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Jon Thompson
10-08-2000, 02:01 PM
Any truth that we've signed Jamie Pollock permanently and another unamed player on a years loan?
Just something I heard, I'm not saying we have.
Pollock !
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! NOOOO ! NO !
The word carthorse springs to mind.
Mind you, if it is true then at least Smith will have £2,999,999 and 95p left from his £3m budget.
Ian of Chatham
10-08-2000, 02:21 PM
All that will be gone by the time he pays Foster his wages if he's still here.
Originally posted by Ian of Chatham on 08-10-2000 10:21 AM
All that will be gone by the time he pays Foster his wages if he's still here.
...talking of carthorses.
northernsouler
10-08-2000, 02:29 PM
and here he is http://www.uit.no/mancity/pictures/pollock.jpg
James Varcoe
10-08-2000, 02:34 PM
His greatest claim to fame was being voted Port Vale (I think) player of the year 3 seasons back for scoring an own goal for Man City which relegated City and kept Vale up!!
[This message has been edited by James Varcoe (edited 10 August 2000).]
Spread-Eagle
10-08-2000, 03:00 PM
Hope its true, we've been lacking a bit of fight in midfield for some time. Another player who knows how to perform in this division (promoted with Boro and City). Would allow Mullins a chance to make things happen by taking away some of his defensive duties.
Zico Murphy
10-08-2000, 03:17 PM
Who ate all the pies?
Jamie 'lardarse' Pollock http://64.65.14.178/ubb/frown.gif
Marco van Palace
10-08-2000, 03:23 PM
Pollock, NOOOOO! Hope that's only gossip...
No Pollock, no!
No
NO
Viking
10-08-2000, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by James Varcoe on 08-10-2000 10:34 AM
His greatest claim to fame was being voted Port Vale (I think) player of the year 3 seasons back for scoring an own goal for Man City which relegated City and kept Vale up!!
[This message has been edited by James Varcoe (edited 10 August 2000).]
I didn“t know that. So Vale has a sense of humor. It“s a great story ha,ha.
James Verrinder
10-08-2000, 05:01 PM
Is Scott Oakes the guy who scored a cracking goal for Luton a few years back and whose old man was in Shawaddywoddy?(way before my time so not sure of the spelling)
Sandy of Cornwall
10-08-2000, 05:09 PM
Yes he is.
Oisin
10-08-2000, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by James Varcoe on 08-10-2000 10:34 AM
His greatest claim to fame was being voted Port Vale (I think) player of the year 3 seasons back for scoring an own goal for Man City which relegated City and kept Vale up!!
For a similar reason when Time magazine held there man of the century campaign QPR fans campainged for Pollock.
Psychokiller
10-08-2000, 05:11 PM
Deja vu!
All we need now is a 29 year old crap lower division striker and a 39 year old former England veteran and we're back to 94!
Chris Waddle and Phil Stant maybe?
Ian B
10-08-2000, 05:11 PM
Football365 is reporting that Joe Royle has confirmed that Pollock is discussing personal terms with us today.
arussell
10-08-2000, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by James Verrinder on 08-10-2000 01:01 PM
Is Scott Oakes the guy who scored a cracking goal for Luton a few years back and whose old man was in Shawaddywoddy?(way before my time so not sure of the spelling)
Yup - and he *used* to be a half decent player. I haven't seen him in a while but whilst I have reservations about Pollock - Oakes could turn out to be a very good signing.
Two more midfielders ! - Alan we NEED ANOTHER COUPLE OF STRIKERS MATEY !!!
Eagle
10-08-2000, 05:33 PM
Has anybody thpought about the fact does Ruddock and Zhiyi in defence and Pollock in midfield scare the hell out of you!!!
I'm sure it will for the opposition, they dare not come near our penalty area!
He could be a good buy but time will tell.
James Verrinder
10-08-2000, 05:38 PM
So this means that AS has changed his mind about what he was saying at the open day about giving everyone a chance then.
