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View Poll Results: As of 05/02/17 who should be first choice Goalkeeper
1 Julian Speroni 311 26.22%
13 wayne Hennessey 178 15.01%
30 Steve Mandanda 561 47.30%
Another 136 11.47%
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Zoet is very good. Just depends how quickly he can settle with the Defence.
I'm sure he is good, but we don't seem to be casting our net outside of Holland or Dutch players at the moment.
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I'm sure he is good, but we don't seem to be casting our net outside of Holland or Dutch players at the moment.
I know which isn't a surprise. Frank wanted a few at Inter but they wouldn't sanction it.
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Are we even close to signing Zoet? We are not linked with anyone!!

I hope the board have some serious rabbits up their hat like Jan..
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I'm not a fan of Hennessey, but he didn't do much wrong yesterday.

I also felt sorry for him that he was clearly very uncomfortable at passing the ball out, but he did persevere. The manager either needs to replace him or accept that Hennessey cannot use his feet like that.
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Don't think Wayne was anywhere close to biggest problem today.

He doesn't look comfortable trying to play it out, I agree with that but I kind of wish he didn't take so much flack on here every time we lose - especially when the likes of Luka, Dann, Jairo, Ward and, dare I say it even Wilf were all poor today.
Exactly

There's a much bigger picture than just the goalkeeper

Wilf had a poor game trying to dribble the ball into the net sometimes instead of just bloody shooting or crossing
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No goals were waynes fault perhaps a top six keeper might pull off a world class save for the third but it wasn't a goalkeeping error as such
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It's not all about the goals. It's his general play is so bang average and he never gives the Defence any confidence. Things only picked up once Sakho came in. And dare I say it when we were 5th two years ago the Defence still looked more confident in front of Alex McCarthy despite his penchant for a howler too.
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I'm not a fan of Hennessey, but he didn't do much wrong yesterday.

I also felt sorry for him that he was clearly very uncomfortable at passing the ball out, but he did persevere. The manager either needs to replace him or accept that Hennessey cannot use his feet like that.
Or his hands.
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No goals were waynes fault perhaps a top six keeper might pull off a world class save for the third but it wasn't a goalkeeping error as such
Was saveable. Not a fault but when you've watched the oppo keeper make an unbelievable save it's probably not unfair to think it would be nice for our keeper to do the same.

It's also being ignored that he should be doing better at corners. First thing he did in the game was drop a cross. It hardly inspires confidence does it? That goes to himself, the rest of the team and the crowd.
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Their second goal was a great header. But why why why did he not even attempt a dive? It looks so much worse the fact he just stood there.
Because everything he does is in slow motion! - Thinking, reacting, moving, diving, etc, etc.

With that goal, and so many others he has let in, the ball is in the net before he even starts to move for it.

Look at the difference between him and the Huddersfield keeper, whose lightning speed reaction and agility enabled him to save a similar header from Benteke.
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So if the tackels weren't made = they would have scored. Does not sound if you are pro WH.
Yep i do not rate him average keeper behind some average defenders thats being kind.
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Because everything he does is in slow motion! - Thinking, reacting, moving, diving, etc, etc.

With that goal, and so many others he has let in, the ball is in the net before he even starts to move for it.

Look at the difference between him and the Huddersfield keeper, whose lightning speed reaction and agility enabled him to save a similar header from Benteke.
Completely agree. Loads of goals he concedes he doesn't go for. That's the difference between an average keeper and a good one, they go for that ball that looks like it is in and somehow tips it around the post. Wayne doesn't do that. I would probably say 95% of saves he makes are simple ones almost straight at him.
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He never makes good saves and he's always flat footed plus he's poor in possession. How the hell haven't we signed a decent keeper? It's complacency gone mad.
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His only advantage is his height at 6ft6 yet he doesn't even come for crosses which completely neutralizes the advantage.
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His distribution yesterday was painfully slow.
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I know Hennessy is the whipping boy, I can hear everyone around me blaming him for allsorts but I don't think he was at fault for anything yesterday. In fact made a couple of decent saves.

Passing it out to Riedewald, obviously told to do it, unchallenged header, deflection from Ward and close range shot again from an unchallenged player.

It was the defenders that were at fault yesterday.
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Shay Given touting himself about on Goals on Sunday.

Martin Allen take note about how it can be done without any hint of desperation.
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He is weak - with no confidence in him - does not command his 6 yard box let alone the whole area - no command on crosses, slow and cumbersome distribution - get rid

Even the 3 blind mice could see that last season and yet no recruitment
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Shay Given touting himself about on Goals on Sunday.

Martin Allen take note about how it can be done without any hint of desperation.
Oh to have Shay Given in his pomp.
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The management have been negligent in not replacing him.Its as simple as that.......
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