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View Poll Results: Should Scotland be given its independence ?
Yes - Good luck as your own country 350 40.89%
No - Look you are part of the UK and so you should be 305 35.63%
Could not give a highland moo 201 23.48%
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Old 26-01-2019, 10:05 AM
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Apparently the SNP website has been changed to erase Alex Salmond’s role in bringing the party to prominence. All mentions of Salmond have been removed. Instead, strangely, the page details how the 2014 independence campaign was ‘spearheaded by its then depute leader Nicola Sturgeon.’

By all accounts the SNP are in the process of ripping themselves apart much like the Tories and Labour. Is there something in the water?
If they have started to erase Salmond's importance to recent SNP history before he is found guilty then that either says they believe he is guilty and are getting in early or they are making a serious error in judgement if he is found innocent.

I think Sturgeon on a personal level, let alone as the leader of SNP, will find this particularly difficult to get her head around as the two were very close on a personal level and he was her mentor. If he is found guilty it will be interesting to see if she has the appetite to continue as the leader. The void left at the top you would have to guess will result in a power struggle and puts at risk the unity the party has been able to exhibit in the last 10 years or so.
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Old 26-01-2019, 10:14 AM
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No idea. The Scottish Parliament thing that Sturgeon ****ed up was centred around complaints from two women.
Point of order Sturgeon had nothing to do with the **** up that saw Salmond win the recent court case. It was a civil servant, Leslie Evans, the permanent secretary who ****ed up.

Sturgeon has been accused and criticised for discussing the harassment claims with Salmond directly. She has reported herself to the government watchdog to investigate the claims further.

There is a feeling that Sturgeons friendship with Salmond is in tatters over all of this. Perhaps another reason to believe that within the SNP at least they believe Salmond is guilty of some if not all the charges.
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Apparently the SNP website has been changed to erase Alex Salmond’s role in bringing the party to prominence. All mentions of Salmond have been removed. Instead, strangely, the page details how the 2014 independence campaign was ‘spearheaded by its then depute leader Nicola Sturgeon.’

By all accounts the SNP are in the process of ripping themselves apart much like the Tories and Labour. Is there something in the water?
That excision of Salmond from their website might be down to him leaving the party rather than these sexual accusations.
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That excision of Salmond from their website might be down to him leaving the party rather than these sexual accusations.
However his leaving the SNP does not change his impact and influence on the parties success, so to rewrite history must surely be down to the negative impact the SNP see by having association with him, even if it is now only on an historic basis.
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Ian Blackfoot, the SNP leader in Westminster is going full on re the issue of Scottish Independence in the EU withdrawal agreement debate going on in parliament now.
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