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Swanny32 18-12-2014 12:33 PM

Assassins Creed Series
 
Quick question for anyone who knows....

I've played AC1, 2 and Brotherhood, I meant to continue playing them all but have massively fallen behind, still need to play Revelations, 3, Black Flag, Rogue and Unity....

Do I really need to have played all of them in order to play the newer ones on Xbox One, i.e. for the story line.

Hambo 18-12-2014 01:38 PM

Both Black Flag and Unity are separate, but linked, storylines.

Shame you missed revelations to end Desmond's storyline but in all honesty you can just read the wikipedia entries on plot to satisfy your curiosity and won't have missed anything wortwhile in terms of AC3.

I found Black Flag to be excellent. Unity is a bit of a disappointment as things stand, but not played too much of it due to COD addiction problems.

Rogue has passed me by due to it being on the previous gen. From reviews I'm not too fussed.

I'm a little frustrated with the series in general - the Desmond storyline was superb, but they are really struggling to create the same level of intrigue in the newer games IMO.

Joe85 18-12-2014 01:53 PM

Lost interest after AC2. Was gripped by Ezio's storyline and thought the twist at the end was cracking. Tried Revelations thought it was turgid and haven't been back since.

Swanny32 18-12-2014 05:28 PM

Might just swipe Black Flag from my brother and pick the series up from there then. Not sure if I can be bothered to play through all the others that I have missed, my motivation for last gen games has now dwindled completely.

TopKnot 18-12-2014 11:22 PM

Play black flag, it's super fun. The last AC game I played before that was AC2 and I didn't miss anything in the storyline. As long as you are familiar with the basics (assassins v Templars, you are a descendant of an assassin who replays genetic memories via a VR machine etc) then you're good to go. The characters are all different so it can be standalone.

Latvian Eagle 19-12-2014 11:04 AM

Loved AC2, also enjoyed Brotherhood.

Didn't play Revelations but then found AC3 terrible. There is a storyline in there but not sure you really need to play every game to get the jist of what is going on etc.

I have asked for Unity for Xmas so looking forward to it, although heard mixed reviews so far.

Adlerhorst 19-12-2014 11:49 AM

I backed off the franchise after playing AC3. AC2 and Brotherhood appear to be the zenith. I had high hopes for Unity but the reviews are not good.

I am beginning to think they are simply rolling out titles too quickly. Ubisoft have a policy of a release a fiscal year, and each title has a two year development.

This seems to work when not much is changing, but seems to fall down when there is significant change. So take AC to AC2 . Significant change and only standard two year development but triple the number of people working on it that AC did. Brotherhood and Revelations were not exactly massive differences, and revelations was only really let down by the story.

But the real issue appeared to be between Revelations and AC3. There was a two and a half year development run which was the longest yet but it appears to not be enough. You've moved away from cities and are into a larger world that needed a lot more things to do. The tree running thing for me didn't work, the hunting was dull and the ships thing was dull and didn't really fit in with the wider story. the whole thing struck me as rushed.

And now we have two releases this year, Rogue and Unity. And Unity is moving back to what they are good at but it is getting panned. Seems they are bleeding the franchise rather than making really good games. It get financially (i.e. total franchise sales will be pretty close to the GTA franchise and in lots less time) it but it is a shame.

bunter 19-12-2014 12:22 PM

I tried getting into this with AC1 a few months ago. Really wanted to like it as I love the fact they have lovingly recreated the cities etc. But I dunno something just didnt click with me. might have to give it another go but upgrading to a ps4 next week so might just have to give the series a miss altogether.

TopKnot 19-12-2014 12:39 PM

AC1 is fairly boring and repetitive though to be fair - AC2 is ten times better.

bunter 19-12-2014 01:00 PM

Might have to just push through it I guess! or skip to blag flag which is the one that really interests me!

Latvian Eagle 19-12-2014 01:17 PM

Assassins Creed 2 of all the games if you only ever played one game is the one I would say you HAVE to play.

ChaceTheAce 19-12-2014 01:26 PM

Next years AC is set in Victorian London. Nice.

Swanny32 19-12-2014 03:58 PM

Apparently after next years one in London they're going to bring it up to date and have a modern storyline with modern surroundings etc

Latvian Eagle 20-12-2014 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Swanny32 (Post 12122119)
Apparently after next years one in London they're going to bring it up to date and have a modern storyline with modern surroundings etc

Not sure if that interests me. The thing I loved about the Assassins Creed 2 set of games was the historical setting and characters which to me fit into the Story of Assassins vs Templars. Modern day story I don't think the series can match up to "similar" games.

