, and the same price)
Maybe Suckling was ok, not sure who's that bad a goalie. ALthough Wilmot made 2 disastrous errors in the Southampton game, he was brilliant against Spurs the week before, and did nothing else wrong.
That guy Taylor this year was pretty poor.
And Day got steadily worse after a competent enough start.
I still think Newman was rubbish, though!
What's happened to him after Millwall?
will hung
03-05-2001, 04:55 AM
Newman's at reading under the great (irony) Pardew - we might be geting both of them back next season, if my worst nightmare comes true
Psychokiller
03-05-2001, 11:54 PM
Miller
Hedman Gale Lacy Strong
Bason Stebbing Mahoney Mortimer
Aylott Bradbury
EagleSE24
04-05-2001, 04:36 AM
Don't forget Sasa Curcic and Iain Dowie. Paul Kitson on loan was pretty appalling too.
Tarby
04-05-2001, 04:43 AM
Pardew, Ketteridge and Aylott.
Jaffa
04-05-2001, 04:45 AM
Perry Suckling is very harsh. He was an accomplished keeper who won England B honours with Palace, and unfortunately was killed by that night at Anfield. If you are looking for bad keepers, surely look no further than Brian Parkin?
interested in sydney.
04-05-2001, 09:10 AM
Mal com ally son. As you have just joined see if you can go back to past posts these goliaths of Danish football are gone into in great depth. However I agree with you , pure rubbish.
Eric the Ginga
04-05-2001, 09:14 PM
Worst keeper, Paul Hammond
Back four: Stebbing Ismael Hedman Sinbad
Midfield: Pennyfather Pardew (controversial) Brolin Morticia
Forwards: Aylott, Fuller
dorset exile
06-05-2001, 02:58 AM
Hedman was pretty dire, except for the play off games with Swindon when he was outstanding. For that reason alone he can't get in.
I don't think this load of tosh could be bettered...
Paul Barron
Goodwin
Ben Anderson
Lacy
Stebbing
Price
Matthew
Galliers
Higginbotham
McCulloch
Mick Hill
Subs: Day
Brush
Cummins
Ian Edwards
Boere
Manager(s) Mullery & Smith
I feel better about the current lot already
noshortcorners
07-05-2001, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by dorset exile:
Hedman was pretty dire, except for the play off games with Swindon when he was outstanding. For that reason alone he can't get in.
I don't think this load of tosh could be bettered...
Paul Barron
Goodwin
Ben Anderson
Lacy
Stebbing
Price
Matthew
Galliers
Higginbotham
McCulloch
Mick Hill
Subs: Day
Brush
Cummins
Ian Edwards
Boere
Manager(s) Mullery & Smith
I feel better about the current lot already
That was the idea. God, I feel so different today compared with last week. See you all in August!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve Ketteridge
07-05-2001, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Tarby:
Pardew, Ketteridge and Aylott.
Behave yourself, Tarby.
GARYP
01-06-2002, 04:23 PM
WORST EVER PALACE PLAYERS
Stonewall
01-06-2002, 04:34 PM
This has been done on previous theads,:grrr:
pete eagle
01-06-2002, 07:37 PM
i'm sure it's worth mentioning Ismael,Leif anderson,Padovano and amir karic again
Neckinger Eagle
01-06-2002, 11:37 PM
Sorry, I must defend all those players! Ismael was only about 12 when we had him. Andersen... well he was good for comedy value! and Padevano and Karic, well, well, errr...
All right, I'll only defend Ismael then.
Anybody for Brian Basson? Actually, who was the last player we booed off the pitch? Wasn't that a certain Dean Austin in the Venables era?
2222
pete eagle
01-06-2002, 11:45 PM
1. Kevin Miller
2. Leif Anderson
3. Amir Karic
4. Valerien Ismael
5. Neil Ruddock
6. David Hopkin (this time around)
7. Craig Foster
8. David Amsalem
9. Paul Kitson (awful on loan at Palace)
10. Marco Gabbiadini
11. Michele Padovano
a team capable of relegation:D
pedro
02-06-2002, 06:04 PM
Miller may have the morals of an alley cat but you can hardly call him the worse goalkeeper we have had, I think your judgement is slightly clouded. He was a good goalkeeper but a louzy human being.
Jimbo ?
02-06-2002, 06:11 PM
i agree pedro - also there must have been worse midfielders than hoppy ! he may not be at his best now but he must still be better than some others
Trolley
02-06-2002, 06:42 PM
When one is referring to "Worst", clarification is required as to whether this refers to actual performances irrespective of transfer fee or whether this refers to "Worst Buys" in terms of the performances in relation to the transfer sums involved.
Mr Ismael at £2.7 Million is the player for which we have paid the most amount and when one considers his dire performances at the heart of our defence, the decision to purchase him was in my opinion a blunder of monumental proportions.
Other mistakes I believe were the purchases of Mr Padovano and to a lesser extent Mr Lombardo who one could argue was NOT good value when one considers the transfer fee and wages paid against the overall games that he played.
BUNGLE
02-06-2002, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by pedro
Miller may have the morals of an alley cat but you can hardly call him the worse goalkeeper we have had, I think your judgement is slightly clouded. He was a good goalkeeper but a louzy human being.