Pollock is only 24? He's been around for years I thought.
Dai the Swansea Eagle
10-08-2000, 05:38 PM
Pollock will mean an end to the lack of bite in midfield which was a problem for us last year. We certainly lacked a nasty ******* on the pitch last season.
1fda
What next, Brett Angel up front ?
Strathclyde Eagle
10-08-2000, 05:47 PM
A complete and utter donkey, Smith's old "wisdom" in the transfer market is beginning to show once again.
Besides Pollock being a donkey, carthorse, fatboy, waste of (a great deal of) space and numerous other insults hasn't he always played for northern clubs? Who says he'll settle?
Bad, bad move. I hope we offer him £20 a week and he runs a mile (downhill, obviously).
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Neil, yes, another one!
10-08-2000, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by arussell on 08-10-2000 01:30 PM
Two more midfielders ! - Alan we NEED ANOTHER COUPLE OF STRIKERS MATEY !!!
I agree here - strikers are rarer than left backs - BUT midfielders aren't the wrong type of players to be buying. Most of the midfielders we have are perhaps better in defence - Fan, Mullins - and wasn't he playing Austin in midfield, and Fullarton in defence (both wrong decisions), on Saturday at Wycombe?
arussell
10-08-2000, 06:00 PM
Austin did indeed play in midfield on Saturday - and I for one can't understand why ??
I cannot for the life of me ever fathom out manager's who insist on playing players out of position (when they can't play there) just to accomdate them in the team. Don't play Dean in midfield for the sake of it - either play him at the back or drop him !
We DESPERATELY need two strikers in my book -McKenzie simply IS NOT good enough as first choice which leaves Clinton and Forssell with virtually no backup apart from the young lads. We should be in the market now for a goalscorer - and should go for someone like Neil Shipperley or Andy Booth, both affordable and able to play off a more mobile striker with different attributes (IE: Morrison).
James Verrinder
10-08-2000, 06:05 PM
[quote]Originally posted by arussell on 08-10-2000 01:30 PM
Yup - and he *used* to be a half decent player. I haven't seen him in a while but whilst I have reservations about Pollock - Oakes could turn out to be a very good signing.
What is he? I seem to remember him playing as a winger or just behind the main striker.
James Verrinder
10-08-2000, 06:08 PM
From CPFRIS..
NEW LOAN LEFT BACK FOR PALACE
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Palace have signed CRAIG HARRISON, a 22-year-old left-back, on a
month's loan from Middlesbrough.
HARRISON'S PROFILE
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England's perennial left-back dilemma is reflected at clubs up and
down the country, but here at the Riverside we may have found the
solution in Craig Harrison, injuries permitting.
While ten years ago speed and crossing were assets demanded only of
strikers and attacking midfielders, they are now essential elements
in the brief for wide defenders - and both come naturally to Craig.
A promising start in 97/98 saw the twenty-year-old feature in
almost half the Promotion-winning season's matches, sign a four and
a half year contract and be voted Young Player Of the Year.
Since then he has sadly made more appearances in hospital than at
the Riverside, including a near fatal burst appendix last summer
which left him high and dry for what felt like forever.
But Craig is definitely one to watch and is tipped to don an
England shirt in the future.
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and......
News from Manchester :
MIDFIELDER SET TO HEAD SOUTH
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MANCHESTER CITY HAVE AGREED a 600,000 fee with First Division
Crystal Palace for midfielder Jamie Pollock. Jamie Pollock is set
to move to London and is spending the day in the capital talking
to Crystal Palace now that the two clubs have agreed a fee for the
player.
The twenty four year old has to decide, says Joe Royle, if he wants
to move his family to London, now that his chances of claiming a
regular slot in the engine room at City have diminished.
"There is still a lot to be done in the deal. Jamie has to be
convinced about moving himself and his family to London. He is
talking to Crystal Palace this morning about an initial 600,000
deal which could rise to 700,000."
