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Old 18-07-2017, 04:05 PM
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Until recently mostly you heard about acid in so called honour attacks.
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Until recently mostly you heard about acid in so called honour attacks.
which is again, about control and power surely?
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Doesn't concentrated sulphuric acid corrode steel rather quickly?
Boring response I'm afraid. It will depend upon the steel grade. You'll be pleased to know that the grades of stainless steel developed to store concentrated sulphuric acid has a very low corrosion rate.
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Old 18-07-2017, 04:09 PM
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Boring response I'm afraid. It will depend upon the steel grade. You'll be pleased to know that the grades of stainless steel developed to store concentrated sulphuric acid has a very low corrosion rate.
For storage you'd certainly hope so. Though storing concentrated sulphuric acid with a load of knives would be a challenge.
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Going back to the early 80s I worked with a young lady from Hackney (I think) who had packed in a guy who wasn't happy. So he through acid in her face.
A rather dark limerick, that one.
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It's not the reason people do it. The attackers are predominantly men and the victims predominantly women. ( I think anyway from the data I read)

It's not a simple thing and there's loads of complicated reasonings for what happens but you have to break it down and look at it through all it's different guises.

Acid is accessible, easy to conceal, fairly cheap and does permanent physical and psychological damage. It's seemingly about control and a way to continue to exert violence over the person beyond the attack.

It's not surprising that it has been used in race hatred related attacks, when you break down the psychology of the substance or that is has been used against women by scorned lovers e.t.c.
So if that's the truth what's the cure? If you can detail why this happens can you suggest a way to stop it?
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Old 18-07-2017, 04:20 PM
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I don't mean to be glib, but haven't there always been 'scumbags'?

I don't think there is any more of them now than ever personally.
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Old 18-07-2017, 04:23 PM
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I don't mean to be glib, but haven't there always been 'scumbags'?

I don't think there is any more of them now than ever personally.
So then can this be blamed on austerity as per previous posts? I don't think so, I think these evil people are just evil, rich or poor.
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Old 18-07-2017, 04:29 PM
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Nothing to do with it.

It is down to the growing number of scummy people with no morals, brought up by parents with no morals. Low life scum bags who have been created over generations by families sponging and stealing.

The only thing I agree with you is that it will get worse, as the scum gets wiser and realises they can get away with more rather than less, in a country where we protect criminals and give them rights, when in fact they should be treated as the dog shite they are.

They are the first to claim benefits while others look for work, the first to go to the NHS with illness while others go to work feeling rough and the first to breed too many kids while others know how many children they can afford the time and money to support.

How anyone can turn it political I don't know. The facts are out on the street everyday and have been for decades, just open your eyes.
I wouldn't say growing number as a percentage of population tbh.

The Tories have addressed the lets have kids so we get more benefits brigade by limiting payments to two children. Over the years I've known a number of women that I referred to as baby machine guns. That seems to have slowed markedly since the limit has been brought in.

Having known some of these scumbag families (I say known not friends in any way) they all have the same MO. I would totally agree with you about the way the parents live gets imprinted on the kids. Don't work, sell drugs, Rob, steal, cheat, shop lift. etc etc.

I would say that the way these things are done evolves with time. Selling on ebay/gum tree rather than down the pub for example.

There will always be a percentage of people who would rather live this way than work.
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Don't get me started on the Hicks family, they seem like utter scum. Sod looking at that pathetic mural every day too.
Who are the Hicks family? Name rings a bell but can't remember.
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I don't mean to be glib, but haven't there always been 'scumbags'?

I don't think there is any more of them now than ever personally.
That is where you and some other posters differ to me then. I believe the number of 'scumbags' grows each and every year. I base that on what I see out and about, nothing scientific, just day to day life.

As for politics, listen I don't care if you think it is Labour or Tories fault. They have both had more than enough time and opportunities over the 40+ years I have been on the planet and none of them has done much different than the other. It is down to how people parent more than anything else. Do people parent because of how they vote or who is in 'power', do they ****. People have dropped their standards and now accept things that would never have been accepted in previous generations.

For me, a lot of people need to look at themselves and their friends and families and how they behave in everyday life and what they accept as right or wrong rather than look to blame some bloke who sits in Westminster.
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That is where you and some other posters differ to me then. I believe the number of 'scumbags' grows each and every year. I base that on what I see out and about, nothing scientific, just day to day life.

As for politics, listen I don't care if you think it is Labour or Tories fault. They have both had more than enough time and opportunities over the 40+ years I have been on the planet and none of them has done much different than the other. It is down to how people parent more than anything else. Do people parent because of how they vote or who is in 'power', do they ****. People have dropped their standards and now accept things that would never have been accepted in previous generations.

For me, a lot of people need to look at themselves and their friends and families and how they behave in everyday life and what they accept as right or wrong rather than look to blame some bloke who sits in Westminster.
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I wouldn't say growing number as a percentage of population tbh.

The Tories have addressed the lets have kids so we get more benefits brigade by limiting payments to two children. Over the years I've known a number of women that I referred to as baby machine guns. That seems to have slowed markedly since the limit has been brought in.

Having known some of these scumbag families (I say known not friends in any way) they all have the same MO. I would totally agree with you about the way the parents live gets imprinted on the kids. Don't work, sell drugs, Rob, steal, cheat, shop lift. etc etc.

I would say that the way these things are done evolves with time. Selling on ebay/gum tree rather than down the pub for example.

There will always be a percentage of people who would rather live this way than work.
Oh dear.

Really Del you are surpassing yourself.

You've noticed a marked slow down in people having kids in order to receive benefits.......since this policy was introduced .........three months ago have you?

Impressive. Very impressive. FFS.
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Who are the Hicks family? Name rings a bell but can't remember.
Drug dealing son died when the police chased his moped. They've tried to paint him as some kind of saint since. They were filmed recently on a BBC documentary trying to obstruct the police whilst they arrested some knife wielding muggers.
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Until recently mostly you heard about acid in so called honour attacks.
It seems to be where the trend started, apparently most attacks have been recorded in Newham, so maybe still an element to it.
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Don't get me started on the Hicks family, they seem like utter scum. Sod looking at that pathetic mural every day too.
The Hicks family are very much scum and revel in the fact that they are very very very slightly connected.....almost like they knew the postman that once delivered mail to the neighbour of a player
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Until recently mostly you heard about acid in so called honour attacks.
Yep it isnt solely bout kids on scooters. Check the Inner London Boroughs acid attacks
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