But we shall see how it goes... I cannot wait for Unity as the French Revolution etc should be a good setting. The American storyline was just soooooooo dull. :D

Latvian Eagle 26-12-2014 11:01 AM

Played about 25 minutes of Unity and loving it already. Love the scene, the characters and the game play already. AC3, talk about over complicating a winning formula, not Ubisofts finest hour that one I am afraid. I never played Black Flag, and although it was apparently a good game I am kind of glad I took a year off otherwise I might not have been quite as excited for ACU. :p

eagle101 26-12-2014 08:28 PM

I loved the earlier ACs, I think I'm going to wait for Victory next year. Victorian London has been the setting I've wanted since the Ezio days.

Latvian Eagle 01-01-2015 04:26 PM

Liking Unity... It is a bit clunky though and I often find Arno climbing up a random building or something when I don't want him to at times, but that can be ironed out hopefully.

Definitely a massive improvement on AC3 which was just an absolute mess of a game. In this one I acrually enjoy sneaking around, which just seemed laboured and too much effort.

Also loving the different bits of uniforms etc in Unity. Got Arno dressed up in a nice Green Napoleon outfit thus far.

Latvian Eagle 03-11-2015 04:25 AM

Syndicate now out but decided to try and get through Unity after stalling early on. I think part of the problem is I was trying to play it too much like ACII. And now I have learnt a few tricks I am really enjoying it.

I still find it too easy to get spotted by guards though, and I hate the fact they can shoot at you now. It's almost impossible to attack back when you are being shot at, so often you just gotta run.

PauLo 04-11-2015 02:33 PM

I'm making my way through Black Flag at the moment. Probably one of my favourites so far due to it's locations and the characters. I'm doing loads of the side missions, which I very rarely do. Probably get Rogue for Christmas and hopefully save up for a PS4 for after Christmas and get the next gen games too.

Latvian Eagle 04-11-2015 03:36 PM

I do really enjoy Unity, but it's glitched as **** which is the biggest problem with it. So annoying when trying to run away from guards and run up a wall I don't want to. Also I have noticed a few times I knock a guard over in a fight and my instant instinct is to kill and maime him on the floor, but no matter how many times I hit stab Arno stands there and allows him to get up and hit him. So infuriating, but the game isn't as bad as people say it is.

Thus far I have played four AC games and this would be my order from best to worst.

1. Assassin's Creed II
2. Brotherhood
3. Unity
4. Assassin's Creed III

At the moment I am going around Paris finding all the view points to open up the map and trying to earn as much money as I can. I need better armour and weapons. The one map disappointment for me is that you can go anywhere in Paris which kind of defeats the object for me. With ACII in particular I liked the fact if you strayed too far you got a warning or kicked from the animus thus actually having to complete missions to unlock the map. They seem to be over simplifying the game in that sense. It's still a great shame they made such a hash of ACIII.

SE5eagle 23-12-2015 06:51 PM

Haven't heard much more about AC Syndicate; is a load of pony?

Latvian Eagle 23-12-2015 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SE5eagle (Post 12719958)
Haven't heard much more about AC Syndicate; is a load of pony?

I heard it's quite good. Just don't know anyone on here has played it. I haven't as my missus has got it for me for Xmas.

Got ACII, Black Flag, and Unity on the gonat the moment with Syndicate to.come. :eek:

danpalace07 24-12-2015 12:41 AM

AC went massively downhill after Brotherhood (my favourite in the series). The same old shit in every game with a new setting, boring characters and decent graphics with horrible framerates. Ubisoft really are shithouse

danpalace07 24-12-2015 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 12122656)
Not sure if that interests me. The thing I loved about the Assassins Creed 2 set of games was the historical setting and characters which to me fit into the Story of Assassins vs Templars. Modern day story I don't think the series can match up to "similar" games.

But we shall see how it goes... I cannot wait for Unity as the French Revolution etc should be a good setting. The American storyline was just soooooooo dull. :D

Watch Dogs was supposed to be this game but somewhere along the line it became its own thing (but with references to AC)

Bones14 24-12-2015 01:02 AM

AC III is by far the worst I've played, then Rogue. AC II, Brotherhood and to a lesser degree Blackflag are clearly the best in my opinion. Revelations is pretty good too.

Hector 12-01-2016 01:08 PM

I've got AC:Syndicate but not played it yet. Is it any good?

Boyandy 12-01-2016 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hector (Post 12755038)
I've got AC:Syndicate but not played it yet. Is it any good?

I'm only a couple of hours in but I'm liking it so far. Finding it a bit tricky but that's probably because I haven't played an AC game since the second one.

Oddly the twins seem to be from Croydon...

eagle101 12-01-2016 01:11 PM

I'm really enjoying Syndicate, love the setting obviously. Does seem to be more of a return to form from what others have said to me.

I didn't bother with any after III (which I never completed), but heard Black Flag was decent.

