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Old 15-12-2018, 09:53 AM
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Old 15-12-2018, 10:08 AM
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My mother died from mesothelioma, we had attributed this to factory work when younger, perhaps there was another factor.
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Old 15-12-2018, 10:45 AM
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It’s a long- running story.

My outtake at present is simply to wonder whether matters of such scientific complications are suitable for jury trials, as is evidenced by the completely different outcomes in the various suits.
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My outtake at present is simply to wonder whether matters of such scientific complications are suitable for jury trials, as is evidenced by the completely different outcomes in the various suits.
Didn't know that. First I heard of it was last night on the world service during a bout of insomnia.
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Old 15-12-2018, 11:08 AM
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In the construction industry you're taught about the health implications of asbestos and inhalation of other fine dust particles which can lead to silicosis and other health complications.

Spraying rock dust all over your baby does not seem like a good idea to me.
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Old 15-12-2018, 11:34 AM
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There was big trouble in the Chatham dockyards with asbestos stuff too. In car garages in the past as well
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I might be wrong, but they I think it was only in a few tests they showed a trace of asbestos. I'd imagine there is more in the air we breathe.

In fact, I'm currently on a job where a trace of asbestos has been found. It's 10% of what is in the ambient air, yet everyone is now walking around dressed like Neil Armstrong. Apart from the patients in the hospital we are working in
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I suspect one day we will have knowledge from looking back at what everyday household items could have been the reason for all kinds of diseases and health complications.

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I suspect one day we will have knowledge from looking back at what everyday household items could have been the reason for all kinds of diseases and health complications.

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Late seventies and early eighties I worked fitting the guttering ,fascia and soffits to large buildings . We used large sheets of white asbestos which was cut to size by electric saw and sent shit flying everywhere. All we had was a very basic mouth mask which was really just to help us breathe. Nearly 40 years and no sign of problems but still a worry.
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I might be wrong, but they I think it was only in a few tests they showed a trace of asbestos. I'd imagine there is more in the air we breathe.

In fact, I'm currently on a job where a trace of asbestos has been found. It's 10% of what is in the ambient air, yet everyone is now walking around dressed like Neil Armstrong. Apart from the patients in the hospital we are working in
Maybe, but not informing regulatory bodies of positive tests from the 70s onwards suggest a pattern of being more interested in profit than safety and willingly failing to comply with laws. Its not their decision to take, but the FDA and regulatory - and they seem to have taken every step possible to suppress the reports and findings of scientific bodies.

They've also lost a number of cases, as well as winning some.
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Old 15-12-2018, 06:50 PM
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Maybe, but not informing regulatory bodies of positive tests from the 70s onwards suggest a pattern of being more interested in profit than safety and willingly failing to comply with laws. Its not their decision to take, but the FDA and regulatory - and they seem to have taken every step possible to suppress the reports and findings of scientific bodies.

They've also lost a number of cases, as well as winning some.
I'd be more worried about the lead tbh.
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Original roof of the Main Stand was asbestos, was on there until the mid 1990s
Mind you it rained for the whole of the 1970s so most of us still alive should be alright
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I suspect one day we will have knowledge from looking back at what everyday household items could have been the reason for all kinds of diseases and health complications.

Scary stuff.
I just watched Stink on Netflix it is amazing how little is known or testing done on Chemicals they showed a chart of the increase chemical use and overlaid it with various illnesses and the increase was almost matched.

There is another film on YouTube called the human Experiment along similar lines. Johnson baby shampoo featured on this and the US and Canada versions were different to UK due to EU labeling laws demanding Formaldehyde be declared. So they have form for putting profit first.

The other point made was accumulation from all the different we use both in the house and personal care products.

Both worth a watch although a bit scaremongering.

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