Home | Forums | Gallery | Twitter
 
CPFC BBS  

Go Back   CPFC BBS » Other Sport » World of Football

Notices

World of Football All non Palace football talk - includes latest scores on Internationals and matches that affect palace.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #81  
Old 07-09-2014, 02:09 PM
Arron's Avatar
Arron Arron is offline
Nothing to see here.
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The bottom of a bottle
Posts: 12,441
Rep Power: 21474845
Arron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Palace View Post
You make it sound as though Pulis acted unilaterally without Peter Coates' consent and backing. I don't believe Pulis did anything that Coates wasn't happy to sanction. Coates set the goalposts and Pulis operated within them. In return, Pulis turned an average first division club into an established mid-table premiership team. I don't see why Pulis and Parish couldn't have agreed a similar accommodation.

The problem with some people on this site is that they can't see there is a middle way between blowing millions of pounds and going into administration, and spending peanuts. I would have hoped Pulis and Parish could have agreed a way forward that gave us the best chance of staying in the league, while not risking the club's long-term future.

I agree CPFC2010 have done - and are doing - an amazing job. But one issue for me is that they are rifling through the managers - 4 in 4 years is not ideal. They need to find an eventual successor for Warnock that will establish the club over a longer period.
At Stoke Coates installed a chief exec to carry out the running of the club. That chief exec agreed a transfer budget with Pulis the last season he was there, a budget that came from Coates. It was Pulis circumventing the chief exec and going to Coates asking for more money that was the beginning of the end for him at Stoke. Pulis then refused to deal within the budget set for the next season so Coates decided to cut him loose.

Pulis is a chequebook manager, go through his managerial history and you'll see that he's always spent plenty of money at the clubs he's been at and often had a parting of the ways when he doesn't get his own way.
__________________
"Two nil! And Palace are in business now! There's the look of relief on that mans face, and the look of joy on theirs!"
Reply With Quote
  #82  
Old 07-09-2014, 03:05 PM
Mr Palace Mr Palace is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Balham
Age: 40
Posts: 12,051
Rep Power: 21474850
Mr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by mushroom View Post
yea it's a tough one, believe the lifelong Palace fan (one of us) or the manager who was here for a few months, who then walked out 2 days before the season started, but not before he tipped off his mates so they could make a killing at the bookies.
You'd fit in well in North Korea mate. Keep buying the corporate line without questioning anything...
Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old 07-09-2014, 03:06 PM
Mr Palace Mr Palace is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Balham
Age: 40
Posts: 12,051
Rep Power: 21474850
Mr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arron View Post
At Stoke Coates installed a chief exec to carry out the running of the club. That chief exec agreed a transfer budget with Pulis the last season he was there, a budget that came from Coates. It was Pulis circumventing the chief exec and going to Coates asking for more money that was the beginning of the end for him at Stoke. Pulis then refused to deal within the budget set for the next season so Coates decided to cut him loose.

Pulis is a chequebook manager, go through his managerial history and you'll see that he's always spent plenty of money at the clubs he's been at and often had a parting of the ways when he doesn't get his own way.
Genuine question but did the money Pulis spent on players at Stoke outweigh the money they earned year in, year out from securing strong finishes in the PL?
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old 07-09-2014, 03:31 PM
cpfc4evandeva's Avatar
cpfc4evandeva cpfc4evandeva is online now
Heshlo Kitty
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 21,464
Rep Power: 21474848
cpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Owngoal View Post
Did he bone you up the.......?
You just bring him wherever possible. I don't get it.
Reply With Quote
  #85  
Old 07-09-2014, 03:50 PM
Billy Rhino's Avatar
Billy Rhino Billy Rhino is offline
Time is running out
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sadchester
Age: 46
Posts: 14,858
Rep Power: 21474847
Billy Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Palace View Post
Genuine question but did the money Pulis spent on players at Stoke outweigh the money they earned year in, year out from securing strong finishes in the PL?
VVV

Quote:
Originally Posted by dave_who_ru View Post
Other than a profit of £0.5m in 2009 they have lost money. Most recent:

2011: £3.95m
2012: £7.4m
2013: £31m

Plus an extract from 2010:

