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Old 11-10-2017, 08:47 PM
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A team from each of Leagues B, C and D will get through to the Finals through the playoffs, so not too shabby really though.
But only three sides guaranteed not part of group A; strikes me that it reduces the unpredictability of a non group A side getting through and therefore more of the same old sides playing each other in finals each time.

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Old 11-10-2017, 09:01 PM
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But only three sides guaranteed not part of group A;
Do the maths.

24 teams in the finals, there are only 12 teams in League A, so therefore 12 teams guaranteed at the finals will be from B,C and D.
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Bigger for me is how shit will Euro 2020 be with no host country until the very final 3 matches held at Wembley!
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Bigger for me is how shit will Euro 2020 be with no host country until the very final 3 matches held at Wembley!
Its only a one off. Novelty like.

Places like Azerbaijan Hungary Romania Ireland etc will never get any competition in their own right so let them have their moment then back to the usual in 2024.
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Old 11-10-2017, 09:42 PM
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But only three sides guaranteed not part of group A; strikes me that it reduces the unpredictability of a non group A side getting through and therefore more of the same old sides playing each other in finals each time.

Champions League, anyone?
It's actually more open than before. Teams that had no hope of finishing in the top two of a regular 5-6 team qualifying group have one guaranteed place available to fight for between them.

Macedonia, Latvia, Belarus, Faroe Islands - never going to break the top two but now have every chance of going to a finals. Unless they manage to get promoted to League C
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I think it's a good idea with international football becoming stale. We will now have what should be competitive game against countries on a similar level outside of major tournaments.

The league part is straightforward to understand but Uefa could have done a better job explaining the Euro 2020 places.

We will have to see whether it does improve the international game or is friendlies in all but name.
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I used to go to lots of England games and part of the enjoyment was visiting different countries during qualifying stages. The way I understand it England will pretty much play the same teams all the time.
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Old 12-10-2017, 12:02 AM
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I used to go to lots of England games and part of the enjoyment was visiting different countries during qualifying stages. The way I understand it England will pretty much play the same teams all the time.
The qualifying stages will still exist as before. This tournament runs alongside, instead of friendlies.
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:29 AM
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So what's the merit of a League D qualifying for the European Championships again? Doesn't this just give an easy ride to three teams in the qualifying stages?
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The qualifying stages will still exist as before. This tournament runs alongside, instead of friendlies.
Eh? I thought it was for qualifying for wc?
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A lower ranked League C team might see the chance to tank their league, get relegated, then try to qualify for the Euros via League D instead.
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Old 12-10-2017, 10:59 AM
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A lower ranked League C team might see the chance to tank their league, get relegated, then try to qualify for the Euros via League D instead.
It's possible, but it depends if teams will want to sabotage their world ranking and get increasingly difficult qualifying groups in return for a 1-in-16 shot at a finals place? If this competition fails after one cycle, they're left high and dry and forced to play San Marino and Andorra for the foreseeable future.

Plus, once they'd got relegated in 'Year One' I believe they'd have to wait three years for the League D play-offs to come around. 'Year Two' would be the League C play-offs that they failed to qualify for, and 'Year Three' would be the League D group stage to try and qualify for the play-offs in 'Year Four'.

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Worth trying something to make international football a bit more interesting - England like to play prestige friendlies anyway, so getting drawn into groups against some of Europe's best doesn't really change things there. (I think there's also space in the calendar to fit in regular friendlies too). Fact that it aims towards a final competition is interesting, though whether that even gets taken as seriously as the Confederations Cup we will see. It's impact on Euro 2020 qualifying has the potential to get a bit confusing if I'm reading it correctly. With twenty teams qualifying from the groups in 2019, there's a strong chance that most if not all Group A teams will qualify that way, so the 'Group A' play-off might not feature any Group A teams...
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Scotland get Israel and Albania.
Northern Ireland get Bosnia and Austria.
Wales get Ireland and Denmark.
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