Clinton to Derby! [Archive]

SmithEagle

07-08-2000, 02:19 AM

It would be great to get Gordon back!

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John 24

07-08-2000, 02:25 AM

Selling Clint would be a very bad move. But it would be good to see Deano back.

Gooders

07-08-2000, 02:32 AM

Can we get Sturridge in part-ex?

After all, he's supposed to be considering a move to Birmingham so maybe he wouldn't mind dropping down a division.

screamingalice

07-08-2000, 02:34 AM

I cant see clinton leaving London, or Jordan letting him go at this stage of the season. The papers are just speculating moves for Derby because Christie and their other attacking players are all out for the beggining of the season.

Grim Reaper

07-08-2000, 02:45 AM

£3 Million? I suppose we should be grateful it's realistic money but I still don't think we should consider letting CM go at this stage. His natural goalscoring ability is the difference between us finishing mid-table and being relegated. In every win after he returned from injury in January, Clinton was amongst the scorers and was the ONLY scorer on two occasions.

What Jordan has to ask is can we replace Clinton for £3 million and I think the answer quite simply is no.

Dillenger

07-08-2000, 02:47 AM

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!

F*ck that.

Clinton's the best prospect outside of the premier, selling him would be nothing short of a disgrace. I can't believe people are even entertaining the idea. Is this (hopefully) just an idle rumour, or is there any fact in it.

I f*cking hope not.

anti-addick

07-08-2000, 02:58 AM

Am I the only one who thinks that Gordon is crap? It comes as no surprise to me that he can't make the Boro team, he couldn't trap a bag of cement.

Please let this be rumour - I think it is but I won't be surprised if Clinton wants away if we don't do well.

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henryhallandhisbasque

07-08-2000, 03:00 AM

This is most disturbing news. Has Clinton leaving the club, got anything to do with the management change?
I don't want Kitson, he is essentially a Premiership reserve.
Saying that, he will probably reject us and we'll get Gareth Taylor back, god help us.

Eagle

07-08-2000, 03:43 AM

Now come on guys, how often do you believe a newspaper story, it's mere speculation, not sure what paper this was printed in but one paper out of how many, come on!
Also, Clinton said today he wants to stay at Palace and Jordan has said there's no way that he'll sell either Mullins and Morrison, in fact they are apparently in negotiations regarding new contracts, this is just mere paper talk, i can't really see this being true.

Worthing Eagle

07-08-2000, 03:55 AM

anti-addick, Dean Gordon crap??

He's a great player, although his game does depend on confidence. He took on United singlehandedly at Old Trafford a few years ago, but when he's not sure of his form he can be a bit hesitant.

I'd love to see the original Deano back, we do need a left-back, if we can't get Cole then Gordon is a good second.

Anyway before he got injured for a year he was a regular in the boro side; but this season he'd be competing with Ziege.

Small number

07-08-2000, 04:01 AM

I'd love Gordon back but wot would we sign?... There's only 2 deano's?

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Worthing Eagle

07-08-2000, 04:08 AM

we could sing "Deano, give us a wave", and place bets on which one does it first.

Gerry from Sussex

07-08-2000, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by Eagle on 08-06-2000 11:43 PM
Now come on guys, how often do you believe a newspaper story, it's mere speculation, not sure what paper this was printed in but one paper out of how many, come on!
Also, Clinton said today he wants to stay at Palace and Jordan has said there's no way that he'll sell either Mullins and Morrison, in fact they are apparently in negotiations regarding new contracts, this is just mere paper talk, i can't really see this being true.

Yes, and he also said Sir Steve could stay as long as he wanted to. Talk is cheap - nothing would surprise me anymore!

Dave

07-08-2000, 11:48 AM

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3m??? Bite his hand off

Maidstoned Eagle

07-08-2000, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Gerry from Sussex on 08-07-2000 12:22 AM
Yes, and he also said Sir Steve could stay as long as he wanted to. Talk is cheap - nothing would surprise me anymore!

But didn't Sir Steve say he wanted to go? So he did keep his word there then.

2 Under

07-08-2000, 01:29 PM

I don`t think we`ll get Gordon back, he is still out injured for at least 2-3 months, and we don`t know how he`ll be after such a bad and lengthy injury.
I reckon Kitson would be a good buy for us, we need someone who can hold the ball up, create space and goals for others. As long as Clinton wasnt part of the deal i`d be happy.

lightweight

07-08-2000, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Gerry from Sussex on 08-07-2000 12:22 AM
Yes, and he also said Sir Steve could stay as long as he wanted to. Talk is cheap - nothing would surprise me anymore!

he also said talk is cheap!!!! http://64.65.14.178/ubb/smile.gif

Tony

07-08-2000, 03:01 PM

I was speaking to a bloke who reports on Boro for Radio Cleveland last week and he told me Dean Gordon had broken down in his comeback game.

The Radio Cleve bloke fears Gordon's career may be over. Whether that assessment is correct or not it would be silly to buy a player with a history of injury problems. Ironically, if Dean was fit he'd be a definite Boro starter. They rate him highly and with Ziege goign they're shrot of quality on the left hand side.