The former Blues skipper, who arrived at Maine Road in March 1998
in a 1m move from Bolton Wanderers, has played in City's pre
season games and, believes Joe, is in great shape.
"Jamie is fitter and in better mind than ever but the competition
is hot in midfield. We have seen with the arrival of Alfie
Haaland, who hasn't even played there, and the arrival too of
Shaun Wright-Phillips that we are not short of players in that
area." "There is a deal between City and Crystal Palace and it is
now down to personal terms."
Oh good,another loan signing!!!!!!
arussell
10-08-2000, 06:21 PM
We do love our loans right now - seems that we can't make our mind up ! - are we going for a big a squad as Birmingham !?
Pollock is a central midfielder - sometimes
plays as a winger as well.
Oakes is more central attacking midfield.
RUSSELL
10-08-2000, 06:44 PM
Does anyone know how many loan sinings we're allowed to make in a season?, I've asked this before but had no answers. Surely we must be close to the limit (if there is one).
James Verrinder
10-08-2000, 06:50 PM
I thought it was 2. It was last season anyway but we're on three now so I cant work that one out. Maybe long term deals like Forsell dont count?
Oxted Eagle
10-08-2000, 06:54 PM
You are allowed 3 loan signings as far as I'm aware. I think only two can play at any one time though....not sure Forssell will fall into that category though as we have him all season.
Last season we had Phelan, Cole & Forssell.
Al From Bromley
10-08-2000, 07:35 PM
It saddens me that so many are slagging Pollock without giving him a chance. yes, we know some of Smith's signings didnt work out, but can't we judge him a few months down the line when we've seen the new squad he is gathering in action for a while?
What kind of reception is the poor bloke gonna get if you all think he's sh*t?
PS - He's a latter day Ian Dowie. You gotta have one ugly in a squad haven#t you?
1f4f
Laurie
10-08-2000, 07:44 PM
cott Oakes could be a reasonable signing, although again a lightweight midfielder. But lardball Pollock, pleeeeeese nooooo!!!!!!
I am praying he is offered crap terms and turns us down. Smith seems hell bent on beating his superb P signings last time around (Patterson, Pitcher,Preece) and now another crap Pollock.
Pollock's at Selhurst now. Price of between £600,000 and £700,000 has been agreed but there's a bit of bother over agent's fees...
Fester
10-08-2000, 08:18 PM
Have to agree with Al. Give the bloke a chance if he does sign. Yes he has been considered slightly portly by some, but I personally love the idea of our midfield containing someone with some bite.
wedgetail
10-08-2000, 08:27 PM
I don't think that Smithy took a long time to notice that our midfield was lacking in muscle. Pollock will allow Mullins, Thompson Grey, Evans, Black Jolly and all the others get on with the football.
They are quite a few players who fit the "good in the First, not good enough in the Prem" and Pollock probably fits that bill. Other past "greats" include Bruce Dyer and Shipperley.
Talking of ugly, who was worse Hopkin or Dowie?
Viking
10-08-2000, 08:33 PM
Dowie, but Hopkin had the worst dialect. No offence David, i miss you as h*ll.
rashid
10-08-2000, 09:26 PM
Pollock. Noooooo... From what I've seen rhyming slang definitely comes to mind. Anyway isn't he really one of the singers out of Beautiful South, well you never see them in the same place. Let's hope he becomes a Palace hero. I thought he was either injured or kept getting sent off last year- what will be the odds of seeing Fan, Razor and Pollock all in the same lineup after the pre season group photo?
BIG LETTER!
10-08-2000, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by AJ on 08-10-2000 04:27 PM
They are quite a few players who fit the "good in the First, not good enough in the Prem" and Pollock probably fits that bill. Other past "greats" include Bruce Dyer and Shipperley.
Talking of ugly, who was worse Hopkin or Dowie?
