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Old 19-07-2017, 01:21 AM
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Are these acid attacks just completely random? It seems like a different style of attack that's never really been a widespread issue in the uk.

Stabbings have always been common, linked with muggings, crimes of passion, drunken behaviour, gangs etc which you can understand but not condone.

Random acid attacks though. It's like a simmering anger at society as opposed to singling out individuals for a specific purpose.
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Old 19-07-2017, 07:04 AM
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The Colombia approach seems an adequate response to such a terrifying crime: a minimum of 12 years behind bars and in cases where the victim is permanently disfigured, sentences can rise to 50 years.
Sounds about right to me. Especially the 50 year sentence in the case of revenge attacks against former partners.

In order to do that you need to be a particularly callous and calculating individual. As far as I'm concerned no amount of rehabilitation will ever stop that sort of person being a threat to society or those around them.
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Old 19-07-2017, 07:24 AM
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Sounds about right to me. Especially the 50 year sentence in the case of revenge attacks against former partners.
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Hmmm. So you think these crimes are worse than murder?
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Old 19-07-2017, 07:33 AM
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Old 19-07-2017, 09:01 AM
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You don't think that as you age you are becoming more judgemental and intolerant at all?

I mean, when you were younger these things probably didn't bother you as much ...
You may be right, but then again I look back at certain circumstances and I have certainly mellowed from the angry young man I was back then. My opinion when I was young was very much influenced by that of people around me, rather than as you get older I think you use a wider scope of things to consider before you make a statement on certain subjects.
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Old 19-07-2017, 09:50 AM
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You may be right, but then again I look back at certain circumstances and I have certainly mellowed from the angry young man I was back then. My opinion when I was young was very much influenced by that of people around me, rather than as you get older I think you use a wider scope of things to consider before you make a statement on certain subjects.
Sounds familiar!

I just think we have to be wary that our age, and the sensationalist media does not lead you to think things are worse than they are.

At the end of the day, most people work, most people grow up with a decent education and don't go on to mug people. There have always been criminals and lazy ****ers, but if you look at it statistically crime is generally down, and most people on benefits actually need them.
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Old 19-07-2017, 10:41 AM
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Honour attacks have been happening for years across the continents. A male dominance thing within certain communities. A scar for life to show that you have sinned so to speak. These attacks are often carried out by female family members either through cohesion or fear of retribution to themselves
Horrifically it used to be the basic oil cookers that were used. It was a big news story a few years back.
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Old 19-07-2017, 11:00 AM
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You really have to be the scum of the earth, absolute pond life filth to do this. Whoever they are I hope they are caught and given very long sentences. *****
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Old 19-07-2017, 11:01 AM
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You really have to be the scum of the earth, absolute pond life filth to do this. Whoever they are I hope they are caught and given very long sentences. *****
I wouldn't hold your breath regarding sentencing. A taxi driver was on the news the other day as the perp didn't get much of a punishment at all.
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I wouldn't hold your breath regarding sentencing. A taxi driver was on the news the other day as the perp didn't get much of a punishment at all.
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Hmmm. So you think these crimes are worse than murder?
These attacks are just as life changing as rape which has a life sentence tariff. These attacks leave people scarred as much as that but the "scars" are visible. These attacks ate hard to stop but setting examples of these scum may go some way. The pathetic govt announcing banning or controlling online knife sales just shows how clueless they are. I have several knIves in my kitchen which can do a lot of damage to someone. I bought them in a shop.
State anyone with a knife in public without a real reason will be given a minimum 10 year sentence and stick by it and same with anyone with phials of acid on them..
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Thanks for the clarification Del. Was the rest of your post made up bullshit too?
Spookily the birth rate figures are now out. Births to women under 20 are at the lowest rate since the 1930's.

You seem incapable of saying anything without adding an insult to your comment as well. Very, very sad.

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Spookily the birth rate figures are now out. Births to women under 20 are at the lowest rate since the 1930's.

You seem incapable of saying anything without adding an insult to your comment as well. Very, very sad.

It seems that no-one other than someone in your gang is allowed an opinion.

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it's intellectually lazy to say this makes your point
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it's intellectually lazy to say this makes your point
^^ because of course, it doesn't.
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it's intellectually lazy to say this makes your point
Never said it did. But it could support it. Until a study of non working parents is made we wont know for sure but I suspect this is primarily where the drop will have mostly come from.
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Never said it did. But it could support it. Until a study of non working parents is made we wont know for sure but I suspect this is primarily where the drop will have mostly come from.
People are inclined to ridicule posters who use data so badly. Which is the case here.
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Never said it did. But it could support it. Until a study of non working parents is made we wont know for sure but I suspect this is primarily where the drop will have mostly come from.
I'd argue that it's far more complex than that, I think you need to look at abortion rates also, abortions are probably more socially acceptable now than they have ever been also.

Also we largely speaking have better sex ed and awareness of disease e.t.c.

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So I'd say you're very wide of the mark, to the point there's no basis for you to reference your two claims together apart from confirmation bias. Not even the government have tried to claim what you are claiming.
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