Miller was fecking awful, Where was he at Q.P.R?
pete eagle
02-06-2002, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Jimbo ?
i agree pedro - also there must have been worse midfielders than hoppy ! he may not be at his best now but he must still be better than some others
I'm sorry but this time around he has been truly awful.
As for keepers, we haven't exactly gone through lots of keepers and Miller is the worst of the lot we have had
Trolley
02-06-2002, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by pete eagle
I'm sorry but this time around he has been truly awful.
Pete Eagle,
I am in total agreement that Mr Hopkin has been a major disappointment since his return to our club and no tears would be shed by the supporters if he was to leave in the close season.
The one time "Hero" following "That" goal at Wembley has rather fallen from grace and is example of yet another poor signing by Mr Smith.
pedro
02-06-2002, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by pete eagle
As for keepers, we haven't exactly gone through lots of keepers and Miller is the worst of the lot we have had
I think you will find that Chris Day is the worst keeper we have had in recent times. Also Parkin, Suckling, Digby and Gregg were far worse than Miller. I didn't realise when we used to sing 'Super Kev, Super Kevin Miller' that it was an ironic chant.
pete eagle
02-06-2002, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by pedro
I think you will find that Chris Day is the worst keeper we have had in recent times. Also Parkin, Suckling, Digby and Gregg were far worse than Miller. I didn't realise when we used to sing 'Super Kev, Super Kevin Miller' that it was an ironic chant.
Gregg only played about a handful of games for us so it is unfair to compare him. Digby i thought was better than Miller. Parkin and Suckling you might have a case for but i didn't see Chris Day very much, anyone else wish to tell us about him
Trolley
02-06-2002, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by pete eagle
Chris Day very much, anyone else wish to tell us about him
Chris Day played 24 games for our great club in season 96-97 and looked akin to "Nervous Norris" at times.
He did NOT fill me with great confidence in his ability and will not go down in the annals of history as a goalkeeper who served our club with great distinction.
I understand that the poor laddie sustained a horrific broken leg whilst playing for QPR last season, and I wish him the very best of British with his recovery.
Rash the Smash
02-06-2002, 08:13 PM
Any "worst" starting eleven would have to include David Price, John Lacy, Trvor Aylott and Tommy Langley.
Jaffa
02-06-2002, 08:17 PM
Weve got Aylott, Weve got Aylott, You Aint.
Suckling was a good keeper, the 9-0 just destroyed his confidence.
leekent1
04-06-2002, 03:41 AM
Jeff Hopkins (Own goal specialist)
Sleeping Giant
05-06-2002, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by pete eagle
1. Kevin Miller
2. Leif Anderson
3. Amir Karic
4. Valerien Ismael
5. Neil Ruddock
6. David Hopkin (this time around)
7. Craig Foster
8. David Amsalem
9. Paul Kitson (awful on loan at Palace)
10. Marco Gabbiadini
11. Michele Padovano
a team capable of relegation:D
Gabbiadini........averaging 1 goal in 3 games in the highest League for Palace and he's on your all time worse list? Are you taking the pi**??:eek:
pete eagle
05-06-2002, 02:04 AM
are you sure we're talking about the same Gabbiadini, the one i remember is the one that every time i saw him he looked like a one legged donkey. although i didn't get to many games around that time. He can always be replaced......
Sleeping Giant
05-06-2002, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by pete eagle
are you sure we're talking about the same Gabbiadini, the one i remember is the one that every time i saw him he looked like a one legged donkey. although i didn't get to many games around that time. He can always be replaced......
He did look donkeyesque for sure and would certainly be in my ugliest Palace 11 of all time (not that I can talk!!) but he scored a vital away winner at scummy Cov City and in the 2-1 win at Anfield (I think) as well as averaging the 1 in 3. For that he deserves love, love ,love in my book!
Collymore looked a donkey compared with Wright too and he went on to proove he could play with the best.
1fa3
Geezer
05-06-2002, 02:42 AM
What about Zohar, value for money wise he wasnt exactly a great buy, but we never really had a look at him.
pete eagle
05-06-2002, 02:45 AM
i think we can fit Zohar in the worst 11 somewhere
Neckinger Eagle
05-06-2002, 02:48 AM
Amir Karic was being highlighted on TV as one of the better players for Slovenia against Spain. On another thread, his mere appearance in the World Cup would make him appear to be better than Matt Jansen!
pete eagle
05-06-2002, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by Neckinger Eagle
Amir Karic was being highlighted on TV as one of the better players for Slovenia against Spain. On another thread, his mere appearance in the World Cup would make him appear to be better than Matt Jansen!
yeh but he did play cr@p in that game as far and i did watch most of it. There was always space behind him and he wasn't too clever with his distribution.
And he played absoulutely awful for Palace.
nicky
05-06-2002, 04:12 AM
Ive got to defend Leif Andersen. He didnt do any lasting damage, and didnt cost us any money.
Im surprised nobodys mentioned Lee Sinnott. He was rubbish, and we had better players in reserve.
Ismael, Padavano, and Zohar were the biggest disasters though.
