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Old 20-04-2017, 04:58 PM
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And what do you think a lot of them might then chose to do?
That's different. British doctors and nurses choosing to go and work abroad are following their dreams.

Johnny foriegner doctors and nurses coming here are abandoning their compatriots who need them most. We must help them to do what's right by telling them to **** off
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Old 20-04-2017, 05:03 PM
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As a passing note, I saw UKIP's election advert yesterday. I actually LOL'd when that lady started talking about Council's not giving us value for money and then going on to say that road maintenance and eradicating pot holes was a priority, and UKIP would ensure council money is spent on it.

I would have thought the social care issue would be top of that sort of list, but who am I to question these political inspirations.
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Old 20-04-2017, 05:13 PM
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Would highly recommend a watch of this in regards to immigration
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Old 20-04-2017, 05:18 PM
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I was merely putting to bed another grauniad scare story re the numbers of EU nurses in the NHS leaving and putting it in perspective. But you knew that.

Re your 24000 unfilled posts Google is your friend (you need em) But to help you some of the way. Do the rest yourself.

NHS spends huge sums on foreign nurses, yet two thirds of local applicants are rejected.
Maybe the European nurses are better qualified
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Old 20-04-2017, 05:20 PM
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Maybe the European nurses are better qualified
Possibly. Hard to understand the point Biggot is making.
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Old 20-04-2017, 05:21 PM
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Would highly recommend a watch of this in regards to immigration
It's utterly bonkers. The case for immigration isn't "to solve world poverty". The case for immigration in most countries is that it drives economic growth. Countries are helping themselves, not world poverty. In the UK we want their taxes to pay our pensions.

What a loon.
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Nearly 14,000 nurses alone. Where I come from 14,000 is not "very few".
We have more people wanting to be trained to be a Nurse than training places.. Only 4% of nurses are from the EU.
Maybe we need to invest in our workforce more... Which is a familiar story.

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Old 20-04-2017, 05:39 PM
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We should indeed spend more on training our young people in vocational skills but that costs money and in Britain it's all about the finance industry.
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Old 20-04-2017, 05:45 PM
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I'm going for the pro weed and anti-brexit goons.

Though it won't make a bean of difference as this constituency is as blue as a Keith Richards bender.
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We have more people wanting to be trained to be a Nurse than training places.. Only 4% of nurses are from the EU.
Maybe we need to invest in our workforce more... Which is a familiar story.
That is a truly terrifying figure given we are in the EU!
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Old 20-04-2017, 05:50 PM
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Nearly 14,000 nurses alone. Where I come from 14,000 is not "very few".
It is in the context of the NHS.....
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Old 20-04-2017, 05:53 PM
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We should indeed spend more on training our young people in vocational skills but that costs money and in Britain it's all about the finance industry.
The government is making year on year budget cuts to training. The BIS takes a massive hit every year. Contracts are given out to chums of our MP's.

There's no funding for adults who had unidentified learning difficulties in school.

There's no investment in provisions for diagnosing and treating mental health issues.

There's no support for the thousands that have been mentally crippled by long term unemployment.

Not directed at you, but I don't understand those who keep saying we need to train up our own society without acknowledging our own government is crippling us. And then to go vote Tory on top, while wanting the above.
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That is a truly terrifying figure given we are in the EU!
Isn't it approximately where it should be? Why is it terrifying?
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The government is making year on year budget cuts to training. The BIS takes a massive hit every year. Contracts are given out to chums of our MP's.

There's no funding for adults who had unidentified learning difficulties in school.

There's no investment in provisions for diagnosing and treating mental health issues.

There's no support for the thousands that have been mentally crippled by long term unemployment.

Not directed at you, but I don't understand those who keep saying we need to train up our own society without acknowledging our own government is crippling us. And then to go vote Tory on top, while wanting the above.
Good post.

How long precisely will it take for the UK population to understand that the current government has no interest whatsoever in investing in public services and that the loss in tax revenues caused by Brexit will only make matters worse.

Time to make this election a Brexit reversal at all costs.
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It is in the context of the NHS.....
Your NHS maybe, but not mine.
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Old 20-04-2017, 06:15 PM
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The government is making year on year budget cuts to training. The BIS takes a massive hit every year. Contracts are given out to chums of our MP's.

There's no funding for adults who had unidentified learning difficulties in school.

There's no investment in provisions for diagnosing and treating mental health issues.

There's no support for the thousands that have been mentally crippled by long term unemployment.

Not directed at you, but I don't understand those who keep saying we need to train up our own society without acknowledging our own government is crippling us. And then to go vote Tory on top, while wanting the above.
Sadly, I think that people are engulfed with their own problems. Outside the public sector, a few utilities and some big corporations the numbers with decent pensions, job protections, sick pay and paid holidays is falling fast. People in precarious occupations are just one bad back or lost contract from financial disaster. So if they earn money they want to put it aside for a rainy day not pay more tax. Unfortunately when they themselves need support it won't be there. Labour has to convince that they will raise the money to pay for more social care and spend it on front line care. If they can do that then they should be in with a good shout.
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The government is making year on year budget cuts to training. The BIS takes a massive hit every year. Contracts are given out to chums of our MP's.



There's no funding for adults who had unidentified learning difficulties in school.



There's no investment in provisions for diagnosing and treating mental health issues.



There's no support for the thousands that have been mentally crippled by long term unemployment.



Not directed at you, but I don't understand those who keep saying we need to train up our own society without acknowledging our own government is crippling us. And then to go vote Tory on top, while wanting the above.

Yep.
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Isn't it approximately where it should be? Why is it terrifying?
It means 96% of nurses are from non-EU countries.
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Does the figure include agency workers?
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Good post.

How long precisely will it take for the UK population to understand that the current government has no interest whatsoever in investing in public services and that the loss in tax revenues caused by Brexit will only make matters worse.

Time to make this election a Brexit reversal at all costs.
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Speaking after a meeting with the prime minister in Downing Street, Antonio Tajani insisted that her triggering of the departure process last month could be reversed easily by the remaining EU members if there was a change of UK government after the general election, and that it would not even require a court case.

“If the UK, after the election, wants to withdraw [article 50], then the procedure is very clear,” he said in an interview. “If the UK wanted to stay, everybody would be in favour. I would be very happy.”
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