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Old 02-01-2018, 04:04 PM
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Sorry have to comment. Yes on fire. So was grenfell tower and many other buildinggs but none collapse like a house of cards like building 7
The world trade centre buildings had a known structural problem, that the structural stability of the building required that the joints at each corner of each floor needed to remain stable. The thing that would make them unstable would be a fire that would cause warping of the joints leading to a loss of weight bearing capacity. This only had to happen to one floor as this would cause all higher floors to collapse leading to a catastrophic failure as was observed.

To overcome this concern the sprinkler system was over engineered for a building of this size and would have been sufficient from any conceivable internal fire. However they never really considered a plane hitting the buildings.

Grenfell tower did not have this issue with structural stability. Again I point out the complete abandonment of the Trade Towers construction technique starting 17 years ago.
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Old 02-01-2018, 04:09 PM
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The 'Guy on Youtube' in the post previous to yours is the father of one of the victims searching for the truth. Hardly the 'comfort of his bedroom'.

Bit offensive to post this in response, don't you think? Perhaps it was accident and you should be given the benefit of the doubt.
The guy on you tube I was referring to was the global research bloke linked earlier.

And it's exactly because of the grief experienced by the bereaved that conspiracy theorists aren't a joke. You stoke this bollocks which only prolongs the pain, or if they push back against conspiracy theories (as most do) they get abuse from your fellow nutters.

Sandy Hook parents and those who lost loved ones in Vegas have had torrents of abuse accusing them of being actors.

It's ******* sick.
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Old 02-01-2018, 04:13 PM
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Open your eyes sheeple! Learn to THINK for yourselves. All those eye witnesses, experts and investigators are LYING to you.

This was carried out by the Jews while at the same time the Lizard People and the NWO were also carrying out similar conspiracies, and hundreds of people know about it but no one is saying ANYTHING except this guy I found on YouTube who from the comfort of his bedroom has solved it all.

You keep swallowing that "official investigation" stuff, I'm going to listen to the guy who also proved Chemtrails are a government mind control experiment.
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Multiple conspiracies? What, all at the same time, completely independent of and secret from one another?

Wow.
Apart from you, whoever said they would necessarily be completely independent of and secret from one another?
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Old 02-01-2018, 04:20 PM
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The guy on you tube I was referring to was the global research bloke linked earlier.

And it's exactly because of the grief experienced by the bereaved that conspiracy theorists aren't a joke. You stoke this bollocks which only prolongs the pain, or if they push back against conspiracy theories (as most do) they get abuse from your fellow nutters.

Sandy Hook parents and those who lost loved ones in Vegas have had torrents of abuse accusing them of being actors.

It's ******* sick.
You obviously feel quite strongly about this, but why constantly try and bring the conversation back to Sandy Hook and "Chemtrails", let alone "Lizard People" and "Elvis on the Moon"?

It's time to 'fess up. Are you a Mossad agent, or just a raving loon?

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The guy on you tube I was referring to was the global research bloke linked earlier.

And it's exactly because of the grief experienced by the bereaved that conspiracy theorists aren't a joke. You stoke this bollocks which only prolongs the pain, or if they push back against conspiracy theories (as most do) they get abuse from your fellow nutters.

Sandy Hook parents and those who lost loved ones in Vegas have had torrents of abuse accusing them of being actors.

It's ******* sick.
That's completely ridiculous.

No one here has abused victims, or has anything to do with Sandy Hook.

It was merely pointed out to you that some of the people you are deriding are actually the victims, such as Bob McIlvaine.

You need to calm down and get a grip.
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Old 02-01-2018, 04:22 PM
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The world trade centre buildings had a known structural problem, that the structural stability of the building required that the joints at each corner of each floor needed to remain stable. The thing that would make them unstable would be a fire that would cause warping of the joints leading to a loss of weight bearing capacity. This only had to happen to one floor as this would cause all higher floors to collapse leading to a catastrophic failure as was observed.