Palaceman2002
23-10-2002, 02:33 PM
What would be the worst ever Palace X1 since you've been watching the eagles?
Carresso? (fat keeper from last year)
Austin
Frampton
Patterson
Brolin
Wayne Carlise
Pitcher
Mortimer
Taylor (Gareth)
Padavano
Wordsworth (don't think he ever played first team but, was awful)
Not sure i can come up with a w,orst 11, but Steve Thomson, Craig Harrison, Austin and Brolin would all feature
Originally posted by Palaceman2002
What would be the worst ever Palace X1 since you've been watching the eagles?
Carresso? (fat keeper from last year)
Austin
Frampton
Patterson
Brolin
Wayne Carlise
Pitcher
Mortimer
Taylor (Gareth)
Padavano
Wordsworth (don't think he ever played first team but, was awful)
Have been trying to remember Wordsworth for ages, absolutely the worst I've ever seen in a Palace shirt(in any position). He did play for the first team although it may have been in a pre season friendly or as sub in the Worthington. Seem to remeber him playing for Stevenage against Newcastle a few years later
Disagree with a number of others though,
Carasso only appeared for 45 minutes and played well. Vastly better than
Steve Mautone:sob:
Austin not a favourite but not amongst the worst, in fact I think your forwards choice is pretty good(bad) but the rest are all arguable;)
grovesy77
23-10-2002, 04:35 PM
Totally disagree with the inclusion of Pitcher and number of others!
Popester
23-10-2002, 04:39 PM
Pitcher was awful
BaldEagle96
24-10-2002, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by Popester
Pitcher was awful
But he scored a GREAT goal against Wolves!!!! And he had fight in him - which is a hell of a lot more than most of todays team have!
Oz_da_Eagle
24-10-2002, 01:56 AM
How could Carrasso be the worst Palace keeper ever if he never conceded a goal in the first team? His distribution was excellant and he did make one very good save in his 45 minutes as a Palace player.
James Varcoe
24-10-2002, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Rash the Smash
Any "worst" starting eleven would have to include David Price, John Lacy, Trvor Aylott and Tommy Langley.
Played golf with David Price today. Within 10 minutes of chatting he said
'I still wonder why Palace fans got on my back so much.'
Originally posted by James Varcoe
Played golf with David Price today. Within 10 minutes of chatting he said
'I still wonder why Palace fans got on my back so much.'
I hope you explained it was because he was an abysmal footballer?
Nelson Muntz
28-10-2003, 09:31 AM
Neil Shipperley?
Maidstoned Eagle
28-10-2003, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by James Varcoe
Played golf with David Price today. Within 10 minutes of chatting he said
'I still wonder why Palace fans got on my back so much.'
Did he miss every green by twelve foot?
Scroatey
28-10-2003, 09:38 AM
Dare I suggest the following XI appear to be the worst Palace team you could assemble from my living memory:
Berthelin
Symons - Fleming - Powell
Butterfield - Derry - Aki - Black
Johnson
Freedman - Shipperley
Maidstoned Eagle
28-10-2003, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by Scroatey
Dare I suggest the following XI appear to be the worst Palace team you could assemble from my living memory:
Berthelin
Symons - Fleming - Powell
Butterfield - Derry - Aki - Black
Johnson
Freedman - Shipperley
Are you the same bloke who was singing Cedrics praises last week? You turncoat!
Nelson Muntz
28-10-2003, 09:43 AM
Shaun Derry
Scroatey
28-10-2003, 09:57 AM
1f50
Originally posted by Maidstoned Eagle
Are you the same bloke who was singing Cedrics praises last week? You turncoat! Bugger - rumbled!
Actually what I was getting at was the overall league performance, it must be up there with the worst, not individual crapness - I do still rate Berthelin, and worship Butters and Dougie :lux: In fact it IS a good XI on paper...
Looking at these I cant belive that we can muster so many combo's of midfield ineptitude and there hasnt been a mention of Steve Leahy and Ricky Heppolette....
Golf Boy
20-05-2004, 01:37 PM
What about a pole for the worst ever Palace XI????
Daveyboyross
20-05-2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Golf Boy
What about a pole for the worst ever Palace XI????
Flag pole?
ReadingPalace
20-05-2004, 01:42 PM
I presume you mean poll?
I'm happy to kick off with my vote for our most dodgy of dodgy keepers.
Step forward Fraser Digby!
CallMeBernard
20-05-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Golf Boy
What about a pole for the worst ever Palace XI????
I don't know about a pole, but I bet an israeli or a swede will be considered for our worst ever XI
andy m
20-05-2004, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by ReadingPalace
I presume you mean poll?
I'm happy to kick off with my vote for our most dodgy of dodgy keepers.
Step forward Fraser Digby!
Not Kevin Miller then? Okay, so not worse than Fraser but who stayed when the going got tough?
ReadingPalace
20-05-2004, 03:54 PM
Miller certainly deserves a (dis)honourable mention.
I'd also opt for Trevor Aylott up front - Eddie Murphy's part in Shrek should have gone to him as well.