To say Shipps wasn't good enough for the premiership is slightly harsh. Alright, he was inconsistent for us, as with his other prem clubs, but at times he showed true quality.
Jolly Norwegian
10-08-2000, 09:50 PM
I've never really rated Pollock, as he's always been looking suspiciously much like a cow... but Palace are safe, there's alot of new people at the club and I truely believe that we should give the newboys, both players and staff, a chance to prove themselves before we slag them off!
I think all this transfer activity and speculation is kinda fun, it's been so long without it!
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Jason
10-08-2000, 09:51 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but for once I think that Smithy has got it just right. Pollock is both experienced (300 odd first team games !) and relatively young (24 ? ? ?). More to the point, he has proven time and time again that he is a good player at this level. OK, he isn't a world beater, but at 600K seems like good value and just the sought of player we need at the mo !
Guvnor6
10-08-2000, 09:52 PM
According to USM 98 its five in/out or a combination, theres always the rule when u run out of goalies u can get one (Jimmy GlASS)
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Ok he may have his limitations. But Pollock is a commited player who always seems to give 100% wherever he plays. We need people who are awkward to play against and who get stuck in. Then we might stop shipping goals and be able to look a bit positiviely to the future. Lets get behind him anyway.
One slightly unrelated point. I'm a little concerned with the number of loan signings we have made. I think that bringing in one player, perhaps, on loan to inhance your squad is a good idea. Remember Paul Stewart last time Smith was in charge, he gave us that little bit extra when cracks where beginning to form in our promotion challenge? But when several key players are loan signings I worry about how commited they will be, when deep down their minds are focused on another club elsewhere. Also how would we feel if we built a really good squad which was capable of winning promotion, only to see it break up as players returned to their proper clubs?
Small number
10-08-2000, 10:13 PM
I think Pollock is a good signing for this division he is a ball winner which is wot we need to give our other 'more skillfull' midfielders a chance. I also don't like loan signings as the team will never settle down.
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Forever Stripes
10-08-2000, 11:24 PM
I think (and hope) Pollock will be a good buy.
People are quick to put him down but he's young and experienced. Lets face it if we blew our whole £3m budget on one player in todays greatly inflated transfer market we could still buy total and utter cr*p. For the money I believe its a good move. Infact the transfer news has perked me up today. Loan deals are not ideal but I believe the guy from Middlesborough (already forgotten his name) will be purchased if he shapes up.
rashid
10-08-2000, 11:56 PM
has anyone figured out the size of our squad, after today's news? I recall the beginning of Venables' brief reign when I believe we got up to something ludicrous like 40 plus. result was the players never seemed to know how with whom they were meant to be playing. The 0-3 at Ipswich was a classic example. Saturday has all the indicators of a disaster, with potentially over half the likely team unknown to each other. how about names printed on the front of their shirts as well?
1f97
2 Under
11-08-2000, 01:47 AM
I too think Pollock is a good signing. It is so obvious that our midfield is lightweight - most people keep making the point. Then when we go out and sign (has he come yet) a player like Pollock with bags of experience in this division people just moan. To the people who keep moaning, who do you expect us to sign - Roy Keane?? We have just come out of administration! Also people made the point that he is a first division player, not a Premier League player. Well we`re not in the Premier League. And we need a fighting, strong midfielder , otherwise you get murdered in this division. I know ther are both pretty useless, but we always played better last season when Foster or Fullarton played. Anyway give the bloke a chance - i`ve also heard that he has sorted out his fitness levels as well. Plus we`re going to have far more steel this season with people like Pollock and Ruddock, so hopefully no more giving 2 or 3 goal leads away!
Neil MacQueen
11-08-2000, 04:01 AM
I rate Pollock, he's quite a grafter me thinks.
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Neil MacQueen
11-08-2000, 04:02 AM
And please say the years loan player is Ashley Cole!!!!!!!!
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La Bombonera
11-08-2000, 04:08 AM
Apparently the other is left back Craig Harrison from Middlesborough.
