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Old 04-12-2017, 03:14 PM
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"Official" F1 Predictions & Gossip 2018

May as well get this thread started.

Sauber have confirmed their driver line-up and shown off their Alfa-Romeo based livery for 2018.

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Positions after the Abu Dhabi GP, the final race of 20 for 2017, 26th November 2017

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1 SwampThing 902 20 45.10
2 MasterYoda 889 20 44.45
3 Scrumpy 864 20 43.20
4 little al 826 19 43.47368421
5 mexicaneagle 814 20 40.7
6 Bintang 810 20 40.5
7 Biggus Mickus 809 20 40.45
8 EddieEdwards 803 20 40.15
9 CT_Palace 793 20 39.65
10 Percy Dalton 764 20 38.2
11 Richard 761 20 38.05
12 zaph_01 759 19 39.94736842
13 spunky 756 19 39.78947368
14 davech 747 20 37.35
15 Maidstoned Eagle 743 20 37.15
16 Mitch Mickus 740 20 37
MASSIV 724
17 RednBlue 715 20 35.75
18 eagles073 702 20 35.1
19 Latvian Eagle 700 20 35
20 Hibernator 693 20 34.65
21 Mike Douglas 664 20 33.2
22 Eaglesfan1 663 17 39
23 Ridcully 645 19 33.94736842
24 meee 638 20 31.9
25 grand aigle 637 19 33.52631579
26 Newts G 635 16 39.6875
27 charltonhater 622 18 34.55555556
28 Bones14 589 17 34.64705882
29 Icy 572 20 28.6
30 danpalace07 379 12 31.58333333
31 Quipton 221 7 31.57142857
32 Eagle's Nest 151 4 37.75
33 Excowboy 145 3 48.33333333
34 foresthillbilly 37 1 37
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The Rules :

Only 3 months to go now so time to dust off the spreadsheet, convene the stewards meetings and decide on the Rules and Regulations for 2017.
If any one would like to suggest any changes feel free, but this thread is not democratic and the power hungry despot in charge will as per F1 make his own mind up.


2017 GP Drivers and Teams :
Blue colour indicates a confirmed 2018 contract
Green indicates a confirmed/current Reserve/Test Driver for the team


Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Engine TAG Heuer badged Renault
3. Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull Racing
33. Max Verstappen - Red Bull Racing



McLaren - Engine Renault
14. Fernando Alonso - McLaren Renault
2. Stoffel Vandoorne - McLaren Renault



Scuderia Ferrari
5. Sebastian Vettel - Scuderia Ferrari
7. Kimi Raikkonen - Scuderia Ferrari

Antonio Giovinazzi


Mercedes Grand Prix
44. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes Grand Prix
77. Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes Grand Prix


Renault
27. Nico Hulkenberg - Team Renault
55. Carlos Sainz - Team Renault


Williams - Engine Mercedes
18. Lance Stroll - Williams-Mercedes
nn. To be confirmed

Force India - Engine Mercedes
11. Sergio Perez - Force India F1 Team-Mercedes
31. Esteban Ocon - Force India F1 Team-Mercedes



Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team - Engine Alfa-Romeo
9. Marcus Ericsson - BMW Sauber-Alfa
16. Charles Leclerc - BMW Sauber-Alfa
36. Antonio Giovinazzi - BMW Sauber-Alfa

Scuderia Toro Rosso - Engine Honda
10. Pierre Gasly - Scuderia Toro Rosso-Honda
28. Brendon Hartley - Scuderia Toro Rosso-Honda


HAAS- Engine Ferrari
8. Roman Grosjean - HAAS
20. Kevin Magnusson - HAAS



2018 Schedule :

1 25th March Australian Grand Prix Melbourne
2 08th April Bahrain Grand Prix Sakhir
3 15th April Chinese Grand Prix Shanghai International Circuit
4 29th April Azerbaijan Grand Prix Baku
5 13th May Spanish Grand Prix Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona
6 27th May Monaco Grand Prix Monte-Carlo
7 10th June Canadian Grand Prix Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal
8 24th June French Grand Prix ??????
9 1st July Austria Grand Prix Red Bull Ring, Spielburg
10 8th July British Grand Prix Silverstone
11 22nd July German Grand Prix ??????
12 29th July Hungarian Grand Prix Hungaroring
13 26th August Belgian Grand Prix Spa-Francorchamps
14 2nd September Italian Grand Prix Monza
15 16th September Singapore Grand Prix Singapore
16 30th September Russian Grand Prix Sochi
17 7th October Japanese Grand Prix Suzuka
18 21st October United States Grand Prix Austin To be confirmed
19 28th October Mexico Grand Prix Mexico City
20 11th November Brazilian Grand Prix Interlagos
21 25th November Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Yas Island

