Home | Forums | Gallery | Twitter
 
CPFC BBS  

Go Back   CPFC BBS » Crystal Palace Football Club » General Palace Discussion

Notices

General Palace Discussion General Palace talk - please keep transfer talk in the transfer forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 07-12-2017, 09:32 PM
CJ PLUM CJ PLUM is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Age: 63
Posts: 461
Rep Power: 11324530
CJ PLUM came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCJ PLUM came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCJ PLUM came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCJ PLUM came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCJ PLUM came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCJ PLUM came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCJ PLUM came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCJ PLUM came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCJ PLUM came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCJ PLUM came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietCJ PLUM came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Selhurst Park Sound System

There have previously been several complaints reported to the SAG meetings about the quality of the sound system in various parts of the stadium.
This is often tested in an empty stadium which can show different results from a full stadium where sound is often absorbed the crowd.
I now understand from the club that an engineer from the public address system installers will be attending the game against Watford on Tuesday to assess the system.
We would be grateful if fans in all sections of the ground could provide their own feedback (sorry for pun) for both the Bournemouth and Watford games.

Please give details of the relevant stand ,block and row and then give a score from 0 to 5 for the quality of the system for both loudness and clarity where 5 is too loud for loudness and 5 is crystal clear for clarity ( so system could 5-too loud and 1- unintelligible).
Would you also give a score for the quality of both the new floodlighting and the internal stand lighting of the seating and stair areas where 5 represents blinded by the glare. (so the s
So for each game that's scores from 0 to 5 for:

Stand:
Block:
Row:
Loudness:
Clarity:
Floodlights:
Stand lights:


Edit- score system clarifed
__________________
The strap line does not say Croydon and Proud , SE25 and Proud or even Crystal Palace and Proud but SOUTH LONDON AND PROUD and that is an important statement of intent.
"Prejudice is a great time saver.You can form opinions without having to get the facts." E.B. White “When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber.” Winston Churchill

Last edited by CJ PLUM; 09-12-2017 at 10:14 AM. Reason: score system clarified
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-12-2017, 09:51 PM
Free Balls Free Balls is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Age: 37
Posts: 139
Rep Power: 974427
Free Balls : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineFree Balls : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineFree Balls : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineFree Balls : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineFree Balls : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineFree Balls : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineFree Balls : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineFree Balls : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineFree Balls : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineFree Balls : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineFree Balls : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Bore off.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-12-2017, 10:04 PM
Slimbloke'H''s Avatar
Slimbloke'H' Slimbloke'H' is offline
Eagle in the Borders
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Worcester
Posts: 9,124
Rep Power: 21474854
Slimbloke'H' Sam the man is hereSlimbloke'H' Sam the man is hereSlimbloke'H' Sam the man is hereSlimbloke'H' Sam the man is hereSlimbloke'H' Sam the man is hereSlimbloke'H' Sam the man is hereSlimbloke'H' Sam the man is hereSlimbloke'H' Sam the man is hereSlimbloke'H' Sam the man is hereSlimbloke'H' Sam the man is hereSlimbloke'H' Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Balls View Post
Bore off.
Thank you for your considered input.
__________________
"Afternoon everybody"

" Heh, Norm! How's life treating you?"

"Like I just ran over his dog."
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-12-2017, 10:12 PM
Norwich_Eagle's Avatar
Norwich_Eagle Norwich_Eagle is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Norwich
Age: 29
Posts: 1,923
Rep Power: 11499030
Norwich_Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNorwich_Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNorwich_Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNorwich_Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNorwich_Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNorwich_Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNorwich_Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNorwich_Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNorwich_Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNorwich_Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNorwich_Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ PLUM View Post
There have previously been several complaints reported to the SAG meetings about the quality of the sound system in various parts of the stadium.
This is often tested in an empty stadium which can show different results from a full stadium where sound is often absorbed the crowd.
I now understand from the club that an engineer from the public address system installers will be attending the game against Watford on Tuesday to assess the system.
We would be grateful if fans in all sections of the ground could provide their own feedback (sorry for pun) for both the Bournemouth and Watford games.

Please give details of the relevant stand ,block and row and then give a score from 0 to 5 for the quality of the system for both loudness and clarity where 5 is too loud or crystal clear.
Would you also give a score for the quality of both the new floodlighting and the internal stand lighting of the seating and stair areas where 5 represents blinded by the glare.
So for each game that's scores from 0 to 5 for:

Stand:
Block:
Row:
Loudness:
Clarity:
Floodlights:
Stand lights:
Stand - Holmesdale
Block - A
Row - 10
Loudness - it doesn't exist, 0
Clarity - it doesn't exist, 0
Floodlights - fine, 4
Stand lights - fine, 4
__________________