Gordon was a good player for us, but long term injury affected his form, especially as he had to try to regain it in a struggling side.

Gazza1

07-08-2000, 03:08 PM

Clinton is also being strongly linked with a move to Coventry. And we all know how much money and how few forwards they have following sales of Whelan and Keane!!!!

arussell

07-08-2000, 03:53 PM

Interesting to hear Clinton say he was "gutted" about Steve going yesterday.

If he did move on - I;m sure that would play a big part in any decision, but I can't see Clinton leaving London somehow for the north.

Ralph

07-08-2000, 03:53 PM

Sorry I dont buy it!

I spoke with Simon Jordan yesterday and he told me that Morrison and Mullins signing new contracts was just a formality!!

He stood and spoke to me for 30 minutes or so!! and I have to say he won me over!!

Guvnor6

07-08-2000, 03:57 PM

WHAT THE FUK DO YOU MEAN DEAN GORDON IS CRAP, HE ISN'T NATUARLLY GIFTED BUT HE WORKED HIS ASS OF 4 US!

WOULD U WANNA TRY AND STOP 1 OF HIS THUNDERBOLTS?

HIS CROSSES ARE ALMOST AS GOOD AS BECKS!!

AS 4 CLINTON- NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

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Ralph

07-08-2000, 03:57 PM

I spoke with Simon Jordan yesterday and he told me that Morrison and Mullins signing a new contract was just a formality!!

He stood and spoke to me for about 30 mins and I have to say he won me over!

He also said that perhaps 2 new players could be coming in on loan before the Blackburn game.

The model of Selhurst in the lounge from the Ron Noades era was still part of his plans, because it was an architects model initially approved by the council but then it all went into legal jargon I did not understand. Sorry!

James Verrinder

07-08-2000, 05:04 PM

I really hope that there isnt any truth to the Kitson story. Also, why all this talk of loan signings on other threads? It doesnt do us any favours in the long run.

Psychokiller

07-08-2000, 05:14 PM

I know it's controversial to say, but I would rather they signed someone at left back who hasn't played for the club before!

Isn't John Beresford available from Southampton?

Laurie

07-08-2000, 06:39 PM

The one certainty is that Clinton will go sometime, whether this season or next, we r not a big enough club to hang on to him.As for Kitson, please Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!

philaire

07-08-2000, 06:53 PM

Agree Laurie, Kitson has never impressed me either. Bit of a wimpish, fairweather footballer

Guvnor6

07-08-2000, 07:22 PM

I'm ANTI- ANTI ADDICK on this one! I think you are on your own here everyone else would be happy to see Deano back!

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Lord Flange

07-08-2000, 11:27 PM

I am with anti addick all the way . I was extremely grateful when boro bought him . it always amazed me how the crowd would scream his name for the free kicks , when IMO he was the most bent footed ******* in the division . Gordon was more of an athlete than a footballer much in the same terms as Bruce Dyer was .All pace and strength, very little balance or skill . I want a left back that can pass the ball in a straight line , consistently .Gorden fell short miserably in this respect. Strangley his long passes or wallops down the left wing were quite accurate, although completely predictable.
thanks but no thanks

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07-08-2000, 11:40 PM

Firstly we only got £900,000.00 for Gordon, and I thought it was bad business when he left. However, I am probably basing my entire affection for him on Sheff Utd away, although I do remember him rocking the bar at the end of one of our best ever moves at home to West Ham once. The problem is that he is damaged goods, and we can't risk him breaking down with injury again.

As for Kitson, well I'm sorry, but I think he's a quality player, and I don't understand firstly why Redknapp hasn't used him more, and secondly why Charlton haven't broken the bank to sign him following his loan spell there last season.

And Clinton Morrison looks to me as though he's going to go the same way as many a player before him, i.e. he ain't going to get much better, and he certainly isn't good enough at the moment. £3m is good money, and would allow us to buy some of the lower league's finest and still leave us with £2.5m in our back pockets.

Flanders

08-08-2000, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by anti-addick on 08-07-2000 12:41 PM
Stop shouting and don't make me laugh. The guy was out of position loads of times because he was so eager to get forward, his crossing was rubbish, most went along the deck to be easily cleared and finally about his shooting - Yes, he scored a couple of pearlers but look at how many went into the upper tier, HUNDREDS.

He is a bad player and I was delighted when we got a whole £1m for the cart horse.

Top Post mate....complete bag of sh!te, his pace got him out of trouble so many times cos he was always too far up the pitch...the problem is since his injury his pace has gone and so has his form.

He also had no idea what the other defenders were doing which led to him getting quite a few bollockins from his team mates....handbags at ten paces with Mr Roberts springs to mind, but dont get me started on that ****!!

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anti-addick

08-08-2000, 02:33 AM

Well Guvnor6, we beg to differ. I took a risk saying how bad Gordon is because I know a lot of fans like him, I expected to get a bit more shot than that! But I honestly believe that I can tell the difference between a good and bad player, and unfortunately Gordon was the latter.

