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That cheap jibe is with the benefit of hindsight. We could all see what he was trying to do with the FdeB appointment. The sign of a great manager is someone who spots when they have made a mistake and reacts appropriately - he gets full marks in this regard.
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10. FA Cup Final
11. Longest stretch in the top division ever
12. Cultivated the Club's positive "South London & Proud" image
13. (Despite the current hiccup) Supported the HF's contribution to the match atmosphere and fan displays.
14. Aqueducts
Aqueducts???
But Parish is fantastic.
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10. FA Cup Final

11. Longest stretch in the top division ever

12. Cultivated the Club's positive "South London & Proud" image

13. (Despite the current hiccup) Supported the HF's contribution to the match atmosphere and fan displays.

14. Aqueducts

15. Brought peace
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Aqueducts???
But Parish is fantastic.
Not sure about the sanitation in the AW bogs mind.
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Frank de boer etc was a huge mistake however you might want to dress it up - last January window was poor.

We were very fortunate that Roy hodgson turned it all around - the first game v Huddersfield was an absolute joke - however kudos to him for getting rid so quickly. That was also after hanging on to pardew for so long.
I wasnít convinced that spending so much of out turnover on sakho was a great decision but thatís my opinion.

In summary, Lots of errors made previously but none made in this window or start to the season and thatís great.

Correction... in summary... has made the odd well intentioned mistake. Many of which have been quickly corrected.

Had made numerous successful decision which has lead us to our longest run in the top flight in history.
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People can say whatever they want but facts speak for themselves.

1. Best chairman we have had during my 40 year lifetime.
2. Saved the club
3. Promoted
4. Stayed in the league.
5. Best football on some stages that I have ever seen at palace.
6. The handling of Zahaís rise is impeccable in keeping him happy with contracts.
7. Wise decision on most managers
8. Records broken on transfer fees that I only dreamed.
9. Financial stability


Outstanding

Two projects left
1. Stadium
2. Cat 1 for the academy.
Allow me to offer a different perspective to the fan boy perspective.

Remember Parish was one of 4 and now one of 3. No success is his alone and no disaster is his alone but as you want to heap praise on him...

2. Saved the club but also helped put us in administration.

4. Stayed in the league? I guess you mean division because we were never in danger of going out of the league.

5. He isn't responsible for the football we play.

7. Wise decision on most managers? Most would imply over 50% of the managers. Wrong again!

8. Broken transfer records, yes but over all his transfers have been scattergun at best and quote poor apart from the odd highlight.

9. Stability? It would seem so until you look at the fact the owners had to lend the club money to buy out way out of trouble under Allardyce. But certainly more stable than before.

The academy is his biggest failing since they took over in 2010 when you see what we produced before.
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Allow me to offer a different perspective to the fan boy perspective.

Remember Parish was one of 4 and now one of 3. No success is his alone and no disaster is his alone but as you want to heap praise on him...

2. Saved the club but also helped put us in administration.

4. Stayed in the league? I guess you mean division because we were never in danger of going out of the league.

5. He isn't responsible for the football we play.

7. Wise decision on most managers? Most would imply over 50% of the managers. Wrong again!

8. Broken transfer records, yes but over all his transfers have been scattergun at best and quote poor apart from the odd highlight.

9. Stability? It would seem so until you look at the fact the owners had to lend the club money to buy out way out of trouble under Allardyce. But certainly more stable than before.

The academy is his biggest failing since they took over in 2010 when you see what we produced before.
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Anyway - to answer this in detail:

Remember Parish was one of 4 and now one of 3. No success is his alone and no disaster is his alone but as you want to heap praise on him...

Parish was and is the front man - and only he and Browett had any major day to day involvement with the club, the other two were very much in the background - and now SP runs the club with the US pair equally mainly in the background.

2. Saved the club but also helped put us in administration.

So says Simon Jordan - not sure anyone else really thinks this? He may have been able to bail Jordan but the club was going down hill fast and hocked to every sort of loan agent going.

4. Stayed in the league? I guess you mean division because we were never in danger of going out of the league.

Err- we were if we went bankrupt - which was very very close. We have also now stayed in the PL when many other larger more established and richer clubs have gone down.

5. He isn't responsible for the football we play.

Not personally, but he is responsible for the manager and works with him to get the players needed to do that, and after a few years we are now playing "proper football" rather than Pulis park the bus or Sam Lump it forward. FdB was part of the process as is RH.

7. Wise decision on most managers? Most would imply over 50% of the managers. Wrong again!

Freedman/Hart - helped stablise the club (also told to be more expansive in the play)
Holloway - saved a drifting season and got us promoted
Pulis - kept us up
Warnock - stop gap with little other choice after Pulis shafted us
Pardew - started really well, got to an FA Cup Final - fizzled out
Alladyce - kept us up
FdB - Bad decision based on flawed information from the manager
Hodgson - kept us up comfortably and now, by most pundits, has us a potential top ten team

8. Broken transfer records, yes but over all his transfers have been scattergun at best and quote poor apart from the odd highlight.

So the team we put out last night (except AWB - but including Zaha as he was bought back) is quite poor? Interesting view as they were all bought by SP - as were many others now moved on. Yes there have been duffs, but every club has them - the odd highlight? A very strange view

9. Stability? It would seem so until you look at the fact the owners had to lend the club money to buy out way out of trouble under Allardyce. But certainly more stable than before.

All mid range clubs have owners dipping into their pocket from time to time, that is practical club management not instability.

The academy is his biggest failing since they took over in 2010 when you see what we produced before.

Its well documented that the Academy suffered from not getting Cat 1 - an almost impossible thing to do given the financial straights and location limitations at the time the scheme was introduced. If you haven't noticed - we are now finalising a very large investment in the Academy to get Cat 1 but given you live in Sweden, you may not appreciate the difficulty of finding the land for an Academy in South London and then getting planning permission?


So - not being a "fan boy" - just providing "alternate facts" that may be closer to reality.
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