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Very persuasive argument.
Convinced me.

Context is important though. You have to take into account which pant wetting Brexshitter he was replying to.
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I think he is posting about people like you on the left , We had a democratic vote in June 2016 and you still want to reverse it , Hardly respecting the ballot box is it ?
I know he is posting about people on the left.

I want another democratic vote now that everyone knows far more than we did back in June 2016, about the actual consequences of leaving, i.e. not forecasts and projections, just what has transpired since. This is no different to having another general election, like the one that was called by May before the five year term was up, in 2017.

What is wrong with you?

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Anyway, after a short furtive sneak at your post, you go back on ignore in good time.
"Back on ignore" snigger, sure.
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Convinced me.

Context is important though. You have to take into account which pant wetting Brexshitter he was replying to.
Er is it SE25 ??
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I know he is posting about people on the left.

I want another democratic vote now that everyone knows far more than we did back in June 2016, about the actual consequences of leaving, i.e. not forecasts and projections, just what has transpired since. This is no different to having another general election, like the one that was called by May before the five year term was up, in 2017.

What is wrong with you?

Note: It seems that you don't class yourself as being on the "left" anymore, so at least you are now an honest turncoat. Anyway, after a short furtive sneak at your post, you go back on ignore in good time.
We now know hennessy is shit , get on the phone and demand a replay you stupid kid ..
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We now know hennesy is shit , get on the phone and demand a replay you stupid kid ..
Wow! What an analogy. Now I completely understand what you understand about democracy. Thank you.
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I know he is posting about people on the left.

I want another democratic vote now that everyone knows far more than we did back in June 2016, about the actual consequences of leaving, i.e. not forecasts and projections, just what has transpired since. This is no different to having another general election, like the one that was called by May before the five year term was up, in 2017.

What is wrong with you?

Note: It seems that you don't class yourself as being on the "left" anymore, so at least you are now an honest turncoat. Anyway, after a short furtive sneak at your post, you go back on ignore in good time.
No I am on the real democratic left , The type who respects others votes be they on the left , right or in the middle , Unlike you and other remoaners who are on the Totalitarian left that want to enforce their views and banned anyone or anything that disagrees with their beliefs , In a way your support for Virgins and Branson banning of the DM over it's editorial beliefs highlights your Totalitarianism perfectly .
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:13 AM
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Virgin sell 70 copies of the Mail a day (according to the Mail). So commercially it was pretty shite for them too. But that's not why they have withdrawn it. They’ve withdrawn it because it is a vile rag (though clearly they’ve phrased it slightly more democratically).

And it still isn’t censorship, you want to see censorship trying going to a place that genuinely has censorship. The Mail is free to publish, people are free to distribute if if they want to. Virgin don’t want to. That’s it. 70 readers a day will have to pick up thier copies from WH Smith’s at the station.

If anything I imagine they’ve withdrawn it for publicity reasons because the Mail is basically Donald Trump. A lot of people like it but far more people despise it. Virgin make nothing by having it available on their trains but if they can get a load of idiots the Mail and it’s readership all het up and going on about censorship then all of a sudden it’s front page news.

No, its clearly censorship, your post describes just that despite your attempt at a denial. Its true at 70 copies why bother but as you say that's not the reason they give.

I find it bizarre that a private company should seek to control the opinions of its customers by banning a mainstream publication, no platforming on the railways, who knew. It just brings to the surface the tyranny of the modern liberal.

I suspect it will misfire a bit like the BBC banning a record, people will be curious to see what they are being denied.


PS. I wonder what Virgin staff think about nationalising the railways?

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Old 10-01-2018, 10:19 AM
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If you're saying that it's censorship from Virgin not to have the mail for sale and an attack on Free Speech, why is the Mail not having more divergent writers and covering ALL points of view in its paper censorship and an attack on free speech?

The papers have no remit to present all pov's they appeal to a particular audience.

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Wow! What an analogy. Now I completely understand what you understand about democracy. Thank you.
It's se 25 you need to be saying that to ..we voted , remain lost.. The undemocratic left have a real problem with this ..suck it up and get on with it springs to mind , the same way those who voted leave would have had to had they lost . That's democracy !
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No I am on the real democratic left
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It's se 25 you need to be saying that to ..we voted , remain lost.. The undemocratic left have a real problem with this ..suck it up and get on with it springs to mind , the same way those who voted leave would have had to had they lost . That's democracy !
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The papers have no remit to present all pov's they appeal to a particular audience.

Leftist, Guardian, Indy, Socialist Worker, Morning Star (is that still going), Mirror, etc.

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Are there really people who think the Guardian and Indy are leftist?

Are there really people who think the Morning Star, Socialist Worker are newspapers?

You couldn't make it up
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No, its clearly censorship, your post describes just that despite your attempt at a denial. Its true at 70 copies why bother but as you say that's not the reason they give.

I find it bizarre that a private company should seek to control the opinions of its customers by banning a mainstream publication, no platforming on the railways, who knew. It just brings to the surface the tyranny of the modern liberal.

I suspect it will misfire a bit like the BBC banning a record, people will be curious to see what they are being denied.


PS. I wonder what Virgin staff think about nationalising the railways?

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As a private company, Virgin are perfectly entitled to sell or not sell whatever they like on their services. Nothing to do with censorship.

As for nationalisation, another thread for your point is more appropriate.
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We now know hennessy is shit , get on the phone and demand a replay you stupid kid ..
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