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Old 22-10-2014, 03:39 PM
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iTunes 12 - Warning!

Do NOT upgrade, if like most sensible, level headed, people you value the sidebar.

Apple doesn't like the sidebar and in the last release (before today) it was hidden, but most of us discovered that you could reinstate it by clicking on 'View' then 'Show Sidebar'. However, I made the mistake of 'upgrading' to iTunes 12 this morning, without seeing any of the warnings posted in the forums (and there are many) and the side bar has been removed permanently.

Apple do a lot right, but their pig-headed, arrogant, attitude that they know best and the User has to accept whatever Apple decides is quite wrong.

Fortunately, I had saved a version of iTunes 11, so I uninstalled this latest monstrosity and reverted. Anyone else doing that will need to take care, because you do get an error to the effect that the file Itunes Library.itl 'cannot be read as it was created by a later version of iTunes', but this is easily fixed by replacing the file (located in Windows 7 machines in [Libraries] Music/iTunes) with one of the backup versions in the folder 'Previous iTunes Libraries'.

My advice - do NOT 'upgrade'.
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Old 22-10-2014, 03:50 PM
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I like it. It's not like it's hard to locate Playlists, Store, Films, Podcasts etc.
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It is the biggest pile of shite ever.
I didn't think it was possible to worse than the last one but I was wrong.

The lack of copy and paste facility on album covers is bonkers and the whole process of naming tracks has been slowed right down. The look of it is horrible and the still haven't reinstated cover flow or full screen album cover view.

Utter crap.
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Old 22-10-2014, 09:00 PM
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I like it. It's not like it's hard to locate Playlists, Store, Films, Podcasts etc.
It isn't - but what's wrong with wanting them all in the same place?

I like to drag and drop my 'music' (mainly news and comedy shows) into Playlists - and that's far more difficult with the new layout.

The new iTunes is horrible. Why do Apple have to 'fix' things that are not broken?
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I wouldn't be surprised if the music publishers/movie studios aren't behind it.
It seems to me each iteration of iTunes is changed to make it evermore only compatible with stuff that you buy from the iTunes store. Anything which isn't in the neat package as purchased from the store is more and more difficult to handle with each iteration.

However, James, you can still drag and drop to create a playlist. If you chose file>new>playlist the sidebar comes back and you can drag and drop songs/podcasts etc into the new playlist in the sidebar.
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However, James, you can still drag and drop to create a playlist. If you chose file>new>playlist the sidebar comes back and you can drag and drop songs/podcasts etc into the new playlist in the sidebar.
I know that - but it really isn't the same. I don't want a separate sidebar just for for podcasts - I want everything in one place.
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itunes has always been shit.
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There are quite a few alternatives out there but my main concerns are backing up my iphone and ipad and updating device software on these alternatives. As my work installs profiles that disable iCloud to allow me to use work email on them I need 'physical' backups.
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You clearly have never used Windows ME. Apple have a long way to go before they match that abomination.
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Am a big Mac fan and I agree to some extent with James. I find the updates are rather arbitrary and I think Apple could do more to explain the how's and why's.
I was very irritated the last time the sidebar disappeared (10 to 11?), and there does seem an anti sidebar agenda.
However, I like the updated look, the change in icon to red and now I have a sidebar - all seems fine.
Temporarily irritating rather than a show stopper.
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I dont seem to be having any issues with it... (yet)

But there again I rarely use podcasts.

Yet to need to create a playlist! But from what you've said James, I cant do this via drag and drop which is madness!
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You clearly have never used Windows ME. Apple have a long way to go before they match that abomination.
Worse than Vista?

But the thing about MS is at least they give you a choice. I'm getting a new office PC today : and I guess I now have no choice about which version of Itunes I must download (as well as going through the whole process of transference because I am not allowed to sync from more than one computer).
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