Stoke have consistently been among the top spenders since their return to the Premier League a couple of years ago (£30 million in 2008 and another £18 million in 2009).
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old 07-09-2014, 03:55 PM
BW_Palace's Avatar
BW_Palace BW_Palace is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,386
Rep Power: 3424326
BW_Palace : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineBW_Palace : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineBW_Palace : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineBW_Palace : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineBW_Palace : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineBW_Palace : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineBW_Palace : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineBW_Palace : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineBW_Palace : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineBW_Palace : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineBW_Palace : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Palace View Post
Genuine question but did the money Pulis spent on players at Stoke outweigh the money they earned year in, year out from securing strong finishes in the PL?
They were making losses, though iirc pretty much all clubs do anyway.

A relevant question is whether if they were to go down, whether they'd be financially stable. You can say 'well, under Pulis, they would never go down' but this is untrue. Anyone from outside the 'big 7' (Everton, Spurs + the obvious 5) has a chance, of varying degree, of going down. For us, that chance this season was fairly significant (around 25% give or take). I believe the betting markets were putting Stoke at around 15% in his last couple of seasons. Things can go unexpectedly badly for all sorts of reasons. Let's not forget we were in the battle till fairly late when we strung together five wins. Given we don't have billionaire owners willing to pump multimillions into the club, we would be in big financial trouble upon relegation.

Also worth asking is if, given their spending, they were achieving better or worse than they should have been. Given their net spend was around Top 4 levels during his last few years there, it's hard to say he was overachieving. If Stoke could achieve the same as they were under big-spending Pulis with a different manager then his spending/management was inefficient - they did.
Reply With Quote
  #87  
Old 07-09-2014, 03:59 PM
LLCOOLSTEVE's Avatar
LLCOOLSTEVE LLCOOLSTEVE is offline
Shake it Baby
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 55,514
Rep Power: 14838122
LLCOOLSTEVE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLLCOOLSTEVE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLLCOOLSTEVE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLLCOOLSTEVE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLLCOOLSTEVE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLLCOOLSTEVE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLLCOOLSTEVE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLLCOOLSTEVE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLLCOOLSTEVE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLLCOOLSTEVE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietLLCOOLSTEVE came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva View Post
Did Freedman f*ck your wife or something?