Here's Andy Johnson He's More Than Capable... Of Scoring
And He Very Nearly Did.....
And Neil Shipperley has!!!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-12-2017, 10:20 PM
Salad_Burnet Salad_Burnet is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Age: 39
Posts: 1,686
Rep Power: 13326327
Salad_Burnet came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSalad_Burnet came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSalad_Burnet came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSalad_Burnet came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSalad_Burnet came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSalad_Burnet came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSalad_Burnet came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSalad_Burnet came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSalad_Burnet came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSalad_Burnet came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSalad_Burnet came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Stand - Arthur (I'm not even going to attempt his surname on the BBS)
Block - W
Row - 42
Loudness - It's alright, 3
Clarity - It's alright, 3
Floodlights - I like the additional lighting myself, 5
Stand lights - I like sitting in the gloom, NA
__________________
"Pardew and that s**** little London cornershop club are irrelevant and can f*** off."
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-12-2017, 10:28 PM
Stonewall Stonewall is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 3,143
Rep Power: 2517545
Stonewall : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineStonewall : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineStonewall : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineStonewall : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineStonewall : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineStonewall : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineStonewall : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineStonewall : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineStonewall : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineStonewall : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineStonewall : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Ok. In The Whitehorse end, Too Loud And Harsh sounding!
in my opinion. (Row S right at the back).
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-12-2017, 10:55 PM
Joe.L Joe.L is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 473
Rep Power: 3931510
Joe.L : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineJoe.L : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineJoe.L : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineJoe.L : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineJoe.L : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineJoe.L : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineJoe.L : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineJoe.L : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineJoe.L : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineJoe.L : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineJoe.L : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slimbloke'H' View Post
Thank you for your considered input.
Tbf he does have a point
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-12-2017, 01:57 AM
MFBias's Avatar
MFBias MFBias is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,857
Rep Power: 21474841
MFBias Sam the man is hereMFBias Sam the man is hereMFBias Sam the man is hereMFBias Sam the man is hereMFBias Sam the man is hereMFBias Sam the man is hereMFBias Sam the man is hereMFBias Sam the man is hereMFBias Sam the man is hereMFBias Sam the man is hereMFBias Sam the man is here
Holmesdale Upper, Block N.

Floodlights: Fuking blinding my eyes, even in daytime. 0.
__________________
'The Premiership is a jungle and we're certainly starting to rumble'
Aki Riihilahti
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-12-2017, 07:29 AM
cpfc4evandeva's Avatar
cpfc4evandeva cpfc4evandeva is online now
Heshlo Kitty
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 21,481
Rep Power: 21474848
cpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is herecpfc4evandeva Sam the man is here
Floodlights are ******* terrible, still. That's from the back of block D in the Holmesdale.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-12-2017, 08:34 AM
Shipp Ahoy!'s Avatar
Shipp Ahoy! Shipp Ahoy! is online now
Millsie02
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Croydon
Age: 30
Posts: 27,798
Rep Power: 21474851
Shipp Ahoy! Sam the man is hereShipp Ahoy! Sam the man is hereShipp Ahoy! Sam the man is hereShipp Ahoy! Sam the man is hereShipp Ahoy! Sam the man is hereShipp Ahoy! Sam the man is hereShipp Ahoy! Sam the man is hereShipp Ahoy! Sam the man is hereShipp Ahoy! Sam the man is hereShipp Ahoy! Sam the man is hereShipp Ahoy! Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Balls View Post
Bore off.
Brilliant response to the club trying to sort a long standing problem that many moan about!

__________________
I'm Palace till I die! I'm Palace till I die! I know I am, I'm sure I am, I'm Palace till I die!!!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-12-2017, 09:56 AM
ForzaPalace's Avatar
ForzaPalace ForzaPalace is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 8,674
Rep Power: 21474845
ForzaPalace Sam the man is hereForzaPalace Sam the man is hereForzaPalace Sam the man is hereForzaPalace Sam the man is hereForzaPalace Sam the man is hereForzaPalace Sam the man is hereForzaPalace Sam the man is hereForzaPalace Sam the man is hereForzaPalace Sam the man is hereForzaPalace Sam the man is hereForzaPalace Sam the man is here
Mr Park has left the stadium
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-12-2017, 09:58 AM
tasty_snacks's Avatar
tasty_snacks tasty_snacks is offline
100% behind SP
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Beckenham
Age: 35
Posts: 10,202
Rep Power: 21474850
tasty_snacks Sam the man is heretasty_snacks Sam the man is heretasty_snacks Sam the man is heretasty_snacks Sam the man is heretasty_snacks Sam the man is heretasty_snacks Sam the man is heretasty_snacks Sam the man is heretasty_snacks Sam the man is heretasty_snacks Sam the man is heretasty_snacks Sam the man is heretasty_snacks Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Balls View Post
Bore off.
Proof that every club harbours dickheads.