MartinE
20-05-2004, 04:01 PM
Zohar for penalty taking duties methinks
gold76
20-05-2004, 04:28 PM
We could fill up alot more than 1 team! Plenty of jokers down at Selhurst over the years, Lee Sinnott's gotta be included, any striker Mullers bought in too
FOSSBLOKE
20-05-2004, 04:38 PM
David Price and Steve Ketteridge would be the first two on my team sheet.
stushirts
20-05-2004, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by andy m
Not Kevin Miller then? Okay, so not worse than Fraser but who stayed when the going got tough?
sorry id have to vote for chris day
Johnson
20-05-2004, 06:10 PM
carl veart in midfield or up front, I thought he was utter crap, even though he scored afew goals.
Golf Boy
20-05-2004, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by ReadingPalace
I presume you mean poll?
I'm happy to kick off with my vote for our most dodgy of dodgy keepers.
Step forward Fraser Digby!
Sorry.... I can't believe I made that spelling mistake. You must all think I am the thickest c*nt on the planet. I'll use the (poor) excuse that i've been living abroad for the last eight years!
George Fry was a pretty bad keeper if my memory serves me.
Nelson Muntz
20-05-2004, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by Golf Boy
George Fry was a pretty bad keeper if my memory serves me.
Your memory's crap. We've never had a 'keeper called George Fry.
Golf Boy
20-05-2004, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by Nelson Muntz
Your memory's crap. We've never had a 'keeper called George Fry.
Who came in after Paul Barron then??
Super Mabbutt
20-05-2004, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by Golf Boy
[B
George Fry was a pretty bad keeper if my memory serves me. [/B]
DAVID Fry
Tommy Langley, Brian Bason, Andy McCulloch, Trevor Aylott, Tony Mahoney, Les Strong, John Lacey, David Price.
Nelson Muntz
20-05-2004, 06:43 PM
Your thinking of George Wood.
David Fry was a keeper for us as well though.
ExeterEagle
20-05-2004, 06:44 PM
Leif Anderson?
Golf Boy
20-05-2004, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Nelson Muntz
Your thinking of George Wood.
David Fry was a keeper for us as well though.
So my spelling AND my memory for players names are F*ucked up. I'm having a bad day here.
stevek
20-05-2004, 09:59 PM
Gary Stebbing, Andy Higginbottom, Glenn Pennyfather
Surely Rhys Wilmot in goal?
a2btaxi
20-05-2004, 10:03 PM
thomas brolin has surely got to be captain cr*p.
surely this has been done b4. i got slatted for repeating threads.
cantspell
20-05-2004, 10:08 PM
wood
stebbing
karic
lacey
sinnott
price
basson
zohar
ketteridge
aylott
mahoney
Rich the Eagle
20-05-2004, 10:11 PM
Leif Anderson for me. Gareth Taylor up front?
2006
AndyStreet
20-05-2004, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by Johnson
carl veart in midfield or up front, I thought he was utter crap, even though he scored afew goals.
But Carl Veart was a goal machine. :afro:
DaveS
20-05-2004, 10:18 PM
Per Bartram up front, surely?
stevek
20-05-2004, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by cantspell
wood
stebbing
karic
lacey
sinnott
price
basson
zohar
ketteridge
aylott
mahoney
Harsh on Wood - for a couple of years in the mid-eighties (when we were, admittedly, awful) he was one of our best players. I think he got player of the year once. Hard to argue with the rest, though.
Shipp Ahoy!
20-05-2004, 10:56 PM
Thomas Brolin
Ade Akinbiyi
Mikele Padavano
Curtis Flemming
ALAN PARDEW ;)
Slimbloke'H'
20-05-2004, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by DaveS
Per Bartram up front, surely? ...stop calling me Shirley!
Per was a bit pants, I must agree...
hughff
20-05-2004, 11:11 PM
Trouble with this is that some of our players have indeed been crap but some were crap for Palace. Ray Wilkins, despite all his England caps, would be in my list of worst ever Palace players (and I use the term loosely.) Didn't he play all of 45 minutes then retire.
cantspell
20-05-2004, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by stevek
Harsh on Wood - for a couple of years in the mid-eighties (when we were, admittedly, awful) he was one of our best players. I think he got player of the year once. Hard to argue with the rest, though.
I think the problem with picking as worst ever keeper is that the majority of keepers we have had werecompetent - I just remember that when he started to lose it - he really lost it, but he would have been the best payer in that team. (Should have picked Salako in goal)
cantspell
20-05-2004, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by Shipp Ahoy!
Thomas Brolin
Ade Akinbiyi
Mikele Padavano
Curtis Flemming
ALAN PARDEW ;) Jesus Shipp Ahoy - You have been quite lucky as you must have missed the mid 80s when we really had some dross playing for us
magician
21-05-2004, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by hughff
Trouble with this is that some of our players have indeed been crap but some were crap for Palace. Ray Wilkins, despite all his England caps, would be in my list of worst ever Palace players (and I use the term loosely.) Didn't he play all of 45 minutes then retire.
more like 75 but although we got tonked by liverpool he was class , if he hadn't have been injured we'd have stayed up , replaced him with pitcher and newman!!!!!!!!!!! until little ray houghton came and gave us some much needed experience
What about that other Israel fellow? Amsalaem ?