He is obsessed with him
__________________
Joga Bonito
Reply With Quote
  #88  
Old 07-09-2014, 04:11 PM
Mr Palace Mr Palace is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Balham
Age: 40
Posts: 12,051
Rep Power: 21474850
Mr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is hereMr Palace Sam the man is here
Interesting stats on Stoke's spending. Obviously Coates was happy to sanction that. Pulis knew he was never going to get anything like that at Palace, but he must have hoped for a middle path. I guess we'll see if we are able to stay up having spent so little. I hope so as it would be a massive shame to go back now. I'm pretty confident Warnock has steady the ship for this season and just about keep us up.
Reply With Quote
  #89  
Old 07-09-2014, 04:15 PM
Arron's Avatar
Arron Arron is offline
Nothing to see here.
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The bottom of a bottle
Posts: 12,441
Rep Power: 21474845
Arron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Palace View Post
Genuine question but did the money Pulis spent on players at Stoke outweigh the money they earned year in, year out from securing strong finishes in the PL?
The money spent on players and the wages that were being paid was more than they were making. That's why Coates had to continuously put his hand in his pocket, something he was no longer willing to do. You'll notice that since he took over Hughes has spent a fraction of what Pulis did in just his last season. Coates wanted to go in a different direction, Pulis was unwilling to go with him. Sounds familiar, does it not?
__________________
"Two nil! And Palace are in business now! There's the look of relief on that mans face, and the look of joy on theirs!"
Reply With Quote
  #90  
Old 07-09-2014, 04:28 PM
Golf Boy's Avatar
Golf Boy Golf Boy is offline
I'm not divorced
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not Copenhagen
Age: 48
Posts: 29,617
Rep Power: 21474851
Golf Boy Sam the man is hereGolf Boy Sam the man is hereGolf Boy Sam the man is hereGolf Boy Sam the man is hereGolf Boy Sam the man is hereGolf Boy Sam the man is hereGolf Boy Sam the man is hereGolf Boy Sam the man is hereGolf Boy Sam the man is hereGolf Boy Sam the man is hereGolf Boy Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Palace View Post
You'd fit in well in North Korea mate. Keep buying the corporate line without questioning anything...
Bollox. Look at Pulis's hstory.
Reply With Quote
  #91  
Old 07-09-2014, 04:46 PM
Nobby's Avatar
Nobby Nobby is offline
6000 miles from there
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 2,321
Rep Power: 3547966
Nobby : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineNobby : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineNobby : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineNobby : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineNobby : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineNobby : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineNobby : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineNobby : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineNobby : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineNobby : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineNobby : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
I think Tony Pulis knows deep down that he'll never find another Stoke situation in his career. Which is possibly why he was so perpetually nostalgic about his time there when he was with us.
I can't see any Premier League club ever giving him as much rope as Coates gave him. He'll certainly be in demand as a short-term, highly-paid firefighter in the immediate future, but if he's genuinely looking to develop a club over a 5-10 year period, I suspect that ship has sailed for him, in any division of English football.
But I don't think he is genuinely looking for that.
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 07-09-2014, 05:37 PM
Billy Rhino's Avatar
Billy Rhino Billy Rhino is offline
Time is running out
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sadchester
Age: 46
Posts: 14,858
Rep Power: 21474847
Billy Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is hereBilly Rhino Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by LLCOOLSTEVE View Post
He is obsessed with him
Where as you are obsessed with snidey insinuations that you never back up with facts.
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old 07-09-2014, 08:12 PM
Palace121's Avatar
Palace121 Palace121 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Horsham, West Sussex
Age: 33
Posts: 3,839
Rep Power: 10437711
Palace121 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace121 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace121 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace121 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace121 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace121 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace121 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace121 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace121 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace121 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPalace121 came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reps AJ View Post
Losing £30m in the premier league is surely the very definition of unsustainable
My point is that should those losses could pay off should you maintain premiership status. Things like continued larger gates and more lucrative sponsorship deals, along with the money provided from the league make it more than sustainable. Provided the losses don't continue.

If you go down, you inevitably lose a couple of your more expensive players, along with the parachute payments, You're not going out of business.

I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, I'm just saying it's probably sustainable (for a short time) in modern day football.
__________________
Previously known as Si121.
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 07-09-2014, 09:10 PM
dave_who_ru's Avatar
dave_who_ru dave_who_ru is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: South London la la la
Posts: 8,581
Rep Power: 17013063
dave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Palace121 View Post
My point is that should those losses could pay off should you maintain premiership status. Things like continued larger gates and more lucrative sponsorship deals, along with the money provided from the league make it more than sustainable. Provided the losses don't continue.

If you go down, you inevitably lose a couple of your more expensive players, along with the parachute payments, You're not going out of business.

I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, I'm just saying it's probably sustainable (for a short time) in modern day football.
In theory yes, but you are relying on someone to fund this, whether by debt or equity. Even a big owner like Bet365 has a limit.
__________________
Also Michael Hughes a f*****g 87 year old journeyman showed Garcia, Pongolle, Potter, Kewell and Cisse how to play in a wide position, he took the p**s out of us tonight.