Rules as follows :

First five places to pick

Win 25 pts
2nd 18 pts
3rd 15 pts
4th 12 pts
5th 10 pts

Correctly predicting driver in top 5, but not in correct position 2 pts.

Pole 10 pts
Fastest lap 10 pts

5 Bonus points to be awarded if prediction is made before first practice for the race, times as per BBS clock and official practice start times.

Therefore, maximum points for a race week are now

(25+18+15+12+10+10+5+5 = 100 Points)

Predictions are fixed at qualifying, no changes permitted afterwards although late entries will be accepted with a 10 point deduction for predictions after the start of the qualifying session.

Predictions are welcome by PM, please PM Mike Douglas and I will post them on the thread before the race if this option is used.

Note : Timings are taken as per post or edit times if post is changed.
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Predictions are fixed at qualifying, no changes permitted afterwards although late entries will be accepted with a 10 point deduction for predictions after the start of the qualifying session.
Although I benefitted most from it last season I would enforce this rule strictly as worded. Once you've made your predictions and FP1 or Quali has happened then you shouldn't be allowed to adjust your predictions. Although you've always allowed it it's kinda felt a bit like cheating.

I'd also like to once more propose a couple extra points for being one place out in the top 5. I may have asked for that before
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Maybe also introduce a bonus of say 5 points if you correctly predict which driver will make up the most places from their qualifying spot?
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I agree that predictions should be fixed once FP1 has started. No problem with people predicting late and missing out on the 5 point bonus, but if you've predicted before FP1 in order to get the bonus then you should have to stick with that rather than get a second bite.
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In response to the above, and to possibly clarify things the pre start rules at the moment are:
1. If you forecast before FP1 (1st Practice) then you get a bonus of 5 points.
2. If you change that forecast at any time after FP1 then you lose that bonus.
3. If you forecast or change your forecast after the start of qualification then no bonus applies and a penalty of 10 points applies.

It is interesting to note that in the proposed changes to the F1 rules for next season there was also a provision for a "change to the event timetable to increase flexibility". A spokesman said that instead of a prescribed time for the various practice sessions, there will be a window of time in which they can occur. So we will have to define in the regulations whether it is the actual time practice starts or the pre-published time.

I will leave the debate open on changes to our rule until sometime in February but I am minded to agree that if you forecast before FP1 you are stuck with that forecast. I suspect it may mean that there will be a lot of forecasts after FP3 and before Qualification. Does this penalize people going on holiday? Do we still allow under judges discretion the possibility of changing this if a grid penalty occurs during one of the practice sessions?

Scrumpy's idea of a further 5 points for the best improvement in position sounds OK as long as I can find somewhere which does the calculation for me. Questions: When would you have to make the forecast by and would it be changeable. Grid penalties would obviously have quite an effect.

MasterYoda's re-proposed (for the third time?) suggestion of some points for being one place out makes my life difficult so I have always said no. 2 points would mean you scored the same for being wrong as for being correct. Perhaps 5 for correct and 2 for wrong might work, but then that means the early bonus points seem too low.

I think taking a penalty when you shouldn't deserves shooting.
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I think your rules and point scoring, as they stand today, are perfectly adequate Mike. The only thing that disrupts things is when one team is streaks better than any other team (as per the seasons before last), then the predictions for the top points are pretty straightforward (e.g. for 2015 and 16 the default for P1 and P2 was Hamilton and Rosberg).
In this case I think we need additional points scoring opportunities. IIRC (even though I wasn't taking part in the predictions comp) I proposed forecasting where the McLarens would come.
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