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Old 11-02-2019, 12:50 PM
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Do you not agree that it is easier to employ the Estonian worker than the Indian one?
Yes because of the visa requirement and that is why if the Estonian is qualified etc then UK benefits from being in the EU.

Also, the UK vetoed the draft EU-India trade deal because we expressly did NOT want to loosen our Indian visa requirements. WE did not.
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I am amazed that anyone would think the UK will be less discriminatory after Brexit.

The UK.

The country that refused Irish people a room to stay in because they were Irish.

The UK which deported black people who were actually given British citizenship and had indefinite leave to remain.

That UK.
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So you want to discriminate more than we are doing at the moment?
No, I'd like it to be as easy to employ a non-EU worker as it is to employ one from the EU
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I simply pointing out that the EU discriminates against workers with non-EU ethnicity and any member state must follow that rule. Outside of the EU the UK would not be so forced.
EU ethnicity, what’s that?
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:58 PM
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Old 11-02-2019, 12:59 PM
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Old 11-02-2019, 01:00 PM
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Very well. Before I was granted a visa to work in Switzerland my employers had to justify why my skills were unavailable locally - which they did. There we have an example. Interestingly around 25% of the population of that country hold non-Swiss passports.

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Bollocks.

Every country in the EU is free to set their own immigration policy outside of the EU. There is no rule or rules surrounding this.

The UK is and always has been, at full liberty to let anyone into the UK from anywhere in the world at any time.
Spot on. Also you might as well say that FOM in the U.K. is discriminatory. It is. But would rather more FOM than less.

And as you say the U.K. can take as many people as it likes from non EU countries. The amount of refugees taken has been shamefully low.

Hundreds of thousand of EU migrants will end up as a much bigger Windrush scandal as the “settled status” process will inevitably leave hundreds of thousands with no status.
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Old 11-02-2019, 01:01 PM
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No, I'd like it to be as easy to employ a non-EU worker as it is to employ one from the EU
There are two options to do this, one is to make it easier to employ non-EU nationals. The other is to make it harder to employ EU nationals.

It is frankly ridiculous to argue the system is discriminatory, and to then present a solution to the perceived discrimination of further or additional discrimination.
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Very well. Before I was granted a visa to work in Switzerland my employers had to justify why my skills were unavailable locally - which they did. There we have an example. Interestingly around 25% of the population of that country hold non-Swiss passports.

Other examples of fair immigration policies which spring to mind are New Zealand, Australia, Canada and Norway.
Seriously? Australia? The country that puts refugees in camps in other countries with huge human rights abuses in the process.
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Do you not agree that it is easier to employ the Estonian worker than the Indian one?
Is it not easier to employ a Welsh or Scottish worker than an Indian worker?
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Because the EU is failing, we want out so we don't have to bail them out.
The EU is failing no more then the UK is failing shall we get out of the UK too?
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Seriously? Australia? The country that puts refugees in camps in other countries with huge human rights abuses in the process.
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Is it not easier to employ a Welsh or Scottish worker than an Indian worker?
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No, I'd like it to be as easy to employ a non-EU worker as it is to employ one from the EU
Its been pointed out that we could do that without leaving the EU.

Sounds like you'd like it to be as hard to employ an EU worker as it is a non-EU worker
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Everybody with EU ethnicity is able to work anywhere in the EU - that's true. If you are not of EU ethnicity it is much harder to get a job within this EU. On the other hand, some countries operate a fair and transparent immigration system for anybody from any country irrespective of ethnicity. After Brexit the UK will be able to do just that. So which system is the least discriminatory?
WTF is EU ethnicity?
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What minority of voters? At the last Election there were 46.8 million people registered to vote so your 17m ARE THE MINORITY.

I see your Brexit wankfest marathon has now taken away your ability to do simple arithmetic.
"The will of less than half the electorate" or "The will of about a quarter of the population" don't quite have the same ring about them
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Very well. Before I was granted a visa to work in Switzerland my employers had to justify why my skills were unavailable locally - which they did. There we have an example. Interestingly around 25% of the population of that country hold non-Swiss passports.

Other examples of fair immigration policies which spring to mind are New Zealand, Australia, Canada and Norway.
Switzerland isn't part of the EU... and their new rule are limited

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