PauLo 14-01-2016 11:51 AM

I've played all of the games up to Black Flag, enjoyed most. Will probably skip Rogue as I recently got a PS4 and go straight to Unity and Syndicate.

Latvian Eagle 14-01-2016 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PauLo (Post 12760037)
I've played all of the games up to Black Flag, enjoyed most. Will probably skip Rogue as I recently got a PS4 and go straight to Unity and Syndicate.

Given Unity got slated I actually really enjoy it. Got ACII (Xbox One), Black Flag and Unity to go, with Syndicate waiting in the wings.

PauLo 14-01-2016 02:10 PM

For me, it's all about the setting and lead. I enjoyed 3s settings, but the lead (whose name escapes me) was dull as dishwater. Plus I got stuck doing most of 3's missions again after my first PS3 broke, which didn't help the overall enjoyment. Edward Kenway is fantastic in Black Flag and I love the setting the most out of all the AC games. I love Ezio, but the settings never really gripped me like they did in 3 and Black Flag.

France and London for Unity and Sydicate, though. I'm excited.

Latvian Eagle 14-01-2016 02:22 PM

I love Ezio and I love the setting of Renaissance Italy. So brilliant.

I don't know his long winded actual name in AC3 but the main lead was referred to as Connor Kenway. You started the game as Haytham Kenway though and I never got past his missions.

Edward Kenway seems like a good lead. The thing with playing Black Flag after Unity is you can tell BF is a cross generation game. Unity is a lot smoother and the graphics are such an upgrade.

I love AC2 but playing on the Xbox One now I can't believe how aged the graphics look now in the cut scenes.

PauLo 14-01-2016 04:27 PM

Connor! That's it.

I loved the Italian Renaissance at first, but I think they kind of bled it dry. I think they're better when they chose a different location and time period for each game IMO. Otherwise it can get a bit samey.

Latvian Eagle 14-01-2016 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PauLo (Post 12760576)
Connor! That's it.

I loved the Italian Renaissance at first, but I think they kind of bled it dry. I think they're better when they chose a different location and time period for each game IMO. Otherwise it can get a bit samey.

Which is probably why since the Assassin's Creed II mini series they haven't really tried it again.

Latvian Eagle 14-01-2016 07:40 PM

Ratonhnhaké:ton is Connor's real name.

PauLo 19-01-2016 02:29 PM

I call him Neversmile:Miserable'face.

Finished Black Flag at the weekend. Now getting Unity. Found it for £15 new on ebay, can't complain.

Latvian Eagle 23-01-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PauLo (Post 12770297)
I call him Neversmile:Miserable'face.

Finished Black Flag at the weekend. Now getting Unity. Found it for £15 new on ebay, can't complain.

I had a quick couple of hours on it yesterday. On Memory 7 of 12 and only completed 25% of the game. So so much to do in this game. Won't start Syndicate until I complete it though.

PauLo 27-01-2016 11:08 AM

I don't even buy the next game until I finish the last one. That way, I can get it dirt cheap :D

Started Unity last night. An hour in and I realised it was still the prologue. Looooong way to go, obviously!

Latvian Eagle 27-01-2016 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PauLo (Post 12784997)
I don't even buy the next game until I finish the last one. That way, I can get it dirt cheap :D

Started Unity last night. An hour in and I realised it was still the prologue. Looooong way to go, obviously!

I never buy them (except AC2), I always ask my missus for them for Xmas. :p

Latvian Eagle 03-02-2016 03:29 PM

On to Memory 10 now on Unity. Man was 9 hard. Got to infiltrate a Palace and assassinate some slag who is stealing food, but to get 100% sync on it took me at least 2 hours of attempting it in the end. Got there in the end mind you.

PauLo 03-02-2016 06:53 PM

A few things unlock after 9, doesn't it? I've found the whole game to be harder than previous ones. I like it, as it's more challenging. Especially with the fact your health doesn't automatically replenish after a break from combat. Really makes you think of ways of getting round guards without the normal hack and slash of the previous games.

Latvian Eagle 03-02-2016 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PauLo (Post 12801025)
A few things unlock after 9, doesn't it? I've found the whole game to be harder than previous ones. I like it, as it's more challenging. Especially with the fact your health doesn't automatically replenish after a break from combat. Really makes you think of ways of getting round guards without the normal hack and slash of the previous games.

After 9 you can get a lot more skills. I have probably unlocked about half so far. It is hard so I always make sure I restock ammo and medicine etc before and after each Memory or Mission.

