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They’re sniffing around Marco Silva according to the BBC
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Old 13-11-2017, 09:29 PM
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They’re sniffing around Marco Silva according to the BBC
would he go there? they are a basket case waiting to implode
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Old 13-11-2017, 09:31 PM
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They’re sniffing around Marco Silva according to the BBC
Would be happy with that if it derails Watford.
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Old 13-11-2017, 09:44 PM
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Would be happy with that if it derails Watford.
Lost their last 3 - They're not all that.
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Old 13-11-2017, 09:50 PM
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Lost their last 3 - They're not all that.
They can score but can't defend. We can't score or defend too well so it makes them better than us though
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Lost their last 3 - They're not all that.
Because their defence is an utter mess.He had them above Chelsea with Mariappa and Kabasele at centre back for most of the season.And they should have beaten both Chelsea and Everton away.Silva is a very good manager but I can't see why you would leave Watford for Everton right now.
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Old 13-11-2017, 11:00 PM
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Bit naughty trying to poach a manager that's been at a club 6 months.
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Old 13-11-2017, 11:11 PM
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Bit naughty trying to poach a manager that's been at a club 6 months.
I know. We'd kill for loyalty like that.
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They can score but can't defend. We can't score or defend too well so it makes them better than us though
Last 3 games we have conceded 4 and scored 2. Watford have conceded 8 and scored 4.

Like a few teams, they have had a flying start and whilst our position is probably artificially low for the quality we have, there are a few teams, including Watford that are probably artificially high at the moment.
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Old 14-11-2017, 09:42 AM
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Last 3 games we have conceded 4 and scored 2. Watford have conceded 8 and scored 4.

Like a few teams, they have had a flying start and whilst our position is probably artificially low for the quality we have, there are a few teams, including Watford that are probably artificially high at the moment.
Yes I agree with that. I think fans are finding it hard to adapt to the fact that there are 6 clubs that you just can't touch, then the other 14 are pretty much on a level with each other and fight it out.

Go through a good run - as we did at the start of 2015/16, and you're knocking on Europe and seems you're a class side with a top manager. A few bad results and you're in relegation trouble, manager seems clueless and fans calling for his head.

The margins are so fine in that league of 14. One minute Pardew, Koeman and Howe are flavour of the month, the next they look awful; now it's Silva and Dyche's turn to have people creaming over them, but give it a bad spell and suddenly they won't look so good.

It's probably accounting for the quick turnover of managers. This 'new' 2 tier Premier League is giving a exaggerated sense of how well or badly you're doing.
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Yes I agree with that. I think fans are finding it hard to adapt to the fact that there are 6 clubs that you just can't touch, then the other 14 are pretty much on a level with each other and fight it out.

Go through a good run - as we did at the start of 2015/16, and you're knocking on Europe and seems you're a class side with a top manager. A few bad results and you're in relegation trouble, manager seems clueless and fans calling for his head.

The margins are so fine in that league of 14. One minute Pardew, Koeman and Howe are flavour of the month, the next they look awful; now it's Silva and Dyche's turn to have people creaming over them, but give it a bad spell and suddenly they won't look so good.

It's probably accounting for the quick turnover of managers. This 'new' 2 tier Premier League is giving a exaggerated sense of how well or badly you're doing.
Great post. It's almost like an extended version of the "Manager of the Month Curse" from the old days.
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Journalists and pundits just simply report recent events as a prophecy, that they know something ordaned when really they may have just won afew games and are playing well at that moment, its isnt analytical, just very obvious. It quickly changes and they will be the first to point to failure when the same players/managers are out of form or have a bad spell.
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Yes I agree with that. I think fans are finding it hard to adapt to the fact that there are 6 clubs that you just can't touch, then the other 14 are pretty much on a level with each other and fight it out.

Go through a good run - as we did at the start of 2015/16, and you're knocking on Europe and seems you're a class side with a top manager. A few bad results and you're in relegation trouble, manager seems clueless and fans calling for his head.

The margins are so fine in that league of 14. One minute Pardew, Koeman and Howe are flavour of the month, the next they look awful; now it's Silva and Dyche's turn to have people creaming over them, but give it a bad spell and suddenly they won't look so good.

It's probably accounting for the quick turnover of managers. This 'new' 2 tier Premier League is giving a exaggerated sense of how well or badly you're doing.
There is also the fact that for most of those 14 teams they might have 1 or 2 players who could get into a top 6 side, then they have a number of PL quality players but very few have a squad with depth to having 2 PL players in 1 position let alone every position like the top 6. You therefore have to rely to an extent on the luck of when injuries and suspensions come.

We have 3 players who might get into a top 6 side in Zaha, Sakho and Benteke. All have missed over half the games so far and never started together. Other clubs who have kept their best players fit and playing week in week out are higher in the table.

If those 3 stay fit from now through to Christmas i do not think we will be in the drop zone when we are tucking into our Turkey.
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Journalists and pundits just simply report recent events as a prophecy, that they know something ordaned when really they may have just won afew games and are playing well at that moment, its isnt analytical, just very obvious. It quickly changes and they will be the first to point to failure when the same players/managers are out of form or have a bad spell.
It was painfully obvious that none of the punditry had bothered to watch Ruben's games for Palace. Was never going to stop them prattling on though.
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I am sure i read over the weekend that Silva was happy to stay at Watford for now, and for me that makes sense as he needs to grow his reputation further for now rather than take a risky step too soon, and Everton is a big risk.
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