Apparently not featuring in Bryan Robson's plans to put 'Borough on the map......snigger, snigger
Oxted Eagle
11-08-2000, 04:13 AM
I agree with Neil here - Pollock would be a good signing for us - someone that wears his heart on his sleeve, gets stuck in and is also a good passer of the ball.
Neil, yes, another one!
11-08-2000, 04:21 AM
can someone confirm where these rumours originate... is there any fact here?
He fell out the ugly tree didn't he ?
Fester
11-08-2000, 04:28 AM
Just spoken to a Man City fan here who says that Pollock is talking to Palace today attempting to agree personal terms on a £600k deal.
Fester
11-08-2000, 04:31 AM
Check out http://mcfc.co.uk/00_01/news/000810.htm
Now this is getting scary...
[This message has been edited by Ash (edited 10 August 2000).]
Originally posted by Fester on 08-10-2000 12:31 PM
Check out http://mcfc.co.uk/00_01/news/000810.htm
..can't access. Can someone kindly copy in here please ?
Marco van Palace
11-08-2000, 04:42 AM
600K for Pollock, no! Waste of money...
Neil, yes, another one!
11-08-2000, 04:47 AM
MIDFIELDER SET TO HEAD SOUTH
CITY HAVE AGREED a £600,000 fee with First Division Crystal Palace for midfielder Jamie Pollock.
Jamie Pollock is set to move to London and is spending the day in the capital talking to Crystal Palace now that the two clubs have agreed a fee for the player.
The twenty four year old has to decide, says Joe Royle, if he wants to move his family to London, now that his chances of claiming a regular slot in the engine room at City have diminished.
"There is still a lot to be done in the deal. Jamie has to be convinced about moving himself and his family to London. He is talking to Crystal Palace this morning about an initial £600,000 deal which could rise to £700,000."
The former Blues skipper, who arrived at Maine Road in March 1998 in a £1m move from Bolton Wanderers, has played in City's pre season games and, believes Joe, is in great shape.
"Jamie is fitter and in better mind than ever but the competition is hot in midfield. We have seen with the arrival of Alfie Haaland, who hasn't even played there, and the arrival too of Shaun Wright-Phillips that we are not short of players in that area."
"There is a deal between City and Crystal Palace and it is now down to personal terms."
I suppose to be fair to him, he's the sort of player a manager will buy to get out of division one. In my opinion he'll help us get out of division one alright...
Anyone remember him playing for 'Boro against us when we won the 1st div championship ? It was obvious that Smith had told Southgate to wind him up. A couple of kicks, he retaliated, got booked, and that's him out the game really, he doesn't offer a lot more than a crunching tackle does he (a la Pitcher) ?
Blarm
11-08-2000, 04:52 AM
Try this link
http://www.mcfc.co.uk/00_01/news/000810.htm
Neil, yes, another one!
11-08-2000, 04:52 AM
SMITH MOVES FOR POLLOCK
From TeamTalk
Boss Alan Smith is poised to spend some of the transfer kitty by snapping up Manchester City midfielder Jamie Pollock.
Palace have tabled a bid of £600,000 which has been accepted by the Premiership side.
The former Bolton and Middlesbrough midfielder is out of favour at Maine Road and is currently holding talks with Palace.
Pollock would join Scott Oakes in the middle of the park, who has moved to Selhurst Park on trial from Sheffield Wednesday.
WHEN DID SCOTT OAKES ARRIVE...???!!!
Kevin T
11-08-2000, 04:56 AM
Actually his greatest claim to fame was being voted Man Of The Millennium, pushing Jesus Christ into second place on a French website, after it was bombarded by QPR fans having a laugh after he scored an own goal for them and sent City down.
brighton_eagle
11-08-2000, 01:48 PM
Unfortunately Rashid, our team that did know each other didn't do too well pre season!!