Rich the Eagle
21-05-2004, 08:43 AM
I think you mean Valerian Ismael.
To be fair as we bought* him so close to the end of the 97/98 season he never had a real chance to justify why we splashed out a club record for him.
* I say bought, but apparently we never paid Strasbourg for him when we said we would!
Panther
21-05-2004, 09:03 AM
No, he means David Amsalem and he was certainly bad enough to warant consideration.
We would have so many worst XI's is unreal but someone who'd surely make all of them for anyone who saw him is Gary Stebbing
...totally incapabable of kicking straight with either foot, no heading, tackling or passing ability and total inability to read the game, he could panic very well though if an opponent came within twenty feet of him
The mind boggles how he ever became a footballer...
Psychokiller
21-05-2004, 11:43 AM
Mautone
Stebbing
Lacy
Tuttle
Lindsay
Ginty
Pennyfather
Mahoney
Mortimer
G.Taylor
Aylott
Daveyboyross
21-05-2004, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Aylott
Blasphemer!
higham_eagle
21-05-2004, 11:56 AM
Surprised that no-one has mentioned Dean Austin(?)
DAVE 11
21-05-2004, 12:02 PM
Have some of this
Matt Gregg
David Amselem, Dean Austin, Leif Andersen, Craig Harrison
Rory Ginty, Darren Pitcher, Bobby Bowry,
Carl Veart, Tomas Brolin
Manager
Venables
Subs
Rys Wilmot
Kevin Muscat
Nicky Rizzo
Itzak Zohar
Paul Williams
Would fancy my Sunday Side to beat this bunch of elite professionals!
DAVE 11
21-05-2004, 12:07 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DAVE 11
[B]Have some of this
Matt Gregg
David Amselem, Dean Austin, Leif Andersen, Craig Harrison
Rory Ginty, Darren Pitcher, Bobby Bowry,
Carl Veart, Tomas Brolin
Manager
Venables
Subs
Rys Wilmot
Kevin Muscat
Nicky Rizzo
Itzak Zohar
Paul Williams
Would fancy my Sunday Side to beat this bunch of elite professionals!
Ha Ha Just realised I only selected 10, will have to use a sub bring in Zohar and select Wayne Carlisle on the bench!
El Aguila
21-05-2004, 12:13 PM
There was a guy who played alongside Gary Stebbing who was worse than him, though he didn't make nearly as many appearances, called Ken O'Doherty - almost comically inept. Wasn't Brian Sparrow pretty bad as well?
1fbb
gold76
21-05-2004, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Psychokiller
Mautone
Stebbing
Lacy
Tuttle
Lindsay
Ginty
Pennyfather
Mahoney
Mortimer
G.Taylor
Aylott
That's a very 'strong' worst Palace X1.. Bit harsh on Tuttle though, I've seen worse!
gold76
21-05-2004, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by DAVE 11
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DAVE 11
[B]Have some of this
Ha Ha Just realised I only selected 10, will have to use a sub bring in Zohar and select Wayne Carlisle on the bench!
Oh Lord, Wayne Carlisle! Bit harsh on Bowry though Imho
gold76
21-05-2004, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by El Aguila
There was a guy who played alongside Gary Stebbing who was worse than him, though he didn't make nearly as many appearances, called Ken O'Doherty - almost comically inept. Wasn't Brian Sparrow pretty bad as well?
Didn't Ken O' Doherty once score against Utd at Old Trafford in a league cup tie? Must have been his only decent contribution :o
Stuart Massey and Paul Mortimer have to fit in that team somewhere.
garner
21-05-2004, 02:25 PM
Andy Turner
EagleSE24
21-05-2004, 02:36 PM
I remember hearing great things about Tony Scully and Brain Launders a few years back when they were in the reserves/youth team. If memory serves, they both became complete pony when it came to step up to the first team. Can anyone confirm this?
Danger
21-05-2004, 02:56 PM
Why is there no mention for Sean Hankin. He played twice was absolute pony and got released :D
Panther
21-05-2004, 03:03 PM
He was ok in the resrerves though. Anyway to qualify for this team surely you ought to have to prove your "pony-ness" by performing accordingly over more than a couple of games? In which case the likes of Lacy, Price and Bason strike me as being utter certs.
Scifo
21-05-2004, 03:08 PM
Was there a player that blagged his way onto our team and the Newcastle first team before being haulled of after 20 minutes, described as the only Brazilian that didnt know how to play football?
There was ceratinly one or two of the south americans that came cheap under Venables time that were meant to be abysmal. Walter Del Rio was one who came over, I cant remember if he was any good though.
EagleSE24
21-05-2004, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Scifo
Walter Del Rio was one who came over, I cant remember if he was any good though.
He was pony
ReadingPalace
21-05-2004, 03:22 PM
Too many players in here who weren't really bad for us on a consistent basis.