I played AC2 not long ago and I actually forgot that health restores after a while. :moo:

I actually can't work out why Unity gets such a bad rap. Ok it might have been a bit buggy when released but now it's fully patched I think it's a brilliant game. I love running around rooftops sniping snipers too. Key skill to get under your belt is the quick shot. I kept getting killed in melee's for ages until I learnt I could hack one guy then turn and blast the **** behind me in the face with a pistol or rifle. :p

Latvian Eagle 13-02-2016 04:36 AM

Completed Unity tonight. Great game which I think gets a bit of a bad wrap mainly because it was broken when first released, but I enjoyed it. Admittedly the ending is a little disappointing, but now I can finally start Syndicate, and at least I finished Unity in just over a year of getting it. I think ACII took me 3 years. :eek:

PalaceMonkey 17-02-2016 01:57 PM

am playing Syndicate at the moment.
The first memory is in Croydon :lux:

I am enjoying trundling around London, though have just realised that I'm just doing side missions, and I'm now a bit overpowerful for the main sequences. will concentrate on the main bit for a while

Hector 11-03-2016 02:47 PM

Just started Syndicate, having been playing Witcher 3 for ages I'm messing up the buttons and I'm crap at stealth. Seems like a decent game, love that its London.

Adlerhorst 11-03-2016 03:03 PM

Of the recent ones (Paris and London) does anyone know whether they were ported to the PS4 or were any built for the PS4?

Latvian Eagle 11-03-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Adlerhorst (Post 12869113)
Of the recent ones (Paris and London) does anyone know whether they were ported to the PS4 or were any built for the PS4?

PS4... Unity and Syndicate are on the 4.

If you meant PS3 then no they haven't been.

RickyB 06-06-2016 05:36 PM

Just downloaded and playing Black Flag which is available for only £3.99 (5% additional discount if you like the cdkeys FB group) at cdkeys right now :)

RickyB 06-06-2016 05:40 PM

Unity is also only £2.09

Latvian Eagle 21-06-2016 09:55 AM

Finally started Syndicate. Liking it so far. Much prefer using Evie thus far too. The two assassin's aren't much different but I just prefer her slightly more agile ways to Jacob's big clumsy brute strength at the moment.

Adlerhorst 10-07-2016 04:13 PM

Started unity. It is a bit shite

Latvian Eagle 10-07-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Adlerhorst (Post 13101765)
Started unity. It is a bit shite

Really?! :eek:

I really enjoyed Unity.

daverambo2 10-07-2016 05:04 PM

Syndicate is a much better game than Unity. It's actually fun.

Latvian Eagle 10-07-2016 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by daverambo2 (Post 13101829)
Syndicate is a much better game than Unity. It's actually fun.

Not got that far yet on Syndicate. I did really enjoy Unity though. I think a lot of people hate on it because it was bugged when it was released.

Adlerhorst 11-07-2016 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 13101930)
Not got that far yet on Syndicate. I did really enjoy Unity though. I think a lot of people hate on it because it was bugged when it was released.

so far I am primarily bored.

I don't like the setting. I don't like the controls. The lead character doesn't have any actual character. He also gets stuck a lot. The story is also very meh.

Latvian Eagle 06-10-2016 06:54 AM

Remastered versions of the Ezio Collection coming to PS4 and Xbox ONE this November... £35 for these three masterpieces... That is definitely going on the Xmas List to the wife. :lux:

ACII is still my favourite game of the series.

Repo Man 23-01-2017 05:01 PM

Bought the Ezio Collection when it came out, only just got round to playing Brotherhood and really enjoying it (more so than Unity and Syndicate).

Empire is on the way apparently : https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/265448...eaks-trailers/

Not sure about the Egyptian setting, would have preferred either something in the Middle Ages or First/Second World War set.

Repo Man 09-05-2017 04:37 PM

Apparently it's now going to be called Origins, but is still set in Egypt. Alleged first screen shot here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...image-is-legit

Latvian Eagle 09-05-2017 05:17 PM

Empire was a much better name in my opinion.

Repo Man 08-06-2017 04:09 PM

A glimpse of a US pre-order card: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...s-leaked-again

Latvian Eagle 08-06-2017 04:27 PM

Nice!

Repo Man 13-06-2017 08:40 AM

Release date confirmed as 27th October: https://assassinscreed.ubisoft.com/g...LERCRM_ID45613

Latvian Eagle 13-06-2017 10:28 AM

Looks great too.

Hector 13-06-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Repo Man (Post 13684067)
Release date confirmed as 27th October: https://assassinscreed.ubisoft.com/g...LERCRM_ID45613

Which is a bit strange as they demo it on Xbox one X but that doesn't get released until a week after?

Repo Man 27-10-2017 10:14 AM

Picked up a copy on my work into work this morning, but what with going out tonight, then going to the West Ham game tomorrow followed by seeing Frank Skinner in the evening, its going to be a while before I can give this a proper go. Seems to be getting decent reviews though.

Hector 27-10-2017 11:17 AM

Got my copy in the post today but I have to finish Shadow of War first


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