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Old 10-08-2017, 11:53 AM
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More than adequate enough for us at RB. Solid committed professional. Start moving on steady players and you run a serious risk when the s*** hits the fan
But he will know that in the new system he will probably be on the bench (at best) most of the time. I doubt he would want that, so may well want a move. And if we can raise funds by selling a squad player who wants to move on, it would be sensible from our perspective too.
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Totally different scenario. We needed Jedi and Pardew's inability or blindness to replace him and Soaure most likely cost him his job in a formation that heavily relied on a capable defensive midfielder.

FdB on the other hand is changing our formation and it's entirely possible that Ward doesn't fit those plans, sadly or even Ward doesn't fancy playing in that formation, afterall it is rumoured that he rejected a deal.
Exactly this.

Had Pardew signed Luka and even one of Schlupp or Van Aanholt he'd probably still be in charge.
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I'd keep him if possible. I can't see us doing enough business in the rest of window to both cover the gaps in the squad AND replace players like Ward. I don't imagine he'll get much playing time if first choice players stay fit, but without the likes of Ward, we'd be an injury crisis away from playing the U23s.
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:08 PM
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When we inevitably resort back to 442 after Christmas we are going to need him
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:09 PM
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Had Pardew signed Luka and even one of Schlupp or Van Aanholt he'd probably still be in charge.
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Can understand if he wants to move on. Been a great professional. Not many p[l;ayers left now from the championshiup days. Personally I think the spell where he played in midfield wasnt good for him. Not as good a defender after that.
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Arguably he doesn't fit in a 4-4-2 formation at a Prem club...
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When we inevitably resort back to 442 after Christmas we are going to need him
Fosu-Mensah would probably start there anyway and Kelly or Tomkins add cover.
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:21 PM
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Fosu-Mensah would probably start there anyway and Kelly or Tomkins add cover.
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:23 PM
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Been a good servant, but ultimately won't be missed, in a position he probably should have lost a year or two back anyway.
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:32 PM
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My (little facetious) point was these players have the power, and fans blame whoever, depending on the direction of the wind. Jedinak was happy to go as he wasn't going to feature, much like Murray was. He sort Villa move the window before. Both were older players who needed to be playing and careers winding down. Jedinak was the Australian Captain - and would inevitably lose that on the bench or barely in the matchday squad. Despite whether we needed him in an emergency or not. Jedinak had a lot to offer (he and most people felt) and there was no room for him in our team, what with Cabaye a more capable passer given our tactics and that was that. What's more disgraceful, entrapping players who don't want to be bit part players or letting them go to flourish at the end of their careers elsewhere?

My point is also the fact that Ward is unlikely to play much this season, how would that go down after we've lost 5 on the trot and 3 of them at home. And if he doesn't want to sign a new contract then peoples unhappiness would be directed at FDB for 'treating him so badly'.

Ward probably sees his time here done, and I am sure a younger Murray, and Jedinak would have had contract extensions offered for sure - whether they would have accepted is another thing.

One thing is for sure ward, gayle, jedi, Delaney, et al, should ALWAYS be welcome back here. But I guess that goes without saying.
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:36 PM
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He's only 27.
A real shame if he can't be persuaded to sign a new contract.
Who better do we have as a RB in a 442? - bear in mind we need 2 proper players per position.
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He's only 27.
A real shame if he can't be persuaded to sign a new contract.
Who better do we have as a RB in a 442? - bear in mind we need 2 proper players per position.

We don't play 4-4-2 and he's unlikely to want to sit on the beach for us.
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You mean we haven't played 442 so far in the few games since frank arrived. We need a squad that can play more than one formation
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We don't for now. Who is to say we won't revert to a back 4 if the shit starts hitting the fan?
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We don't for now. Who is to say we won't revert to a back 4 if the shit starts hitting the fan?

We can't keep Joel and he won't want to stay on that basis. Tbh he's not the best RB even in a 4-4-2 and Mensah is likely an upgrade.
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Shame some of our fans can't see the work he does. We're Crystal Palace FFS. How about some of our fans appreciate the people who got us to where we are.
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