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Old 13-08-2017, 05:40 AM
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He was hung out to dry today @ rwb.

Been a great servant to the club and we'd do well to remember that, whatever happens.
Yep it had shades of Wayne Carlisle at Andield all those years ago.
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Old 13-08-2017, 07:27 AM
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Yep it had shades of Wayne Carlisle at Andield all those years ago.
Ha ha. Wayne Carlisle was a winger playing at cb, Joel ward a rb asked to play wing back, there's not a lot in it. The guy is just not good enough
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Old 13-08-2017, 10:05 AM
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Joel didn't really play RWB in any different way to how he plays RB and so I don't get much of the criticism about him being played out of position. The only time he was in a different position was on the team sheet! The problems he seemed to have centred on being outpaced and outwitted several times. Normally he gets his tackle in and puts ball and man out but he was getting done far too often. Mooy and Ince mainly. He was unlucky with he final touch that scored their first but shouldn't have conceded the corner in the first place and didn't get back to cover the goal when the ball was flicked on. Dann didn't help either letting his man go without block.

Edit - he made one stunning recovery tackle
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Old 13-08-2017, 10:14 AM
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Ha ha. Wayne Carlisle was a winger playing at cb, Joel ward a rb asked to play wing back, there's not a lot in it. The guy is just not good enough
Wayne Carlise played full back that night. Poor guy soon dropped down the leagues after Coppell had such high hopes for him and then Smith did that to him
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Joel didn't really play RWB in any different way to how he plays RB and so I don't get much of the criticism about him being played out of position. The only time he was in a different position was on the team sheet! The problems he seemed to have centred on being outpaced and outwitted several times. Normally he gets his tackle in and puts ball and man out but he was getting done far too often. Mooy and Ince mainly. He was unlucky with he final touch that scored their first but shouldn't have conceded the corner in the first place and didn't get back to cover the goal when the ball was flicked on. Dann didn't help either letting his man go without block.

Edit - he made one stunning recovery tackle
Don't agree , Ward was often further up the field and just isn't suited to wing back roll . If we revert to 4 at back think he is ok with another player in front of him .
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Old 13-08-2017, 02:52 PM
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Don't agree , Ward was often further up the field and just isn't suited to wing back roll . If we revert to 4 at back think he is ok with another player in front of him .
He really wasn't any further up the pitch than he was last year. And to add to that, all of his poor play was when he was deep and simply not winning the ball or containing his man.
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He really wasn't any further up the pitch than he was last year. And to add to that, all of his poor play was when he was deep and simply not winning the ball or containing his man.
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Old 13-08-2017, 06:59 PM
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Old 13-08-2017, 07:06 PM
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Old 13-08-2017, 07:25 PM
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He tried really hard yesterday but was outpaced again and again.

Asking him to play wing back is mental.
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Old 13-08-2017, 07:39 PM
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He's too slow for RB let alone RWB. Gets rinsed time and time again.
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Appreciate all he's done for the club but if someone offers a good fee maybe best to sell & upgrade.
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He really wasn't any further up the pitch than he was last year. And to add to that, all of his poor play was when he was deep and simply not winning the ball or containing his man.
In attack he was forced further forward than he was usually last season and struggled to get back when play broke down. In fairness, Huddersfield played our system well by breaking into the wide channels, but the defensive setup was shambolic. Ward was often on the wrong side of his man or struggling to get back because of the system. He is still a decent but limited right back -but his limitations are far less often exposed in a back 4.
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Wayne Carlisle played RB at Anfield as we were so short of defenders and he had a good game there up at the Stadium of Light in the FA Cup earlier that month.

Pretty sure our back 4 that night was:

Carlisle - Smith - Harrison - Frampton
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I guess rule No.1 if you're going to play wingback is pace. Whoever thought Ward could play that is more or less out of his mind.
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