1a6d
rashid
11-08-2000, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by brighton_eagle on 08-11-2000 09:48 AM
Unfortunately Rashid, our team that did know each other didn't do too well pre season!!
good point. sad but true.
Palace Don
11-08-2000, 02:05 PM
My Boro Supporting pal sent me this on the two new lads.
From the Boro Web Site
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Can't find a player profile, but this is from the Boro site:
CRAIG Harrison has a date with the Palace, though the young Gateshead born
defender is not expecting to see HRH during his stay in the Capital. The 22
year old, who was on death's door around this time last year, will today
join Crystal Palace on loan for a month and is expected to make his debut
for the Eagles at Blackburn on Saturday.
The fact that Harrison is playing at all is down to the expertise of
surgeons at Dryburn Hospital in Durham. The left-back was taken ill last
summer, initial diagnosis from a GP failed to spot the severity of his
condition and he was rushed into hospital where he underwent an emergency
stomach operation, one which left him with an 18 inch scar, but his life.
He was unable to walk for several weeks afterwards and a return to training
was some months away. Light work progressed under expert medical guidance
and the dedication of Boro's backroom staff at Hurworth.
Eventually, towards the end of last season, Harrison returned to action when
playing for Boro's reserves and he has continued to build up his strength
through the summer, his break understandably shorter than the other players.
After playing in a couple of pre-season friendlies, Harrison was told of the
interest in him from new Palace Manager Alan Smith and this afternoon all
paperwork is due to be completed with Ewood Park just three short days away.
The temporary move to south London for Harrison is not with a view to making
permanent the shift south.
And Jamie Bollock as well?!? I played against him when we were both 17. I
don't rate him, personally, but you never know. Bit of a clogger.
James Verrinder
11-08-2000, 03:31 PM
So have we definately got Pollock? What were th problems with agent fees and personal terms?
Fester
11-08-2000, 05:01 PM
Agree totally LW...I think us CP fans had become too used to being resigned about the goings on at the club and not voicing our opinions and now that things are happening, it's a good excuse to get the moaning vocal cords (or typing fingers) going again.
Still, a nice 4-1 win a la Man City tomorrow might shut a few up.......
I believe in miracles....
Am I right in thinking that for a player to be eligable to play on Saturday, he must sign by noon on Friday ?
Neil, yes, another one!
11-08-2000, 05:49 PM
... i think it might even be as late as 5pm. But don't know for sure.
Samo*
11-08-2000, 05:51 PM
We palace and we love it, lets get behind the boys and stop slagin em off
STELLA SURLEY IS THE FINEST
Sandy of Cornwall
11-08-2000, 05:52 PM
I thought it was Thursday.
Samo*
11-08-2000, 05:53 PM
sorry to jump in there!
mikestock
11-08-2000, 11:00 PM
12 noon friday is the deadline and pollock made it with 3 mins to spare!!
I think he'll be adecent siging provided he settles in the south.
i was under the impression harrisons move was with the view to a permanent move but it wouldn't be the first time i'm wrong
lightweight
12-08-2000, 04:47 AM
there have been one or two comments about the size of our squad - this is the same club that were worrying that we might not have enough fit players for the games last season!! - Our last signing (excluding loans) prior to Black and Gray was Gordan Petric! - and we lost a fair few since then. I don't think we're aiming for a huge squad - just getting back on a parity with all the other teams!
and if I recall - we said we needed a left back, a striker, a keeper as priority (which we've got) and a central defender and gritty midfielder (which we've also got) so what's the problem!!! (I know some are on loan - but that still counts)
I know, you'll never keep everyone happy - but they'll all be playing in rednblue so they're ours!
Palace Don
12-08-2000, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by lightweight on 08-11-2000 12:47 PM
and if I recall - we said we needed a left back, a striker, a keeper as priority (which we've got) and a central defender and gritty midfielder (which we've also got) so what's the problem!!! (I know some are on loan - but that still counts)
LW, good shout, but the keeper is only a loan move isn't he?
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