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Old 16-08-2018, 11:08 PM
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I was talking about standing up about killing Jews unless you...Nahhh
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Old 16-08-2018, 11:08 PM
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Yes they. Israel. The elected government representing the country when they steal other peoples land, keep folk in ghettos etc...all based on race.
Right,so if a government is dodgy,even if elected by a minority (like our own),the entire populace are tarred in your eyes.

Very progressive (not).

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She wasn't saying what you suggest.If she had been it would be crass.Those affected directly or any family memory of the holocaust will naturally have a 'zero tolerance' highly on guard approach to anything that smacks of tolerance towards people exhibiting anti-semitic tendencies.I doubt you'd be any different if it was you.
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The veteran Labour MP, who is Jewish and lost relatives in the Holocaust, said being investigated by the party after a row with Mr Corbyn had made her feel like "a Jew in Germany in the 30s".
You don’t think that’s crass? And indeed an insult to Jews in Germany in the 1930s?
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Old 16-08-2018, 11:09 PM
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I think plenty of anti semites have been suspended.
I imagine a lot of Tories think that plenty of the racists have been suspended as well, and I have about as much faith in the sophistication of their definition of racism as I have in yours of antisemitism.
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Old 16-08-2018, 11:10 PM
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I think plenty of anti semites have been suspended.
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Old 16-08-2018, 11:11 PM
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You don’t think that’s crass? And indeed an insult to Jews in Germany in the 1930s?
I suspect she may have a more direct connection to what that means than you or I.

So I would be wary of calling her out on it.
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I suspect she may have a more direct connection to what that means than you or I.

So I would be wary of calling her out on it.
Corbyn has to go if his parties internal policing can be compared in such a way.
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Old 16-08-2018, 11:14 PM
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And thank feck fot that where most stand up now against it where once they did not.
FFS. You must be on a wind up.
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You don’t think that’s crass? And indeed an insult to Jews in Germany in the 1930s?
In the 1930's in Germany (which was before the holocaust) Jews started to feel threatened and singled out collectively and constantly having to justify themselves,a growing anti-semitism legitimised and encouraged by politicians.One way was the way in which anti semitism and anti semitic tropes began to become tolerated in 'polite' society or amongst one's own non Jewish circle.
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I was talking about standing up about killing Jews unless you...Nahhh
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Old 16-08-2018, 11:16 PM
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You’re being pathetic.
He has to be trolling. Or stoned.
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Right,so if a government is dodgy,even if elected by a minority (like our own),the entire populace are tarred in your eyes.

Very progressive (not).

ps. question for revision:how can prejudice (based on religion or ethnicity) be said to be based on race when those they are said to be prejudiced against are of the same race.Answer.Easy,just make knee jerk OTT assertions.
This is just as bad as those that claim you can’t be anti Semitic against Jews as Arabs are also semites. You’re being utterly semantic and racism is more nuanced than what you are saying.
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You don’t think that’s crass? And indeed an insult to Jews in Germany in the 1930s?
If she believes she is being persecuted because she is Jewish then it is understandable why she is drawing parallels. She is referring to the '30s and not what went on to happen in the war. But the seeds of anti-semitism sowed in the '30s by Hitler became the monster it did. If I was Jewish I would worry that history could be repeating itself.
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I suspect she may have a more direct connection to what that means than you or I.

So I would be wary of calling her out on it.
I’m wary but not to the point where I won’t say what she said is crass. I genuinely think it’s an insult to Jewish people in 1930s Germany.
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In the 1930's in Germany (which was before the holocaust) Jews started to feel threatened and singled out collectively and constantly having to justify themselves,a growing anti-semitism legitimised and encouraged by politicians.One way was the way in which anti semitism and anti semitic tropes began to become tolerated in 'polite' society or amongst one's own non Jewish circle.
I am a bit wary about bringing my wife next time come back home if it’s getting this bad.
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This is just as bad as those that claim you can’t be anti Semitic against Jews as Arabs are also semites. You’re being utterly semantic and racism is more nuanced than what you are saying.
No,its simply not racism,though it is discriminatory and well dodgy
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In the 1930's in Germany (which was before the holocaust) Jews started to feel threatened and singled out collectively and constantly having to justify themselves,a growing anti-semitism legitimised and encouraged by politicians.One way was the way in which anti semitism and anti semitic tropes began to become tolerated in 'polite' society or amongst one's own non Jewish circle.
In 1930s Germany concentration camps were already set up, shops were smashed up, people were being beaten and killed on the street. A Nazi party was in power.

Comparing that to a Labour Party investigation. If you think that’s ok we are not gonna agree.
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I am a bit wary about bringing my wife next time come back home if it’s getting this bad.
Now,that CR is something that is a crass comment in the circumstances

On a more serious note,I suspect that 10 years ago any Labour leader from any faction who'd indicated support for a grossly anti-semitic mural not being removed would have been booted out of the leadership and any senior position by all factions within the party in short order ('I didnt realise what the mural was' excuse and apology or not).Or if the mural had depicted africans negatively rather than Jews the same would have happened this time.

That shows you how much things have shifted within the anti-discrimination party in recent years..in a not entirely dissimilar to the way what was previously unacceptable re 'immigrants' has become more mainstream on the parliamentary right.

Not a positive overall trend...

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He means the Rothschilds, George Soros and Vanessa Feltz.

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