To overcome this concern the sprinkler system was over engineered for a building of this size and would have been sufficient from any conceivable internal fire. However they never really considered a plane hitting the buildings.

Grenfell tower did not have this issue with structural stability. Again I point out the complete abandonment of the Trade Towers construction technique starting 17 years ago.
But a plane DIDN'T HIT WTC 7 did it , and the overall engineered sprinkler system should have put out the fires but didn't , and yes the building was hit by falling debris and you could possibly expect a partial collapse , it's just the way that building falls that doesn't add up .
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Old 02-01-2018, 04:23 PM
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I think what’s interesting about those clips of the father I posted up re. WTC 7, is he claims he had a petition signed by 1,000 architects and engineers querying the official line of how that building collapsed. Were their names made public? As that’s quite something for all those people putting their professional credibility at stake.
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Old 02-01-2018, 04:29 PM
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Apart from you, whoever said they would necessarily be completely independent of and secret from one another?
Well, by definition they would be independent of one another; otherwise they would be part of a single conspiracy. And logically it follows that they would be secret from one another.
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I think the conspiracy theories about 9/11 are a total crock. And no one here seems to be explain how building could be rigged up with explosives and no one notice. Or what strategic explosive could do something which a huge airplane filled with fuel and resulting huge debris, couldn't. Or why planes going in to towers wouldn't achieve something that was needed for propaganda and an extra much smaller building collapsing was essential. It makes no sense.

A lot of conspiracy stuff is also peddled by anti Semites and the far right. Unfortunately a small part of the left, like bits of the Occupy movement, also go along with it (but I've not seen socialist groups do it).

But leaving all that aside that doesn't mean governments wouldn't carry out "false flag" operations:

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In terms of the above link why weren't those proposing this arrested and jailed?

There was also a lot of false flag operations against the Black Panthers.

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I think what’s interesting about those clips of the father I posted up re. WTC 7, is he claims he had a petition signed by 1,000 architects and engineers querying the official line of how that building collapsed. Were their names made public? As that’s quite something for all those people putting their professional credibility at stake.
Actually, it was 2,300 architects and engineers putting their professional credibility on the line.

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Well, by definition they would be independent of one another; otherwise they would be part of a single conspiracy. And logically it follows that they would be secret from one another.
You mean that the conspiracy theorists are conspiring together?
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Well, by definition they would be independent of one another; otherwise they would be part of a single conspiracy. And logically it follows that they would be secret from one another.
Umm ... I really don't know what to say other than perhaps you should research the Gantt Chart.

Hope this helps.
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What was the purpose of the conspiracy to make this third building collapse? What was the aim?
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What was the purpose of the conspiracy to make this third building collapse? What was the aim?
I asked that earlier on but got no answer. Surely the twin towers was a big enough event to create panic. Why take the risk of something going wrong and 'the truth' ,as the conspiracy theorists see it ,coming out.
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Actually, it was 2,300 architects and engineers putting their professional credibility on the line.

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So a website that people can sign up to. Excellent. I might try after the match.
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The twin towers were the first two skyscrapers to ever collapse in on themselves after being hit by planes and WT7 was the first to collapse in on itself after being hit by 'debris.'

It's just a coincidence that it all happened on the same day and location, you bunch of conspiracy nutters; move on!

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I’m confused. If we are supposed to believe that the US government knowingly allowed to was complicit in the taking down WTC 7, did the US government took advantage of a terrorist act or staged the terrorist act in the first instance?

Either way it’s not exactly remotely plausible. Either they are the fastest movers of all time to get that done in a couple of hours with no one noticing and no one coming forward to say I know how did it, or they are uber mass murderers simply to get rid of some information when all they needed to do was start a fire, or buy a shredder.
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Umm ... I really don't know what to say other than perhaps you should research the Gantt Chart.

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Gantt charts make it easy to visualize project management timelines by transforming task names, start dates, durations, and end dates into cascading horizontal bar charts."


I'd like to see a Gantt Chart for the 9/11 conspiracy.
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