LFC fansite
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old 08-09-2014, 06:40 AM
Gooders's Avatar
Gooders Gooders is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Crowthorne
Age: 58
Posts: 63,366
Rep Power: 20798052
Gooders came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGooders came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGooders came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGooders came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGooders came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGooders came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGooders came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGooders came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGooders came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGooders came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietGooders came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arron View Post
The money spent on players and the wages that were being paid was more than they were making. That's why Coates had to continuously put his hand in his pocket, something he was no longer willing to do. You'll notice that since he took over Hughes has spent a fraction of what Pulis did in just his last season. Coates wanted to go in a different direction, Pulis was unwilling to go with him. Sounds familiar, does it not?
Let's wait and see how Hughes does once the players that Pulis brought in have moved on - I have my doubts that he will be able to sustain it.
__________________
Don't vote - it only encourages them
Reply With Quote
  #96  
Old 08-09-2014, 01:41 PM
brooklynlou's Avatar
brooklynlou brooklynlou is offline
STOP MOCKING MY SPRELLING
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA
Age: 51
Posts: 6,368
Rep Power: 16166137
brooklynlou came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbrooklynlou came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbrooklynlou came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbrooklynlou came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbrooklynlou came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbrooklynlou came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbrooklynlou came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbrooklynlou came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbrooklynlou came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbrooklynlou came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbrooklynlou came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Palace View Post
Interesting stats on Stoke's spending. Obviously Coates was happy to sanction that. Pulis knew he was never going to get anything like that at Palace, but he must have hoped for a middle path. I guess we'll see if we are able to stay up having spent so little. I hope so as it would be a massive shame to go back now. I'm pretty confident Warnock has steady the ship for this season and just about keep us up.
Dude. We spent 11 million this window. We made the top ten on net spend. We have another 10 or so available for the January window. Where do you get off saying "we spent so little"?
__________________
Utterer of the very first Alan Lee fact ... FACT!
In charge of the chimney at the Jerk shop (1,2,3)
Reply With Quote
  #97  
Old 08-09-2014, 02:05 PM
Arron's Avatar
Arron Arron is offline
Nothing to see here.
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The bottom of a bottle
Posts: 12,441
Rep Power: 21474845
Arron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooders View Post
Let's wait and see how Hughes does once the players that Pulis brought in have moved on - I have my doubts that he will be able to sustain it.
You may well be right, but one could also argue that if Pulis had stayed, and was working within the sustainable model Coates has brought in, that he too could've struggled to sustain Stoke's Premier League status.
__________________
"Two nil! And Palace are in business now! There's the look of relief on that mans face, and the look of joy on theirs!"
Reply With Quote
  #98  
Old 08-09-2014, 02:05 PM
Arron's Avatar
Arron Arron is offline
Nothing to see here.
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The bottom of a bottle
Posts: 12,441
Rep Power: 21474845
Arron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is hereArron Sam the man is here
Double post
__________________
"Two nil! And Palace are in business now! There's the look of relief on that mans face, and the look of joy on theirs!"
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old 08-09-2014, 02:20 PM
Crofty's Avatar
Crofty Crofty is offline
Glad....All Over!
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Forest Hill
Age: 59
Posts: 8,770
Rep Power: 21474848
Crofty Sam the man is hereCrofty Sam the man is hereCrofty Sam the man is hereCrofty Sam the man is hereCrofty Sam the man is hereCrofty Sam the man is hereCrofty Sam the man is hereCrofty Sam the man is hereCrofty Sam the man is hereCrofty Sam the man is hereCrofty Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Rhino View Post
A worthy thread imo. I reckon the reason he was arguing with his missus is because he is so stubborn that he wouldn't even listen to her.

Sorry Tony but you ****ed up here, Palace have more potential than Stoke but you couldn't see it. I know SP can be hard to work with but he is a clever sod who knows his onions, you should've stayed and proved yourself.
IMHO it will be Coventry or Yewtree…….
__________________
She wanted to see Paris, you took her to see Palace. She wanted Chanel No5, you gave her Kronenbourg 1664. She wanted appreciation, you gave her the clap.
Reply With Quote
  #100  
Old 08-09-2014, 02:23 PM
EddieEdwards's Avatar
EddieEdwards EddieEdwards is offline
Pilot of the storm
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Carshalton Beeches
Age: 56
Posts: 7,126
Rep Power: 21474853
EddieEdwards Sam the man is hereEddieEdwards Sam the man is hereEddieEdwards Sam the man is hereEddieEdwards Sam the man is hereEddieEdwards Sam the man is hereEddieEdwards Sam the man is hereEddieEdwards Sam the man is hereEddieEdwards Sam the man is hereEddieEdwards Sam the man is hereEddieEdwards Sam the man is hereEddieEdwards Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arron View Post
You may well be right, but one could also argue that if Pulis had stayed, and was working within the sustainable model Coates has brought in, that he too could've struggled to sustain Stoke's Premier League status.
Or would've walked away without trying.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.