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Old 19-05-2017, 10:44 AM
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Dunno why people stras over wages etc.. I we sign him then SP and co would have done the maths and we would be able to afford him.

He would be an excellent addiction. Defoe and benteke are two top class strikers... we wouldn't be short of goals
We are going to need much more mobile midfielders if we are going to play with 442. There won't be much pace as well with them two up front.
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Old 19-05-2017, 10:49 AM
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We can pay someone 100k/week, but only if they are a regular starter. Wages are more important than transfer fees for FFP. Would rather we looked elsewhere.
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OK, he is demanding 100k per week = wages.

As a "free", he is seeking the 6m as a "signing-on fee". How does FFP view such shenanigans? Does that also count as wages? If it doesn't, why can't we pay everyone 40k a week plus "signing on fee"?
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Old 19-05-2017, 11:39 AM
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We are going to need much more mobile midfielders if we are going to play with 442. There won't be much pace as well with them two up front.
Not suggesting we play 4-4-2 tbh.. but I agree with your point
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Old 19-05-2017, 11:59 AM
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6m and 100k a week? Will be 35 in Oct?

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Old 19-05-2017, 12:24 PM
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For the right price he's a no brainer. Would be superb in a two with benteke and excellent as a lone striker.

There lies the problem, for the right price he'd be a no brainer for most sides in the league so that drives up the price until he's not the right prove for most.

With the sam factor I'd say we have a decent chance but not for outrageous money.

Not paying much attention to figures right now though, that'll be agent saying they want x amount to see if anyone goes for it. Then negotiations start.. faith in parish not to get it wrong
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Old 19-05-2017, 12:45 PM
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Folks getting in a flap because of his age. How old was Kevin Phillips when he scored that winning pen? How old Is Ibrahimovic? Unless they are crocks, players look after themselves these days. Defoe is one who still looks as fit as a fiddle and still has a burst of pace. And more importantly knows where the goal is.

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Old 19-05-2017, 01:14 PM
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If only to stop him scoring against us. I'm sure he does every time.
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Old 19-05-2017, 01:20 PM
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I think he may well be still able to do a good job at this level, but I think any club would have to be stupid or desperate to offer him more than a one year deal. I know Kevin Phillips carried on until he was pushing 40, but he wasn't playing in the Premier League at that age.
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Old 19-05-2017, 01:23 PM
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18 goals last year.. 16 this year.. both in a horrendous Sunderland team
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Old 19-05-2017, 01:24 PM
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I think he may well be still able to do a good job at this level, but I think any club would have to be stupid or desperate to offer him more than a one year deal. I know Kevin Phillips carried on until he was pushing 40, but he wasn't playing in the Premier League at that age.
But defoe is not 40. He has never been injured and still has his burst of pace. Also all those loose balls that we never pick up in the box that frustrates the life out of us. DEFOE THRIVES OFF THOSE.
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I rate him highly of course and he is more than just a proven top level goalscorer, he can link in others very well and holds the ball up surprisingly well for a small attacker
I would still prefer we didnt go down this qpr type route but wouldnt mind it if was just for one year
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Old 19-05-2017, 01:32 PM
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OK, he is demanding 100k per week = wages.

As a "free", he is seeking the 6m as a "signing-on fee". How does FFP view such shenanigans? Does that also count as wages? If it doesn't, why can't we pay everyone 40k a week plus "signing on fee"?
Signing on fees would be spread out over the contract (assuming all is above board).

So the hit for FFP would be around 138k a week rather than 100k, if he signed on a three-year deal. Total outlay of 21.5M.

Of course, just because he apparently wants a 6m signing-on fee, doesn't mean there's any clubs willing to pay it.
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Old 19-05-2017, 01:47 PM
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I think Defoe is overhyped by the media , they constantly bang on about it when he scores a goal, we have made enough mistakes with past it players , Adebayor, Remy, we need a transfer policy and stick to it maybe a couple of marquee signings each year and then ample cover in key areas and a few utility players, most important athleticism and a good age with resale value. spending the kind of money reported would be obscene.
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Thinking about the cost / value

Defoe -- 16 mill over 2 seasons
Mutch - 16 mill over 4 seasons

I believe Remy cost us 7million for one season (3mill loan fee and 4mill wages)

Defoe looking pretty good by this
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He'll want to start most games, and may need to in his latter years. I think I'd rather get a younger prospect on less wages for a longer contract. He's class, but those wages...
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I think Defoe is overhyped by the media , they constantly bang on about it when he scores a goal, we have made enough mistakes with past it players , Adebayor, Remy, we need a transfer policy and stick to it maybe a couple of marquee signings each year and then ample cover in key areas and a few utility players, most important athleticism and a good age with resale value. spending the kind of money reported would be obscene.
You can't Defoe with the useless Remy and Adebayor. Defoe is far superior - and for a start he tends to remain fit. He's been brilliant in a terrible Sunderland team.
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