CJP - thanks for trying to get constructive feedback. I'll try to remember to post FB after the next two matches.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-12-2017, 10:16 AM
EdMan's Avatar
EdMan EdMan is offline
Troublemaker
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Oblivia
Posts: 5,427
Rep Power: 21474853
EdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Balls View Post
Bore off.
Take your own advice, moron....
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-12-2017, 10:18 AM
EdMan's Avatar
EdMan EdMan is offline
Troublemaker
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Oblivia
Posts: 5,427
Rep Power: 21474853
EdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is hereEdMan Sam the man is here
All fine in the Lower Whitehorse apart from the sound system which is rubbish.

The rear facing led advertising hoardings are irritating, but rarely notice them now.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-12-2017, 10:19 AM
Nelson Muntz's Avatar
Nelson Muntz Nelson Muntz is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: ME10
Posts: 19,687
Rep Power: 21474852
Nelson Muntz Sam the man is hereNelson Muntz Sam the man is hereNelson Muntz Sam the man is hereNelson Muntz Sam the man is hereNelson Muntz Sam the man is hereNelson Muntz Sam the man is hereNelson Muntz Sam the man is hereNelson Muntz Sam the man is hereNelson Muntz Sam the man is hereNelson Muntz Sam the man is hereNelson Muntz Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonewall View Post
Ok. In The Whitehorse end, Too Loud And Harsh sounding!
in my opinion. (Row S right at the back).
Too true.

Season so far:
Stand: Whitehorse
Block:
Row: P
Loudness: Too loud
Clarity: Too loud to comment
Floodlights: ok
Stand lights: Far too bright.
__________________
I LOVE YOU JULIAN !!!

Described by CPFC2010 as a Palace hero.

I will happily neg rep anybody who suggests the Whitehorse is made the away fans end.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-12-2017, 11:39 AM
Penstone Eagle's Avatar
Penstone Eagle Penstone Eagle is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: overlooking BHAFC's blot on the landscape
Posts: 22,414
Rep Power: 21380056
Penstone Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPenstone Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPenstone Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPenstone Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPenstone Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPenstone Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPenstone Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPenstone Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPenstone Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPenstone Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietPenstone Eagle came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quality seems to vary in the upper tier. All or nothing.
__________________


Never let children play with fireworks and flares
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-12-2017, 11:48 AM
Dj 784's Avatar
Dj 784 Dj 784 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Croydon
Posts: 407
Rep Power: 3433525
Dj 784 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineDj 784 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineDj 784 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineDj 784 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineDj 784 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineDj 784 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineDj 784 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineDj 784 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineDj 784 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineDj 784 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineDj 784 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Stand: Whitehorse
Block:
Row: A
Loudness: too loud
Clarity: ok
Floodlights: Bit too bright
Stand lights: fine
__________________
Crystal Ball winner 2015/16, runner up 2016/17

Member of the Jordan Mutch fan club.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-12-2017, 11:52 AM
dave_who_ru's Avatar
dave_who_ru dave_who_ru is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: South London la la la
Posts: 8,599
Rep Power: 17013063
dave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietdave_who_ru came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
It would seem people don’t understand the scoring system for the floodlights and lighting. In fact the whole scoring probably needs revising. Having a score of 5 for too loud and 5 for crystal clear doesn’t make sense.

As I’m away in Germany for the Bournemouth match and travelling back for the Watford match my scores are 0 for sound and clarity in the Lower Holmesdale, Block C, back row. It has been like this for years. No problem with the floodlights or lighting.
__________________
Also Michael Hughes a f*****g 87 year old journeyman showed Garcia, Pongolle, Potter, Kewell and Cisse how to play in a wide position, he took the p**s out of us tonight.

LFC fansite
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-12-2017, 11:57 AM
liberal clubber's Avatar
liberal clubber liberal clubber is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,186
Rep Power: 9913440
liberal clubber came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietliberal clubber came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietliberal clubber came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietliberal clubber came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietliberal clubber came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietliberal clubber came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietliberal clubber came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietliberal clubber came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietliberal clubber came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietliberal clubber came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietliberal clubber came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Stand: arfur
Block:v
Row: 25
Loudness: too loud, i want to talk to mates and cant very annoying
Clarity: ok
Floodlights: Bit too bright
Stand lights: fine
__________________
FFS Murray!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-12-2017, 03:35 PM
Ooh Betty Ooh Betty is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Penge
Age: 54
Posts: 527
Rep Power: 4182283
Ooh Betty has got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose!Ooh Betty has got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose!Ooh Betty has got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose!Ooh Betty has got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose!Ooh Betty has got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose!Ooh Betty has got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose!Ooh Betty has got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose!Ooh Betty has got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose!Ooh Betty has got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose!Ooh Betty has got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose!Ooh Betty has got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose!
Can't hear it above that poxy drum
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.