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View Poll Results: Man of the Match
Speroni 31 7.60%
Kelly *** 0 0%
Schlupp 15 3.68%
Dann 3 0.74%
Tomkins 119 29.17%
Cabaye * 9 2.21%
Milivojevic 31 7.60%
Loftus-Cheek ** 5 1.23%
Townsend 69 16.91%
Benteke 7 1.72%
Zaha 113 27.70%
* McArthur 3 0.74%
** Sako 3 0.74%
*** Fosu-Mensah 0 0%
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Old 28-12-2017, 10:31 PM
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Struggled when Cabaye went off but another strong finish. Deserved a point I thought.
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Gave it a really good go tonight, no shame in that performance. Benteke needs more quality service. Tomkins is playing well at the moment. Thought Sako did well when he came on, good energy.
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Sat off them far too much..

Only created stuff when wilf went wide.

Wilf and Townsend need to cross when they get chance rather try beating a player over and over.

Deliveries were poor today.

Shame we sat off then so much especially in first half. As soon as we went at them, closed them down we scored.. then sat back again.

Do that against city and we will lose 5-0
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Better keeper better result.
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Of all the problems tonight, Jules was not one of them. He was our best player.

For some reason we lacked belief, although clearly Arsenal are the better team.
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Thought we were off the pace first half and lucky it was only one. Much better 2nd half and could have nicked a point
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Thought Andros played well tonight, defensively was good as well as going forward.
Wilf amazing as ever but had a quiet first half.
Back four struggled with Arsenal, none of them played well.
Cabaye played well was a shame to see him go off so early.
Luka has an off night, so many poor balls forward that didn’t go anywhere.
RLC looks good when he cuts in from the right. Such and elegant footballer.
Benteke didnt really get the service, so many of our crosses never made it past the first man. Best cross of the night was Sako’s for wilfs miss.
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They were much too good for us tonight. To get something against Arsenal you’ve got to put their defenders under pressure. We sat back and allowed them to pick their passes. Yes, we had our chances, but they turned the screw when they wanted.

To win we had to be at our best. Certain players made too many mistakes & as a result we got punished. If you allow them that much possession you are asking for trouble - and we did!
We needed to work harder off the ball as a team.
Not the end of the world, but with City on Sunday, we could have done with getting something out of the game. We can play better than we did tonight, and we are certainly going to have to.
Some might be happy only to lose by the odd goal, but I think we got our tactics wrong tonight. A little disappointed to be honest!
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Jules 7 - when you can’t hold the ball a parry is rolling the dice... Dann or the forward arsenal dude could have got a touch to the first goal from arsenal so jules was committed late.. never a catch. In a parry you put it at the tightest angle from the goal as far as you can.. he did! It’s rolling the dice and minimising odds of it falling to a goal scoring chance.. it did and they took it. Nothing wrong with jules there. Same with the other two. Did everything expected and an excellent save one on one in the first half. He was good

Kelly 5.5 - ok given the opposition. Let Sanchez get away a few times second half

Tomkins 7.5 - odd mistake but he and Dann generally solid again

Dann 7 - as above less the goal. Solid partnership that

Schlupp 6.5 - played ok given How exposed he was while Ruben was on. Poor header for the goal though

Townsend 7.5 - motm excellent at helping Kelly with Sanchez and the lwb first half. A threat on the break and good finish

Luka 7.5 - did well in attack and defence

Cabaye 7 - as for Luka. Hopefully not injured

Ruben 6 - dangerous runs at times, could have some better a few times. Left schlupp on his own far too much. Needs to work on the defensive side because he’s a passenger out of posession far too often

Jimmy 6.5 - the energy and allround performance we were missing. Better at the back and much quicker getting forward to support attacks, especially runs into the area

Zaha 7.5 - very frustrated first half and not sure it was worth the tantrum or the card. Needs to complain and question but then walk away and started stropping more recently. Yes he’s hard done by at times but won’t let it go. Very dangerous at times though, especially second half

Benteke 6 - no service. None at all. Decent hold up play. Clearance for the goal was poor but right idea as zaha was away with the right ball. It was a miskick same as every other player managed at some point in the game.. this one was punished

We were ok. Arsenal were very good at times and they are an excellent side RNS right they are. We scared them but we’re punished by quality. No shame, no panic
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Of all the problems tonight, Jules was not one of them. He was our best player.

For some reason we lacked belief, although clearly Arsenal are the better team.
How on earth was Speroni our best player?

Should have done far better for the 1st goal
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Should have done far better for the 1st goal

Disagree. The defending was appalling leaving their centre back free at the far stick. He also kept us in the game to be able to equalise.
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Townsend, Zaha and Tomkins were our best players tonight.
Luka gave the ball away time after time.
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Arsenal decided to play well today and their defense was very solid. We lost the midfield for most of the match.

Speroni 6 - made 2 or 3 good saves, but if only he had done better on 1 or 2 of the goals.
Kelly 6 - struggled, but never gave up.
Dann 6 - reasonable
Tomkin 7 - Best defender again. First goal of the season from set peice.
Shlupp - 6 - poor distribution/decisions when near the oppos goal.
Cabaye 6 - Hopefully he will be fit for the Soton game.
Luka 7 - solid game.
Andros 7 - better game from him and good goal
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Benteke 5 - struggled all game. little service.
Wilf 6 - They knew how to frustrate him, but still couldnt stop him completely.

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MacA 6 - worked hard.
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Speroni 5 - want to see first goal again.. the shot looked pretty central and at good height for him so think he could of done better. 3rd goal he took forever to come out.
Kelly 4 - crap. Weak for 2nd. Shouldn’t be losing out to Sanchez in air
Dann 5 - passing abysmal
Tomkins 7 - solid again
Schlupp 6 - did ok.. never seen someone slice a ball so much in my life. Poor clearance for first goal

Townsend 6 - good finish.. worked hard.. few times he could of crossed but tried to take another man on and lost it
Cabaye 7 - everywhere.
Luka 7 - solid
RLC 6 - in an doit if the game. Looked good at start of second half

Wilf 6 - frustrated me tonight. He is wasted as a striker. However so many times tonight he just done one thing too Much and lost it when he had chance to get cross in. His tantrum towards ref at halftime was stupid aswel.
Benteke 6 - lovely hold up play for first goal spreading it out to RLC (or schlupp can’t remember). Good hold up play, poor clearance for their second. No service

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Sako 6 - ran about, made a nuisance, missed two good chance
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I thought their opening goal was an excellent finish for a centre half. Made a difficult chance look easy. Andros my man of the match but Tomkins had a decent game despite us shipping three goals.
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Townsend for me. Grafted as usual, great movement and strike and worked hard in defence, a few times stealing the ball when he had no right to.

Another strong performance from Tomkins too.
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