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Old 12-09-2017, 10:19 AM
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Mr Palace has an agenda.
I've only just seen your stupid emails. How do I have an agenda? Because I have a different opinion to you? it's called an OPINION you numpty.

For the record, I don't blame the board or Delaney - I blame FDB. But I don't think the board has covered itself in glory one bit. Now, is that an agenda or an opinion?

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Old 12-09-2017, 10:20 AM
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I'm not saying this is all his fault, that would be nuts. But I doubt he made life easy for FdB.
I don't think FDB made life easy for himself. He didn't learn from his experience at Inter sadly.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:24 AM
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The players who bar Zaha have been on the whole shite for the past 20 months.
This is the mercurial talents of Martin Kelly, Damien Delaney, Chong Yong Lee, and Joel Ward we're talking about here. Artists with a football, one and all.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:26 AM
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I've only just seen your stupid emails. How do I have an agenda? Because I have a different opinion to you? it's called an OPINION you numpty.

For the record, I don't blame the board or Delaney - I blame FDB. But I don't think the board has covered itself in glory one bit. Now, is that an agenda or an opinion?

By the way, I'm Damien Delaney of course...
The fact you blame FdB when it was the board who appointed him, didn't back him and sacked him after 4 games says it all really.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:26 AM
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Blimey, it's almost as if the BBS is saying, everybody at the club from players, staff, management and board are all complete *****. I'm just waiting to hear a rumour suggesting the kids selling the programs are spitting phlegm in the middle or the bar staff are putting toenails in beer.
There is no chance the bar staff would do such a thing. The club would have to employ 50% more staff to do that. Once person to cut said toenails, another one to pour the beer, a third one to put the toenail in the beer and the fourth one to take the money.
They wouldn't even prepare properly - any decent bar staff would have a whole pile of toenails lined up next to already pulled pints just before half time.

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Old 12-09-2017, 10:28 AM
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My view on the players is that their confidence was shattered playing under Pardew when we lost so many games in that 40 odd game spell over two half seasons. They have never recovered from that. The big wins under Sam against Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool were more like old style FA Cup performances where the players lifted themselves above their usual standard because of the opposition. They still lost to Sunderland, Swansea, Burnley under Sam. My fear is that whoever comes in as manager could struggle with the current group of players. Their mentality is the issue - they seem resigned to losing in games (playing the Man U kids last season, Huddersfield, Swansea, Burnley etc). The only recent game they looked okay in was Liverpool where we could have won if Benteke puts in that sitter on 70 odd minutes.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:31 AM
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Mugged off the same players that have been in relgation battles for 4 straight seasons. We need more than just fighters like Delaney etc. as we are getting worse and worse every season with the same group.
Man management is about getting the best out of what you have got not putting them down in front of their team mates. Now some players will fight back to prove you wrong others will lose self belief. FDB new in a job had to earn respect not put players down. We have a very average bench at the moment we need all of the players ready mentally to do a job FDB failed to do this.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:32 AM
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:38 AM
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Man management is about getting the best out of what you have got not putting them down in front of their team mates. Now some players will fight back to prove you wrong others will lose self belief. FDB new in a job had to earn respect not put players down. We have a very average bench at the moment we need all of the players ready mentally to do a job FDB failed to do this.
Our bench might not look as average if the players not good enough were moved on as with most other clubs and replaced with slightly better?

How he did that is hearsay and what Palace are reporting to the media to make them look far better to the outside world. 'Hey, he was the bad guy, he was mean to X, Y, Z' .

No, words of how he did it, what he said, did, just that some players didn't like it. Making Joel Ward observe a RWB playing RWB and asking him to repeat the good and don't do the bad seems fine to me? Unless he said 'Oi Wardy, your shit at RWB, watch this kid do it better than you, hahaha, see, you couldn't control it or pass it to your team mate 5 yards away like that 7 year old can' but so far, nothing has been said about how he did anything at all, nothing, nish, nada, zip.

Sure something has gone on, but Palace planting all this smacks of covering their own failings, and no doubt paying de Boer a fat wedge to take the rap, and when the dust settles for us, and he wants a new job, he will be able to reveal his side. It's bollox.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:42 AM
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:44 AM
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The fact you blame FdB when it was the board who appointed him, didn't back him and sacked him after 4 games says it all really.
I think FDB has made a lot of bad mistakes in a short period - many of which are baffling in terms of team selection and tactical approach. And all the signs seem to point to a breakdown in the relationship between FDB and the board and FDB and a lot of the players. It's not just four games either - it's the whole of pre-season and two months where he clearly wasn't performing.

So I will back the board over FDB any day of the week - though i don't think the board are beyond criticism as they have not covered themselves in glory at all on this one.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:45 AM
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No, it isn't. And it seems to be the same name(s). I've thought for a while that certain players have too much influence.
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This is the mercurial talents of Martin Kelly, Damien Delaney, Chong Yong Lee, and Joel Ward we're talking about here. Artists with a football, one and all.
Dadaism or abstract expressionism spring to mind.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:46 AM
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Posted by Wilf last Thursday. In fairness it worked we went 4-3-3 against Burnley apparently against de Boer's wishes if media are to be believed.
Which you assume we would have been training on all week.
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Whether the players revolted or not, now this information is out the pressure is very much on them now to knuckle down and perform under the new regime. Do they have the bottle for the task? The lack of leaders in this team tells me possibly not, although they will be boosted massively when Wilf, TLC and Sakho come back.
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There is no chance the bar staff would do such a thing. The club would have to employ 50% more staff to do that. Once person to cut said toenails, another one to pour the beer, a third one to put the toenail in the beer and the fourth one to take the money.
They wouldn't even prepare properly - any decent bar staff would have a whole pile of toenails lined up next to already pulled pints just before half time.

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The (so-called) sports journos are all over Palace at the moment, in the absence of anything much else to talk about, displaying their ignorance of Palace with every line they write.
Now they've started a juicy yarn about "player power" (BTW, EVERY sacked Dutch manager blames "player power" - see van Gaal).

It's really no shock that the usual suspects on here have swallowed this crap, hook, line and sinker.
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:51 AM
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Why do people think Pardew got rid of Jedinak as soon as he could? He had a lot of influence in the dressing room and was disenchanted. Damo probably should have gone too. He certainly shouldn't have been offered a contract extension in the summer when we didn't have a manager. He's not going to feature so why extend his contract?
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