No disrespect to King Steve but he was typically Coppell - a bullish athelete before skillful footballer. That is fine in the Nationwide but ultimately won't cut the mustard in the Premiership. This showed because he was exposed time and time again. I remember one thing that really made me chuckle, v Southampton on Boxing Day (the Zohar match). He (Gordon) clattered Le Tissier and got the ball off him for once. A guy near me said "Yeah, he really showed you Le Tissier" and it summed up the thinking of many ultra biased fans and clouding of judgment because Le Tissier is 100 times the player the Gordon is, that is a fact.

Guvnor6, take off your rose tinted specs mate, as my learned colleagues also realise - he is sh ite.

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Small number

08-08-2000, 02:48 AM

I have 2 disagree anti, Le tiss is rubbish, and I always rated Dean Gordon. he was a hard tackler, had the a superb shot and pass and a really massive head!!!.. okay the last 1 doesn't help.

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le piddler

08-08-2000, 03:33 AM

Dean Gordon is complete & utter pants & no way should we sign him!!!
Go for Phelan or Powell from Oxford, NOT Gordon!

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anti-addick

08-08-2000, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by Guvnor6 on 08-07-2000 11:57 AM
WHAT THE FUK DO YOU MEAN DEAN GORDON IS CRAP, HE ISN'T NATUARLLY GIFTED BUT HE WORKED HIS ASS OF 4 US!

WOULD U WANNA TRY AND STOP 1 OF HIS THUNDERBOLTS?

HIS CROSSES ARE ALMOST AS GOOD AS BECKS!!

AS 4 CLINTON- NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Stop shouting and don't make me laugh. The guy was out of position loads of times because he was so eager to get forward, his crossing was rubbish, most went along the deck to be easily cleared and finally about his shooting - Yes, he scored a couple of pearlers but look at how many went into the upper tier, HUNDREDS.

He is a bad player and I was delighted when we got a whole £1m for the cart horse.

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James Simmo

08-08-2000, 04:58 AM

Deano would be a good buy if he can prove he is OK and over his injuries.

Clinton I cant see going anywhere at the moment BUT lets remember that we support Palace and anything is possible !

Gerry from Sussex

08-08-2000, 07:58 PM

I think some of this is more than unfair. Sounds like some people are judging Gordon only by what he was like in his last season here. By then he had totally lost confidence and, yep, he was pretty bad. I remember saying on Egoals at the time that a switch to another club was the only answer (for him and for us) because there was mo way he was going to get on a roll again if he'd stayed.

Sure enough he really sparkled after he left and won rave revues in the Premiership backed up by very impressive Opitima stats.

I'm not saying he should come back as there are other less risky (amd cheaper) options. But, I do think he should get a fair crack of the whip re his contribution as a whole. (For me, his 92nd minute equaliser against Derby when we nearly went up was one of the highlights of the last few years by the way).

PS. I thought this thread was supposed to be about Clinton and Derby in any case. I hear they have refused to send Sturridge on loan to B'ham so doesn't sound like they are expecting a new striker to join any time soon. Anyway, if Jordon let Sir Steve AND Morrison go in his first month in charge there really would be a riot!!

Harry Holmesdale

08-08-2000, 08:30 PM

is Morrison really that good?

Dillenger

08-08-2000, 08:34 PM

Yes.

Guvnor6

08-08-2000, 08:58 PM

I'm anti anti still you may have won page 3 but I still win the thread!

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anti-addick

08-08-2000, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by Small number on 08-07-2000 10:48 PM
I have 2 disagree anti, Le tiss is rubbish, and I always rated Dean Gordon.

Maybe Guvnor6 but look who agrees with you (above). small number is well known for being a terrible judge of a player, I mean, ANYONE who thinks Dean Gordon is good player and thinks Matt Le Tissier is "rubbish" should really be ignored for the rest of their life.

You make me roll up with laughter small number. I remember when you started that thread last Christmas complaining about Steve Coppells bad tactics after losing away to Clownton. Never mind the fact that we had to put out our weakest side of the season. He saved us from the drop didn't he? You'll be getting me with your 'firm' now. ha ha ha!

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Viking

08-08-2000, 10:27 PM

Le tiss is great. I come to remember a rumour that linked him to us last season. I lived high on that for some time. I think he would be a perfect signing for us.

Small number

08-08-2000, 10:31 PM

As I think most people realise the reason we stayed up was not because of good tactics by Coppell but because of the good team spirit he had created and the support giving by us. The match V Blackburn was pure emotion. Le tiss is overwieght, lazy and greedy. Also I have never said I'm going to 'get you with my firm' If I wanted to 'get you' I would do it all by myself.

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anti-addick

10-08-2000, 12:29 AM

"Le tiss is overwieght, lazy and greedy."

You believe the papers sn, 3 years ago he wasn't which is when I was refering to him. He was ending his career then but in his prime he was WORLD CLASS, Gordon doesn't get close.
I remember people calling Waddle lazy just because he played with an untucked shirt, a bit like Ginola - both players are (were) brilliant.

"Also I have never said I'm going to 'get you with my firm' If I wanted to 'get you' I would do it all by myself."

HA HA HA HA HA, Block B, Row 29 seat 26. I've mentioned this before but i've yet to see your face kiddywink.

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