Veart, for instance, was certainly shockingly poor fairly regularly. However, he did have a storming game at Charlton in the play-offs ('96?) where he scored, thus elevating his status to at least lower average.
aquilla
25-05-2004, 12:32 PM
Barron
Stebbing Anderson Lacy Brush
Price Bason Ketteridge Pennyfather
Mculloch Edwards
I would back my team to lose to any of yours!
northerneagle
25-05-2004, 12:41 PM
would Marco Gabbiadini not fit in here??:confused: :(
Jim Cannon
25-05-2004, 03:28 PM
Les Strong
Dean Greygoose
Tommy Langley
Steve Galloway
Excowboy
25-05-2004, 03:35 PM
I'd have to put Gareth Davies in defence on the basis that he'd be sent off after 2 minutes
ReadingPalace
25-05-2004, 03:51 PM
Yet again Marco Gabbiadini gets an inevitable mention when discussing poor Palace players.
Anyone who thinks that, however, probably didn't see him play. He was a pretty good forward with a reasonable goals per game ratio. Unfortunately for him he was brought in to replace Ian Wright - a tough act to follow - and his style of play wasn't suited to the long-ball tactics that Coppell favoured at the time.
If you're putting together a 'failed to live up to expectations' Palace XI, then maybe he'd get a look in, but there is no way that he'd even make the bench of our worst team ever.
Jim Cannon
25-05-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Scifo
Was there a player that blagged his way onto our team and the Newcastle first team before being haulled of after 20 minutes, described as the only Brazilian that didnt know how to play football?
There was ceratinly one or two of the south americans that came cheap under Venables time that were meant to be abysmal. Walter Del Rio was one who came over, I cant remember if he was any good though.
That was Fumaca, who mysteriously changed his name to Antunes when he went to Newcastle, presumably hoping that with a different name nobody would know it was him.
Craig Harrison, Fraser Digby
Sussex Eagle
25-05-2004, 04:42 PM
Mentions of Fraser Digby, and Bobby Bowry seem very harsh to me. Not greats by any stretch of the imagination, but I remember Digny as being a reasonable player who generally got the job done without being spectacular, rather like Dean Austin. Bowry had one or two very good games early on, though admittedly it faded pretty quickly, the worst XI has surely got to be reserved for those who never showed an inkling of anything?
Actually Nicky Rizzo was pretty good, but he had an attitude problem apparently which is why SC was not a fan.
will hung
25-05-2004, 08:49 PM
1f59
presumably most of the team that finished bottom of Div3 South in the 50s
George Wood (never forget his 'great' clearance from the touchline) - and was Phil Barber that good?!?!?! A Palace legend for sure, but doesnt anyone ever remember talking about hanging a carrot on the bar of the opposition so he went for goal???? Used to crack me up!
davematt
25-05-2004, 09:01 PM
Thomas Brolin has to be included, so does that Itzac Zohar (That prat who missed the penalty against Southampton at Selhurst in 1997/98)
BALDYEAGLE
25-05-2004, 09:08 PM
the worst player i ever saw was steve leahy in the early 80's he came on as a sub and the first thing he did was fall over the ball f--king useless rudi hedman was dog s--te as well
westsussexeagle
25-05-2004, 09:18 PM
Padavano, Zohar and Valerian must start. Miller also if only for being a Judas. IMHO Brolin was a better player than many in that season and deserves to avoid this ignominy. Perry Suckling in goal - George Wood even at his very fattest was better. Most of the players Venables bought second time round, lots of players Allison bought first time etc. etc.
henryhallandhisbasque
25-05-2004, 09:18 PM
1) Hammond
2) Zohar
3)The Zohar Twins
4) Er...
5) Leif Garrett
6) John Salthouse
7) Hugh Jarse
8) Tommy Brolin
9) Mick Padavano
10) The Zohar Quads
11) That Dodgy Argentinian Venatestacles signed before he buggered off..Waldo Los Rios?
12) The Zohar sisters
14) Curcic
15) De Courcey
16) Nookie Bear
18) 20 stones of Morrison from Inverness
Manager Alan Smith
westsussexeagle
25-05-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Panther
No, he means David Amsalem and he was certainly bad enough to warant consideration.
Indeed I forgot him. Thanks - I think...
bern5161
25-05-2004, 09:24 PM
Anyone remember Gareth Wotsisname who we bought from Bristol?
EagleinOz
25-05-2004, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by DAVE 11
Have some of this
Matt Gregg
David Amselem, Dean Austin, Leif Andersen, Craig Harrison
Rory Ginty, Darren Pitcher, Bobby Bowry,
Carl Veart, Tomas Brolin
Manager
Venables
Subs
Rys Wilmot
Kevin Muscat
Nicky Rizzo
Itzak Zohar
Paul Williams
Would fancy my Sunday Side to beat this bunch of elite professionals!
Dean Austin was awful but then I seem to remember he voluntarily dropped his appearance fee for each game, cause we had f*ck all money obviously, and he seemed to start playin much better, like the pressure was off. Appearance fees? Goldberg you joke!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by westsussexeagle
[B]Padavano, Zohar and Valerian must start. Miller also if only for being a Judas. IMHO Brolin was a better player than many in that season and deserves to avoid this ignominy. Perry Suckling in goal -
Perry Suckling was a fantastic goalkeeper for Palace, without whom we would not have won promotion in 1989. To name him as our worst ever goalkeeper is little short of criminal.
