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Stephenson Soundbyter

12-07-2000, 12:42 AM

Does anyone know the situation with the out of contract players?

With the signing of two midfielders does this mean Fullarton is surplus to requirements?

Having spoken to Fullarton many times in the past I am certain that he wants to stay at Palace and if a decent deal was offered he would sign without thinking twice. I did hear that he was in talks with a couple of other clubs, similar to Austin, and yet Coppell has gone to China without sorting the contracts out.

Have we signed the new guys to replace a player dying to stay at the club without trying to keep him?

James Varcoe

12-07-2000, 01:59 AM

SS, nice guy or not can we really afford to keep a player whose fitness record makes Simon Rodger look like an ever present

Stephenson Soundbyter

12-07-2000, 02:02 AM

True James

But did he not come back too early to help out our severely depleted team, and get hurt again?

GreatGonzo

12-07-2000, 02:58 AM

SS, I could be wrong here but as far as i know ALL 4 out of contract players have been offered new deals.

Coppell has gone out to China to assess the fringe members of the squad as for many reasons these are the players out there. He is also going to try to get a new 1st team coach while there, 2 very important tasks.

Simon Jordan is holding the personal talks with the 2 arsenal players so i assume any problems our 4 players have with the offers given can be taken up with him.

Eagle

12-07-2000, 03:06 AM

You are right Gonzo.
As far as i'm aware all out-of-contract players were offered new contracts by Coppell before he left for China and they were told to think about them over the time he was in China whilst training with the reserves to keep up there fitness.
I understand Austin is set to accept Palace's offer and would think the others would follow suit aswell
I think this is the reason Jordan didn't travel to China in the end so that he could arrange to meet the players to sort out personal terms and also to negotiate with the new players coming into the club, i understand he has contacted Steve regarding this and this is how it will go untill Steve returns.

Stephenson Soundbyter

12-07-2000, 03:08 AM

Accepted Gonzo

BUT when you have players of quality, (Yes some will disagree), surely you want to keep them?

If a player such as Fullarton, who I know loves the club and wants to stay, is unsure of his future then we need to worry.

Just a small point but are you happy that Jordan, with no football experience, is conducting transfer and contract negotiations?
Am I wrong but have we not been here before?

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tomario

12-07-2000, 05:38 AM

The impression I get about Jordan is that he isn't as stupid as Goldberg, and that Coppell has been involved with sorting out the cxontracts as well.

Neil the Eagle

12-07-2000, 02:02 PM

I'll also nail my colours to the mast as a Fullarton fan here, but I'm not too concerned at the moment.

From the outside, it seems to have a lot of parallels with the Rodger situation last year and that was satisfactorily resolved when the team returned from China. I'm optimistic that a few days away will not prove disasterous in this case.

Dave

12-07-2000, 03:52 PM

Jordan is handling the situation well IMHO.

I do not think that it is unreasonable for a chairman to renegotiate a contract from 4.5k a week to 2k a week for an out of contract player for example. This is particualrily true if there has been zip intrest in said player from other clubs.

Lets remember that the original contracts where negotiated by Vegtables and where merely endorsed and partly paid for by the former chairman. One of the reasons that we got into the mess we did before is that we gave average players long lucrative contracts that would only be sustainable in the premiership. We are not a premiership side and it follows that we can not afford to pay top level salaries (or even middle range for that matter).

It strikes me that Jordan is spending his money frugaly rather than doing his best to piss it all away in six months. If the players feel that they can get a better salary elsewhere then we should let them go- however no one else wants them.

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Soundbyter- your boy took one hell of a beating

Gooders

12-07-2000, 05:25 PM

Agree 100% Dave.

Let the big-time Charlies fleece the likes of Bradford, Charlton and Man City. We've been there, done that, got the t-shirt!

The market worth of Linighan, Fullarton and Austin is not that great. Pay them what they deserve and don't be held to ransom I say.

I would like them all to stay but if they can get more money elsewhere, good luck to them.

Men At Work

12-07-2000, 05:45 PM

If Jordan is really sensible he'll negotiate an incentive based contract with a minumim wage and the rest made up from a percentage of the gate receipts and television money. In this way we never pay out more than we earn.

GreatGonzo

12-07-2000, 05:51 PM

IMHO the best way to run a football club (based on my 21 years of life) is to allocate parts of income to expenditure. For example the biggest income is gates and season tickets and the biggest expense is wages so match the 2 together. Lets say we make £3m in combined gatres this season that would allow players wages totalling about £60,000 per week. Not much but a good business guideline to follow if you want to stay in business!