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Old 14-11-2012, 03:38 PM
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Heavy bombing in Gaza right now. Wonder if this is a big one
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The cynic in me thinks this is an attempt to derail the UN bid by the Palestinians.
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Trying to scare hamas whilst not wanting the PA to get UN acceptance seems a bizarre approach.
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The cynic in me says there's an Israeli election coming up, and a Hamas retaliation would allow Netanyahu some good "we must stand together" type speeches. Having so openly backed Romney he's a bit vulnerable, and has taken some flack at home.

Edit: Al-jazeera just agreed with me Clearly, I should apply for a role as a presenter.
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Its a real screw you to Egypt (and Turkey and Qatar) who've been doing so much work to get Hamas to change their ways and splinter from Iran. And it can't help matters in Jordan if there is major loss of life. King Abdullah is open to attack on Israel even when he is strong and right now he is weak. Then when you throw in how Syria is starting to unsettle Lebanon and how Hezbollah could feel pressure to act from there base if casualties mount in Palestine its a real risk. And the Palestinian UN bid coming up too. Could create sympathy
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BBC reporting that the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood saying that they will not let the Palastinian people be subjected to Israeli aggression.

To put the otherside of this particular incident there has been a significant increase of rocket attacks into Israel over the last few days so these attacks this afternoon are not seen in isolation but its very obvious that this is a serious upsurge in violence in the region.

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Yup.

Looks like Hamas are being as opportunistic as Netanyahu.
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Hamas have confirmed that Israel has "opened gates of hell" now.
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Been reading claims that a ground invasion of Gaza by the IDF is imminent.
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Three dead two already identified one was the military leader of Hamas the other another Hamas leader travelling in same car. The other targets are rocket and arm dumps. The arguement from Israel being 110 rockets aimed at Israel in recent weeks is enough.
For the sake of peace someone has to take a stand, Hamas by attacking is just going to strengthen the election of Netenhayu, that will weaken any chance of concessions from Israel. Israel by retaliating is. just going to strengthen the military side of Hamas its a circle and those pulling the strings on both sides have nothing to lose. For it to stop then one side has to hold back not as a sign of weakness buyt strength really want to bring peace to the region. Stop both sides and those outside pulling strings for political. purposes and their own gains.
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How many israelis were killed by those rocket attacks?
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A state of emergency has been declared in Gaza's hospitals, which are already running out of blood.

The Ministry of Education and Higher Education declare the suspension of classes in schools and universities in Gaza till further notice.
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For the sake of peace someone has to take a stand, Hamas by attacking is just going to strengthen the election of Netenhayu, that will weaken any chance of concessions from Israel. Israel by retaliating is. just going to strengthen the military side of Hamas its a circle and those pulling the strings on both sides have nothing to lose. For it to stop then one side has to hold back not as a sign of weakness buyt strength really want to bring peace to the region. Stop both sides and those outside pulling strings for political. purposes and their own gains.
Why would Hamas or Netanyahoo be interested in peace? That's the last thing they want. Both would lose power.
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How many israelis were killed by those rocket attacks?
And your point is that Humus are shit at killing people with rockets??
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And your point is that Humus are shit at killing people with rockets??
Was he making a point? Maybe he was. I just thought it was an honest question!

Was anyone killed though? I have no idea.
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And your point is that Humus are shit at killing people with rockets??
That wouldn't be the point, I guess.

It might be that the Hamas rockets are old technology and Israel is protected by, and uses aggressively, the very newest (which, for instance, brought the rockets down).

In that sense it's not exactly an equal contest. But of course Israel will never ever win this war until they want to stop it.
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And your point is that Humus are shit at killing people with rockets??
But very useful as a party dip.
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The rockets is a red herring always trotted out to enable the systematic murder of palestinians and thge destruction of their already broken infrastructure.

The disgusting thing is the rest of the world doing nothing to stop it.
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The rockets is a red herring always trotted out to enable the systematic murder of palestinians .
And theres me thinking it was done to antagonise and bait the Israelis.
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