EagleinOz
25-05-2004, 09:32 PM
And defo that money grabber venables as manager. that ••••••• really couldn't be arsed with anything except collecting his money
westsussexeagle
25-05-2004, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by CHE
[QUOTE]Originally posted by westsussexeagle
[B]Padavano, Zohar and Valerian must start. Miller also if only for being a Judas. IMHO Brolin was a better player than many in that season and deserves to avoid this ignominy. Perry Suckling in goal -
Perry Suckling was a fantastic goalkeeper for Palace, without whom we would not have won promotion in 1989. To name him as our worst ever goalkeeper is little short of criminal.
We all have our views and you clearly have a 'thing' about Perry. That's fine but my views aren't 'criminal'. They just happen to be different to yours. That's what this thread is about - people's views - or hadn't you realised that?
IAN WALSH
25-05-2004, 09:42 PM
was anyone else at Leicster away when g.wood gave the best goalkeeping performance ever..........SHOCKING!
stevek
26-05-2004, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by IAN WALSH
was anyone else at Leicster away when g.wood gave the best goalkeeping performance ever..........SHOCKING!
Funny thing with each of Wood, Suckling and Miller. All three goalkeepers were, for parts of the time at the club, among our best performers. And then, by the end of their Palace careers, they'd all put in performances which gave them a shout for the worst ever XI - Wood because he was finally past it (although to be fair a mate of mine was at uni in Cardiff and saw him do alright for them after he left us); Suckling because his confidence had been shot; and Miller because he's a XXXX
aquilla
27-05-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by BALDYEAGLE
the worst player i ever saw was steve leahy in the early 80's he came on as a sub and the first thing he did was fall over the ball f--king useless rudi hedman was dog s--te as well
I forgot Leahy- God we have did have some shit in the 80's- IMost of my team come from then, and I think that anyone who stuck with us at that time will agree that the majority of that lot were absolute pony and far far worse than anything since.
And I couldn't include Hedman because of 2 great games against Swindon in the Play Off Semi Finals in 89- especially in the heat in Wiltshire. Sure he did nothing else ever but thats enough to keep him out IMHO
Palaceboy222
29-05-2004, 08:39 PM
Istic Zohars got to be up front
1fa1
Originally posted by Panther
He was ok in the resrerves though. Anyway to qualify for this team surely you ought to have to prove your "pony-ness" by performing accordingly over more than a couple of games? In which case the likes of Lacy, Price and Bason strike me as being utter certs.
Tommy Langley ?
Golf Boy
10-06-2004, 07:11 AM
The player that always used to p1ss me off when I saw his name on the teamsheet was Phil Barber. Had Barber been playing in the mid-eighties he would have been named countless times in this thread. He did try hard though.
Owngoal
10-06-2004, 07:43 AM
Everyone seems to have forgotten Venables as a player, he was pants and Malcolm Allison quickly said he could have a big future as a manager (to be fair to him we did have the team of the 80s). Derek Possee, big money buy from Millwall, the shortest centre forward we ever had. Memory was playing a year without scoring when the ITV Big Match always started with his wonder goal for Millwall. Those were the days......
stevek
10-06-2004, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by Golf Boy
The player that always used to p1ss me off when I saw his name on the teamsheet was Phil Barber. Had Barber been playing in the mid-eighties he would have been named countless times in this thread. He did try hard though.
? - Barber did play in the mid-80s. (I think he was Coppell's first signing in 1984). Barber was a limited player, but (as you say) he did try hard and I think there are better candidates than him for the worst ever 11.
Igor Iconic
10-06-2004, 08:11 AM
Rudi Hedman. Stan Collymore was dreadful for us too. Stuart Taylor whilst on loan was utter pony. Carl Veart as previously mentioned (I saw him play for Northern Spirit in Oz and he was shocking for them too). Gareth Taylor: useless. Akinbiyi: useless. Padovano: dreadful. Zohar: unspeakable. Brolin: embarassing. The list is endless....
PhilD
10-06-2004, 08:27 AM
I always thought Fraser Digby did pretty well for us. His save away at QPR when we won 1-0 was the stuff of legends!
ebyeeckeagle
10-06-2004, 08:36 AM
Leeds colleagues around me still laugh at us signing Brolin from them (remember the head bandgage game for those old enough?).
Trevor Aylott without doubt.
Ardent Eagle Forever
10-06-2004, 08:50 AM
Oh ye of short memorirs!!!
If I remember correctly, George Wood was player of the season at least once, probably twice!!!!
Golf Boy
10-06-2004, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by stevek
? - Barber did play in the mid-80s. (I think he was Coppell's first signing in 1984). Barber was a limited player, but (as you say) he did try hard and I think there are better candidates than him for the worst ever 11.
You're right......I meant had he not played for one of our best ever teams, he would be included in this poll more often.
Brolin in fact was the best player ever to play at Palace - a striker who was a class act on the world stage for many years ( more so than Lombardo or Wright ) and Swedens best forward when they came 3rd in the world cup. Shit for Palace though! How did he lose so much pace in so short a time -- made Andy Roberts look quick.
Simon A
10-06-2004, 09:04 AM
Ok - I'll need help with this one cos I was a bit too young at the time but didn't Big Mal sign a madly expensive (at the time) bloke called Mick Hill right at the end of the transfer season and have him helicoptered onto the pitch just before KO? (might have imagined that bit seeing as I was only about 6) Anyway he arrived with a big fanfare, was pants and ended up only playing a few first team games.
swede
10-06-2004, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by Golf Boy
Brolin in fact was the best player ever to play at Palace - a striker who was a class act on the world stage for many years ( more so than Lombardo or Wright ) and Swedens best forward when they came 3rd in the world cup. Shit for Palace though! How did he lose so much pace in so short a time -- made Andy Roberts look quick.
Short? He lost his pace and motivation for the game over a period of 3-4 years. Never really recovered from his broken leg, and couldn´t handle Wilkinson/Graham when he went to Leeds.
But surely there must have been 11 players in Palace´s history that have been worse than him?
Philr_99
10-06-2004, 01:13 PM
I've read through four pages of this and astonishingly there's been no mention of the defender we got on loan from Arsenal- Jason Crowe.
rbarmy
10-06-2004, 01:17 PM
Rudi Hedman
rbarmy
10-06-2004, 01:18 PM
and of course Marco Gabbiadini
calne eagle
10-06-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Simon A
Ok - I'll need help with this one cos I was a bit too young at the time but didn't Big Mal sign a madly expensive (at the time) bloke called Mick Hill right at the end of the transfer season and have him helicoptered onto the pitch just before KO? (might have imagined that bit seeing as I was only about 6) Anyway he arrived with a big fanfare, was pants and ended up only playing a few first team games.
I don't know about the helicopter, but Mick Hill certainly was shocking.
I did see him score eventually, though (I'm not even sure it wasn't his only goal) - against Preston, I think.
Smurph
10-06-2004, 01:27 PM
Bason, Price, Langley, Sparrow, Ketteridge, Higinbottom, Lacey, Mahoney, Aylott, Giles, Leahy, Lovell, almost everyone who played for us in the Mullery era. God those were dark days. How we managed to stay in Div 2 I don't know.
stevek
10-06-2004, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by rbarmy
and of course Marco Gabbiadini
7 goals in 21 games in the top flight - hardly that bad a record (if AJ scores 1 in 3 next year, I think we'll all be happy). He just didn't fit in with our style.
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PalaceSi
10-06-2004, 01:47 PM
Chris Day
G.Stebbing L. Anderson J Lacy L Sinnott
D Price I Zohar C Veart P Barber
T Aylott T Langley
Manager A Mullery
That is one Pig of a side.
Simon A
10-06-2004, 01:49 PM
Amir Karic!!!!!!!!!!!!
knackers
26-11-2004, 11:46 AM
Parkin Subs: Ruddock
Burke Pennyfather
Sinnott Padavano
Ismael J.Hopkin
Gale Boere
Massey
Brolin
Zohar
Aylott
G.Taylor
Mortimer
Phil O'Sophical
26-11-2004, 09:46 PM
What amazes me is that Ismael, who was total sh!te for us and makes most worst XI's, won a Bundesliga league and cup double with Werder Bremen last year and on Wednesday marked Christian Vieri out of a Champions' League game against Inter Milan and topped it all by scoring a 90th minute penalty. How can a player who was so sh!te for us end up being that good.
big bad John
26-11-2004, 10:27 PM
most of my main memories are from the 70's, so here's my worst 11 from that era.
1 Peter Caswell
2 Borge Thorup
3 Terry Fenwick.
4 Venables ( who played diabolical for us)
5 Bobby Bell
6 Ricky Heppolette.
7 Jim Scott
8 Alan Pinkney
9 Per Bartram
10 Neil Martin
11 Terry Wharton
ElwissAtMemphis
26-11-2004, 11:51 PM
If you want to include all the truely awful players from the early 80's, you need to experiment with an adventurous 3-2-5 formation to include all the unspeakable strikers we had. It's a pretty pointless exercise if your not allowed to pick a hopeless formation as well as the most hopeless players,
Obviously a truely crappy team requires the worst goalkeeper ever to grace the number 1 jersey at Selhurst Park and at the danger of being a bit controversial, I'm struggling to think of a worse Palace keeper in recent living memory than ,,,
Julian Speroni
I'm then going build from the back with a flat 3-man defence of...
John Lacy - Les Strong - Brian Bason
I fancy a pair of real midfield generals to stamp their authority on the game, dictate play and supply the requisite ammo for the deadly 5-man strike force that I'm planning and there's only two men for the job...
David Price - Steve Ketteridge
And finally, the masterstroke. A 5-man forward line using the absolute cream of Palace strike-forces over the era who struck terror into ... into ... into, well nobody in particular. We need a 50's-era tactician to arrange them into one of those inside-left/outside-right etc formations and all the rest but the boys leading the line have got to be ...
Chris Jones, Andy McCulloch. Ade Akinbiyi, Trevor Aylott, Tommy Langley
Now that's a team I'd almost consider paying to watch.
Sir.S.C Remembered
18-08-2006, 12:14 AM
Carosso is still Marseiiles no1 i think and looking in good shape
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